Re: Testing feeds

2009-06-15 Thread 2del
Hi all,
After some more research:
a) issues:
 1)cannot scroll in the settings normally.
Meaning that even if you scroll, it will also click in the end. When
scrolling should not click.
Also the scroll bar is not working properly (does not appear when needed and
it is in my oppinion reversed).
  2) after I close paroli, I cannot access the settings menu any longer.
It is only on my installation?
  3) the back button in the settings should be bigger as it is hard to
touch with the finger.
b) 1 suggestion: Can we have more things in the settings? It would be great
to be able to turn on/off the GPS also.
c) when unregistering from the GSM network or closing the paroli, does it
turn off the gsm also (to save battery)?
   what about putting Wifi in inactive. does it turn it off ? (to save
battery again).


On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:

 On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Nicola Mfbnicola@gmail.com wrote:
  On 2007.2, hackable:1 and may be no other distros, the aux button if
  long pressed shows a menu that let you rotate the display, switch
  fullscreen mode of current active window while a short power button
  press lets you close it.
  This simple tasks are VERY useful on a so limited hardware buttons
  device and I do not understand well why this was abandoned in ASU,
  SHR, and now in 2009.x.

 I must agree that it'd be a good idea: move the settings to main menu
 and use AUX to launch a menu to rotate screen, kill apps, enable
 fullscreen, change profile etc.

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Re: Testing feeds

2009-06-15 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:14 PM, 2del2...@maryhit.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 After some more research:
 a) issues:
  1)cannot scroll in the settings normally.
 Meaning that even if you scroll, it will also click in the end. When
 scrolling should not click.
 Also the scroll bar is not working properly (does not appear when needed and
 it is in my oppinion reversed).

I think the scrolling is not yet 'fixed' in settings, like it's in
people. Keep waiting and things are fixed :)

   2) after I close paroli, I cannot access the settings menu any longer.
 It is only on my installation?

No, it's not only your installation: settings is part of paroli. No
paroli - no settings.

   3) the back button in the settings should be bigger as it is hard to
 touch with the finger.

I think this will be also fixed any time..

 b) 1 suggestion: Can we have more things in the settings? It would be great
 to be able to turn on/off the GPS also.

Why this? GPS is turned automatically of by FSO when GPS is requested
by a application. It's easier than you think :)

 c) when unregistering from the GSM network or closing the paroli, does it
 turn off the gsm also (to save battery)?
    what about putting Wifi in inactive. does it turn it off ? (to save
 battery again).

i think the wifi is turned off, don't know about GSM..


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Re: Testing feeds

2009-06-15 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 20:31, Risto H. Kurppari...@kurppa.fi wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:14 PM, 2del2...@maryhit.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 After some more research:
 a) issues:
  1)cannot scroll in the settings normally.
 Meaning that even if you scroll, it will also click in the end. When
 scrolling should not click.
 Also the scroll bar is not working properly (does not appear when needed and
 it is in my oppinion reversed).

 I think the scrolling is not yet 'fixed' in settings, like it's in
 people. Keep waiting and things are fixed :)

   2) after I close paroli, I cannot access the settings menu any longer.
 It is only on my installation?

 No, it's not only your installation: settings is part of paroli. No
 paroli - no settings.

   3) the back button in the settings should be bigger as it is hard to
 touch with the finger.

 I think this will be also fixed any time..

 b) 1 suggestion: Can we have more things in the settings? It would be great
 to be able to turn on/off the GPS also.

 Why this? GPS is turned automatically of by FSO when GPS is requested
 by a application. It's easier than you think :)

 c) when unregistering from the GSM network or closing the paroli, does it
 turn off the gsm also (to save battery)?
    what about putting Wifi in inactive. does it turn it off ? (to save
 battery again).

 i think the wifi is turned off, don't know about GSM..

GSM is FSO resourse. When it's released, GSM is turned off. So - yes :P

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Re: Testing feeds

2009-06-14 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:57 AM, 2del2...@maryhit.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I've installed OM2009 from the
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/*** feed and I can say
 that it's great.

Nice to hear :)

 I had only few less important issues till now:
 a) cannot simply disable the suspend. I tried to put suspend time -1 in the
 settings window, but did not work; I tried to write directly in
 /etc/frameworkd.conf suspend=0 , still did not work. Finally I edited
 /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml and put instead of suspend ssuspend
 and the rule never gets true.

Yes, there's something wrong in the image now. The only way to disable
suspend is to connect it to recharger/computer over USB.. I hope
this'll be fixed during the next 24 hours..

 c) in both midori and firefox, if you set it to full screen and diable the
 menu bar, there is no way to close the application. Reboot is the only
 option.

Or ssh in and kill the app. The same goes for some PDF viewers: full
screen is a no-go..
Please let the app devels know this..

 d) did not find how to put the landscape view (especially for browsing)

Not supported yet, but xrand should do it (command line)

 e) did not find any web page on the web with step by step mp3 support (I
 know it is not supposed to be available in the officail feeds)

Right, not supported.


 To cut long story short: intall the unstable and have fun.

Correct!



r


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Re: Testing feeds

2009-06-14 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 9:57 AM, 2del2...@maryhit.com wrote:
[...]
 c) in both midori and firefox, if you set it to full screen and diable the
 menu bar, there is no way to close the application. Reboot is the only
 option.

I'll bore again a bit, sorry for topic deviation, please follow up in
the related thread on community list better handling of aux and power
buttons.
On 2007.2, hackable:1 and may be no other distros, the aux button if
long pressed shows a menu that let you rotate the display, switch
fullscreen mode of current active window while a short power button
press lets you close it.
This simple tasks are VERY useful on a so limited hardware buttons
device and I do not understand well why this was abandoned in ASU,
SHR, and now in 2009.x.
In these days I'm trying to rewrite the neod daemon to use it on FSO/E
based distro, but just discovered (or at least it seems to be) that
E17 lacks support for _NET_CLOSE_WINDOW and other similar WM messages,
so only Illume topbar may close an application (see Illume and
wmctrl on devel list). I guess that's one of the reason for loosing
that.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but it seems that applications (paroli
itself for example) uses FSO or direct access to /dev/input/event to
gain keystrokes monopolizing them, this should be avoided and
applications should receive them only by X when have focus!
Really I'm not able to understand of those practices in all the OM
world and think we should discuss to reorganize that.

My 2 cents.

 Nicola

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Re: Testing feeds

2009-06-14 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Nicola Mfbnicola@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2007.2, hackable:1 and may be no other distros, the aux button if
 long pressed shows a menu that let you rotate the display, switch
 fullscreen mode of current active window while a short power button
 press lets you close it.
 This simple tasks are VERY useful on a so limited hardware buttons
 device and I do not understand well why this was abandoned in ASU,
 SHR, and now in 2009.x.

I must agree that it'd be a good idea: move the settings to main menu
and use AUX to launch a menu to rotate screen, kill apps, enable
fullscreen, change profile etc.

r

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Re: Testing feeds

2009-06-13 Thread 2del
Hi,
I've installed OM2009 from the
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/*** feed and I can say
that it's great.

I had only few less important issues till now:
a) cannot simply disable the suspend. I tried to put suspend time -1 in the
settings window, but did not work; I tried to write directly in
/etc/frameworkd.conf suspend=0 , still did not work. Finally I edited
/etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml and put instead of suspend ssuspend
and the rule never gets true.
b) cannot make midori skip showing the warning that you are a superuser
c) in both midori and firefox, if you set it to full screen and diable the
menu bar, there is no way to close the application. Reboot is the only
option.
d) did not find how to put the landscape view (especially for browsing)
e) did not find any web page on the web with step by step mp3 support (I
know it is not supposed to be available in the officail feeds)

To cut long story short: intall the unstable and have fun.


On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:40 PM, David Fokkema dfokk...@ileos.nl wrote:

 On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 13:14 -0400, Warren Baird wrote:
  I saw in another thread that the OM2009 unstable tree was accidentally
  built in the testing dir - so they removed it rather than having
  people screw up their builds.
 
  I think testing 5 is supposed to be here in the next day or two...

 I'm looking forward to it!

 David


 
  Warren
 
 
  On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:36 AM, tammaro pamdirac palombo
  pamm...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm not sure but look at this page
 
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/experimental/README.html
 
 
 
  On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:13 AM, David Fokkema
  dfokk...@ileos.nl wrote:
  Hi list,
 
  This morning, I tried an opkg update using Om2009,
  which uses the
  testing feeds. However, upon checking in my desktop
  browser (to rule out
  networking problems) I discovered that
  http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/ is
  completely empty.
 
  Any thoughts?
 
  Thanks,
 
  David
 
 
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Re: Testing feeds

2009-06-12 Thread Warren Baird
I saw in another thread that the OM2009 unstable tree was accidentally built
in the testing dir - so they removed it rather than having people screw up
their builds.

I think testing 5 is supposed to be here in the next day or two...

Warren


On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:36 AM, tammaro pamdirac palombo 
pamm...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm not sure but look at this page
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/experimental/README.html


 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:13 AM, David Fokkema dfokk...@ileos.nl wrote:

 Hi list,

 This morning, I tried an opkg update using Om2009, which uses the
 testing feeds. However, upon checking in my desktop browser (to rule out
 networking problems) I discovered that
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/ is completely empty.

 Any thoughts?

 Thanks,

 David


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Re: Testing feeds

2009-06-12 Thread David Fokkema
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 13:14 -0400, Warren Baird wrote:
 I saw in another thread that the OM2009 unstable tree was accidentally
 built in the testing dir - so they removed it rather than having
 people screw up their builds.
 
 I think testing 5 is supposed to be here in the next day or two...

I'm looking forward to it!

David


 
 Warren
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:36 AM, tammaro pamdirac palombo
 pamm...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm not sure but look at this page
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/experimental/README.html
 
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:13 AM, David Fokkema
 dfokk...@ileos.nl wrote:
 Hi list,
 
 This morning, I tried an opkg update using Om2009,
 which uses the
 testing feeds. However, upon checking in my desktop
 browser (to rule out
 networking problems) I discovered that
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/ is
 completely empty.
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Thanks,
 
 David
 
 
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Testing feeds

2009-06-11 Thread David Fokkema
Hi list,

This morning, I tried an opkg update using Om2009, which uses the
testing feeds. However, upon checking in my desktop browser (to rule out
networking problems) I discovered that
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/ is completely empty.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

David


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Re: Testing feeds

2009-06-11 Thread tammaro pamdirac palombo
I'm not sure but look at this page
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/experimental/README.html

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:13 AM, David Fokkema dfokk...@ileos.nl wrote:

 Hi list,

 This morning, I tried an opkg update using Om2009, which uses the
 testing feeds. However, upon checking in my desktop browser (to rule out
 networking problems) I discovered that
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/ is completely empty.

 Any thoughts?

 Thanks,

 David


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