Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
Hi Jeff. В Вск, 10/05/2009 в 15:00 +0200, Jeffrey Ratcliffe пишет: 2009/5/3 Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org: # scp location-of-image /dev/mmcblk0 This seemed to work. Booting from the uSD then took the requisite ~6min. I didn't get the green d_o_n_e, however, and it took me to a login prompt. How can I verify the version of the firmware? I updated it recently too and I haven't seen d_o_n_e as well. So I simply booted again to uSD and procedure get started but this time I got following: (fluid, version 3) ok Checksumming (269 * 8kB = 2152kB): ok Flash Detect: (0xEC, 0x22A0) Samsung K5A3240CT ok Program: (0 sectors, 0*8k=0k) () ok Which means that firmware in your chip is identical to the one on uSD e. g. update was successfull. See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing for more details. best regards, Max. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
On May 15, 2009 4:24am, Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote: I really wonder how you may get different results on this procedure than the ones supposed, when using NOR uBoot and the unmodified uSD-image according to the README and wiki-instructions. I suspect I let it boot from Qi. Could you please check your NOR-uBoot version (you find it first line of uBoot menu). Could you please also tell us if you by any chance changed your uBoot env. U-Boot 1.3.2-moko12 (May 9 2008 - 10:28:48). I haven't changed the uBoot env intentionally. If you could attach a photo of FR screen after flashing (yes you may start the flash procedure once again), this would be highly appreciated. I'll try and get to this over the weekend. Regards Jeff ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
2009/5/3 Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org: # scp location-of-image /dev/mmcblk0 This seemed to work. Booting from the uSD then took the requisite ~6min. I didn't get the green d_o_n_e, however, and it took me to a login prompt. How can I verify the version of the firmware? Regards Jeff ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 15:00 +0200, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote: How can I verify the version of the firmware? Regards Jeff In QtE it's under the modem tab of the hardware settings. Or you can use mickeyterm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenmokoFramework/mickeyterm I got the login prompt with a hint of green so I was worried as well, but it turned out fine. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 15:00 +0200, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote: How can I verify the version of the firmware? You can also use SHR Settings - Phone - Modem information. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
2009/5/10 Ali alish...@interchange.ubc.ca: In QtE it's under the modem tab of the hardware settings. Or you can use mickeyterm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenmokoFramework/mickeyterm I got the login prompt with a hint of green so I was worried as well, but it turned out fine. Excellent. Thank you for the pointer. It reports GSM: gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-Moko11 So that seems OK. Exiting, I get: Exception in thread Thread-1 (most likely raised during interpreter shutdown): Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/python2.6/threading.py, line 522, in __bootstrap_inner File /usr/lib/python2.6/threading.py, line 477, in run File /usr/bin/mickeyterm, line 553, in reader type 'exceptions.OSError': [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor Regards Jeff ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
2009/5/10 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com: You can also use SHR Settings - Phone - Modem information. So I can. Thanks Jeff ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
Am So 3. Mai 2009 schrieb Rask Ingemann Lambertsen: On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 11:10:28AM +0200, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote: I have to access the image from somewhere. At 270Mb, it is to big to fit in flash at the same time as an OS. I can't plug in 2 uSDs, USB card reader if you have one. so I would like to mount the directory where the image is stored on the host computer, so that I can dd to the device in /dev One or more of the following ought to do the trick. If you use a USB card reader, it will be /dev/sda instead of /dev/mmcblk0: # wget URL-to-image -O /dev/mmcblk0 # scp location-of-image /dev/mmcblk0 sorry the image is .tgz, so you'll need to pipe it thru tar /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
2009/5/1 Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org: Am Fr 1. Mai 2009 schrieb Jeffrey Ratcliffe: 2009/4/23 Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org: We recommend flashing MOKO11 using the uSD method described in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing#uSD-card_Image I'd like to do this, but my uSD card isn't recognised by my host machine. How can I mount a directory on my host machine from the FR? you don't have any directory. Instructions clearly state to dd to the physical device in /dev I have to access the image from somewhere. At 270Mb, it is to big to fit in flash at the same time as an OS. I can't plug in 2 uSDs, so I would like to mount the directory where the image is stored on the host computer, so that I can dd to the device in /dev Jeff ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
2009/4/23 Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org: We recommend flashing MOKO11 using the uSD method described in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing#uSD-card_Image I'd like to do this, but my uSD card isn't recognised by my host machine. How can I mount a directory on my host machine from the FR? Regards Jeff ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
Paul pault...@gmail.com wrote: The distro I've used that missed phone calls the most was FSO, zhone was pretty unstable. But I have missed calls on SHR and OM2008.12. OM2008.12 has terrible echo and is unusable last I tried. It's true that Om2008.12 is unusable (for mobile phone use). But is this relevant any longer? And which version of FSO did you use? Testing versions of Om2009 (based on FSO milestone 5.5) are available: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 Nick ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
Am Do 23. April 2009 schrieb Nicola Mfb: 2009/4/20 Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de: [...] I'm curious, what distro are you using? I would be pretty surprised if carrier differences are having that effect. May the gsm firmware influence that? For sure. MOKO11 fixes the doesn't resume from 1. suspend after GSM powerup issue. We recommend flashing MOKO11 using the uSD method described in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing#uSD-card_Image /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:08:14PM -0400, Paul wrote: The distro I've used that missed phone calls the most was FSO, zhone was pretty unstable. But I have missed calls on SHR and OM2008.12. OM2008.12 has terrible echo and is unusable last I tried. If there were new patches since Feb, I'll be out of date. I had to get a real phone because I couldn't use my freerunner. There was a GSM firmware bug such that you would miss all calls during the first suspend after a reboot or power on[1]. It will happen when the firmware is moko10 or older and your kernel is older than 2009-02-22. Later kernels include a workaround[2] for the firmware bug and the moko11 firmware[3] from 2009-02-24 fixes the bug. [1] https://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2009-February/008497.html [2] https://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2009-February/008832.html [3] https://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/moko11/ -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
I would like to see with a release of a distro, a list (and links to) all the images to recreate the build exactly. Right now there are way too many variables, what version of Qi, bootloader, etc. This will enable people to recreate, exactly, the desired distro in question. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dkwrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:08:14PM -0400, Paul wrote: The distro I've used that missed phone calls the most was FSO, zhone was pretty unstable. But I have missed calls on SHR and OM2008.12. OM2008.12 has terrible echo and is unusable last I tried. If there were new patches since Feb, I'll be out of date. I had to get a real phone because I couldn't use my freerunner. There was a GSM firmware bug such that you would miss all calls during the first suspend after a reboot or power on[1]. It will happen when the firmware is moko10 or older and your kernel is older than 2009-02-22. Later kernels include a workaround[2] for the firmware bug and the moko11 firmware[3] from 2009-02-24 fixes the bug. [1] https://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2009-February/008497.html [2] https://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2009-February/008832.html [3] https://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/moko11/ -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
Am Mo 20. April 2009 schrieb Daniel Willmann: On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:51:09 -0400 Paul pault...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de wrote: I had to clearify that if there still are problems with incoming calls (which I honestly don't believe) then they are not immediately noticable. While this may be true with your current carrier and phone usage, this is far from the case with my phone. Part of the problem Openmoko as a community is facing is adequate testing. With something as complex as worldwide telephony system, it's the biggest detriment to Openmoko's success. I'm curious, what distro are you using? I would be pretty surprised if carrier differences are having that effect. I second this /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
The distro I've used that missed phone calls the most was FSO, zhone was pretty unstable. But I have missed calls on SHR and OM2008.12. OM2008.12 has terrible echo and is unusable last I tried. If there were new patches since Feb, I'll be out of date. I had to get a real phone because I couldn't use my freerunner. On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.orgwrote: Am Mo 20. April 2009 schrieb Daniel Willmann: On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:51:09 -0400 Paul pault...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de wrote: I had to clearify that if there still are problems with incoming calls (which I honestly don't believe) then they are not immediately noticable. While this may be true with your current carrier and phone usage, this is far from the case with my phone. Part of the problem Openmoko as a community is facing is adequate testing. With something as complex as worldwide telephony system, it's the biggest detriment to Openmoko's success. I'm curious, what distro are you using? I would be pretty surprised if carrier differences are having that effect. I second this /j ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
2009/4/20 Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de: [...] I'm curious, what distro are you using? I would be pretty surprised if carrier differences are having that effect. May the gsm firmware influence that? Nicola ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 05:33 +0200, Nicola Mfb wrote: 2009/4/20 Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de: [...] I'm curious, what distro are you using? I would be pretty surprised if carrier differences are having that effect. May the gsm firmware influence that? Nicola I know when I went from moko2 to moko11, I suddenly stopped missing calls. The only indication of the park-unpark issue I ever had was when the freerunner first came out, and a little while later with zhone on debian showing messages of registered to fido Only popup messages though, not in zhone itself. I would never see this issue on any other stack, though at times I would miss calls. Since moko11 I do not think I have missed a call. What pissed me off the most was not being able to reproduce the problem: I tried to explain this to someone who thought I was ignoring them so they tried to phone me and it rang! That did not look good. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:51:09 -0400 Paul pault...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de wrote: I had to clearify that if there still are problems with incoming calls (which I honestly don't believe) then they are not immediately noticable. While this may be true with your current carrier and phone usage, this is far from the case with my phone. Part of the problem Openmoko as a community is facing is adequate testing. With something as complex as worldwide telephony system, it's the biggest detriment to Openmoko's success. I'm curious, what distro are you using? I would be pretty surprised if carrier differences are having that effect. If you don't mind please try kernel and rootfs in http://totalueberwachung.de/~alphaone/openmoko/buzzfix/ and see if you are still missing phone calls. If you are I would be very interested in any logs you can produce. For that please make sure /etc/frameworkd.conf reads log_to = file log_destination = /path/to/file in section [frameworkd] and log_level = DEBUG in section [ogsmd] Please file any bug reports at http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:52:55 -0700 (PDT) halbtaxabo...@yahoo.com wrote: Sean Chadwell smchadw...@gmail.com wrote: Don't waste all your time there, we're expecting the new 2009 version of the Openmoko distribution to arrive (well, there was a promise to have something last month already) at some stage. I don't think that waiting for the next release is a good idea. I was at Sean Moss-Pulz' talk in Bern on April 2. In the QA, somebody said that his Freerunner missed incoming calls. Sean M-P replied that this would be fixed really soon. I asked, When? and Sean said, June. I have attended that talk as well and I also encountered (surprisingly) many opinions at the Openmoko community stand saying the same. I can only talk about my experience (I'm currently working on some dbus testing infrastructure to say for sure), but telephony has been pretty stable for me (using FSO and zhone) for about three months now. I'm quite reluctant to say more about this until I have test results other than none of my friends have asked me why I don't answer the phone any more, but I had to clearify that if there still are problems with incoming calls (which I honestly don't believe) then they are not immediately noticable. Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
A semi-pointless aside: I've gathered there are some quoting problems in these threads, but I didn't write what is attributed to me, here (actually, it's two different authors . . . my own small contribution was elsewhere in the thread). On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de wrote: On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:52:55 -0700 (PDT) halbtaxabo...@yahoo.com wrote: Sean Chadwell smchadw...@gmail.com wrote: Don't waste all your time there, we're expecting the new 2009 version of the Openmoko distribution to arrive (well, there was a promise to have something last month already) at some stage. I don't think that waiting for the next release is a good idea. I was at Sean Moss-Pulz' talk in Bern on April 2. In the QA, somebody said that his Freerunner missed incoming calls. Sean M-P replied that this would be fixed really soon. I asked, When? and Sean said, June. I have attended that talk as well and I also encountered (surprisingly) many opinions at the Openmoko community stand saying the same. I can only talk about my experience (I'm currently working on some dbus testing infrastructure to say for sure), but telephony has been pretty stable for me (using FSO and zhone) for about three months now. I'm quite reluctant to say more about this until I have test results other than none of my friends have asked me why I don't answer the phone any more, but I had to clearify that if there still are problems with incoming calls (which I honestly don't believe) then they are not immediately noticable. Regards, Daniel Willmann ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
