Re: need sugestions

2009-11-24 Thread Iurii



arne anka wrote:
 
 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:14:2a:a9:4d:fb
   inet addr:192.168.0.200  Bcast:192.168.0.255
 
 here's something wrong already.
 a) eth0 should not have address 192.168.0.200 (for the purpose of easy  
 access to the fr, that is) and
 b) specifically not, when everything is disconnected
 
 
 usb0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d2:d8:e1:48:cd:a2
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:39 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
   RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:5321 (5.1 KB)

 usb0:avahi Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d2:d8:e1:48:cd:a2
   inet addr:169.254.9.209  Bcast:169.254.255.255   
 Mask:255.255.0.0
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
 
 eth0 retains the ip and usb0 does not get any.
 in theory you need the two first commands i posted now (ifdown usb0 and  
 ifconfig), in praxi it wouldn't help much since it most likely clashes  
 with your existing network configuration.
 
 
 here im trying to add a new route : sudo route add-host 192.168.0.202 dev
 usb0
 
 hardly probable to work -- usb0 has no ip. you did not do ipdown/ifconfig.
 
 there are some serious issues with your network configuration (from the  
 point of fr networking at least), which need to be solved first.
 theoretically, you could circumvent them by using another mask and  
 iptables and stuff.
 
 what's for the moment is mots important, is to figure out why eth0 uses  
 192.168.0.200 and why it does retain the ip even when disconnected (by  
 which i mean cable being unplugged).
 most lilkly avahi is guilty ...
 
 please, check the necessary tools for the configured network properties  
 (there should be some tools with graphic user interface available, if  
 everything fails, post the content of /etc/network/interfaces) and figure  
 out, what ip range your router uses.
 furthermore, check if the software on your fr contains an text editor.
 
 
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tnx arne your help was very helpfull i solved the issue ssh now it work 
the problem was actually funny FR stucked i was have to take the battery out
and reconnect it after that it worked ok) 
i still have 1 qustion how can i write files to FR throw the ssh
what are the commands?
tnx again for your time

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-24 Thread arne anka
 i still have 1 qustion how can i write files to FR throw the ssh
 what are the commands?
 tnx again for your time


please, always quote only the really necessary parts!

as for writing files: depends on your definition of writing.
once you are via ssh on the fr, you can use vim, nano, emacs, whatever  
just like in another terminal.

if you mean transfering files to the fr, your friend is
scp
which is to be used _parallel_ to ssh, ie instead of ssh us sue scp just  
like cp:
scp foo.bar r...@192.168.0.202:/tmp/
will copy the file  foo.bar to the freerunner into the /tmp directory.

i guess, most graphical file mangers will support the fish protocol, which  
enables you to treat the fr just like another storage device.
in the manager's (konqueror, dolphin) addressbar  type

fish://r...@192.168.0.202/tmp/

and you should see the contents of that folder.

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-24 Thread Iurii

ok tnx a lot scp was exactly what i was looking for...
tnx to everybody for help now everything work pretty well 

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-23 Thread Iurii



Iurii wrote:
 
 
 http://openssh.comstyle.com/windows.html
 
looks pretty nice can you say me as well where can i find a driver for
windows XP because Xp is not recognizing the usb connection
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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-23 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/11/23 Iurii y...@reverseenterprises.com:
 looks pretty nice can you say me as well where can i find a driver for
 windows XP because Xp is not recognizing the usb connection

no, that's not surprising. windows is slightly crap you see

you really will be *much* better off using a decent operating system -
the hoops you have to jump through just to do something simple like
connect via ssh are ridiculous.

if you must persist with windows, take a look on the wiki for rndis.inf

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-23 Thread Iurii



Robin Paulson wrote:
 
 looks pretty nice can you say me as well where can i find a driver for
 windows XP because Xp is not recognizing the usb connection
 
 no, that's not surprising. windows is slightly crap you see
 
 you really will be *much* better off using a decent operating system -
 the hoops you have to jump through just to do something simple like
 connect via ssh are ridiculous.
 
 if you must persist with windows, take a look on the wiki for rndis.inf
 
 
 
i have ubuntu 8.10 as well for developing can you give me the steps to
connect it on it because is not recognizing as well 
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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-23 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/11/23 Iurii y...@reverseenterprises.com:
 i have ubuntu 8.10 as well for developing can you give me the steps to
 connect it on it because is not recognizing as well

a wise choice

have a look on the wiki (it's very useful is the wiki) for usb networking

all your questions will be answered

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-23 Thread Iurii



Robin Paulson wrote:
 
 
 a wise choice
 
 have a look on the wiki (it's very useful is the wiki) for usb networking
 
 all your questions will be answered 
 
i tried the suggestions of wiki but... i forced problems with it and i still
cant connect it that's why i asked here(
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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-23 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/11/23 Iurii y...@reverseenterprises.com:
 i tried the suggestions of wiki but... i forced problems with it and i still
 cant connect it that's why i asked here(

i use this bash script to connect. it probably has errors and bad
practice contained within, but it works for me:

sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24
sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
sudo ifconfig eth2 up
ssh r...@192.168.0.202

there are other methods. some of them may be better

eth2 may be your neo connection, it might not be. it depends upon the
network cards in your computer

try running ifconfig to find out which connection the neo is given

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-23 Thread Iurii



Robin Paulson wrote:
 
 2009/11/23 Iurii y...@reverseenterprises.com:
 i tried the suggestions of wiki but... i forced problems with it and i
 still
 cant connect it that's why i asked here(
 
 i use this bash script to connect. it probably has errors and bad
 practice contained within, but it works for me:
 
 sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24
 sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
 sudo ifconfig eth2 up
 ssh r...@192.168.0.202
 
 there are other methods. some of them may be better
 
 eth2 may be your neo connection, it might not be. it depends upon the
 network cards in your computer
 
 try running ifconfig to find out which connection the neo is given
 
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eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:14:2a:a9:4d:fb  
  UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:39863 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:4764 errors:0 dropped:1 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:5180502 (4.9 MB)  TX bytes:622521 (607.9 KB)
  Interrupt:16 Base address:0xe400 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:1778 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:1778 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:146052 (142.6 KB)  TX bytes:146052 (142.6 KB)

usb0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d2:d8:e1:48:cd:a2  
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:125 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:18376 (17.9 KB)

this is my ifconfig
can you try to explain me what should i do now ? 
the freeruneer is connected as usb0 i think sow

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-23 Thread Iurii



Iurii wrote:
 
 
 
 Robin Paulson wrote:
 
 2009/11/23 Iurii y...@reverseenterprises.com:
 i tried the suggestions of wiki but... i forced problems with it and i
 still
 cant connect it that's why i asked here(
 
 i use this bash script to connect. it probably has errors and bad
 practice contained within, but it works for me:
 
 sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24
 sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
 sudo ifconfig eth2 up
 ssh r...@192.168.0.202
 
 there are other methods. some of them may be better
 
 eth2 may be your neo connection, it might not be. it depends upon the
 network cards in your computer
 
 try running ifconfig to find out which connection the neo is given
 
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 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:14:2a:a9:4d:fb  
   UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:39863 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:4764 errors:0 dropped:1 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
   RX bytes:5180502 (4.9 MB)  TX bytes:622521 (607.9 KB)
   Interrupt:16 Base address:0xe400 
 
 loLink encap:Local Loopback  
   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
   inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
   RX packets:1778 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:1778 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
   RX bytes:146052 (142.6 KB)  TX bytes:146052 (142.6 KB)
 
 usb0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d2:d8:e1:48:cd:a2  
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:125 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
   RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:18376 (17.9 KB)
 
 this is my ifconfig
 can you try to explain me what should i do now ? 
 the freeruneer is connected as usb0 i think sow
 
 
forget to say i dont have nothing connected now exept of freeruner throw USB
i disconected the lan for the moment
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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-23 Thread arne anka
ifdown usb0
ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.202 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
route add -host 192.168.0.202 dev usb0

for ubuntu, prefix every line with sudo.

the wiki page lists _all_ of the above!

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking

please a) read the wiki and b) post useful and complete error messages.
you never answered, what device was using 192.168.0.202 already nor gave  
really useful information so far!

for windows as ssh client you are probably best off with putty.

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-23 Thread Iurii



arne anka wrote:
 
 ifdown usb0
 ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.202 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
 route add -host 192.168.0.202 dev usb0
 
 for ubuntu, prefix every line with sudo.
 
 the wiki page lists _all_ of the above!
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking
 
 please a) read the wiki and b) post useful and complete error messages.
 you never answered, what device was using 192.168.0.202 already nor gave  
 really useful information so far!
 
 for windows as ssh client you are probably best off with putty.
 
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 im sory if i'm writing not clear i'try to correct my mistakes

Firstly im using ubuntu 2.6.24

At starting point i disconnect all the network devices from the machine 
my lan is disconnected as well
if i do ifconfig i get this output



eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:14:2a:a9:4d:fb  
  inet addr:192.168.0.200  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:39863 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:4764 errors:0 dropped:1 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:5180502 (4.9 MB)  TX bytes:622521 (607.9 KB)
  Interrupt:16 Base address:0xe400 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:1831 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:1831 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:149190 (145.6 KB)  TX bytes:149190 (145.6 KB)


After this im connecting my FR with USB cable 
and my ifconfig changes to :

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:14:2a:a9:4d:fb  
  inet addr:192.168.0.200  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:39863 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:4764 errors:0 dropped:1 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:5180502 (4.9 MB)  TX bytes:622521 (607.9 KB)
  Interrupt:16 Base address:0xe400 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:1835 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:1835 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:149542 (146.0 KB)  TX bytes:149542 (146.0 KB)

usb0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d2:d8:e1:48:cd:a2  
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:39 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:5321 (5.1 KB)

usb0:avahi Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d2:d8:e1:48:cd:a2  
  inet addr:169.254.9.209  Bcast:169.254.255.255  Mask:255.255.0.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1

At this point my PC is connected only with FR (no other devices)
here im checking my kernel IP routing table
$netstat -r 

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt
Iface
192.168.0.200   *   255.255.255.255 UH0 0  0
eth0
192.168.0.0 *255.255.255.0  U0  0 
0 eth0
link-local  *   255.255.0.0 U0  0   
  
0 usb0
default *   0.0.0.0   U0  0 

0 usb0

here im trying to add a new route : sudo route add-host 192.168.0.202 dev
usb0
$netstat -r 
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt
Iface
192.168.0.202   *   255.255.255.255 UH0   0 
0 usb0
192.168.0.200   *   255.255.255.255 UH0   0 
0 eth0
192.168.0.0 *255.255.255.0 U 0   0 
0 eth0
link-local  *   255.255.0.0U 00 

0 usb0
default *   0.0.0.0  U 0   
0  0 usb0

and after this im trying to ssh 
#ssh r...@192.168.0.202
ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: no route to host

tnx a lot for your time i really apriciate that i was reading the wiki and
tryed all the staff which it offers with no luck


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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-23 Thread arne anka
 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:14:2a:a9:4d:fb
   inet addr:192.168.0.200  Bcast:192.168.0.255

here's something wrong already.
a) eth0 should not have address 192.168.0.200 (for the purpose of easy  
access to the fr, that is) and
b) specifically not, when everything is disconnected


 usb0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d2:d8:e1:48:cd:a2
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:39 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
   RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:5321 (5.1 KB)

 usb0:avahi Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d2:d8:e1:48:cd:a2
   inet addr:169.254.9.209  Bcast:169.254.255.255   
 Mask:255.255.0.0
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1

eth0 retains the ip and usb0 does not get any.
in theory you need the two first commands i posted now (ifdown usb0 and  
ifconfig), in praxi it wouldn't help much since it most likely clashes  
with your existing network configuration.


 here im trying to add a new route : sudo route add-host 192.168.0.202 dev
 usb0

hardly probable to work -- usb0 has no ip. you did not do ipdown/ifconfig.

there are some serious issues with your network configuration (from the  
point of fr networking at least), which need to be solved first.
theoretically, you could circumvent them by using another mask and  
iptables and stuff.

what's for the moment is mots important, is to figure out why eth0 uses  
192.168.0.200 and why it does retain the ip even when disconnected (by  
which i mean cable being unplugged).
most lilkly avahi is guilty ...

please, check the necessary tools for the configured network properties  
(there should be some tools with graphic user interface available, if  
everything fails, post the content of /etc/network/interfaces) and figure  
out, what ip range your router uses.
furthermore, check if the software on your fr contains an text editor.


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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-22 Thread Seth Rothenberg
 why oh why didnt they go dhcp like everybody else does!

I don't want to sound like I log in once a month to stir the hive,
butcouldn't someone change this themselves? -
i.e., is there a DHCP server in a repository, or could there be?

Could it be done with a complete package that
could be opkg added?

Seth
(whose current problem is not ips and routes, more like an MBR problem :-)

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-22 Thread Iurii

Hello again to everybody 
i hope everybody spend their weekends good)
the problem is not solved yet i will try the decisions now 
btw can somebody say me can i use windows terminal? to browse the os
for example Hyper terminal ?or any which runs on windows 
maybe you can suggest smth ?i will be glad to try 

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-22 Thread halbtaxabo-om
 From: Iurii y...@reverseenterprises.com
 To: support@lists.openmoko.org
 Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 8:04:29 AM
 Subject: Re: need sugestions
 
 
 btw can somebody say me can i use windows terminal? to browse the os
 for example Hyper terminal ?or any which runs on windows 
 maybe you can suggest smth ?i will be glad to try 

http://openssh.comstyle.com/windows.html
or install cygwin.
But why don't you just use an operating system that supports standards out of 
the box?

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-20 Thread Iurii

First of all tnx for such a quick reply 

Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 
 
 You can use any software you like. I am using xterm just like on my PC.
 
can you guide me on installing it ?
before taking the FR i had only practice with Gumstix boards and and they
was perfectly working with windows Hyper terminal 
 i am little confused because of a new equipment 


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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-20 Thread Iurii



Davide wrote:
 
 On Friday 20 November 2009 09:15:42 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 
 But every recent distribution should support it, even qtmoko will allow to
 run 
 it over QX.
 
really happy to hear that 

so the main qestion for now to me is how can i upload my program to FR?
P.S. i have 2 delopepment PC's one is runing Ubuntu and 2 Windows
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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-20 Thread Iurii



rusolis wrote:
 
 If you can connect the FR to your Linux box through usb, then you can use
 ssh and scp to copy and install stuff.
 

i have connected my FR with the usb Cable and i started then 
ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0

ifconfig
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:14:2a:a9:4d:fb  
  UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:10455 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:2131 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:2273585 (2.1 MB)  TX bytes:208033 (203.1 KB)
  Interrupt:16 Base address:0xe400 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:516 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:516 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:25800 (25.1 KB)  TX bytes:25800 (25.1 KB)

usb0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 5a:01:10:2e:59:4d  
  inet addr:192.168.0.200  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:109 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:16042 (15.6 KB)

Then:
ssh 192.168.0.200
ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Connection refused

am i missing any steps or doing smth wrong?
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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-20 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Friday 20 November 2009 10:34:25 Iurii wrote:

 Then:
 ssh 192.168.0.200
 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Connection refused

You're trying to ssh your own machine.
Default FR IP is 192.168.0.202 


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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-20 Thread Iurii



Davide wrote:
 
 On Friday 20 November 2009 10:34:25 Iurii wrote:

 Then:
 ssh 192.168.0.200
 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Connection refused
 
 You're trying to ssh your own machine.
 Default FR IP is 192.168.0.202 
 
 

 opss you are right silly i am:)

ssh r...@192.168.0.202
ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: No route to host

what does this mean ?

when i've tried to ping 192.168.0.202 
PING 192.168.0.202 (192.168.0.202) 56(84) bytes of data
From 169.254.3.145 icpm_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
From 169.254.3.145 icpm_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
From 169.254.3.145 icpm_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable
etc

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-20 Thread arne anka
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:23:01 +0100, Iurii y...@reverseenterprises.com  
wrote:




 Davide wrote:

 On Friday 20 November 2009 10:34:25 Iurii wrote:

 Then:
 ssh 192.168.0.200
 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Connection refused

 You're trying to ssh your own machine.
 Default FR IP is 192.168.0.202



  opss you are right silly i am:)

 ssh r...@192.168.0.202
 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: No route to host

 what does this mean ?

you still miss the route

route add -host 192.168.0.202 dev usb0

as per
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking

check the wiki page and adjust your setup accordingly.

 when i've tried to ping 192.168.0.202
 PING 192.168.0.202 (192.168.0.202) 56(84) bytes of data
 From 169.254.3.145 icpm_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
 From 169.254.3.145 icpm_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
 From 169.254.3.145 icpm_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable
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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-20 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Friday 20 November 2009 11:36:11 Iurii wrote:
 arne anka wrote:

 i've done that
 sudo route add -host 192.168.0.202 dev usb0
 SIOCADDRT: File exists
 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: No route to host
 same ping as well
 wiki also says that it might be bad usb cable i checked with 3 cables with
 no luck

Please, post the output of route, ifconfig -a



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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-20 Thread arne anka
well, let's start with the output of

netstat -rn

and then, check, if ssh is running at all on the freerunner -- i can't  
imagine the fr to be without a terminal emulator, even out of the box.
last, but not least, check your firewall etc.

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-20 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Iurii y...@reverseenterprises.com writes:
 can you guide me on installing it ?

I just used apt-get install xterm :-)

Freerunner is just a piece of hardware, you can use any software you
like. There's no reason to do something in some special way if you
don't want to.


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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-20 Thread Iurii



arne anka wrote:
 
 
 netstat -rn
 
 
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt
Iface
192.168.0.202   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0  0
usb0
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
usb0

I checked the FR there is no emulator on it
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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-20 Thread arne anka
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt
 Iface
 192.168.0.202   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0  0
 usb0
 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
 usb0


where does that come from?
_202_ has to be the freerunner -- ie no interface on your host and now  
other device in your network is allowed to have that ip.

if you already assigned some other device that ip, you will not be able to  
reach the fr.

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-20 Thread William Kenworthy
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 12:26 +0100, arne anka wrote:
  Kernel IP routing table
  Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt
  Iface
  192.168.0.202   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0  0
  usb0
  192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
  usb0
 
 
 where does that come from?
 _202_ has to be the freerunner -- ie no interface on your host and now  
 other device in your network is allowed to have that ip.
 
 if you already assigned some other device that ip, you will not be able to  
 reach the fr.

not just device, but do you have a 192.168.0.0/24 network on your PC
already?

Using that IP was one of the dummest design decisions ...

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-20 Thread Joachim Ott
2009/11/20 Iurii y...@reverseenterprises.com:



 arne anka wrote:


 netstat -rn


 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt
 Iface
 192.168.0.202   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.255 UH        0 0          0
 usb0
 192.168.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0
 usb0

Remove that 2nd route to usb0, it should disappear with:

route del -net 192.168.0.0/24

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-20 Thread Nelson Castillo
 Using that IP was one of the dummest design decisions ...

Isn't it easy to solve this problem with iptables?
Or with a specific route entry?

Perhaps it should go to a FAQ.

Once you get to  log in for the first time you can change that IP en
/etc/network/interfaces .

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-20 Thread William Kenworthy
Yes its easy to solve if you know how routing and networking works.  But
the people who are getting caught time and time again are those who are
new to FR, often new to networking and linux in general and need help
with arcane settings to fix it.  Not insoluble, but easily avoidable if
they had chosen some obscure number in the first place.

Add to that even those of us who know what they are doing have to either
reconfigure the FR every reflash or upgrade, or redesign our network(s)
in order to add it in with minimal ongoing disruption - why oh why didnt
they go dhcp like everybody else does!

BillK



On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 12:29 -0500, Nelson Castillo wrote:
  Using that IP was one of the dummest design decisions ...
 
 Isn't it easy to solve this problem with iptables?
 Or with a specific route entry?
 
 Perhaps it should go to a FAQ.
 
 Once you get to  log in for the first time you can change that IP en
 /etc/network/interfaces .
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need sugestions

2009-11-19 Thread Iurii

Hello everybody
i have just received my openmoko Neo Freerunner + (Developer board)
i wanted to ask a few question before developing
1. which software the openmoko uses to control OS (standart terminal wont
work?)
*when i received the Neo it came without any soft and The OS doesnt haves
the terminal aswell.
i read the wiki i found all the stuff (but i want a suggestion from people
who allready is using)
2. How to make a backup if reflashing
again i read the wiki but i want to listen opinions
3.bassicly whats the difference betwenn NAND and the other memory.
4.does the factory OS support GTK+ or i have to reflash it?
because i have a program based on my needs i wrote it before
5.and how to actually browse the OS files i found out dfu-util should be
like a terminal?
can i get a small tutorial for that? 
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