Re: Cross Deletion
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 08:11:07PM +, Joe Fedorowicz wrote: We currently have an XMPP setup, but there is one major glitch. Basically, when a user removes somebody from their buddy list, they are themselves removed from that other persons' list. This is a major problem as our lists change frequently. This is the way this is supposed to work. The buddy list serves a number of duties in XMPP. Beyond the normal usage of being a list of people/entities you would like quick access to it is also the mechanism by which permissions granted to other people to see one's own status are stored (and vice versa). When someone requests to add you to their buddy list and you grant them permission that permission is stored in your roster. When you remove someone from your roster you also revoke that permission (thus rendering the other person unable to see your online status anymore). This doesn't remove you from their buddy list but it will make you never show up as online (showing offline buddies should still show you as offline/unauthorized/etc. though). If you want to stop being party to someone else's online status then the proper thing to do is to unsubscribe from their presence (e.g. right-click-Unsubscribe in pidgin). This will leave them on your buddy list and thus leave your grant of permission to them intact. Does that make sense? -Etan ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Cross Deletion
It makes perfect sense now. As a secondary question, is there a way (plugin or otherwise) to not allow this? Is there a way to disable the delete button? Thank you, ~Joe -Original Message- From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Etan Reisner Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:17 PM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: Cross Deletion On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 08:11:07PM +, Joe Fedorowicz wrote: We currently have an XMPP setup, but there is one major glitch. Basically, when a user removes somebody from their buddy list, they are themselves removed from that other persons' list. This is a major problem as our lists change frequently. This is the way this is supposed to work. The buddy list serves a number of duties in XMPP. Beyond the normal usage of being a list of people/entities you would like quick access to it is also the mechanism by which permissions granted to other people to see one's own status are stored (and vice versa). When someone requests to add you to their buddy list and you grant them permission that permission is stored in your roster. When you remove someone from your roster you also revoke that permission (thus rendering the other person unable to see your online status anymore). This doesn't remove you from their buddy list but it will make you never show up as online (showing offline buddies should still show you as offline/unauthorized/etc. though). If you want to stop being party to someone else's online status then the proper thing to do is to unsubscribe from their presence (e.g. right-click-Unsubscribe in pidgin). This will leave them on your buddy list and thus leave your grant of permission to them intact. Does that make sense? -Etan ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Cross Deletion
Ok, thanks. On Feb 14, 2012, at 2:14 AM, Dave Warren li...@hireahit.commailto:li...@hireahit.com wrote: On 2/13/2012 12:11 PM, Joe Fedorowicz wrote: We currently have an XMPP setup, but there is one major glitch. Basically, when a user removes somebody from their buddy list, they are themselves removed from that other persons’ list. This is a major problem as our lists change frequently. I’ve scoured the web for a fix, to no avail. Help? That sounds like behaviour on the part of the XMPP server itself, rather than something the client can control. You might have better luck looking for a setting to modify on your XMPP server. -- Dave Warren, CEO Hire A Hit Consulting Services http://ca.linkedin.com/in/davejwarren ___ Support@pidgin.immailto:Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Cross Deletion
Hello, We currently have an XMPP setup, but there is one major glitch. Basically, when a user removes somebody from their buddy list, they are themselves removed from that other persons' list. This is a major problem as our lists change frequently. I've scoured the web for a fix, to no avail. Help? Thanks, Joe Fedorowicz Desktop Support Specialist [Description: Description: Description: Description: HM_Logo_2011_Website]http://www.harmelin.com/ P: 484-270-9541 | F: 484-270-9527 c: 215-738-1489 | O: x1148 or x1200 [Description: Description: Description: Description: FaceBookSignature]http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bala-Cynwyd-PA/Harmelin-Media/167914177750?v=info#/pages/Bala-Cynwyd-PA/Harmelin-Media/167914177750?v=wall [Description: Description: Description: Description: TwitterSignature] http://twitter.com/harmelinmedia [Description: Description: Description: Description: LinkedInSignature] http://www.linkedin.com/company/harmelin-media inline: image001.pnginline: image002.pnginline: image003.pnginline: image004.png___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Cross Deletion
On 2/13/2012 12:11 PM, Joe Fedorowicz wrote: We currently have an XMPP setup, but there is one major glitch. Basically, when a user removes somebody from their buddy list, they are themselves removed from that other persons' list. This is a major problem as our lists change frequently. I've scoured the web for a fix, to no avail. Help? That sounds like behaviour on the part of the XMPP server itself, rather than something the client can control. You might have better luck looking for a setting to modify on your XMPP server. -- Dave Warren, CEO Hire A Hit Consulting Services http://ca.linkedin.com/in/davejwarren ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
