Re: Recovering Log or Buddylist

[Ethan Blanton]

David Woolley wrote:
> On 09/11/17 16:18, Richard Hector wrote:
> > If my phone company in New Zealand goes away, that doesn't mean your
> > phone number in Texas is now useless - I can get a new connection from a
> > new company, and call you as before.
> 
> Instant messaging systems aren't interconnected in the way that phone
> companies are.  A better analogy is that, if all voice phones cease to
> operate, you can still send paper mail to your postal address in Texas. Some
> IM services use addresses that only they can use, like the phone number,
> others allow you to use the equivalent of looking you up in the phone
> directory every time.

XMPP behaves exactly as Richard stated.  When ddg shut off, for
example, I moved some of my ddg contacts to my own XMPP server and was
none the worse for the wear.

Ethan

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Re: Recovering Log or Buddylist

[David Woolley]

On 09/11/17 16:18, Richard Hector wrote:

If my phone company in New Zealand goes away, that doesn't mean your
phone number in Texas is now useless - I can get a new connection from a
new company, and call you as before.


Instant messaging systems aren't interconnected in the way that phone 
companies are.  A better analogy is that, if all voice phones cease to 
operate, you can still send paper mail to your postal address in Texas. 
Some IM services use addresses that only they can use, like the phone 
number, others allow you to use the equivalent of looking you up in the 
phone directory every time.


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Re: Recovering Log or Buddylist

[Richard Hector]

On 10/11/17 03:15, Rich Allcorn wrote:
> Buddy list is a list of accounts on the server. If the server goes
> off-line, those accounts go off-line, and are no longer available, until
> the server comes back up.  

Except it's federated, right? I run and use my own server, but I also
have buddies who use other servers.

> It’s like a telephone landline account. You have your landline account
> through the phone company. If the phone company goes down, sodas your
> landline. The only way you could keep that landline would be reported
> out and take it with you, something it’s not available with user
> accounts on servers.

If my phone company in New Zealand goes away, that doesn't mean your
phone number in Texas is now useless - I can get a new connection from a
new company, and call you as before.

> 
> If you use Google as your box server, your Google account will always be
> active only because Google is always available and online.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - /rich/ -
> 
> 
> *Rich Allcorn* 
> email:  r...@allcorn.us   
> 
> 15612 Poynette Place, Austin Texas  78717-5351  USA
> 
> 01 512.782.9979 voice | 01 512.844.7424 cell | 
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>  
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> 
> A man's gift makes room for him, and brings him before great men
> ...[Proverbs 18:16   NASB]
>  
> 
>    Apple
> 
>  (.vcf)
>  |  Android
> 
>  (.csv)
>  |  Windows
> 
>  (.csv)
>   +  add  Headshot
> 
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>    
> ... don't forget to check out my LINUX
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> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2017, at 20:08, Richard Hector  > wrote:
> 
> That assumes the friend is (was) on the server that's down. I assumed it
> was the poster's server which was no longer active.
> 
> ~/.purple/blist.xml seems to have my buddy list on linux; I don't know
> where it would be on other systems.
> 
> Likewise, ~/.purple/logs/jabber// seems to contain all my
> chat logs - arranged by remote user id, which is convenient for this case.
> 
> Richard
> 
> On 09/11/17 10:30, Rich Allcorn wrote:
>> If the server is down, there will be no point in locating the account ID. 
>> It will be inactive.
>>
>> I would recommend doing a Google search (not Bing) on the user's
>> information, to see if you can locate an alternative account they may be
>> using, so you can regain communications with them.
>>
>>
>>
>> - /rich/ -
>>
>> 
>> *Rich Allcorn* 
>> email:  r...@allcorn.us 
>>   
>>
>> 15612 Poynette Place, Austin Texas  78717-5351  USA
>> 01 512.782.9979 voice | 01 512.844.7424 cell | 
>> _r...@allcorn.us 
>> _ Google & Apple
>> Chat/Video/Voice  -  _richallcorn_ / /SKYPE Chat/Video/Voice 
>> KW7PTL  
>> |  WQTS370
>>  
>>  146.640MHz & 466.000  | GMRS  ch21/code7"DJ"   
>>
>> A man's gift makes room for him, and brings him before great men
>> ...[Proverbs 18:16  NASB]
>>  
>>
>>    Apple
>> 
>> (.vcf)  |  Android
>> 
>> (.csv)  |  Windows
>> 
>>  (.csv)
>>   +  add  Headshot
>> 
>>  (.jpg)   
>>    
>> ... don't forget to check out my LINUX 
>> page with loads of info, resources and information! 
>>
>> Locate me now, using the magic of Ham radio:  > >     
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:45 PM, > 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>    Hello,
>>
>>    I am trying to recover a friend's jabber username that I used to
>>    talk to over Pidgin. I am trying to locate log files to find it or
>>    perhaps a 

Re: Recovering Log or Buddylist

[Ethan Blanton]

Rich Allcorn wrote:
> Buddy list is a list of accounts on the server. If the server goes
> off-line, those accounts go off-line, and are no longer available,
> until the server comes back up.  

That is not entirely true.  We also cache a local copy, which is in
~/.purple/blist.xml.  This is the copy that Richard is referring to.
Likewise, the logs are stored locally in ~/.purple/logs/.
This is in addition to whatever server behaviors may be in effect.

Ethan

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Re: Recovering Log or Buddylist

[Rich Allcorn]

Buddy list is a list of accounts on the server. If the server goes off-line, 
those accounts go off-line, and are no longer available, until the server comes 
back up.  

It’s like a telephone landline account. You have your landline account through 
the phone company. If the phone company goes down, sodas your landline. The 
only way you could keep that landline would be reported out and take it with 
you, something it’s not available with user accounts on servers.

If you use Google as your box server, your Google account will always be active 
only because Google is always available and online.




- rich -


Rich Allcorn 
email:  r...@allcorn.us  

15612 Poynette Place, Austin Texas  78717-5351  USA
01 512.782.9979 voice | 01 512.844.7424 cell | 
r...@allcorn.us Google & Apple Chat/Video/Voice  -  richallcorn  SKYPE 
Chat/Video/Voice 
KW7PTL  |  WQTS370   146.640MHz & 466.000  | GMRS  ch21/code7"DJ"   

A man's gift makes room for him, and brings him before great men ...
[Proverbs 18:16  NASB]
 

   Apple (.vcf)  |  Android (.csv)  |  Windows (.csv)   +  add  Headshot (.jpg) 
  
... don't forget to check out my LINUX page with loads of info, resources and 
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Locate me now, using the magic of Ham radio:   



On Nov 8, 2017, at 20:08, Richard Hector  wrote:

That assumes the friend is (was) on the server that's down. I assumed it
was the poster's server which was no longer active.

~/.purple/blist.xml seems to have my buddy list on linux; I don't know
where it would be on other systems.

Likewise, ~/.purple/logs/jabber// seems to contain all my
chat logs - arranged by remote user id, which is convenient for this case.

Richard

> On 09/11/17 10:30, Rich Allcorn wrote:
> If the server is down, there will be no point in locating the account ID. 
> It will be inactive.
> 
> I would recommend doing a Google search (not Bing) on the user's
> information, to see if you can locate an alternative account they may be
> using, so you can regain communications with them.
> 
> 
> 
> - /rich/ -
> 
> 
> *Rich Allcorn* 
> email:  r...@allcorn.us   
> 
> 15612 Poynette Place, Austin Texas  78717-5351  USA
> 01 512.782.9979 voice | 01 512.844.7424 cell | 
> _r...@allcorn.us _ Google & Apple
> Chat/Video/Voice  -  _richallcorn_ / /SKYPE Chat/Video/Voice 
> KW7PTL  
> |  WQTS370
>  
>  146.640MHz & 466.000  | GMRS  ch21/code7"DJ"   
> 
> A man's gift makes room for him, and brings him before great men
> ...[Proverbs 18:16  NASB]
>  
> 
>    Apple
> 
> (.vcf)  |  Android
> 
> (.csv)  |  Windows
> 
>  (.csv)
>   +  add  Headshot
> 
>  (.jpg)   
>
> ... don't forget to check out my LINUX 
> page with loads of info, resources and information! 
> 
> Locate me now, using the magic of Ham radio:   > 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:45 PM,  > wrote:
> 
>Hello,
> 
>I am trying to recover a friend's jabber username that I used to
>talk to over Pidgin. I am trying to locate log files to find it or
>perhaps a buddy list if it is somehow saved. I no longer have access
>to the jabber account because the server is no longer active. Any ideas?
> 
> 
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Re: Recovering Log or Buddylist

[Richard Hector]

That assumes the friend is (was) on the server that's down. I assumed it
was the poster's server which was no longer active.

~/.purple/blist.xml seems to have my buddy list on linux; I don't know
where it would be on other systems.

Likewise, ~/.purple/logs/jabber// seems to contain all my
chat logs - arranged by remote user id, which is convenient for this case.

Richard

On 09/11/17 10:30, Rich Allcorn wrote:
> If the server is down, there will be no point in locating the account ID. 
> It will be inactive.
> 
> I would recommend doing a Google search (not Bing) on the user's
> information, to see if you can locate an alternative account they may be
> using, so you can regain communications with them.
> 
> 
> 
> - /rich/ -
> 
> 
> *Rich Allcorn* 
> email:  r...@allcorn.us   
> 
> 15612 Poynette Place, Austin Texas  78717-5351  USA
> 01 512.782.9979 voice | 01 512.844.7424 cell | 
> _r...@allcorn.us _ Google & Apple
> Chat/Video/Voice  -  _richallcorn_ / /SKYPE Chat/Video/Voice 
> KW7PTL  
> |  WQTS370
>  
>  146.640MHz & 466.000  | GMRS  ch21/code7"DJ"   
> 
> A man's gift makes room for him, and brings him before great men
> ...[Proverbs 18:16  NASB]
>  
> 
>    Apple
> 
> (.vcf)  |  Android
> 
> (.csv)  |  Windows
> 
>  (.csv)
>   +  add  Headshot
> 
>  (.jpg)   
>    
> ... don't forget to check out my LINUX 
> page with loads of info, resources and information! 
> 
> Locate me now, using the magic of Ham radio:   >     
> 
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:45 PM,  > wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am trying to recover a friend's jabber username that I used to
> talk to over Pidgin. I am trying to locate log files to find it or
> perhaps a buddy list if it is somehow saved. I no longer have access
> to the jabber account because the server is no longer active. Any ideas?
> 
> 
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Re: Recovering Log or Buddylist

[Rich Allcorn]

If the server is down, there will be no point in locating the account ID.
It will be inactive.

I would recommend doing a Google search (not Bing) on the user's
information, to see if you can locate an alternative account they may be
using, so you can regain communications with them.



- *rich* -


*Rich Allcorn*
email:  r...@allcorn.us

15612 Poynette Place, Austin Texas  78717-5351  USA
01 512.782.9979 voice | 01 512.844.7424 cell |
*r...@allcorn.us * Google & Apple Chat/Video/Voice  -
*richallcorn*  SKYPE Chat/Video/Voice
KW7PTL   |
WQTS370

 146.640MHz & 466.000  | GMRS  ch21/code7"DJ"

A man's gift makes room for him, and brings him before great men ...
 [Proverbs
18:16  NASB]


   Apple

(.vcf)  |  Android

(.csv)  |  Windows

(.csv)
  +  add  Headshot

 (.jpg)
... don't forget to check out my LINUX  page
with loads of info, resources and information!

Locate me now, using the magic of Ham radio:  https://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FKW7PTL>>

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:45 PM,  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am trying to recover a friend's jabber username that I used to talk to
> over Pidgin. I am trying to locate log files to find it or perhaps a buddy
> list if it is somehow saved. I no longer have access to the jabber account
> because the server is no longer active. Any ideas?
>
>
> Sent from myMail for iOS
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Recovering Log or Buddylist

[skitzo]

Hello,

I am trying to recover a friend's jabber username that I used to talk to over 
Pidgin. I am trying to locate log files to find it or perhaps a buddy list if 
it is somehow saved. I no longer have access to the jabber account because the 
server is no longer active. Any ideas?


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