Re: [Elphel-support] the discussion on the Heptaclops camera

2012-11-02 Thread Eric Boudrand
Hello Andrey, I do not find it was a so bad idea. Your discussion was interesting. ;) Regards. Éric Le jeudi 01 novembre 2012 à 10:27 -0700, support-list a écrit : > Hello Biel, > > I'm very sorry but it seems it was my bad idea to move this discussion here, > to the support mailing list. The

Re: [Elphel-support] the discussion on the Heptaclops camera

2012-11-02 Thread Biel Bestué de Luna
Ok, that's fine, thank you anyway for all the info! it was great fun to talk about it with you! 2012/11/1 support-list > Hello Biel, > > I'm very sorry but it seems it was my bad idea to move this discussion > here, to the support mailing list. There are 95 subscribers to it and I do > not want

Re: [Elphel-support] the discussion on the Heptaclops camera

2012-11-01 Thread support-list
Hello Biel, I'm very sorry but it seems it was my bad idea to move this discussion here, to the support mailing list. There are 95 subscribers to it and I do not want to push our discussion on general sensor basics and technology on them. It is an interesting topic but it is not directly relate

Re: [Elphel-support] the discussion on the Heptaclops camera

2012-11-01 Thread Biel Bestué de Luna
let me see if I've got shot noise correctly, the only way to have less shot noise would be to have more photons hit the photo-sites in order to excite more electrons, so bigger photo-sites would reduce shot noise isn't it? (that would also mean, bigger sensors in order to have the same final resolu

Re: [Elphel-support] the discussion on the Heptaclops camera

2012-10-30 Thread support-list
Hi Biel, have you read the article - http://www3.elphel.com/linuxdevices/articles/AT9913651997.html? And maybe also about the shot noise - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shot_noise ? On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 09:25:24 -0700 Biel Bestué de Luna wrote >Andrey, about only having 150 gray level

Re: [Elphel-support] the discussion on the Heptaclops camera

2012-10-30 Thread Biel Bestué de Luna
Andrey, about only having 150 gray levels, why does the camera only output 150 gray levels when the image that comes out of the sensor has 4096 output values? maybe this is because this amount of sampled information contain a lot of noise? and, if 8 bits allow 256 shades of gray, does that meant t

Re: [Elphel-support] the discussion on the Heptaclops camera

2012-10-28 Thread support-list
> > Biel Bestué says: > October 28, 2012 at 5:31 PM > damn, that is a lot of info. > the “GAINR,GAING,GAINB and GAINGB” values in the Elphel 35

[Elphel-support] the discussion on the Heptaclops camera

2012-10-28 Thread Biel Bestué de Luna
1. Biel Bestué says: October 27, 2012 at 4:12 AM Andrey, I understand this, but if you want to edit heavily the colour from footage filmed with the camera, the heightened bits per pixels are