Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
Rob wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 12/20/12 6:40 AM, Rob wrote: Philip TAYLOR wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Amen. The last job I had was in 1996 and ALL email was HTML. Where are you text-only people coming from? A world that recognises that it takes only 10 bytes to say "Thank you.", not

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/20/12 6:30 PM, NoOp wrote: > On 12/19/2012 11:59 AM, David E. Ross wrote: >> On 12/19/12 10:53 AM, Rob wrote: > ... >>> (I know I should join the development team instead of criticize, >>> however while I have done a lot of C programming in the past this >>> project is simply too large for me

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread NoOp
On 12/19/2012 11:59 AM, David E. Ross wrote: > On 12/19/12 10:53 AM, Rob wrote: ... >> (I know I should join the development team instead of criticize, >> however while I have done a lot of C programming in the past this >> project is simply too large for me. I tried finding the location >> of a b

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Daniel
Ed Mullen wrote: HTML email has become a de-facto standard for corporate email. Look around. and we all know the the "corporate world" can do no wrong!! . *NOT* -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozill

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Daniel
Ed Mullen wrote: Philip TAYLOR wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Amen. The last job I had was in 1996 and ALL email was HTML. Where are you text-only people coming from? A world that recognises that it takes only 10 bytes to say "Thank you.", not 2500. Philip Taylor And with my 15Mbps download

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Ed Mullen
David E. Ross wrote: On 12/19/12 5:09 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Rob wrote: David E. Ross wrote: However, the problem is easily resolved by composing only ASCII-formatted messages. This is not realistic in today's world when using the program in a company. Most mail being processed is in HTML. W

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Ed Mullen
David E. Ross wrote: On 12/20/12 9:29 AM, Rob wrote: Philip TAYLOR wrote: Rob wrote: The world today is no longer about bytes or kilobytes. Today we calculate in megabytes, gigabytes or terabytes. People no longer treat mail as a novelty that can transfer messages like a telex did in the

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Ed Mullen
Philip TAYLOR wrote: Rob wrote: The world today is no longer about bytes or kilobytes. Today we calculate in megabytes, gigabytes or terabytes. People no longer treat mail as a novelty that can transfer messages like a telex did in the past. They use it like a fax or letter. That means mai

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Ed Mullen
Rob wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 12/20/12 6:40 AM, Rob wrote: Philip TAYLOR wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Amen. The last job I had was in 1996 and ALL email was HTML. Where are you text-only people coming from? A world that recognises that it takes only 10 bytes to say "Thank you.", not

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Ed Mullen
Rob wrote: Philip TAYLOR wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Amen. The last job I had was in 1996 and ALL email was HTML. Where are you text-only people coming from? A world that recognises that it takes only 10 bytes to say "Thank you.", not 2500. The world today is no longer about bytes or kil

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Ed Mullen
Philip TAYLOR wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Amen. The last job I had was in 1996 and ALL email was HTML. Where are you text-only people coming from? A world that recognises that it takes only 10 bytes to say "Thank you.", not 2500. Philip Taylor And with my 15Mbps download connection??? W

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Ed Mullen
David E. Ross wrote: On 12/20/12 6:40 AM, Rob wrote: Philip TAYLOR wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Amen. The last job I had was in 1996 and ALL email was HTML. Where are you text-only people coming from? A world that recognises that it takes only 10 bytes to say "Thank you.", not 2500. The

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Ray_Net
Rob wrote, On 20/12/2012 19:31: Philip TAYLOR wrote: Rob wrote: What does this message demonstrate? That information can be transmitted very successfully using e-mail without requiring HTML, markup, letter-heads, signatures, etc. But I never denied that! What I claim is that it requires HT

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Ray_Net
Philip TAYLOR wrote, On 20/12/2012 11:57: Ed Mullen wrote: Amen. The last job I had was in 1996 and ALL email was HTML. Where are you text-only people coming from? A world that recognises that it takes only 10 bytes to say "Thank you.", not 2500. Philip Taylor I suppose that you never use

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Rob
David E. Ross wrote: > On 12/20/12 9:29 AM, Rob wrote: >> Philip TAYLOR wrote: >>> >>> >>> Rob wrote: >>> The world today is no longer about bytes or kilobytes. Today we calculate in megabytes, gigabytes or terabytes. People no longer treat mail as a novelty that can transfer

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Rob
Philip TAYLOR wrote: > > > Rob wrote: > >> What does this message demonstrate? > > That information can be transmitted very successfully using e-mail > without requiring HTML, markup, letter-heads, signatures, etc. But I never denied that! What I claim is that it requires HTML mail to transmit e-

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/20/12 9:29 AM, Rob wrote: > Philip TAYLOR wrote: >> >> >> Rob wrote: >> >>> The world today is no longer about bytes or kilobytes. >>> Today we calculate in megabytes, gigabytes or terabytes. >>> >>> People no longer treat mail as a novelty that can transfer messages >>> like a telex did in

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Rob wrote: > What does this message demonstrate? That information can be transmitted very successfully using e-mail without requiring HTML, markup, letter-heads, signatures, etc. > It appears the accessability software industry focusses heavily on > mainstream software and less on opensource p

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Rob
Philip TAYLOR wrote: > > > Rob wrote: > >> The world today is no longer about bytes or kilobytes. >> Today we calculate in megabytes, gigabytes or terabytes. >> >> People no longer treat mail as a novelty that can transfer messages >> like a telex did in the past. They use it like a fax or lette

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Rob
David E. Ross wrote: > On 12/20/12 6:40 AM, Rob wrote: >> Philip TAYLOR wrote: >>> >>> >>> Ed Mullen wrote: >>> Amen. The last job I had was in 1996 and ALL email was HTML. Where are you text-only people coming from? >>> >>> A world that recognises that it takes only 10 bytes to say

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Rob wrote: > The world today is no longer about bytes or kilobytes. > Today we calculate in megabytes, gigabytes or terabytes. > > People no longer treat mail as a novelty that can transfer messages > like a telex did in the past. They use it like a fax or letter. > That means mail includes ma

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/20/12 6:40 AM, Rob wrote: > Philip TAYLOR wrote: >> >> >> Ed Mullen wrote: >> >>> Amen. The last job I had was in 1996 and ALL email was HTML. Where are >>> you text-only people coming from? >> >> A world that recognises that it takes only 10 bytes to say "Thank you.", >> not 2500. > > T

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/19/12 5:09 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: > Rob wrote: >> David E. Ross wrote: >>> However, the problem is easily resolved by composing only >>> ASCII-formatted messages. >> >> This is not realistic in today's world when using the program >> in a company. Most mail being processed is in HTML. >> We e

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Rob
Philip TAYLOR wrote: > > > Ed Mullen wrote: > >> Amen. The last job I had was in 1996 and ALL email was HTML. Where are you >> text-only people coming from? > > A world that recognises that it takes only 10 bytes to say "Thank you.", > not 2500. The world today is no longer about bytes or kilo

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Daniel
Rob wrote: Philip Chee wrote: I think some priority has to be given to fix both bugs. The pretty-printing should at least be made optional, defaulting to off, and the change that introduced the problem should be reverted or looked at. I had to disable font size preselection (by lockPref) temp

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Daniel
Philip TAYLOR wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Amen. The last job I had was in 1996 and ALL email was HTML. Where are you text-only people coming from? A world that recognises that it takes only 10 bytes to say "Thank you.", not 2500. Philip Taylor Amen, Philip! -- Daniel __

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Ed Mullen wrote: > Amen. The last job I had was in 1996 and ALL email was HTML. Where are you > text-only people coming from? A world that recognises that it takes only 10 bytes to say "Thank you.", not 2500. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey ma

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-20 Thread Rob
Philip Chee wrote: >> I think some priority has to be given to fix both bugs. >> The pretty-printing should at least be made optional, defaulting >> to off, and the change that introduced the problem should >> be reverted or looked at. >> >> I had to disable font size preselection (by lockPref)

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-19 Thread Philip Chee
On 19/12/2012 23:30, Rob wrote: > I found by accident that the 2.14.1 version we are using now has > a nasty bug in the message composition mode. > > When composing in HTML, and after setting a custom font size in > the options for message composition (default is medium, set to > small or large fo

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-19 Thread Ed Mullen
Rob wrote: David E. Ross wrote: However, the problem is easily resolved by composing only ASCII-formatted messages. This is not realistic in today's world when using the program in a company. Most mail being processed is in HTML. We even have HTML signatures. Amen. The last job I had was

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-19 Thread Rob
David E. Ross wrote: > However, the problem is easily resolved by composing only > ASCII-formatted messages. This is not realistic in today's world when using the program in a company. Most mail being processed is in HTML. We even have HTML signatures. ___

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-19 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/19/12 10:53 AM, Rob wrote: > WaltS wrote: >> On 12/19/2012 01:11 PM, Rob wrote: >>> WaltS wrote: On 12/19/2012 10:30 AM, Rob wrote: > I found by accident that the 2.14.1 version we are using now has > a nasty bug in the message composition mode. > > When composing in HT

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-19 Thread Rob
WaltS wrote: > On 12/19/2012 01:11 PM, Rob wrote: >> WaltS wrote: >>> On 12/19/2012 10:30 AM, Rob wrote: I found by accident that the 2.14.1 version we are using now has a nasty bug in the message composition mode. When composing in HTML, and after setting a custom font size i

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-19 Thread Rob
Ed Mullen wrote: > Rob wrote: >> I found by accident that the 2.14.1 version we are using now has >> a nasty bug in the message composition mode. >> >> When composing in HTML, and after setting a custom font size in >> the options for message composition (default is medium, set to >> small or larg

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-19 Thread WaltS
On 12/19/2012 01:11 PM, Rob wrote: WaltS wrote: On 12/19/2012 10:30 AM, Rob wrote: I found by accident that the 2.14.1 version we are using now has a nasty bug in the message composition mode. When composing in HTML, and after setting a custom font size in the options for message composition

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-19 Thread Rob
WaltS wrote: > On 12/19/2012 10:30 AM, Rob wrote: >> I found by accident that the 2.14.1 version we are using now has >> a nasty bug in the message composition mode. >> >> When composing in HTML, and after setting a custom font size in >> the options for message composition (default is medium, set

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-19 Thread Rob
David E. Ross wrote: > On 12/19/12 7:30 AM, Rob wrote: >> I found by accident that the 2.14.1 version we are using now has >> a nasty bug in the message composition mode. >> >> When composing in HTML, and after setting a custom font size in >> the options for message composition (default is mediu

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-19 Thread WaltS
On 12/19/2012 10:30 AM, Rob wrote: I found by accident that the 2.14.1 version we are using now has a nasty bug in the message composition mode. When composing in HTML, and after setting a custom font size in the options for message composition (default is medium, set to small or large for examp

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-19 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/19/12 7:30 AM, Rob wrote: > I found by accident that the 2.14.1 version we are using now has > a nasty bug in the message composition mode. > > When composing in HTML, and after setting a custom font size in > the options for message composition (default is medium, set to > small or large fo

Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-19 Thread Ed Mullen
Rob wrote: I found by accident that the 2.14.1 version we are using now has a nasty bug in the message composition mode. When composing in HTML, and after setting a custom font size in the options for message composition (default is medium, set to small or large for example) the composer peppers

Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)

2012-12-19 Thread Rob
I found by accident that the 2.14.1 version we are using now has a nasty bug in the message composition mode. When composing in HTML, and after setting a custom font size in the options for message composition (default is medium, set to small or large for example) the composer peppers a lot of nes