Re: When will SeaMonkey get Firefox v57's Gecko engine improvements?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 11/14/2017 5:00 PM, TCW wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:09:11 -0800, Ant  wrote:


I just tried Firefox v57 on a very old 2008 MacBook Pro with its
original HDD, 2 GB of RAM, etc. It runs very slowly softwares with Mac
OS X El Capitan v10.11.6. However, I was surprised how much faster
Firefox v57 was over the previous versions!

When will SeaMonkey get its Gecko improvements? Thank you in advance. :)


Probably not for a long time.


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When will SeaMonkey get Firefox v57's Gecko engine improvements?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

I just tried Firefox v57 on a very old 2008 MacBook Pro with its 
original HDD, 2 GB of RAM, etc. It runs very slowly softwares with Mac 
OS X El Capitan v10.11.6. However, I was surprised how much faster 
Firefox v57 was over the previous versions!


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Caption/Title attached to photo in Composer?

[klickitat47]

In Composer, how do I attach a caption/title to a photo or other graphic, 
either above or below? I especially need this when wrapping text around the 
photo/graphic? Format-->Image Properties-->Appearance-->Align Text to 
Image-->Wrap to the Left or Wrap to the Right?

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Re: Reply, Reply All, and Edit as New no longer populate address fields nor body in 2.49.1

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Are you using a custom theme?

FRG

Dave T wrote:

I just upgraded to 2.49.1 (32 bit) on a 64 bit Windows 10 Pro machine.  If I 
try to reply, reply all, or edit as new any message I have received, I get a 
mail compose form that is completely blank except for the subject line.  The 
to:, cc:, and body are completely empty.  It does not matter whether I try to 
reply from the context menu or from the reply (and replay all) buttons on an 
open email.  I've disabled all add-ons and can confirm I still have the 
problem.  My mail store is gmail and I am connecting through secure IMAP.

There were no errors in the install.  I am reverting back 2.48 for the time 
being.


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Reply, Reply All, and Edit as New no longer populate address fields nor body in 2.49.1

[Dave T]

I just upgraded to 2.49.1 (32 bit) on a 64 bit Windows 10 Pro machine.  If I 
try to reply, reply all, or edit as new any message I have received, I get a 
mail compose form that is completely blank except for the subject line.  The 
to:, cc:, and body are completely empty.  It does not matter whether I try to 
reply from the context menu or from the reply (and replay all) buttons on an 
open email.  I've disabled all add-ons and can confirm I still have the 
problem.  My mail store is gmail and I am connecting through secure IMAP.  

There were no errors in the install.  I am reverting back 2.48 for the time 
being.
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Error Message: There is not enough disk space...

[sean]

This is a new error message that I am receiving frequently since 
converting to SM 2.49.1:



There is not enough disk space to download new messages. Try deleting old mail, 
emptying the Trash folder, and compacting your mail folders, and then try again.


1) Seamonkey keeps losing track of my  local folders designation on a 
separate drive


2) the disk in question is 80% free

3) the disk the program is installed on is 50% free


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Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro

[WaltS48]

On 11/14/17 1:05 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 11/13/17 4:31 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:

bo1953 wrote:

Hello all, I have the above on my desktop and lt, the embedded password manager 
loses PW's at most
upgrades of SM.

I wish to find out what others use for PWM's that are compatible with SM or is 
it I need to look
for one which will work with W10 Pro instead?


I have what is included with SM, but I mostly use Saved Password Editor.

I never loose passwords, or anything else, during an upgrade.  But then I never 
do an upgrade.  I
copy the new version to a new tree, have it share all the previous data, and if 
at some point I
decide I like the new better, I delete the older.

Ray


I use Quick Passwords but it may not work anymore after the major changes that 
are coming to SM.
Does anyone know if Quick Passwords will continue to work in SM in the future.



What major changes?


I don't know. I thought SM was switching over to a new release and some add-ons 
would no longer work
or is that just for Firefox?



Just Firefox for now.

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Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro

[Arnie Goetchius]

WaltS48 wrote:
> On 11/13/17 4:31 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> Ray Davison wrote:
>>> bo1953 wrote:
 Hello all, I have the above on my desktop and lt, the embedded password 
 manager loses PW's at most
 upgrades of SM.

 I wish to find out what others use for PWM's that are compatible with SM 
 or is it I need to look
 for one which will work with W10 Pro instead?
>>>
>>> I have what is included with SM, but I mostly use Saved Password Editor.
>>>
>>> I never loose passwords, or anything else, during an upgrade.  But then I 
>>> never do an upgrade.  I
>>> copy the new version to a new tree, have it share all the previous data, 
>>> and if at some point I
>>> decide I like the new better, I delete the older.
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>> I use Quick Passwords but it may not work anymore after the major changes 
>> that are coming to SM.
>> Does anyone know if Quick Passwords will continue to work in SM in the 
>> future.
>>
> 
> What major changes?
> 
I don't know. I thought SM was switching over to a new release and some add-ons 
would no longer work
or is that just for Firefox?
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Re: 2.49.1 - Google Calendar

[Jonathan N. Little]

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 14/11/2017 8:21 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Good news with 2.49.1 seems to fix the issue with authentication 
with Google Calendar and the ReminderFox extension! I have been 
reluctance to upgrade from 2.46 because with 2.48 ReminderFox could 
not sync with Google and IMO there is no substitute extension that 
works as well as ReminderFox.


Damn! Spoke too soon. Same error as 2.48. I guess I am going back to 
2.46.


Jonathan, in SM 2.49.1 and/or 2.48, have you checked your Error 
Console (Tools->Web Development->Error Console) to see if there is 
anything there which might help the Devs out??


Clear the Console screen then do stuff until the error screen pops up.



How? The error console does not monitor the extension's configuration 
window. Trying to recreate the connection  to remote calendar only shows 
error in dialog




In a Virtualbox VM I installed SeaMonkey 2.46 and then installed 
ReminderFox. Added my Google Calendar as remote calendar to sync. No 
problem.


I can guarantee if I revert back to 2.46 ReminderFox will sync with no 
error. I did it 3 times with 2.48 so it is pretty likely it will do the 
same with 2.49.1.


I have currently installed Lightning with Provider for Google Calendar 
and Lightbird and it does work. It is just that ReminderFox has a much 
more concise yet still full featured UI. It was a very simple process to 
mark events as completed and not just dismiss them...


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Re: 2.49.1 no longer auto completes user name or password

[cmcadams]

Thank you. So basically the mothership doesn't care much about us, and isn't 
communicating changes well or perhaps at all.


Craig


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
autocomplete was refactored in Gecko 51 (2.48) and then again in 52 (2.49). Including 
changing some defaults when it comes to non-secure sites. Was not fun to play 
catchup. There might still linger other problems.


FRG

cmcadams wrote:
Bingo, that fixed my modem screens login problem. But...SM was happily enough 
filling most forms even with signon.autofillForms.http set to false. And there were 
never problems with 1.48 with the (presumed) same about:config settings. I'll 
confess I don't get it.


Craig


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Not sure if this already applies to 2.49.1.

Set signon.autofillForms.http to true and see what goes.

But I think FB should be https or?

FRG


David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/13/2017 4:32 PM, Hawker wrote:

As the subject says, I just installed 2.49.1. In Facebook it still auto
completes the user name but not password. After entering it still does
not do it the next time.
On some other sites it neither auto enters the user name or password.
How can I put it back like it was?



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.1

I have not seen this problem with saved logins.  There are some sites,
however, that construct their login forms in a manner that defeats the
saving of passwords and even defeats the use of existing saved
passwords.  That is a problem with the site and not with SeaMonkey.





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Re: 2.49.1 no longer auto completes user name or password

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Had recently seen this with a friends Firefox. Was caused by light profile 
corruption and an incompatible add-on.


Please check the Error console if you see any errors during startup or when 
opening the webpage where the passwords are not working.


Did you use a beta or alpha version higher than 2.49 before with your current 
profile?


FRG

Hawker wrote:

hmm.
I wonder what else might need to be changed?
That fix didn't help me. Autocomplete of passwords is not working on any site 
I log into, Facebook, Google, AirB, my bank, other social networks, shopping 
places, etc.  It is a PITA for sure.

Might have something to do with my clearing cookies on close?

It all worked fine in 2.48

On 11/14/2017 8:05 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
autocomplete was refactored in Gecko 51 (2.48) and then again in 52 (2.49). 
Including changing some defaults when it comes to non-secure sites. Was not 
fun to play catchup. There might still linger other problems.


FRG

cmcadams wrote:
Bingo, that fixed my modem screens login problem. But...SM was happily 
enough filling most forms even with signon.autofillForms.http set to false. 
And there were never problems with 1.48 with the (presumed) same 
about:config settings. I'll confess I don't get it.


Craig


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Not sure if this already applies to 2.49.1.

Set signon.autofillForms.http to true and see what goes.

But I think FB should be https or?

FRG


David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/13/2017 4:32 PM, Hawker wrote:

As the subject says, I just installed 2.49.1. In Facebook it still auto
completes the user name but not password. After entering it still does
not do it the next time.
On some other sites it neither auto enters the user name or password.
How can I put it back like it was?



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.1

I have not seen this problem with saved logins.  There are some sites,
however, that construct their login forms in a manner that defeats the
saving of passwords and even defeats the use of existing saved
passwords.  That is a problem with the site and not with SeaMonkey.






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Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro

[Hawker]

David - are others having this issue as well?
Sounds like for the OP and myself (I am on Win7 not Win10) The built in 
password manager broke on the 2.49 update.
I can go to the password manager and they are all still there, but the 
auto complete is broken.


Does the OP also find the passwords are still in the manage stored 
passwords interface just not auto completing?


On 11/11/2017 12:38 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:


I use the Password Manager that is inherent in SeaMonkey. Some of
the third-party applications store the user's passwords in the cloud,
which I feel is quite risky. Others, I am just not sure of their
integrity and security. Since I have to trust SeaMonkey to handle
logins with both security and integrity, I must then trust SeaMonkey
to store my passwords.


Doesn't really address the OP's question. He's concerned by several 
posts we've seen here about SM forgetting passwords after recent 
upgrades. I, too, would be greatly inconvenienced if SM forgot all those 
nuisance logins that I entrust to it.



As much as I trust SeaMonkey, I still use a lengthy pass-phrase (not
merely a password) as my master password. I also periodically
change the individual passwords for the Web sites of my financial
accounts and certain other critical Web sites.


As a policy, I don't save logins and passwords for financial 
institutions in SM or anywhere else my computer. However, in a separate 
file with a nonobvious name and location, I do save fragments or clues 
to those logins and passwords along with a slew of other unrelated data.


So for a simple example (this isn't a real case), for one of my banks I 
may save the fragment "Yankees," which reminds me to add the fragment 
"rule!!" when I enter it in the website. For another example (again, not 
a real case), I may save "hIOdnV7QT9A_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (I grabbed this just 
now from your message id) and remember that the login is "hIOdnV7QT9A" 
(the first part) and the password is "_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (the second part). 
Nothing in the file mentions the institutions or their websites, so it's 
not obvious to anyone else which parts of the mass of data go with what. 
And since what is there is incomplete (the rest being saved in wetware), 
cracking it won't help without the other part.


There are many ways of saving useful reminders (not complete logins or 
passwords) without assuming unreasonable risks.






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Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro

[WaltS48]

On 11/13/17 4:31 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:

bo1953 wrote:

Hello all, I have the above on my desktop and lt, the embedded password manager 
loses PW's at most
upgrades of SM.

I wish to find out what others use for PWM's that are compatible with SM or is 
it I need to look
for one which will work with W10 Pro instead?


I have what is included with SM, but I mostly use Saved Password Editor.

I never loose passwords, or anything else, during an upgrade.  But then I never 
do an upgrade.  I
copy the new version to a new tree, have it share all the previous data, and if 
at some point I
decide I like the new better, I delete the older.

Ray


I use Quick Passwords but it may not work anymore after the major changes that 
are coming to SM.
Does anyone know if Quick Passwords will continue to work in SM in the future.



What major changes?

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Re: 2.49.1 no longer auto completes user name or password

[Hawker]

hmm.
I wonder what else might need to be changed?
That fix didn't help me. Autocomplete of passwords is not working on any 
site I log into, Facebook, Google, AirB, my bank, other social 
networks, shopping places, etc.  It is a PITA for sure.

Might have something to do with my clearing cookies on close?

It all worked fine in 2.48

On 11/14/2017 8:05 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
autocomplete was refactored in Gecko 51 (2.48) and then again in 52 
(2.49). Including changing some defaults when it comes to non-secure 
sites. Was not fun to play catchup. There might still linger other 
problems.


FRG

cmcadams wrote:
Bingo, that fixed my modem screens login problem. But...SM was happily 
enough filling most forms even with signon.autofillForms.http set to 
false. And there were never problems with 1.48 with the (presumed) 
same about:config settings. I'll confess I don't get it.


Craig


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Not sure if this already applies to 2.49.1.

Set signon.autofillForms.http to true and see what goes.

But I think FB should be https or?

FRG


David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/13/2017 4:32 PM, Hawker wrote:
As the subject says, I just installed 2.49.1. In Facebook it still 
auto

completes the user name but not password. After entering it still does
not do it the next time.
On some other sites it neither auto enters the user name or password.
How can I put it back like it was?



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.1

I have not seen this problem with saved logins.  There are some sites,
however, that construct their login forms in a manner that defeats the
saving of passwords and even defeats the use of existing saved
passwords.  That is a problem with the site and not with SeaMonkey.





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Re: AOL Sending (Again) Challenges SM 2.46 Win 10 Pro

[GérardJan]

bo1953 wrote:

Hello all,

Back with similar challenge as per my earlier post about AOL mail...

I now receive the following message:

The message could not be sent because the connection to Outgoing server (SMTP)
smtp.aol.com was lost in the middle of the transaction. Try again.



I do believe my outgoing server settings are correct (or are they):

Server Name: smtp.aol.com
Port: 587
User Name: bo1953 @ V. net
Authentication Method: Normal password
Connection Security: SSL/TLS


Connection Security should be: STARTTLS



Thoughts, suggestions, input - please.

TIA - bo1953


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Re: 2.49.1 no longer auto completes user name or password

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

autocomplete was refactored in Gecko 51 (2.48) and then again in 52 (2.49). 
Including changing some defaults when it comes to non-secure sites. Was not 
fun to play catchup. There might still linger other problems.


FRG

cmcadams wrote:
Bingo, that fixed my modem screens login problem. But...SM was happily enough 
filling most forms even with signon.autofillForms.http set to false. And there 
were never problems with 1.48 with the (presumed) same about:config settings. 
I'll confess I don't get it.


Craig


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Not sure if this already applies to 2.49.1.

Set signon.autofillForms.http to true and see what goes.

But I think FB should be https or?

FRG


David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/13/2017 4:32 PM, Hawker wrote:

As the subject says, I just installed 2.49.1. In Facebook it still auto
completes the user name but not password. After entering it still does
not do it the next time.
On some other sites it neither auto enters the user name or password.
How can I put it back like it was?



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.1

I have not seen this problem with saved logins.  There are some sites,
however, that construct their login forms in a manner that defeats the
saving of passwords and even defeats the use of existing saved
passwords.  That is a problem with the site and not with SeaMonkey.




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Re: 2.49.1 no longer auto completes user name or password

[cmcadams]

Bingo, that fixed my modem screens login problem. But...SM was happily enough filling 
most forms even with signon.autofillForms.http set to false. And there were never 
problems with 1.48 with the (presumed) same about:config settings. I'll confess I 
don't get it.


Craig


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Not sure if this already applies to 2.49.1.

Set signon.autofillForms.http to true and see what goes.

But I think FB should be https or?

FRG


David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/13/2017 4:32 PM, Hawker wrote:

As the subject says, I just installed 2.49.1. In Facebook it still auto
completes the user name but not password. After entering it still does
not do it the next time.
On some other sites it neither auto enters the user name or password.
How can I put it back like it was?



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.1

I have not seen this problem with saved logins.  There are some sites,
however, that construct their login forms in a manner that defeats the
saving of passwords and even defeats the use of existing saved
passwords.  That is a problem with the site and not with SeaMonkey.



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Re: 2.49.1 - Google Calendar

[Daniel]

On 14/11/2017 8:21 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Good news with 2.49.1 seems to fix the issue with authentication with 
Google Calendar and the ReminderFox extension! I have been reluctance 
to upgrade from 2.46 because with 2.48 ReminderFox could not sync with 
Google and IMO there is no substitute extension that works as well as 
ReminderFox.



Damn! Spoke too soon. Same error as 2.48. I guess I am going back to 2.46.

Jonathan, in SM 2.49.1 and/or 2.48, have you checked your Error Console 
(Tools->Web Development->Error Console) to see if there is anything 
there which might help the Devs out??


Clear the Console screen then do stuff until the error screen pops up.

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


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Re: 2.49.1 no longer auto completes user name or password

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Not sure if this already applies to 2.49.1.

Set signon.autofillForms.http to true and see what goes.

But I think FB should be https or?

FRG


David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/13/2017 4:32 PM, Hawker wrote:

As the subject says, I just installed 2.49.1. In Facebook it still auto
completes the user name but not password. After entering it still does
not do it the next time.
On some other sites it neither auto enters the user name or password.
How can I put it back like it was?



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.1

I have not seen this problem with saved logins.  There are some sites,
however, that construct their login forms in a manner that defeats the
saving of passwords and even defeats the use of existing saved
passwords.  That is a problem with the site and not with SeaMonkey.


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