Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?

2020-06-06 Thread Frog

On 6/6/2020 5:46 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/6/20 1:25 PM, Frog wrote:

On 6/5/2020 4:19 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/5/20 1:09 PM, Frog wrote:

On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote:

Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder?

Frog




I always thought that email messages went into that accounts Sent 
folder and not the Local Folders > Sent folder.


The Sent folder in Local Folders is where newsgroup messages I send 
get placed.


That's the way my SeaMonkey works anyway.

The Sent folder in Local Folders is a computer folder.

You need to configure the email accounts "Copies & Folders" settings 
to "Automatically place a copy in: "Sent" Folder on: Local Folders.


I always place the copy in the accounts Sent folder. It is the 
default location.


Thanks for your response to my message...very much appreciated.

I was up until after 1AM trying to track down the information you 
referred to in your message.  I did find the Local Folder that is 
located in my Profile.  Here is what it presently looks like:


This PC  > Data (E) > SeaMonkeyProfile > Mail > incoming.verizon.net

Name    Date modified    Type    Size

Trash.msf    6/5/2020 3:23 PM    MSF File  279 KB
Trash    6/5/2020 3:20 PM    File  24,174 KB
Templates.msf    6/1/2020 7:27 PM    MSF File  2 KB
Templates    9/14/2006 9:37 PM    File  0 KB
Sent.mst    6/5/2020 5:11 PM    MSF File  3 KB
Sent    9/14/2006 9:37 PM    File  0 KB
popstate.dat    6/5/2020 2:31 PM    DAT File  1 KB
msgfilterRules.dat  7/18/2010 6:16 PM    DAT File  1 KB
Junk.msf    3/28/2007 10:30 AM    MSF File  2 KB
Inbox.msf    6/5/2020 6:34 P.M    MSF File  357 KB
Inbox – Shortcut.lnk.mst  6/5/2020 11:41 AM    MSF File  54 KB
Inbox – Shortcut   6/9/2012 1:21 AM    Shortcut  1 KB
Inbox    6/5/2020 3:32 PM    File  33,813
Drafts.msf    6/1/2020 8:52 PM    MSF File  3 KB
Drafts    9/14/2006 9:37 PM    File  0 KB

It appears to me that everything is going into this display except 
Sent messages.  Thus, I continued my Profile search made...having a 
look at the Copies & Folder settings...here is what I found.


Copies & Folders
When sending messages:
Checked - automatically place a copy in
 Dot    -  "Sent" Folder on    Local Folders
 No Dot  - Other Folder    Not Selected
 Not Checked - Place replies in the folder of the message being
   replied to
 Not Checked - Cc these email addresses Blank
 Not Checked - Bcc these email addressses   Blank

Message Archives
Checked - Keep Messages archived in:    Active options...
 Dot - "Archives" Folder on    Local Folders
 No Dot   -  Other  Folder:    Blank

Drafts and Templates
Keep draft messages in
 Dot    "Drafts" Folder on:    Blank
 No Dot  Other Folder    Blank

Keep Message Templates in:
 Dot  "Templates" folder on:    Blank
 No Dot  other Folder    Blank

Not Checked Show confirmation dialog when messages are saved


I hope the above information displays properly.  I do not see what 
changes I have to make in order to get my sent messaged headed for my 
my profile.


Help

Frog









Is this an email account?

Change the account settings to:

Copies & Folders
  When sending messages:
Checked - automatically place a copy in
   Dot    -  "Sent" Folder on  "the account and forget about 
Local folders"




Walt448

You made an old man very happy today.  I did as you suggested, and it 
worked perfectly.


Thank you very much for finding the solution for my problem.

Frog
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Re: How Does One Move From X86 Win7/32 bit SM To X64 Win10/64 bit SM And Integrate Profile/Bookmark/Mail Files?

2020-06-06 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl



Henrik37 wrote:

Henrik37 wrote:
I currently am running 32 bit SM 2.49.5 on a 64 bit PC under X86 Win7 Home.  
I am about to convert to X64 Win10-Pro and already have a new X64 Win10-Pro 
COA and key.  All of the existing 32 bit files are saved to an external hard 
drive.


I want to convert to 64 bit SM 2.52.2 which I understand can download from 
the SM site as I understand it.  How can I integrate my existing saved 32 
bit e-mail message and bookmark files to this new setup?  I know nothing 
about any file structure differences between 32 bit and 64 bit 
installations.  I do know how to use both the DOS and Windows copy and paste 
commands having been around since the MS-DOS days.


Simply copy the saved message and bookmark files to their respective 
positions in a newly installed 64 bit SM 2.52.2 installation prior to going 
live with the new 64 bit SM installation?  Could it be that easy?


What are the exact file names and in which folders (AKA: 
directories/sub-directories) in which these files are located?


What about my profile?  Can I just copy the saved 32 bit SM 2.49.5 profile 
and paste that into a new 64 bit SM 2.52 installation?


Advice, guidance, and instructions, even if complicated, will be most 
appreciated.


My apologies; I should have included the existing 32 bit SM 2.49.5 address 
book files along with the saved e-mails and bookmarks that I want to 
transfer/integrate to my new x64 Win10-pro/64 bit SM 2.52.2 set-up.



Zip up the entire AppData\Roaming\mozilla folder on your Windows 7 pc when 
SeaMonkey is closed. Unpack it on you new Windows 10 PC and just install the 
2.53.2 Windows x64 version. Should pick up your old profile and upgrade it. 
Make sure you remove a master password if one exists before you zip it up.


Windows 10 makes it harder to set an external Browser as default but it is 
still possible in the new Stettings dialogs.


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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

2020-06-06 Thread Paul Bergsagel

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/5/20 8:47 AM, meagain wrote:

Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works

 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an unsupported 
browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube Studio to be 
slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of these instead."


With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop 
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please update 
your browser."
Works for me.  I do not have Firefox compatibility enabled.  Youtube.com 
works and there is no warning message about the browser I am using.


 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an unsupported 
browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube Studio to be 
slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of these instead."


studio.youtube.com does not seem to know about SeaMonkey, but works if 
you click on the button below.


I am using SeaMonkey 2.53.4 beta 1 pre   build by W9Gs.

The issue seems to me is that many web page designers do not know about 
SeaMonkey and reject the browser since it is an unknown browser.  If the 
sniffer would  look for the browser engine (i.e. gecko) instead of the 
browser's name (i.e. SeaMonkey) we would run into fewer compatibility 
issues.






WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have to 
use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?


- meagain


Probably more than users of the current Firefox version would.

However, I had no trouble logging into my Google account, clicking the 
"Skip to Studio" button on the unsupported browser page and creating a 
studio dashboard.


Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 
SeaMonkey/2.53.2 with no extensions.




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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

2020-06-06 Thread EE

meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

 Original Message 

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

Ray_Net wrote on 06-06-20 00:25:

meagain wrote on 05-06-20 23:49:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10
Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest 
version of

one of these instead."

With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please
update your browser."

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest 
version of

one of these instead."

WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have
to use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?

- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62. That
works well for me.



What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) 
it?



about:config then add an entry like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com
user set
string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/68.0

Or better add this line in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.youtube.com", "Mozilla/5.0
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0");


I find a about:config   called
general.useragent.site_specific_overrides;true

but I do not find a file   user.js  -you're over my head.


You have to create it, it is not created by default. Location is in 
your

profile directory. Easiest way to locate is

Help > Troubleshooting Information > Application Basics > Profile 
Folder


click Open Folder button.



okayyy,  thanks for the explicit instructions. Much better way to Not 
shoot myself in the foot!  Will let you know results later.




https://studio.youtube.com/  will not function with  Firefox 
compatibility.





Is this 'user.js' used by  SM(64) and SM(32) ?


Yes, and also with different operating systems like MacOS and Linux.

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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

2020-06-06 Thread EE

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote on 06-06-20 00:25:

meagain wrote on 05-06-20 23:49:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

>> I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10

Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works

 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an 
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause 
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of 
one of these instead."


With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop 
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please update 
your browser."


 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an 
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause 
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of 
one of these instead."


WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have to 
use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?


- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62. That works 
well for me.




What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?


about:config then add an entry like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com
user set
string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/68.0

Or better add this line in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.youtube.com", "Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0");


Is there some reason why the rv version is different from the Firefox 
version (rv:67.0 and Firefox/68.0)?


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Re: How Does One Move From X86 Win7/32 bit SM To X64 Win10/64 bit SM And Integrate Profile/Bookmark/Mail Files?

2020-06-06 Thread Henrik37 via support-seamonkey

Henrik37 wrote:
I currently am running 32 bit SM 2.49.5 on a 64 bit PC under X86 Win7 
Home.  I am about to convert to X64 Win10-Pro and already have a new X64 
Win10-Pro COA and key.  All of the existing 32 bit files are saved to an 
external hard drive.


I want to convert to 64 bit SM 2.52.2 which I understand can download 
from the SM site as I understand it.  How can I integrate my existing 
saved 32 bit e-mail message and bookmark files to this new setup?  I 
know nothing about any file structure differences between 32 bit and 64 
bit installations.  I do know how to use both the DOS and Windows copy 
and paste commands having been around since the MS-DOS days.


Simply copy the saved message and bookmark files to their respective 
positions in a newly installed 64 bit SM 2.52.2 installation prior to 
going live with the new 64 bit SM installation?  Could it be that easy?


What are the exact file names and in which folders (AKA: 
directories/sub-directories) in which these files are located?


What about my profile?  Can I just copy the saved 32 bit SM 2.49.5 
profile and paste that into a new 64 bit SM 2.52 installation?


Advice, guidance, and instructions, even if complicated, will be most 
appreciated.


My apologies; I should have included the existing 32 bit SM 2.49.5 
address book files along with the saved e-mails and bookmarks that I 
want to transfer/integrate to my new x64 Win10-pro/64 bit SM 2.52.2 set-up.

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How Does One Move From X86 Win7/32 bit SM To X64 Win10/64 bit SM And Integrate Profile/Bookmark/Mail Files?

2020-06-06 Thread Henrik37 via support-seamonkey
I currently am running 32 bit SM 2.49.5 on a 64 bit PC under X86 Win7 
Home.  I am about to convert to X64 Win10-Pro and already have a new X64 
Win10-Pro COA and key.  All of the existing 32 bit files are saved to an 
external hard drive.


I want to convert to 64 bit SM 2.52.2 which I understand can download 
from the SM site as I understand it.  How can I integrate my existing 
saved 32 bit e-mail message and bookmark files to this new setup?  I 
know nothing about any file structure differences between 32 bit and 64 
bit installations.  I do know how to use both the DOS and Windows copy 
and paste commands having been around since the MS-DOS days.


Simply copy the saved message and bookmark files to their respective 
positions in a newly installed 64 bit SM 2.52.2 installation prior to 
going live with the new 64 bit SM installation?  Could it be that easy?


What are the exact file names and in which folders (AKA: 
directories/sub-directories) in which these files are located?


What about my profile?  Can I just copy the saved 32 bit SM 2.49.5 
profile and paste that into a new 64 bit SM 2.52 installation?


Advice, guidance, and instructions, even if complicated, will be most 
appreciated.

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Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?

2020-06-06 Thread WaltS48

On 6/6/20 1:25 PM, Frog wrote:

On 6/5/2020 4:19 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/5/20 1:09 PM, Frog wrote:

On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote:

Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder?

Frog




I always thought that email messages went into that accounts Sent 
folder and not the Local Folders > Sent folder.


The Sent folder in Local Folders is where newsgroup messages I send 
get placed.


That's the way my SeaMonkey works anyway.

The Sent folder in Local Folders is a computer folder.

You need to configure the email accounts "Copies & Folders" settings 
to "Automatically place a copy in: "Sent" Folder on: Local Folders.


I always place the copy in the accounts Sent folder. It is the default 
location.


Thanks for your response to my message...very much appreciated.

I was up until after 1AM trying to track down the information you 
referred to in your message.  I did find the Local Folder that is 
located in my Profile.  Here is what it presently looks like:


This PC  > Data (E) > SeaMonkeyProfile > Mail > incoming.verizon.net

Name    Date modified    Type    Size

Trash.msf    6/5/2020 3:23 PM    MSF File  279 KB
Trash    6/5/2020 3:20 PM    File  24,174 KB
Templates.msf    6/1/2020 7:27 PM    MSF File  2 KB
Templates    9/14/2006 9:37 PM    File  0 KB
Sent.mst    6/5/2020 5:11 PM    MSF File  3 KB
Sent    9/14/2006 9:37 PM    File  0 KB
popstate.dat    6/5/2020 2:31 PM    DAT File  1 KB
msgfilterRules.dat  7/18/2010 6:16 PM    DAT File  1 KB
Junk.msf    3/28/2007 10:30 AM    MSF File  2 KB
Inbox.msf    6/5/2020 6:34 P.M    MSF File  357 KB
Inbox – Shortcut.lnk.mst  6/5/2020 11:41 AM    MSF File  54 KB
Inbox – Shortcut   6/9/2012 1:21 AM    Shortcut  1 KB
Inbox    6/5/2020 3:32 PM    File  33,813
Drafts.msf    6/1/2020 8:52 PM    MSF File  3 KB
Drafts    9/14/2006 9:37 PM    File  0 KB

It appears to me that everything is going into this display except Sent 
messages.  Thus, I continued my Profile search made...having a look at 
the Copies & Folder settings...here is what I found.


Copies & Folders
When sending messages:
Checked - automatically place a copy in
 Dot    -  "Sent" Folder on    Local Folders
     No Dot  - Other Folder    Not Selected
 Not Checked - Place replies in the folder of the message being
   replied to
 Not Checked - Cc these email addresses Blank
 Not Checked - Bcc these email addressses   Blank

Message Archives
Checked - Keep Messages archived in:    Active options...
 Dot - "Archives" Folder on    Local Folders
 No Dot   -  Other  Folder:    Blank

Drafts and Templates
Keep draft messages in
 Dot    "Drafts" Folder on:    Blank
 No Dot  Other Folder    Blank

Keep Message Templates in:
 Dot  "Templates" folder on:    Blank
 No Dot  other Folder    Blank

Not Checked Show confirmation dialog when messages are saved


I hope the above information displays properly.  I do not see what 
changes I have to make in order to get my sent messaged headed for my my 
profile.


Help

Frog









Is this an email account?

Change the account settings to:

Copies & Folders
 When sending messages:
Checked - automatically place a copy in
  Dot-  "Sent" Folder on  "the account and forget about 
Local folders"



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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

2020-06-06 Thread Ray_Net

meagain wrote on 06-06-20 20:42:

 Original Message 

 Original Message 

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

Ray_Net wrote on 06-06-20 00:25:

meagain wrote on 05-06-20 23:49:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10
Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest 
version of

one of these instead."

With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please
update your browser."

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest 
version of

one of these instead."

WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have
to use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?

- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62. That
works well for me.



What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and 
use/install) it?



about:config then add an entry like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com
user set
string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/68.0

Or better add this line in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.youtube.com", "Mozilla/5.0
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/68.0");


I find a about:config   called
general.useragent.site_specific_overrides;true

but I do not find a file   user.js  -you're over my head.


You have to create it, it is not created by default. Location is in 
your

profile directory. Easiest way to locate is

Help > Troubleshooting Information > Application Basics > Profile 
Folder


click Open Folder button.



okayyy,  thanks for the explicit instructions. Much better way to 
Not shoot myself in the foot!  Will let you know results later.




https://studio.youtube.com/  will not function with  Firefox 
compatibility.





Is this 'user.js' used by  SM(64) and SM(32) ?

My user.js is here on this directory:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\.default

Example:

C:\Users\tit_p\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default\
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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

2020-06-06 Thread meagain

 Original Message 

 Original Message 

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

Ray_Net wrote on 06-06-20 00:25:

meagain wrote on 05-06-20 23:49:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10
Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of
one of these instead."

With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please
update your browser."

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of
one of these instead."

WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have
to use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?

- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62. That
works well for me.



What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?


about:config then add an entry like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com
user set
string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/68.0

Or better add this line in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.youtube.com", "Mozilla/5.0
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0");


I find a about:config   called
general.useragent.site_specific_overrides;true

but I do not find a file   user.js  -you're over my head.


You have to create it, it is not created by default. Location is in your
profile directory. Easiest way to locate is

Help > Troubleshooting Information > Application Basics > Profile Folder

click Open Folder button.



okayyy,  thanks for the explicit instructions. Much better way to Not 
shoot myself in the foot!  Will let you know results later.




https://studio.youtube.com/  will not function with  Firefox compatibility.




Is this 'user.js' used by  SM(64) and SM(32) ?
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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

2020-06-06 Thread meagain

 Original Message 

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

Ray_Net wrote on 06-06-20 00:25:

meagain wrote on 05-06-20 23:49:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10
Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of
one of these instead."

With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please
update your browser."

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of
one of these instead."

WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have
to use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?

- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62. That
works well for me.



What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?


about:config then add an entry like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com
user set
string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/68.0

Or better add this line in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.youtube.com", "Mozilla/5.0
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0");


I find a about:config   called
general.useragent.site_specific_overrides;true

but I do not find a file   user.js  -you're over my head.


You have to create it, it is not created by default. Location is in your
profile directory. Easiest way to locate is

Help > Troubleshooting Information > Application Basics > Profile Folder

click Open Folder button.



okayyy,  thanks for the explicit instructions. Much better way to Not 
shoot myself in the foot!  Will let you know results later.




https://studio.youtube.com/  will not function with  Firefox compatibility.


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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

2020-06-06 Thread meagain

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

Ray_Net wrote on 06-06-20 00:25:

meagain wrote on 05-06-20 23:49:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10
Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of
one of these instead."

With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please
update your browser."

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of
one of these instead."

WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have
to use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?

- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62. That
works well for me.



What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?


about:config then add an entry like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com
user set
string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/68.0

Or better add this line in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.youtube.com", "Mozilla/5.0
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0");


I find a about:config   called
general.useragent.site_specific_overrides;true

but I do not find a file   user.js  -you're over my head.


You have to create it, it is not created by default. Location is in your
profile directory. Easiest way to locate is

Help > Troubleshooting Information > Application Basics > Profile Folder

click Open Folder button.



okayyy,  thanks for the explicit instructions. Much better way to Not 
shoot myself in the foot!  Will let you know results later.


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Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?

2020-06-06 Thread Frog

On 6/5/2020 2:28 PM, EE wrote:

Frog wrote:

On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote:

Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder?

Frog


I have not given up on making SeaMonkey move a copy of an outgoing 
message to my Sent folder...and I might have found my answer to my 
problem. I took a look at Local Folders to see what clues the Sent 
file might reveal, and this is what I found:


Name    Date modified    Type    Size
Sent    6/4/2020 7:23    File    2,605,188 ...
Sent.mst    6/4/2020 7.23 MSF File    2 KB

I decided that the Sent folder was likely full, so I proceeded to 
rename the two folders (OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf).  I then visited 
the the OLD Sent and OLD Sent.msf Properties in order to make a new 
Sent and a new Sent.msf folders like the original folders. Next, I 
created two new folders in Local Folders (Sent and Sent.mst).  Well, 
all seemed to be going good at this point; so I sent a test message to 
myself to see if a copy was placed in my sent file. I got the 
following window when I attempted to send my test message:


Save Message
Your message was sent, but a copy was not placed in your sent folder 
(Sent) due to network or file access errors.
You can retry or save the message locally to Local Folders/sent Local 
Folders.

 Retry    Save    Don't Save

My thinking was, the system just needs to find the new Sent - Sent.msf 
folders and all would be working normally...thus, I clicked Save in 
the above window.  My next move was paying a visit to Local Files>Sent 
to see my saved message...I could not find my message.


All of the above tells me that something has changed as a result of my 
actions.  I did not receive any "Save Message" window previously, when 
I sent a message.  I also learned that the Sent folder was stuffed 
(likely to its limits) and could not hold another message.  I also am 
not able to find a way of opening the stuffed Sent folder to remove 
the overload that exists.


I did notice that the original folders simply identified the type of 
file as Sent and Sent.msf and the new folder identify is "Sent folder" 
and "Sent.msf folder".  I cannot figure out how to change the new 
folders to look like the old original folders.


Well, there you you have a recap of my actions taken to activate 
storage of my sent messages on my system.  I can delete the new Sent 
and Sent.msf folders and rename the the OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf 
folders to Sent and Sent.msf.


Frog

P.S. I continue to think about the other suggestions made in this 
thread.  Be assured that they are all very much appreciated at this 
time of trying to make my computer work.



Maybe if you had done things the other way around, it would have worked. 
  Instead of renaming the Sent folder, create a new folder called 
Sent-old and transfer the messages from Sent to that.  If you use the 
File button, it is very easy to transfer messages from one folder to 
another.




Thanks for your response.

I have deleted the new Sent and Sent.msg folders.  I then renamed the 
OLD_Sent folder to Sent and the OLD_Sent.msg folder to Sent.msg.  I am 
now back to where I was originally.  I still cannot make outgoing 
messages flow into the Sent folder.


Frog
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Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?

2020-06-06 Thread Frog

On 6/5/2020 4:19 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/5/20 1:09 PM, Frog wrote:

On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote:

Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder?

Frog




I always thought that email messages went into that accounts Sent folder 
and not the Local Folders > Sent folder.


The Sent folder in Local Folders is where newsgroup messages I send get 
placed.


That's the way my SeaMonkey works anyway.

The Sent folder in Local Folders is a computer folder.

You need to configure the email accounts "Copies & Folders" settings to 
"Automatically place a copy in: "Sent" Folder on: Local Folders.


I always place the copy in the accounts Sent folder. It is the default 
location.


Thanks for your response to my message...very much appreciated.

I was up until after 1AM trying to track down the information you 
referred to in your message.  I did find the Local Folder that is 
located in my Profile.  Here is what it presently looks like:


This PC  > Data (E) > SeaMonkeyProfile > Mail > incoming.verizon.net

NameDate modified   Type
Size

Trash.msf   6/5/2020 3:23 PMMSF File  279 KB
Trash   6/5/2020 3:20 PMFile  24,174 KB
Templates.msf   6/1/2020 7:27 PMMSF File  2 KB
Templates   9/14/2006 9:37 PM   File  0 KB
Sent.mst6/5/2020 5:11 PMMSF File  3 KB
Sent9/14/2006 9:37 PM   File  0 KB
popstate.dat6/5/2020 2:31 PMDAT File  1 KB
msgfilterRules.dat7/18/2010 6:16 PM DAT File  1 KB  
Junk.msf3/28/2007 10:30 AM  MSF File  2 KB
Inbox.msf   6/5/2020 6:34 P.M   MSF File  357 KB
Inbox – Shortcut.lnk.mst  6/5/2020 11:41 AM MSF File  54 KB
Inbox – Shortcut  6/9/2012 1:21 AM  Shortcut  1 KB
Inbox   6/5/2020 3:32 PMFile  33,813
Drafts.msf  6/1/2020 8:52 PMMSF File  3 KB
Drafts  9/14/2006 9:37 PM   File  0 KB

It appears to me that everything is going into this display except Sent 
messages.  Thus, I continued my Profile search made...having a look at 
the Copies & Folder settings...here is what I found.


Copies & Folders
When sending messages:
Checked - automatically place a copy in
Dot-  "Sent" Folder onLocal Folders
No Dot  - Other Folder  Not Selected
Not Checked - Place replies in the folder of the message being
  replied to
Not Checked - Cc these email addresses Blank
Not Checked - Bcc these email addressses   Blank

Message Archives
Checked - Keep Messages archived in:Active options...
Dot - "Archives" Folder onLocal Folders
No Dot -  Other  Folder:Blank

Drafts and Templates
Keep draft messages in
Dot   "Drafts" Folder on: Blank
No DotOther Folder  Blank

Keep Message Templates in:
Dot   "Templates" folder on:  Blank
No Dotother Folder  Blank

Not Checked Show confirmation dialog when messages are saved


I hope the above information displays properly.  I do not see what 
changes I have to make in order to get my sent messaged headed for my my 
profile.


Help

Frog







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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

2020-06-06 Thread WaltS48

On 6/6/20 10:18 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

Ray_Net wrote on 06-06-20 00:25:

meagain wrote on 05-06-20 23:49:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10
Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of
one of these instead."

With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please
update your browser."

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of
one of these instead."

WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have
to use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?

- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62. That
works well for me.



What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?


about:config then add an entry like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com
user set
string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/68.0

Or better add this line in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.youtube.com", "Mozilla/5.0
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0");


I find a about:config   called
general.useragent.site_specific_overrides;true

but I do not find a file   user.js  -you're over my head.


You have to create it, it is not created by default. Location is in your
profile directory. Easiest way to locate is

Help > Troubleshooting Information > Application Basics > Profile Folder

click Open Folder button.


Still don't see why anyone has to do that.

From my previous reply:

"I had no trouble logging into my Google account, clicking the "Skip to 
Studio" button on the unsupported browser page and creating a studio 
dashboard.


Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 
SeaMonkey/2.53.2 with no extensions."



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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

2020-06-06 Thread Jonathan N. Little
meagain wrote:
>  Original Message 
>> Ray_Net wrote on 06-06-20 00:25:
>>> meagain wrote on 05-06-20 23:49:
  Original Message 
> meagain wrote:
 >> I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10
>> Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
>> Platform: Windows x86
>> Language: English (US)
>>
>> With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
>>  www.youtube.com    = Works
>>
>>  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
>> unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
>> YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of
>> one of these instead."
>>
>> With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
>>  www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop
>> supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please
>> update your browser."
>>
>>  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
>> unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
>> YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of
>> one of these instead."
>>
>> WHY?
>>
>> Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have
>> to use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?
>>
>> - meagain
>
> I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62. That
> works well for me.
>

 What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?

>>> about:config then add an entry like this:
>>> general.useragent.override.youtube.com
>>> user set
>>> string
>>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101
>>> Firefox/68.0
>> Or better add this line in user.js
>> user_pref("general.useragent.override.youtube.com", "Mozilla/5.0
>> (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0");
> 
> I find a about:config   called
> general.useragent.site_specific_overrides;true
> 
> but I do not find a file   user.js  -you're over my head.

You have to create it, it is not created by default. Location is in your
profile directory. Easiest way to locate is

Help > Troubleshooting Information > Application Basics > Profile Folder

click Open Folder button.

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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

2020-06-06 Thread meagain

 Original Message 

Ray_Net wrote on 06-06-20 00:25:

meagain wrote on 05-06-20 23:49:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

>> I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10

Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works

 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an 
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause 
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of 
one of these instead."


With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop 
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please update 
your browser."


 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an 
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause 
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of 
one of these instead."


WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have to 
use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?


- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62. That works 
well for me.




What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?


about:config then add an entry like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com
user set
string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/68.0

Or better add this line in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.youtube.com", "Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0");


I find a about:config   called 
general.useragent.site_specific_overrides;true


but I do not find a file   user.js  -you're over my head.
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