Re: Lighting in Seamonkey 2.0 RC1

2009-10-17 Thread Jim S
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:54:38 -0700, NoOp wrote:

 On 10/16/2009 04:25 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
 Jim S wrote:
 Just done that.
 It installs, but still says incompatible with SM2
 
 Yes, that's known. Please use a nightly from today (will come up soon) 
 or later.
 
 Robert Kaiser
 
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-1.9.1/linux-xpi/
   lightning.xpi   16-Oct-2009 05:24   1.1M
 
 Works in both (linux) 2.0pre (current nightly) and 2.0 (rc1). I reset
 'extensions.checkCompatibility' to 'true' on both before tesing.
 
 Thanks

The window one works ok too
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-1.9.1/win32-xpi/
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SeaMonkey 2.0 RC2 pre-testing - help wanted!

2009-10-17 Thread Robert Kaiser

Hi everyone,

The next step is done and now we have SeaMonkey 2.0 RC2 builds 
available, with updates being live on the betatest channel. We hope this 
will be the final RC, and would be happy about another fast round of 
testing them before we push the builds out to a wider range of people on 
the beta channel.


All builds are available in 20 languages including US English, the 
packages are available in the win32, mac, and win32 subdirectories of 
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.0rc2-candidates/build2/


Please use the builds for any usage patterns you can think of, possibly 
also doing a https://litmus.mozilla.org/run_tests.cgi?test_run_id=7 
smoketest run on them. I know that Litmus run isn't perfect, but it's 
the best we have right now.


Localizers, please test the builds in your locale so we know they work 
well and are release-worthy.


Our current plan is to replace RC1 with RC2 on the website, etc and do 
another low-profile release for this RC on Monday or Tuesday, starting 
the hopefully final testing stretch for the large 2.0 release.
If testing turns out alright and no show-stoppers are found, We're 
prepared to go public a week later - which roughly coincides with the 
plans for Firefox 3.5.4 release, currently scheduled for October 27.


Robert Kaiser
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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-17 Thread Robert Kaiser

Russell wrote:

And there are many users like myself who simply do NOT like the look and feel of
Firefox. Perhaps it's the interests of the Firefox developers that's behind this
move?


Only if you don't believe that the SeaMonkey team can have its own 
agenda and think for itself. You might not share that belief, though.



Not permitting Seamonkey to work without hijacking the system email will
certainly reduce its user base (I would leave as will many others I know) and
drive Seamonkey even more quickly into oblivion. That would be a shame.


So you seem to convince it will be driven into oblivion some time 
anyhow. I for one do not want to support that mindset.


That said, feel free to do the work and provide patches for making the 
option you want available in the new toolkit-based environment we have 
uplifted SeaMonkey to because we wanted to ensure survival of the suite 
concept more than preserving every single option it might have had in 
some distant past.


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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-17 Thread Lucas Levrel
Le 17 octobre 2009, Robert Kaiser a écrit :
 That said, feel free to do the work and provide patches for making the option
 you want available in the new toolkit-based environment we have uplifted
 SeaMonkey to because we wanted to ensure survival of the suite concept more
 than preserving every single option it might have had in some distant past.

Although I understand you may have been shocked by Russell saying 
Seamonkey is going into oblivion, your last phrase sounds disdainful : 
Seamonkey does offer in its last stable version the option to install only 
parts of it.

Also, have you changed your mind since you stated the following?

Le 14 octobre 2009, Robert Kaiser a écrit :
 We should make it easy to use other news readers from all I know, as for 
 the mail things, I need to defer to people knowing more about that than 
 I do.

---

This said, I think installing the whole SM2 will be fine for everyone if 
mailto: links still can be directed to an external application. Disk space 
is not much of a concern on recent platforms.


Best regards.
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Re: How to block e-mail

2009-10-17 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

John Doue wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:



ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

How do I block e-mail from a certain e-mail address? I have seamonkey 
and pop mail sbcglobal.net.


Two basic approaches:

1) If your ISP offers this option, set up a filter on the server so 
the messages get trashed before you ever download them. This may be 
relevant: http://promo.sbcglobal.net/sbcyahoodsl/faq.html#emailQ10


2) Set up a filter on your local machine that moves the targeted 
messages to trash whenever you download them. Ideally, it also marks 
them as read. Click the account name in the folder list and choose 
Manage message filters.


The advantage of the first option is efficiency/elegance -- you don't 
waste time and resources downloading and then trashing them, and you 
can't possibly be annoyed by something you never see. The disadvantage 
is that it's permanent and unrecoverable (unless we're talking about a 
system that doesn't purge messages from trash until they've been there 
for a week or so).


The advantage of the second option is that you can periodically scan 
through your trash to make sure you're not filtering legitimate 
messages; as above, this relies on your trash-emptying settings. For 
example, my machine is set to empty trash on exit, so if I want the 
opportunity to review, I have to either do so before exiting or filter 
to junk, where messages survive for a week. The disadvantage of the 
second option, conversely, is that you spend time and resources 
downloading junk, and you might be tempted to view it and aggravate 
yourself.


I agree with this analysis but I would suggest a third approach as an 
alternative to the first Paul suggests since I believe (might be wrong 
though) most ISPs limit the filtering possibility to Web mail.


Various ISPs offer the user various capabilities; since I'm not an 
sbcglobal subscriber I can only speculate.


In my case, my company's web host (Hostway) affords the ability to view 
email through a webmail interface or to download it by the conventional 
POP method. I can even do both with a particular message -- view it 
through the webmail interface, leave it in the Inbox, and then download 
it later through POP mail.


They also offer a customizable filtering system called CleanMail Plus, 
whereby I can white- or blacklist potential senders, overriding their 
general spam-filtering system. And I can set the aggressiveness of the 
spam-filtering system as well.


To get my mail, I personally subscribe to a mail service (spamcop) which 
provides a lot of possibilities. Among them, the possibility to block 
certain addresses. The corresponding emails (along with emails 
considered as spam by spamcop) are stored on a specific directory of the 
server for a certain period of time (not sure, but 30 days I believe) 
with the possibility to release them. The user just needs to visit 
spamcop site to review and decide on the necessary action.


In spamcop settings, it is possible to stipulate a periodic reporting of 
such held mail which helps the user review held mail without having to 
login.


Of course, I have no interest in advertizing spamcop, I am just a very 
satisfied user. And of course also, there is a cost for this service 
(around $30.00 IIRC), well worth it in my opinion.


And the end of the day, this approach combines the advantages of the two 
offered by Paul. But unless you are willing to take the risk of missing 
some emails which could be important, some time has to be dedicated, one 
way or the other, to the reviewing emails ...


I generally try to limit my use of filtering on the server because of 
its unrecoverability. With a broadband connection, it's little skin off 
my nose to download and filter to junk, and I do periodically scan the 
subject/author lines in the junk folder to make sure I'm not filtering 
legitimate messages. I have a dozen or so addresses blacklisted on the 
server, but those people have gone above and beyond the call of doody 
and earned this treatment.


Our ISP's spam filter does a pretty good job; with SM's Junk folder set 
to purge messages when they reach an age of seven days, it normally has 
30-40 messages awaiting deletion, with an overall traffic level of 
300-400 incoming messages per business day and 100 per day on weekends.


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SM 2.0 question

2009-10-17 Thread Tony
Is there a utility to export your passwords to a HTML or text file 
similar to the one for Firefox 3.0? I can export my passwords from SM 
1.1.18 with it but it does not like SM 2.0RC1/2. Now I understand about 
the signons.sql file. I'd like to be able to export my passwords and 
print them out for safe keeping or at least save it as a text file on a 
thumb drive.


thanks in advance and I look forward to the final release of 2.0. So far 
I haven't had any problems with the release candidates.

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Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-17 Thread D. K. Kraft

I posted this message originally in the SM 2.0 RC1 introduction thread, but it
appears to have gone unnoticed, so reposting as a new thread and crossposting to
mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey for a little wider notice.  If the latter is
inappropriate, please feel free to alter the followup-to to only this support
group.

Running 2.0RC1 on Win XP Pro SP3 with an import of my SM 1.1.18 profile, and
seeing the following for which I'd appreciate any info, especially if there's a
fix in the works for the more annoying behavior:

A) Password manager multiple requests -- I currently use a Master Password with
SM 1.1.18, set for If it has not been used for [10] minutes or longer, and it
works as expected, with necessary requests being made within those parameters
for needed passwords on a web page or for mail access.  SM 2.0RC1 makes what
appear to be random requests that have nothing to do with actually supplying a
password, including a request at start-up of only the browser, and it doesn't
appear to honor the above timeout settings.  This is becoming *very* annoying,
and from a scan of Bugzilla, there still is no fix in the works.  What up w'
dat, peeps?

B) Offline and Disk Space setting -- although SM 2.0RC1 honors the setting to
Ask me for online state at startup, it a) brings up a second dialog box after
clicking on either option, and has to be clicked on again to start the program
in either mode; and b) the dialog box is accompanied by the Default Beep sound
assigned by Win XP.  Regarding the latter, 1.1.18 doesn't do this, so I'm
wondering what the intrinsic change was with the shift to Toolkit that makes
this now the program behavior.  While certainly not critical, it does become a
bit annoying.  The former behavior (a) is definitely a bug, but I have not been
able to drill down in Bugzilla to find a listing (to be honest, it is VERY
DIFFICULT to find specific bugs these days through the system, and it is not all
intuitive, IMHO).

C) Mail and News default view -- in 1.1.18, mail/news starts up opened to my
default mail account Inbox folder in the left pane, showing the folder contents
in right pane.  2.0RC1 opens up to the main e-mail title in the left pane, thus
showing the general settings for e-mail and specific options for the account
(Email, Accounts, Advanced Features).  While the behavior of 2.0RC1 may be
beneficial if a user has multiple e-mail accounts, the behavior of 1.1.18 is
preferable if a user only has one account and one Inbox.  Is there a means to
modify 2.0RC1's behavior to be like 1.1.18's, or is this a reflection of the
shift to Toolkit and just something I'll have to put up with?  (And explain to
my elderly parents when I shift them over to 2.0, because anything that changes
on the computer gives them license to get bothered...)

As stated above, further info greatly appreciated on the described behavior, and
fix info, especially for (A), appreciated even more.

I used to want my MTV.  Now I just want all my usual Add-Ons for SM 2.0 --
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Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-17 Thread D. K. Kraft

I posted this message originally in the SM 2.0 RC1 introduction thread, but it
appears to have gone unnoticed, so reposting as a new thread and crossposting to
mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey for a little wider notice.  If the latter is
inappropriate, please feel free to alter the followup-to to only this support
group.

Running 2.0RC1 on Win XP Pro SP3 with an import of my SM 1.1.18 profile, and
seeing the following for which I'd appreciate any info, especially if there's a
fix in the works for the more annoying behavior:

A) Password manager multiple requests -- I currently use a Master Password with
SM 1.1.18, set for If it has not been used for [10] minutes or longer, and it
works as expected, with necessary requests being made within those parameters
for needed passwords on a web page or for mail access.  SM 2.0RC1 makes what
appear to be random requests that have nothing to do with actually supplying a
password, including a request at start-up of only the browser, and it doesn't
appear to honor the above timeout settings.  This is becoming *very* annoying,
and from a scan of Bugzilla, there still is no fix in the works.  What up w'
dat, peeps?

B) Offline and Disk Space setting -- although SM 2.0RC1 honors the setting to
Ask me for online state at startup, it a) brings up a second dialog box after
clicking on either option, and has to be clicked on again to start the program
in either mode; and b) the dialog box is accompanied by the Default Beep sound
assigned by Win XP.  Regarding the latter, 1.1.18 doesn't do this, so I'm
wondering what the intrinsic change was with the shift to Toolkit that makes
this now the program behavior.  While certainly not critical, it does become a
bit annoying.  The former behavior (a) is definitely a bug, but I have not been
able to drill down in Bugzilla to find a listing (to be honest, it is VERY
DIFFICULT to find specific bugs these days through the system, and it is not all
intuitive, IMHO).

C) Mail and News default view -- in 1.1.18, mail/news starts up opened to my
default mail account Inbox folder in the left pane, showing the folder contents
in right pane.  2.0RC1 opens up to the main e-mail title in the left pane, thus
showing the general settings for e-mail and specific options for the account
(Email, Accounts, Advanced Features).  While the behavior of 2.0RC1 may be
beneficial if a user has multiple e-mail accounts, the behavior of 1.1.18 is
preferable if a user only has one account and one Inbox.  Is there a means to
modify 2.0RC1's behavior to be like 1.1.18's, or is this a reflection of the
shift to Toolkit and just something I'll have to put up with?  (And explain to
my elderly parents when I shift them over to 2.0, because anything that changes
on the computer gives them license to get bothered...)

As stated above, further info greatly appreciated on the described behavior, and
fix info, especially for (A), appreciated even more.

I used to want my MTV.  Now I just want all my usual Add-Ons for SM 2.0 --
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Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-17 Thread moznews...hb
D. K. Kraft schrieb:
 
 A) Password manager multiple requests -- I currently use a Master Password
 with SM 1.1.18, set for If it has not been used for [10] minutes or
 longer, and it works as expected, with necessary requests being made within
 those parameters for needed passwords on a web page or for mail access.  SM
 2.0RC1 makes what appear to be random requests that have nothing to do with
 actually supplying a password, including a request at start-up of only the
 browser, and it doesn't appear to honor the above timeout settings.  This is
 becoming *very* annoying, and from a scan of Bugzilla, there still is no fix
 in the works.  What up w' dat, peeps?

Do you have Mail Biff notification activated?
Preference Only check for new mail after opening MailNewsgroups set?

 C) Mail and News default view -- in 1.1.18, mail/news starts up opened to my 
 default mail account Inbox folder in the left pane, showing the folder 
 contents in right pane.  2.0RC1 opens up to the main e-mail title in the
 left pane, thus showing the general settings for e-mail and specific options
 for the account (Email, Accounts, Advanced Features).  While the behavior of
 2.0RC1 may be beneficial if a user has multiple e-mail accounts, the behavior
 of 1.1.18 is preferable if a user only has one account and one Inbox.  Is
 there a means to modify 2.0RC1's behavior to be like 1.1.18's, or is this a
 reflection of the shift to Toolkit and just something I'll have to put up
 with?  

Strg+2 shows the Inbox of the default mail account here.
Preference Remember the last selected message unset?
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Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-17 Thread D. K. Kraft

With patience akin to a cat's, moznews.@calen.de, on 10/17/2009 10:56 AM 
typed:

D. K. Kraft schrieb:

A) Password manager multiple requests -- I currently use a Master Password
with SM 1.1.18, set for If it has not been used for [10] minutes or
longer, and it works as expected, with necessary requests being made within
those parameters for needed passwords on a web page or for mail access.  SM
2.0RC1 makes what appear to be random requests that have nothing to do with
actually supplying a password, including a request at start-up of only the
browser, and it doesn't appear to honor the above timeout settings.  This is
becoming *very* annoying, and from a scan of Bugzilla, there still is no fix
in the works.  What up w' dat, peeps?


Do you have Mail Biff notification activated?
Preference Only check for new mail after opening MailNewsgroups set?


Initially, no.  So I activated that right after reading your reply, and
restarted SM.  No joy.  Password manager still pops up the request box on start
of the browser alone.  (And of course, this doesn't get into the random requests
during browsing for no obvious reason.)


C) Mail and News default view -- in 1.1.18, mail/news starts up opened to my
default mail account Inbox folder in the left pane, showing the folder
contents in right pane.  2.0RC1 opens up to the main e-mail title in the
left pane, thus showing the general settings for e-mail and specific options
for the account (Email, Accounts, Advanced Features).  While the behavior of
2.0RC1 may be beneficial if a user has multiple e-mail accounts, the behavior
of 1.1.18 is preferable if a user only has one account and one Inbox.  Is
there a means to modify 2.0RC1's behavior to be like 1.1.18's, or is this a
reflection of the shift to Toolkit and just something I'll have to put up
with?  


Strg+2 shows the Inbox of the default mail account here.
Preference Remember the last selected message unset?


Aye-firmative.  I've never used that pref in all my days of using Mozilla and
SM.  Obviously doesn't appear to influence this behavior.

Yeah, I smell create-new-profile-and-see-what-happens time.  (Sigh)  Just not
very enthused about the hack 'n test process right now...

Thanks for your ideas, though.  Appreciate the feedback --
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Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-17 Thread chicagofan

D. K. Kraft wrote:

I posted this message originally in the SM 2.0 RC1 introduction thread, but
it appears to have gone unnoticed, so reposting as a new thread and
crossposting to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey for a little wider notice.

Running 2.0RC1 on Win XP Pro SP3 with an import of my SM 1.1.18 profile, and
seeing the following for which I'd appreciate any info,


snip


C) Mail and News default view -- in 1.1.18, mail/news starts up opened to my
default mail account Inbox folder in the left pane, showing the folder
contents in right pane.  2.0RC1 opens up to the main e-mail title in the
left pane, thus showing the general settings for e-mail and specific options
for the account (Email, Accounts, Advanced Features).  While the behavior of
2.0RC1 may be beneficial if a user has multiple e-mail accounts, the
behavior of 1.1.18 is preferable if a user only has one account and one
Inbox.  Is there a means to modify 2.0RC1's behavior to be like 1.1.18's, or
is this a reflection of the shift to Toolkit and just something I'll have to
put up with?



I can't tell you how to resolve this problem, but I can give you hope.  I was
using RC1, with an import of SM 1.1.14 on a Win XP2 system, and I still had the
Inbox display that you want.  Also have it now with RC2.

I do have 2 accounts set up, but never use one of them.  It seems long ago I
selected the account I use, to open, or be the default, or something, but I 
can't
find a setting like that now.  Probably didn't look long enough.  :)

I don't know what differences there were in 1.1.18 and 1.1.14, but hopefully
we're both overlooking something that will make your mail open and display as
you want.  I haven't looked at the profile manager in years, could it have a way
to designate this choice now?  Sorry I don't have the answer you need.
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Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-17 Thread Neil

D. K. Kraft wrote:

A) Password manager multiple requests -- I currently use a Master 
Password with SM 1.1.18, set for If it has not been used for [10] 
minutes or longer, and it works as expected, with necessary requests 
being made within those parameters for needed passwords on a web page 
or for mail access.  SM 2.0RC1 makes what appear to be random requests 
that have nothing to do with actually supplying a password, including 
a request at start-up of only the browser, and it doesn't appear to 
honor the above timeout settings.  This is becoming *very* annoying, 
and from a scan of Bugzilla, there still is no fix in the works.  What 
up w' dat, peeps?


How often do you actually check for mail? Note that the default for 2.0 
is that it checks for mail even though you have not opened the main mail 
window yet. The request at start-up is to work around a bug where if 
start with multiple tabs or mail accounts that need a password then you 
get multiple prompts for the master password, but it can be disabled.


B) Offline and Disk Space setting -- although SM 2.0RC1 honors the 
setting to Ask me for online state at startup, it a) brings up a 
second dialog box after clicking on either option, and has to be 
clicked on again to start the program in either mode; and b) the 
dialog box is accompanied by the Default Beep sound assigned by Win XP.


I have to say, I haven't tried this setting. In fact, I'd forgotten that 
it was there.


C) Mail and News default view -- in 1.1.18, mail/news starts up opened 
to my default mail account Inbox folder in the left pane, showing the 
folder contents in right pane.  2.0RC1 opens up to the main e-mail 
title in the left pane, thus showing the general settings for e-mail 
and specific options for the account (Email, Accounts, Advanced 
Features).


This should depend on the check for new mail at startup preference for 
your default account. (Although we should have imported that from your 
old profile.)


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Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-17 Thread Neil

Neil wrote:


D. K. Kraft wrote:

B) Offline and Disk Space setting -- although SM 2.0RC1 honors the 
setting to Ask me for online state at startup, it a) brings up a 
second dialog box after clicking on either option, and has to be 
clicked on again to start the program in either mode; and b) the 
dialog box is accompanied by the Default Beep sound assigned by Win XP.


I have to say, I haven't tried this setting. In fact, I'd forgotten 
that it was there.


OK, so I tried it out, and it does sometimes (e.g. after installing an 
extension) ask you twice, which I agree is a bug.


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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-17 Thread Jens Hatlak

NoOp wrote:

 Perhaps 'network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto - true' should
be either included as an option in the Edit|Preferences|Mail 
Newsgroups or Edit|Preferences|Browser?


If at all only in the former, it's about MailNews, not the browser 
component. You may file an enhancement bug for that. :-)


This should probably be accompanied by a short Help entry that states 
that this only works if SeaMonkey is *not* set as the system's default 
mail application.


Greetings,

Jens

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Re: Alarming message in SM 2.0 beta

2009-10-17 Thread Robert Kaiser

Gerry Hickman wrote:

While downloading a file, a message just popped up saying an Add-on was
causing problems and was blocked, it points to this article

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=522777

Thing is, I've never installed any add-ons, and I've disabled installing
add-ons. I also don't understand why anything related to Microsoft is
interfering with Mozilla? The whole point of using SM is to avoid
Microsoft's security-flawed application software.


Please read 
http://shaver.off.net/diary/2009/10/16/net-framework-assistant-blocked-to-disarm-security-vulnerability/ 
for that, it also liks articles with more info about what it is.


Microsoft installs it silently and in a somewhat hidden fashion, and 
their representatives asked to block it for now.


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Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-17 Thread D. K. Kraft

With patience akin to a cat's, Neil, on 10/17/2009 12:28 PM typed:

D. K. Kraft wrote:


A) Password manager multiple requests -- I currently use a Master
Password with SM 1.1.18, set for If it has not been used for [10]
minutes or longer, and it works as expected, with necessary requests
being made within those parameters for needed passwords on a web page
or for mail access.  SM 2.0RC1 makes what appear to be random requests
that have nothing to do with actually supplying a password, including
a request at start-up of only the browser, and it doesn't appear to
honor the above timeout settings.  This is becoming *very* annoying,
and from a scan of Bugzilla, there still is no fix in the works.  What
up w' dat, peeps?


How often do you actually check for mail? Note that the default for 2.0
is that it checks for mail even though you have not opened the main mail
window yet. The request at start-up is to work around a bug where if
start with multiple tabs or mail accounts that need a password then you
get multiple prompts for the master password, but it can be disabled.


I have both 1.1.18 and 2.0 set to Check for new messages on startup
currently.  However, wouldn't the pref for 2.0, under Mail  Newsgroups |
General Settings, Only check for new mail after opening Mail 
Newsgroups, override the need for the password request when only starting
the browser?   Obviously this isn't the behavior I'm seeing, but logically,
it would be expected IMO.


B) Offline and Disk Space setting -- although SM 2.0RC1 honors the
setting to Ask me for online state at startup, it a) brings up a
second dialog box after clicking on either option, and has to be
clicked on again to start the program in either mode; and b) the
dialog box is accompanied by the Default Beep sound assigned by Win XP.


I have to say, I haven't tried this setting. In fact, I'd forgotten that
it was there.


Upon creation of a new test profile for 2.0 RC1, I'm not seeing the
behavior described in b) except sporadically, without any real rhyme or
reason.  Behavior described in a) still persists, and looks like it is
default program behavior.  Can learn to live with it, but a little annoying
all the same.

BTW, this option is useful for checking e-mail messages without actually
going online and waiting for mail to download.  Small timesaver, but
still useful.


C) Mail and News default view -- in 1.1.18, mail/news starts up opened
to my default mail account Inbox folder in the left pane, showing the
folder contents in right pane.  2.0RC1 opens up to the main e-mail
title in the left pane, thus showing the general settings for e-mail
and specific options for the account (Email, Accounts, Advanced
Features).


This should depend on the check for new mail at startup preference for
your default account. (Although we should have imported that from your
old profile.)


Ah-ha!  On 1.1.18 I have it set for Check for new messages at startup and
then Check for new messages every 10 minutes.  I unchecked the first
option in 2.0 for testing purposes, but ticking that checkbox makes 2.0
behave as expected--it jumps right to the Inbox.  Yeah!  One item solved.
(happy happy) :D

Many thanks for getting one item back to my comfort zone --
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Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-17 Thread D. K. Kraft

With patience akin to a cat's, chicagofan, on 10/17/2009 12:20 PM typed:

D. K. Kraft wrote:
snip

C) Mail and News default view -- in 1.1.18, mail/news starts up opened
to my default mail account Inbox folder in the left pane, showing the folder
contents in right pane.  2.0RC1 opens up to the main e-mail title in the left 
pane,
thus showing the general settings for e-mail and specific options for the 
account
(Email, Accounts, Advanced Features).


further snippage


I can't tell you how to resolve this problem, but I can give you hope.  I was
using RC1, with an import of SM 1.1.14 on a Win XP2 system, and I still had the
Inbox display that you want.  Also have it now with RC2.

I do have 2 accounts set up, but never use one of them.  It seems long ago I
selected the account I use, to open, or be the default, or something, but I 
can't
find a setting like that now.  Probably didn't look long enough.  :)

I don't know what differences there were in 1.1.18 and 1.1.14, but hopefully
we're both overlooking something that will make your mail open and display as
you want.  I haven't looked at the profile manager in years, could it have a way
to designate this choice now?  Sorry I don't have the answer you need.
bj


Thanks for your reply.  Neil found that the display of the Inbox upon
starting Mail  Newsgroups was dependent upon having the pref Check for
new messages at startup ticked.  Since I'd unticked it in 2.0 for testing,
rechecking it did the trick.

One item down, a few others to go --
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Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-17 Thread Jens Hatlak

D. K. Kraft wrote:
A) Password manager multiple requests -- I currently use a Master 
Password with SM 1.1.18, set for If it has not been used for [10]

minutes or longer, and it works as expected, with necessary requests
being made within those parameters for needed passwords on a web page
or for mail access.  SM 2.0RC1 makes what appear to be random
requests that have nothing to do with actually supplying a password,
including a request at start-up of only the browser, and it doesn't 
appear to honor the above timeout settings.  This is becoming *very*

annoying, and from a scan of Bugzilla, there still is no fix in the
works.


Unfortunately the real solution was not ready in time for SM 2.0 (it 
depends on code shared with Thunderbird and Firefox and requires some 
knowledge, thinking and testing to get it right). The Master Password 
prompt at startup, which can be disabled by setting the 
signon.startup.prompt pref to false, is meant as an interim solution for 
those who setup a Master Password (no prompt appears for those who 
didn't setup one). It works quite well if you don't let it expire. If 
you do the underlying problem (multiple simultaneous login prompts) may 
be exposed again. I didn't check; for now I can only suggest to not let 
it expire if you otherwise get into trouble.


HTH

Jens

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Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-17 Thread chicagofan

D. K. Kraft wrote:

With patience akin to a cat's, chicagofan, on 10/17/2009 12:20 PM typed:


I don't know what differences there were in 1.1.18 and 1.1.14, but
hopefully we're both overlooking something that will make your mail open
and display as you want.  I haven't looked at the profile manager in years,
could it have a way to designate this choice now?  Sorry I don't have the
answer you need. bj


Thanks for your reply.  Neil found that the display of the Inbox upon
starting Mail  Newsgroups was dependent upon having the pref Check for new
messages at startup ticked.  Since I'd unticked it in 2.0 for testing,
rechecking it did the trick.

One item down, a few others to go --



AH... so simple!  I was hoping it was something that easy, but just couldn't
help.  Glad you've got one down now, thanks to Neil.
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Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability

2009-10-17 Thread Daniel

Bret Busby wrote:

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009, Daniel wrote:


(P.S. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In *Five* Parts)



That was dealt with by me, in a message posted to the list, in response 
to a similar claim, I believe by you, in mid-July.


My citation was correct.

See the message below.

Please desist in incorrect corrections, that are not on-topic.

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  The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
  A Trilogy In Four Parts,
  written by Douglas Adams,
  published by Pan Books, 1992



On Wed, 15 Jul 2009, Bret Busby wrote:


Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:11:41 +0800 (WST)
From: Bret Busby b...@busby.net
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Really OT - HHGTTG - was Re: OT : was  Re: Adding search 
engines to seamonkey


On Wed, 15 Jul 2009, Daniel wrote:

 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:55:24 +1000
 From: Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au
 To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
 Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
 Subject: OT : was  Re: Adding search engines to seamonkey
  Bret Busby wrote:
  On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Philip Chee wrote:
 Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:10:52 +0800
   From: Philip Chee philip.c...@gmail.com
  snip
   --   Bret Busby
  Armadale
  West Australia
  ..
So once you do know what the question actually is,
   you'll know what the answer means.
  - Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
A Trilogy In Four Parts,
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992

  Two things Bret:-
  1. Your sig de-limiter is broke (should be dash dash space), 
otherwise I could not have quoted it here, and,

  2. Hitchhiker's guide is actually a trilogy in five parts.

The citation is correct.

The edition was
published in 1992 by Pan Books
an imprint of Pan MacMillan Ltd
Pan MacMillan, 20 New Wharf Road, London N1 9RR
Basingstoke and Oxford
...
ISBN 0 330 31611 7.

The front cover is a picture of a bathroom wall, with a Philishave (?) 
(three-headed) electric shaver on a glass shelf, on
the left, on the right hand end of the glass shelf, is a digital 
watch, above that, is a glass hanging on the wall, containg
three toothbrushes, and between the electricity supply socket ito 
which the electric shaver is plugged, and the glass
hanging on the wall, is a mirror, containing an image of the Vogon 
bulldozer, oriented in the direction of travel from the
top right corner of the mirror, to the bottom left corner of the 
mirror. The wall tiles are coloured darkish blue.


See http://www.sfbok.se/asp/artikel.asp?VolumeID=24535 , for an 
illustration of the cover of the book.


And, the cited quote is from the topmost paragraph on page 129 of the 
cited book. It is the second sentence of the

paragraph.

The first sentence of that paragraph, is
 'Exactly!' said Deep Thought.

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West Australia
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So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means.
- Deep Thought,
  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
  The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
  A Trilogy In Four Parts,
  written by Douglas Adams,
  published by Pan Books, 1992


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Drat, my failing memory!

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Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-17 Thread Neil

D. K. Kraft wrote:


With patience akin to a cat's, Neil, on 10/17/2009 12:28 PM typed:

The request at start-up is to work around a bug where if start with 
multiple tabs or mail accounts that need a password then you get 
multiple prompts for the master password, but it can be disabled.


I have both 1.1.18 and 2.0 set to Check for new messages on startup 
currently.  However, wouldn't the pref for 2.0, under Mail  
Newsgroups | General Settings, Only check for new mail after opening 
Mail  Newsgroups, override the need for the password request when 
only starting the browser?


No, because as I pointed out, the presence of password-protected 
websites in multiple tabs can trigger the same problem. If you are sure 
you don't need the master password when you start up you can disable it 
via about:config (we didn't have time to add it to the preferences window).


Upon creation of a new test profile for 2.0 RC1, I'm not seeing the 
behavior described in b) except sporadically, without any real rhyme 
or reason.


Oh, there's a reason all right ;-) I'll file a bug on it.

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SM 2.0 RC1 -- mail and news messages not marked as read after viewing

2009-10-17 Thread D. K. Kraft

Further testing of SM 2.0 RC1 behavior on Win XP SP3 with a migrated
profile from SM 1.1.18:

In 1.1.18, when a message has been viewed (e.g. clicked on), it is
automatically (and logically) marked as read.  This is true for both mail
and news.

SM 2.0 RC1 doesn't follow the above behavior, instead keeping a viewed
message as unread no matter how many times it's clicked upon.  I have the
pref regarding auto-marking a message as read (Mail  Newsgroups | Message
Display | General | Automatically mark messages as read) unticked, as I
don't want messages to be marked as read until I've read them.  Be that as
it may, 2.0 *should not* be behaving in the observed fashion
AFAICT--messages *should* be marked as read once they have been viewed.

In comparison, 1.1.18 only has a time interval setting for marking messages
(Wait [] seconds before marking a message as read), and it's unclear if
this pertains to automatically doing so, or doing so after a message has
been viewed.  Since I've never used this pref in SM 1.1.x, I can't speak to
a comparison of behavior.

I have *tried*, really and truly, *tried* to find a bug listing in Bugzilla
for the described behavior of SM 2.0 RC1, but it is quite literally an
effort in futility.  If anyone has a better knack of coming up with search
keywords that deliver less-than-making-one-crosseyed results, I would be
more than grateful for you to apply your skills here.  For surely this is a
bug that has been listed for SM 2.0 already--unless I have a mutant version
and am the only user experiencing this behavior...

TIA for any replies and assistance --
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Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-17 Thread D. K. Kraft

With patience akin to a cat's, Jens Hatlak, on 10/17/2009 3:39 PM typed:

D. K. Kraft wrote:

A) Password manager multiple requests -- I currently use a Master
Password with SM 1.1.18, set for If it has not been used for [10]
minutes or longer, and it works as expected, with necessary requests
being made within those parameters for needed passwords on a web page
or for mail access.  SM 2.0RC1 makes what appear to be random
requests that have nothing to do with actually supplying a password,
including a request at start-up of only the browser, and it doesn't
appear to honor the above timeout settings.  This is becoming *very*
annoying, and from a scan of Bugzilla, there still is no fix in the
works.


Unfortunately the real solution was not ready in time for SM 2.0 (it
depends on code shared with Thunderbird and Firefox and requires some
knowledge, thinking and testing to get it right).


Well, I thought maybe this was the case, although some other users I know
will consider the current behavior a showstopper for 2.0.  Me, I just
mutter to myself a lot... ;-)  I do know I'll have to wait for the fix
before migrating my parents to SM 2.0, as the little box popping up more
frequently will have them in a tizzy.  They don't do change very well...


The Master Password prompt at startup, which can be disabled by setting the
signon.startup.prompt pref to false, is meant as an interim solution for
those who setup a Master Password (no prompt appears for those who
didn't setup one). It works quite well if you don't let it expire. If
you do the underlying problem (multiple simultaneous login prompts) may
be exposed again. I didn't check; for now I can only suggest to not let
it expire if you otherwise get into trouble.


If by expire, you mean the timeout setting mentioned above?  While waiting
on the fix to be worked out, I certainly could go back to using the Master
Password setting of The first time it is needed instead of the timeout.
I was using the latter after having read in the MozillaZine forums
(somewhere, its origin escapes me now) that using the timeout option
offered a bit more security overall, in that your passwords weren't always
automatically being filled in after you initially enter your MP.


HTH


Yes, it did.  Thanks for taking the time to file down my frustration level
a little.  I'm in the process of building a new computer for my sister, who
lives in Sun Valley, and I'm trying to get as much software to an updated
point as possible.  Remote Access works, but coordinating update times with
her is complicated.

Thanks again for the feedback --
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Re: SM 2.0 RC1 -- mail and news messages not marked as read after viewing

2009-10-17 Thread chicagofan

D. K. Kraft wrote:

Further testing of SM 2.0 RC1 behavior on Win XP SP3 with a migrated
profile from SM 1.1.18:

In 1.1.18, when a message has been viewed (e.g. clicked on), it is
automatically (and logically) marked as read.  This is true for both mail
and news.

SM 2.0 RC1 doesn't follow the above behavior, instead keeping a viewed
message as unread no matter how many times it's clicked upon.  I have the
pref regarding auto-marking a message as read (Mail  Newsgroups | Message
Display | General | Automatically mark messages as read) unticked, as I
don't want messages to be marked as read until I've read them.  Be that as
it may, 2.0 *should not* be behaving in the observed fashion
AFAICT--messages *should* be marked as read once they have been viewed.

In comparison, 1.1.18 only has a time interval setting for marking messages
(Wait [] seconds before marking a message as read), and it's unclear if
this pertains to automatically doing so, or doing so after a message has
been viewed.  Since I've never used this pref in SM 1.1.x, I can't speak to
a comparison of behavior.

I have *tried*, really and truly, *tried* to find a bug listing in Bugzilla
for the described behavior of SM 2.0 RC1, but it is quite literally an
effort in futility.  If anyone has a better knack of coming up with search
keywords that deliver less-than-making-one-crosseyed results, I would be
more than grateful for you to apply your skills here.  For surely this is a
bug that has been listed for SM 2.0 already--unless I have a mutant version
and am the only user experiencing this behavior...

TIA for any replies and assistance --



I think this is the bug you wanted to see filed, and it has been resolved, in 
RC2.:)


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=514876


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Sort e-mails by newest/updated threads?

2009-10-17 Thread Ant
I didn't even know SeaMonkey v1.1.18's e-mails could be sorted by 
threads. I always had it sorted by dates.


I was wondering if there was a way to short threads by newest/updated 
dates. I replied to an old e-mail thread and it was not at the top 
(sorted by newest to oldest).


If unavailale in SM v1.x, then can SM v2.x do this?
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Re: SM 2.0 RC1 -- mail and news messages not marked as read after viewing *SOLVED*

2009-10-17 Thread D. K. Kraft

With patience akin to a cat's, KristleBawl, on 10/17/2009 5:10 PM typed:

D. K. Kraft wrote:

Further testing of SM 2.0 RC1 behavior on Win XP SP3 with a migrated
profile from SM 1.1.18:

In 1.1.18, when a message has been viewed (e.g. clicked on), it is
automatically (and logically) marked as read. This is true for both
mail and news.

SM 2.0 RC1 doesn't follow the above behavior, instead keeping a viewed
message as unread no matter how many times it's clicked upon. I have
the pref regarding auto-marking a message as read (Mail  Newsgroups |
Message Display | General | Automatically mark messages as read)
unticked, as I don't want messages to be marked as read until I've read
them. Be that as it may, 2.0 *should not* be behaving in the observed
fashion AFAICT--messages *should* be marked as read once they have been
viewed.

In comparison, 1.1.18 only has a time interval setting for marking
messages (Wait [] seconds before marking a message as read), and it's
unclear if this pertains to automatically doing so, or doing so after a
message has been viewed. Since I've never used this pref in SM 1.1.x, I
can't speak to a comparison of behavior.

snippage


See if this applies.
Want to entirely disable marking a message as read when viewed
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=297534


Good try, but it pertains to Thunderbird, not SM 2.0 (even though some of
Thunderbird's options are now *in* SM 2.0).  But this situation isn't even a
ghost of a bug, as I have found out to my extreme mortification.  It's an epic
fail on my part to comprehend the pref under Mail  Newsgroups | Message
Display | General, which is the following (where [] represents a checkbox, and
() a radio button):

[] Automatically mark messages as read:
  () Immediately on display

To get the behavior I have now with 1.1.18--where a message is marked as read
*upon display*--I need to check that checkbox and tick the radio button.

[bangs head on keyboard]

Epic fail on follows instructions.  Epic fail on reading instructions.  I
think I need to take a break, step back, and not try so hard...  Or
something...

And I'm supposed to be the schmart one in my family --
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Re: SM 2.0 RC1 -- mail and news messages not marked as read after viewing *SOLVED*

2009-10-17 Thread D. K. Kraft

With patience akin to a cat's, chicagofan, on 10/17/2009 5:37 PM typed:

D. K. Kraft wrote:

Further testing of SM 2.0 RC1 behavior on Win XP SP3 with a migrated
profile from SM 1.1.18:

In 1.1.18, when a message has been viewed (e.g. clicked on), it is
automatically (and logically) marked as read. This is true for both
mail and news.

SM 2.0 RC1 doesn't follow the above behavior, instead keeping a viewed
message as unread no matter how many times it's clicked upon. I have
the pref regarding auto-marking a message as read (Mail Newsgroups |
Message Display | General | Automatically mark messages as read)
unticked, as I don't want messages to be marked as read until I've read
them. Be that as it may, 2.0 *should not* be behaving in the observed
fashion AFAICT--messages *should* be marked as read once they have been
viewed.

In comparison, 1.1.18 only has a time interval setting for marking
messages (Wait [] seconds before marking a message as read), and it's
unclear if this pertains to automatically doing so, or doing so after a
message has been viewed. Since I've never used this pref in SM 1.1.x, I
can't speak to a comparison of behavior.


I think this is the bug you wanted to see filed, and it has been
resolved, in RC2.:)

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=514876


snort!  Nope, it's not even the ghost of a bug.  It's an epic fail on my
part to comprehend the pref under Mail  Newsgroups | Message Display |
General, which is the following (where [] represents a checkbox, and () a
radio button):

[] Automatically mark messages as read:
  () Immediately on display

To get the behavior I have now with 1.1.18--where a message is marked as read
*upon display*--I need to check that checkbox and tick the radio button.

[bangs head on keyboard]

Epic fail on follows instructions.  Epic fail on reading instructions.  I
think I need to take a break, step back, and not try so hard...  Or
something...

And I'm supposed to be the schmart one in my family --
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Re: SM 2.0 RC1 -- mail and news messages not marked as read after viewing *SOLVED*

2009-10-17 Thread chicagofan

D. K. Kraft wrote:

With patience akin to a cat's, chicagofan, on 10/17/2009 5:37 PM typed:

D. K. Kraft wrote:

Further testing of SM 2.0 RC1 behavior on Win XP SP3 with a migrated
profile from SM 1.1.18:

In 1.1.18, when a message has been viewed (e.g. clicked on), it is
automatically (and logically) marked as read. This is true for both
mail and news.

SM 2.0 RC1 doesn't follow the above behavior, instead keeping a viewed
message as unread no matter how many times it's clicked upon. I have
the pref regarding auto-marking a message as read (Mail  Newsgroups |
Message Display | General | Automatically mark messages as read)
unticked, as I don't want messages to be marked as read until I've read
them. Be that as it may, 2.0 *should not* be behaving in the observed
fashion AFAICT--messages *should* be marked as read once they have been
viewed.

In comparison, 1.1.18 only has a time interval setting for marking
messages (Wait [] seconds before marking a message as read), and it's
unclear if this pertains to automatically doing so, or doing so after a
message has been viewed. Since I've never used this pref in SM 1.1.x, I
can't speak to a comparison of behavior.


I think this is the bug you wanted to see filed, and it has been resolved,
in RC2.:)

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=514876


snort!   Nope, it's not even the ghost of a bug.  It's an epic fail on my
part to comprehend the pref under Mail  Newsgroups | Message Display |
General, which is the following (where [] represents a checkbox, and () a
radio button):

[] Automatically mark messages as read: () Immediately on display

To get the behavior I have now with 1.1.18--where a message is marked as read
*upon display*--I need to check that checkbox and tick the radio button.

[bangs head on keyboard]

Epic fail on follows instructions.  Epic fail on reading instructions.  I
think I need to take a break, step back, and not try so hard...  Or
something...

And I'm supposed to be the schmart one in my family --



I agree that in RC1, it doesn't matter what you check in preferences, it does
NOT work, as you have described.  There's nothing wrong with your comprehension,
it simply isn't working in that release.  :)

However, if I understand you correctly, and
you want the messages to be marked as read after you have viewed them, that IS
corrected in *RC2*.   Did you read all the comments in the bug filed on the
failure to mark messages as read?  Or am I not understanding what you want?
bj


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IMAP Mail - Subscribe to INBOX

2009-10-17 Thread pachl
I have 4 IMAP accounts setup within Seamonkey. I noticed the
subscriptions for the 3 IMAP accounts connecting to local servers are
not subscribed to INBOX; however, my Gmail account is subscribed to
INBOX.

I have not been able to discern the subscription to INBOX from the
lack of. My Inbox seems to operate normally regardless of
subscription.

What are the technical consequences of un/subscribing to INBOX?
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