Re: form history

2010-08-12 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Rick Merrill wrote: It would not matter if they did or did not: the website designer can still use form fields for whatever. It is the fault of the website creator to use insecure methods. It is not the fault of SM "forms" if a field called "cc" is used to store a credit card number. At any r

Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?

2010-08-12 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
DoctorBill wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 8/9/10 11:53 AM, Ray_Net wrote: DoctorBill wrote: I get all sorts of jokes and political E-Mail from my conservative friends which I want to pass on to those on my mailing list. Often they are "eml" types of messages. When i

Re: SeaMonkey Help?

2010-08-12 Thread NoOp
On 08/12/2010 06:32 PM, Harold Robbins wrote: > I keep getting mail in the list, but I cannot see my Email nor get replies. > WHere do I go for help in SeaMonkey ? Use the newsgroups instead: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.support.seamonkey > > > H

Re: Silverlight - Moonlight [Was: It is SM or bad site code?]

2010-08-12 Thread NoOp
On 08/12/2010 07:03 PM, d...@kd4e.com wrote: ... > BTW: I make a practice to *never use google*, http://startpage.com > is just as good and doesn't sell-out privacy and freedom for profit, > nor do they engage in monopolistic practices. Time for more of us > to engage in freedom-friendly choices

Re: Silverlight - Moonlight [Was: It is SM or bad site code?]

2010-08-12 Thread d...@kd4e.com
NoOp wrote: Why might I have a problem with mono on my system, please? I am unfamiliar with it. I don't - other do. I'm sure you tried this before asking, right? No, because I thought it was something about which you

Re: Silverlight - Moonlight [Was: It is SM or bad site code?]

2010-08-12 Thread NoOp
On 08/12/2010 06:20 PM, d...@kd4e.com wrote: >> It really caused fits with the Olympics& linux. Install Moonlight >> (unless you are opposed to having mono on your system): >> >> http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/ >> >> http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/prerelease.aspx >> http://www.go-mono.com/moon

SeaMonkey Help?

2010-08-12 Thread Harold Robbins
Title: H:\signature.htm I keep getting mail in the list, but I cannot see my Email nor get replies.  WHere do I go for help in SeaMonkey ? Harold -- Harold Robbins 1220 Corona Dr Austin TX 78723 H: (512) 452-2692 M: (512) 799-4643 'IN GOD WE  TRUST' __

Re: Silverlight - Moonlight [Was: It is SM or bad site code?]

2010-08-12 Thread d...@kd4e.com
It really caused fits with the Olympics& linux. Install Moonlight (unless you are opposed to having mono on your system): http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/ http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/prerelease.aspx http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/downloads/2.99.0.8/novell-moonlight-2.99.0.8-i586.xpi It

Re: It is SM or bad site code?

2010-08-12 Thread Phillip Jones
William Morrison wrote: d...@kd4e.com wrote: This link brings up a page with a single image: http://www.wbmq.net/ It is supposed to be the home page of a radio station in Savannah. Is it a browser-sniffer gone bad or some other bad code or does my SM 2.0.6 need a tweak? It's your eyesight

Re: Tabnabbing: A New Type of Phishing Attack

2010-08-12 Thread Beverly Howard
>> The code won't activate until you switch away from it; that's the actual point the author is making. << An excellent point... but, they way it happened to me was sort of like getting stabbed in order to learn not to go down dark alleyways ;-) Beverly Howard _

Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE

2010-08-12 Thread NoOp
On 08/12/2010 04:42 PM, NoOp wrote: ... > I agree with David regarding the rfc... however: > > The link doesn't work with Opera (linux) as well. > > But it *does* work with Chromium 5.0.375.125 (53311) Ubuntu 10.04 > (linux), and Epiphany Web Browser 2.30.2 (linux). Sorry, forgot to mention that

Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE

2010-08-12 Thread NoOp
On 08/12/2010 07:38 AM, David E. Ross wrote: > On 8/12/10 6:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote: >> David E. Ross wrote: >>> >>> No, you have missed at least two points. >>> >>> If the file is on your local PC running Windows, then >>> file:///C:/TEST/didyouseethepicture.htm >>> is the same as >>> file:\C

Re: It is SM or bad site code?

2010-08-12 Thread NoOp
On 08/12/2010 01:08 PM, d...@kd4e.com wrote: > Thanks all! CTRL-A got me closer -- it was really bright in > this room so the screen was washed-out. > > Now I get this pop-up: > > --- > ALMOST THERE! > To see and hear our station the way we

Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE

2010-08-12 Thread JeffM
David E. Ross wrote: >someone who thinks that a Web page is okay >merely because it looks okay with IE >is ignoring at least half of their potential viewers >and possibly more than two-thirds of viewers. > Yup. *More*. Especially if you're in the 4th most populous nation: :Firefox’s share on many o

Re: Tabnabbing: A New Type of Phishing Attack

2010-08-12 Thread NoOp
On 08/12/2010 12:54 PM, Beverly Howard wrote: > >> proof of concept << > > I assumed (and hoped) that it was innocent, but, as it would work when > malicious, I got pulled off the page before I had time to read far > enough to get to the full explanation of what _was_ going to happen. > > When

Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE

2010-08-12 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov
Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:45:45 +0200, /Ray_Net/: But The markup >> works with SM when accessing the page in local or on a local webserver. That may be because of your local web server doing the same "compensation" as IE is doing on the client-side, before sending the URL to the server. While i

Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE

2010-08-12 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov
Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:32:34 +0200, /Ray_Net/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: The problem with the non-standard compliant behavior of IE in this case is the URI may contain \ (back-slash) as non-hierarchical separator, therefore IE will incorrectly transform it to a forward slash and result in a non-ex

Re: URL links not active?

2010-08-12 Thread Beverly Howard
>> I have noticed that on occasion URL addresses that appear in list or newsgroup messages, that start with http:// do not show up as an active link. In other words, they do not appear/display in my posted message underlined, of a different color, and are NOT clickable. << What is the message win

Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE

2010-08-12 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/12/10 7:38 AM, David E. Ross wrote: > On 8/12/10 6:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote: >> David E. Ross wrote: >>> >>> No, you have missed at least two points. >>> >>> If the file is on your local PC running Windows, then >>> file:///C:/TEST/didyouseethepicture.htm >>> is the same as >>> file:\C:\TE

Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE

2010-08-12 Thread Ray_Net
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 07:38:01 -0700, /Rick Merrill/: But that is a totally toothless motto. While I agree with you, the fact is that the non-compliant are getting the money and the "competent" do not. Case in point: those websites developed with TOOLS that do not adhere to

Re: Possible to send email in the background?

2010-08-12 Thread J. Weaver Jr.
Rick Merrill wrote: Dave wrote: Hi all, is it possible to make Seamonkey send emails in the background rather than having the window pop up indicating the status with the server? This is irritating when sending large emails. Many thanks! Let your OS send your email (silently as all get

Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE

2010-08-12 Thread Ray_Net
David E. Ross wrote: On 8/12/10 6:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote: David E. Ross wrote: No, you have missed at least two points. If the file is on your local PC running Windows, then file:///C:/TEST/didyouseethepicture.htm is the same as file:\C:\TEST\didyouseethepicture.htm Even SeaMonk

Re: It is SM or bad site code?

2010-08-12 Thread Beverly Howard
>> View -> Use Style -> None << Thanks... wish I had known about this years ago! works but has it's own set of problems. Thanks again, Beverly Howard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/li

Re: It is SM or bad site code?

2010-08-12 Thread William Morrison
d...@kd4e.com wrote: This link brings up a page with a single image: http://www.wbmq.net/ It is supposed to be the home page of a radio station in Savannah. Is it a browser-sniffer gone bad or some other bad code or does my SM 2.0.6 need a tweak? It's your eyesight that's going bad. There's

Re: It is SM or bad site code?

2010-08-12 Thread d...@kd4e.com
Thanks all! CTRL-A got me closer -- it was really bright in this room so the screen was washed-out. Now I get this pop-up: --- ALMOST THERE! To see and hear our station the way we intended, you will need to download the FREE Silverlight Pl

Re: It is SM or bad site code?

2010-08-12 Thread JeffM
doc@ kd4e.com wrote: >This link brings up a page with a single image: >http://www.wbmq.net/ > It wants to load a style sheet and a Flash object via JavaScript. As Stanimir said, the text on the page uses a poorly-chosen color. Next time, hit Ctrl-A to mark all and see what turns up. ___

Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE

2010-08-12 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov
Thu, 12 Aug 2010 07:38:01 -0700, /Rick Merrill/: But that is a totally toothless motto. While I agree with you, the fact is that the non-compliant are getting the money and the "competent" do not. Case in point: those websites developed with TOOLS that do not adhere to the standards. The probl

Re: Tabnabbing: A New Type of Phishing Attack

2010-08-12 Thread Beverly Howard
>> proof of concept << I assumed (and hoped) that it was innocent, but, as it would work when malicious, I got pulled off the page before I had time to read far enough to get to the full explanation of what _was_ going to happen. When I returned to the tab, there as the bogus page. imho, the

Re: It is SM or bad site code?

2010-08-12 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov
Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:08:42 -0400, /d...@kd4e.com/: This link brings up a page with a single image: http://www.wbmq.net/ It is supposed to be the home page of a radio station in Savannah. Is it a browser-sniffer gone bad or some other bad code or does my SM 2.0.6 need a tweak? I see a "Contin

Re: URL links not active?

2010-08-12 Thread Hartmut Figge
Keith Whaley: >I have noticed that on occasion URL addresses that appear in list or >newsgroup messages, that start with http:// do not show up as an active >link. In other words, they do not appear/display in my posted message >underlined, of a different color, and are NOT clickable. Can you

URL links not active?

2010-08-12 Thread Keith Whaley
I have noticed that on occasion URL addresses that appear in list or newsgroup messages, that start with http:// do not show up as an active link. In other words, they do not appear/display in my posted message underlined, of a different color, and are NOT clickable. It doesn’t seem to be limi

Re: Sad to leave SeaMonkey...

2010-08-12 Thread JeffM
Broadback wrote: >it does not work with either "Helping Hands" > David previously linked to an excellent page on his site which explains that it is simply a matter of compensating for the incompetent webmaster of that site. http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/0b86a1bf7f57ab

Should I add this?

2010-08-12 Thread d...@kd4e.com
Is the Video DownloadHelper 4.8 add-on a good idea? Is there a consensus in the Seamonkey community that this is a good download? Does it create any security openings or otherwise compromise Seamonkey in any way? -- Thanks! & 73, doc, KD4E "Communicators must defend free speech or risk losing

It is SM or bad site code?

2010-08-12 Thread d...@kd4e.com
This link brings up a page with a single image: http://www.wbmq.net/ It is supposed to be the home page of a radio station in Savannah. Is it a browser-sniffer gone bad or some other bad code or does my SM 2.0.6 need a tweak? -- Thanks! & 73, doc, KD4E "Communicators must defend free speech o

Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE

2010-08-12 Thread JeffM
Ray_Net wrote: >Therefore SM is wrong when he got a good result > No. What is wrong is _trying to interpret **broken** code by **guessing**_. >IE is more coherent, he work in all cases. > You're very forgiving when applying the word "all". The number of cases where Internet Exploder refuses to re

Re: Tabnabbing: A New Type of Phishing Attack

2010-08-12 Thread NoOp
On 08/12/2010 08:45 AM, Beverly Howard wrote: > Be aware of the fact that the first link in the op _executes_ the > attack! While this page may be benevolent, it is deceptive and it does > solicit a login!!! > > Beverly Howard > It's a 'proof-of-concept'. Watch the flash video & he explains e

Re: Sad to leave SeaMonkey...

2010-08-12 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/12/10 9:41 AM, Broadback wrote: > ...but it does not work with either "Helping Hands" or with the Nectar > collect points for searching software. However I would still like to > keep SeaMonkey Mail, is it possible to delete the browser and keep the > mail? How about giving us the links to

Re: Sad to leave SeaMonkey...

2010-08-12 Thread Beverly Howard
>> is it possible to delete the browser and keep the mail? << The browser and email are separate executables. The simplest approach would be install or set another browser as your default browser and set seamonkey to open only the email client when launched. edit/preferences/appearance Doin

Sad to leave SeaMonkey...

2010-08-12 Thread Broadback
...but it does not work with either "Helping Hands" or with the Nectar collect points for searching software. However I would still like to keep SeaMonkey Mail, is it possible to delete the browser and keep the mail? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list

Re: Tabnabbing: A New Type of Phishing Attack

2010-08-12 Thread Beverly Howard
Be aware of the fact that the first link in the op _executes_ the attack! While this page may be benevolent, it is deceptive and it does solicit a login!!! Beverly Howard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https:/

Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE

2010-08-12 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/12/10 6:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote: > David E. Ross wrote: >> >> No, you have missed at least two points. >> >> If the file is on your local PC running Windows, then >> file:///C:/TEST/didyouseethepicture.htm >> is the same as >> file:\C:\TEST\didyouseethepicture.htm >> Even SeaMonkey reco

Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE

2010-08-12 Thread Ray_Net
David E. Ross wrote: On 8/11/10 2:35 PM, Ray_Net wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 8/11/10 7:47 AM, Ray_Net wrote: http://home.scarlet.be/~pin10521/didyouseethepicture.htm The markup has a path to the image with a back-slash (\). That makes the path invalid for something on a Web serv

Re: Possible to send email in the background?

2010-08-12 Thread Rick Merrill
Dave wrote: Hi all, is it possible to make Seamonkey send emails in the background rather than having the window pop up indicating the status with the server? This is irritating when sending large emails. Many thanks! Let your OS send your email (silently as all get out): sendEmail - Send em

Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE

2010-08-12 Thread Rick Merrill
JeffM wrote: JeffM wrote: Standards are a Good Thing(tm). Using the W3C Validator on your code is also a Good Thing(tm). The word for those who don't do that is "incompetent". Rick Merrill wrote: But that is a totally toothless motto. Sorry. It's the best I have. While I agree with you,

Re: Possible to send email in the background?

2010-08-12 Thread Ralph Fox
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 01:48:39 -0700 (PDT), in message news://news.mozilla.org:119/3040f6cb-843f-4774-85e3-0ce00dae3...@y11g2000yqm.googlegroups.com Dave wrote: > is it possible to make Seamonkey send emails in the background rather > than having the window pop up indicating the status with the s

Re: form history

2010-08-12 Thread Rick Merrill
Phillip Jones wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: how can you edit the form history? (and delete the mistaken entries I made) In SeaMonkey 2.1 you'll have the

Re: Possible to send email in the background?

2010-08-12 Thread Dave
No possibility for this? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: Possible to send email in the background?

2010-08-12 Thread Dave
No possibility for this? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey