Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-17 Thread Bret Busby

On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Robert Kaiser wrote:


Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:17:16 +0200
From: Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Newsgroups: mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey, mozilla.support.seamonkey,
mozilla.dev.planning, netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey,
mozilla.dev.l10n
Followup-To: mozilla.support.seamonkey
Subject: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

The Mozilla community discovered a crash some of our users have been seeing 
at startup after updates to our previous releases. To fix that issue, 
SeaMonkey 2.0.8 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as a free 
download from www.seamonkey-project.org.


We strongly recommend that all SeaMonkey and old suite users upgrade to this 
latest release. If you already have SeaMonkey 2.0, you will receive an 
automated update notification within 24 to 48 hours. This update can also be 
applied manually by selecting Check for Updates... from the Help menu.


For a list of changes and more information, please review the SeaMonkey 2.0.8 
Release Notes.


Note: All users of the outdated SeaMonkey 1.x, Mozilla or Netscape suites are 
encouraged to upgrade to SeaMonkey 2.0 by downloading it from 
www.seamonkey-project.org.


Full news article:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-09-15

Downloads for all available platforms and languages:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

Release notes:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0.8

System Requirements:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/system-requirements

Robert Kaiser
SeaMonkey project coordinator



Is there any prospect of it being released as a .deb file (especially in 
the EN-GB version)?


I am currently using iceape
(Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U;
Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.14eol) Gecko/20070505 Iceape/1.0.9 
(Debian-1.0.13~pre080614i-0etch1))


as the latest version available for Debian 5.

I have previously found the .tar.gz files, simply too difficult to deal 
with, and am able to use only the package management

(eg, dpkg - i package name )
for installing and updating files.

Thank you in anticipation.

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..

So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means.
- Deep Thought,
  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
  The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
  A Trilogy In Four Parts,
  written by Douglas Adams,
  published by Pan Books, 1992


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Re: Education on User Agent Strings

2010-09-17 Thread Ray_Net

David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/16/10 2:46 PM, Beverly Howard wrote:

Way back in may Peter Potamus posted some user agent tips

  
Another option is to type in the address bar:

about:config

then right click on an entry and select New, String and
in the first box enter:

general.useragent.extra.xfake

change the xfake to anything you like

then in the next box put in:

not Firefox/2.0.0.20


Can someone help enlighten me on how the above works as I would have
assumed that the way to deal with it would have been to replace the
Seamonkey string with the firefox string.

While I have been using user agent switcher for a long time, the need to
spoof firefox has gotten so common, I need a default fix.

There appears to be no option in user agent switcher to set the
default other than by using about:config so, since it reverts to
default for each session, need to get educated.

Thanks in advance,
Beverly Howard


Manually setting preference variables to spoof Firefox permanently will
cause server logs to report the use of Firefox for ALL Web sites you
visit.  In the end, if this practice becomes widespread, it will cause
Web developers to think NO ONE is using SeaMonkey.

It is much better to use PrefBar or UserAgentSwitcher.  These provide
easy ways to spoof Firefox when necessary and then revert back to not
spoofing.
It's more simple to spoof everytime ... because we don't know when the 
spoof is needed.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-17 Thread M

Ubiquity wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-09-16 7:14 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-09-16 6:06 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:


Ty it yourself heck I can even make a screen shot of the the code
if I
open zip file I created of 2.0.7

look for this when you do about config

mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed.tags

html head title body p br div(lang,title) h1 h2 h3 h4 h5 h6
ul(type,compact) ol(type,compact,start) li(type,value) dl dt dd
blockquote(type,cite) pre noscript noframes strong em sub sup
span(lang,title) acronym(title) abbr(title) del(title,cite,datetime)
ins(title,cite,datetime) q(cite) a(href,name,title)
img(alt,title,longdesc,src) base(href) area(alt) applet(alt)
object(alt)
var samp dfn address kbd code cite s strike tt b i table(align)
caption
tr(align,valign) td(rowspan,colspan,align,valign)
th(rowspan,colspan,align,valign) wbr

I'm tired of people especially Chris That I am some type of Crackpot.

Check for this in the about config

this was in version 2.0.7

JoeS had a bug in on in TB and SM and I've commented on both. Go look
for the bugs yourself. If you think I have fuse about ready to Blow -
you not just kidding.


There is no pref called
|mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed.tags|.
I assume you're referring to
|mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed_tags|. That pref has been
part
of SeaMonkey/Thunderbird/Mozilla/Netscape for years. It allows you to
customize which tags are allowed when you set
View--Message_Body_As to
Simple HTML.
Seehttp://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/ChangeSimpleHTML,
http://ilias.ca/archive/netscape/mailnewsfaq/ChangeSimpleHTML.html.

I didn't call you a crackpot. I said that you have a tendency to
spread
misinformation. If you don't like it, back up your claims with links.


The same code is not in 2.0.6


Really? Here's a screencast:http://screencast.com/t/ZGNiMTNkO


and when I tried to send a test sound file
in a Newsgroup that allows such. I tried several times. Then I read a a
post about this sanitation code and what it was doing and looked for
there it is


Set View--Message_Body_As to Original HTML.


I keep that set to keep as set to original html. all the time.
I'll go to Bugzilla and see if I can locate the bugs I commented on the
I will post the bug number here.



Oh Phillip, don't you just love it! No Phillip, you're not dumb, you're
not stupid, or you're not an idiot. You know what you're talking about,
but the so-called experts sure don't.

To everyone else: Compose a new message, in html. Now, click on Insert,
HTML, and put the following script in the box:

iframe marginheight=0 marginwidth=0
src=http://newmail.monsterserve.com/keepout/movies/zip.wav;
type=audio/x-mpeg frameborder=0 height=16 width=144/iframe


then click on the insert button, save the message, then go into your
drafts folder, click on the message, then click on View, Message Source,
and tell me what happened to the html that you just put in.

Phillip, I think everyone owes you an apology, especially those
so-called experts.

Oh, by the way, in order to see what Phillip is talking about, make sure
you're using the newest seamonkey or thunderbird for this testing.



I just tried to embed using the above method in 2.0.7 and it does not work. Works perfectly on my 
laptop using 2.0.6. Regardless of what the code is called, Phillip is right you can no longer 
insert/embed HTML in 2.0.7. Few may use this feature and that is their choice but I too would like a 
choice.

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Re: Titles with accents [éàôïèù] desappearing in french newsgroups

2010-09-17 Thread Stéphane Grégoire
Hi,

Daniel a tapoté, le 15/09/2010 13:46:
 Yep, on the Path line of the previous post
 
 border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!news2.google.com!


I confirm in  Message-ID: 6asdnrijzpx2xrprnz2dnuvz_gsdn...@mozilla.org

Path:
border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!news2.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.mozilla.org!news.mozilla.org.POSTED!not-for-mail
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:01:29 -0500
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:01:29 -0600
From: Anne ann.guille[nospam]@gmail.com.invalid
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; fr;
rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100825 any computer


 
 Googletwice
 
 but your post that I am replying to now does not mention Google that I 
 can see!!


I think it's giganews who is using news2.google.com.

Anne has used news.mozilla.org.


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Re: SM 2.0.8 question

2010-09-17 Thread Keith Whaley

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Keith Whaley keit...@dslextreme.com wrote:

I use SM 1.1.18 for the Mac.
Is the translation to SM 2.0.8 as simple as downloading it and
installing it?
Have the makers and providers provided for as simple an installation
as that, or ... heaven forbid .. one must effect the move in stages
 and with attendant file manipulations.

 ?

Thanks for any insight. Id like to make the move, but at MY advanced
age I‘m not all that swift anymore, and usually opt for the simpler

way forward.

keith whaley



Before any answer, what version of the OS are you running?  SeaMonkey
2.x will not run on Panther, for example.

Lee


Mac OS 10.6.4.

keith

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Re: Education on User Agent Strings

2010-09-17 Thread Robert Kaiser

David E. Ross schrieb:

Manually setting preference variables to spoof Firefox permanently will
cause server logs to report the use of Firefox for ALL Web sites you
visit.  In the end, if this practice becomes widespread, it will cause
Web developers to think NO ONE is using SeaMonkey.


Not completely right, as the method describes here will still report 
SeaMonkey, it just will report Firefox _in addition_ to that.


And doing that will be the default from SeaMonkey 2.1 on, see 
http://blog.drapostles.org/archives/49


Robert Kaiser

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Re: SM 2.0.8 question

2010-09-17 Thread Leonidas Jones
Keith Whaley keit...@dslextreme.com wrote:
 Leonidas Jones wrote:
 Keith Whaley keit...@dslextreme.com wrote:
 I use SM 1.1.18 for the Mac.
 Is the translation to SM 2.0.8 as simple as downloading it and
 installing it?
 Have the makers and providers provided for as simple an installation
 as that, or ... heaven forbid .. one must effect the move in
   stages
  and with attendant file manipulations.
 
  ?
 
 Thanks for any insight. Id like to make the move, but at MY
   advanced
 age Im not all that swift anymore, and usually opt for thesimpler
 way forward.
 keith whaley
 
 Before any answer, what version of the OS are you running?  SeaMonkey
 2.x will not run on Panther, for example.
 
 Lee
 
 Mac OS 10.6.4.
 
 keith

Thanks!

The answer is yes and no.  SeaMonkey 2.0 stores it's profile data in a
different location then 1.1.x.  Therefore, the first time you run 2.0,
it will attempt to migrate your profile data.  In my experience, this
has been quite smooth, even with my oddball profile setup.  When it is
complete, your old profile will still exist in it's old location,
allowing you to transfer manually if there are any problems.

If you want to retain 1.1.x for awhile, just in case, either move it out
of Applications before installing 2.0 or install the new version to a
different location.

Lee
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-17 Thread Phillip Jones

M wrote:

Ubiquity wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-09-16 7:14 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-09-16 6:06 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:


Ty it yourself heck I can even make a screen shot of the the code
if I
open zip file I created of 2.0.7

look for this when you do about config

mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed.tags

html head title body p br div(lang,title) h1 h2 h3 h4 h5 h6
ul(type,compact) ol(type,compact,start) li(type,value) dl dt dd
blockquote(type,cite) pre noscript noframes strong em sub sup
span(lang,title) acronym(title) abbr(title) del(title,cite,datetime)
ins(title,cite,datetime) q(cite) a(href,name,title)
img(alt,title,longdesc,src) base(href) area(alt) applet(alt)
object(alt)
var samp dfn address kbd code cite s strike tt b i table(align)
caption
tr(align,valign) td(rowspan,colspan,align,valign)
th(rowspan,colspan,align,valign) wbr

I'm tired of people especially Chris That I am some type of Crackpot.

Check for this in the about config

this was in version 2.0.7

JoeS had a bug in on in TB and SM and I've commented on both. Go look
for the bugs yourself. If you think I have fuse about ready to Blow -
you not just kidding.


There is no pref called
|mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed.tags|.
I assume you're referring to
|mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed_tags|. That pref has been
part
of SeaMonkey/Thunderbird/Mozilla/Netscape for years. It allows you to
customize which tags are allowed when you set
View--Message_Body_As to
Simple HTML.
Seehttp://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/ChangeSimpleHTML,
http://ilias.ca/archive/netscape/mailnewsfaq/ChangeSimpleHTML.html.

I didn't call you a crackpot. I said that you have a tendency to
spread
misinformation. If you don't like it, back up your claims with links.


The same code is not in 2.0.6


Really? Here's a screencast:http://screencast.com/t/ZGNiMTNkO


and when I tried to send a test sound file
in a Newsgroup that allows such. I tried several times. Then I read a a
post about this sanitation code and what it was doing and looked for
there it is


Set View--Message_Body_As to Original HTML.


I keep that set to keep as set to original html. all the time.
I'll go to Bugzilla and see if I can locate the bugs I commented on the
I will post the bug number here.



Oh Phillip, don't you just love it! No Phillip, you're not dumb, you're
not stupid, or you're not an idiot. You know what you're talking about,
but the so-called experts sure don't.

To everyone else: Compose a new message, in html. Now, click on Insert,
HTML, and put the following script in the box:

iframe marginheight=0 marginwidth=0
src=http://newmail.monsterserve.com/keepout/movies/zip.wav;
type=audio/x-mpeg frameborder=0 height=16 width=144/iframe


then click on the insert button, save the message, then go into your
drafts folder, click on the message, then click on View, Message Source,
and tell me what happened to the html that you just put in.

Phillip, I think everyone owes you an apology, especially those
so-called experts.

Oh, by the way, in order to see what Phillip is talking about, make sure
you're using the newest seamonkey or thunderbird for this testing.



I just tried to embed using the above method in 2.0.7 and it does not work. 
Works perfectly on my
laptop using 2.0.6. Regardless of what the code is called, Phillip is right you 
can no longer
insert/embed HTML in 2.0.7. Few may use this feature and that is their choice 
but I too would like a
choice.


Glad some one doesn't think I am an idiot.

Now Chris Go do as Ubiquity said heck you don't even have to send it 
anywhere, except Draft.


just go into any newsgroup use mozilla general then create a test case 
insert sound or Video in to your test message. Then save it as Draft. 
Now go to Draft and view it.


I dare anyone else to try it. You have to have 2.0.7 or later.  To prove 
it should work install 2.0.6 and do the same thing name the file 
something different.  the view both.


I'm sticking with 2.0.6 until they provide a switch to turn this off or 
until someone comes up with  Hack to turn this off.


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Plugins

2010-09-17 Thread Gerd Schweizer
With my 2.0 Version SM always stopps when loading while asking, wether i 
want to download plugins. Because i don't want them, can i prohibit this 
question (not by downloading unliked plugins)?

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automatic upgrade without notice or (explicit) permission

2010-09-17 Thread Daniel Barclay

I've just been hit with SeaMonkey's automatic upgrade (from 2.0.7 to
2.0.8) even though the installer never said it was setting things up
for automatic upgrade, and I never explicitly gave permission for
SeaMonkey to make changes like that to my machine.

I don't recall--how do I reconfigure SeaMonkey not to automatically
install anything until I say so?

(A higher-level question:  (Unless I somehow missed a clear notification
at installation time,) why the heck was SeaMonkey changed to make
changes to the user's software configuration without explicit permission
and prior notification?  That is NOT trustworthy behavior.  I'd expect
that from Microsoft or Adobe or something.)


Daniel



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Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-17 Thread d...@kd4e.com

On this site:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/

... the pop-up window to fill out your E-mail address when
you've forgotten your password will not move or scroll to
bring the lower part of the pop-up into view.

What might be causing that, please?

I am using 2.0.8 in Limux.


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Re: automatic upgrade without notice or (explicit) permission

2010-09-17 Thread David E. Ross
On 9/17/10 7:39 AM, Daniel Barclay wrote:
 I've just been hit with SeaMonkey's automatic upgrade (from 2.0.7 to
 2.0.8) even though the installer never said it was setting things up
 for automatic upgrade, and I never explicitly gave permission for
 SeaMonkey to make changes like that to my machine.
 
 I don't recall--how do I reconfigure SeaMonkey not to automatically
 install anything until I say so?
 
 (A higher-level question:  (Unless I somehow missed a clear notification
 at installation time,) why the heck was SeaMonkey changed to make
 changes to the user's software configuration without explicit permission
 and prior notification?  That is NOT trustworthy behavior.  I'd expect
 that from Microsoft or Adobe or something.)
 
 
 Daniel
 
 
 

1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit  Preferences].

2.  On the Preferences window, select [Advanced  Software Installation]
under Category (on the left side).

3.  On the Software Installation pane, uncheck the Allow web sites to
install extensions and updates checkbox.

4.  Select the OK button.

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-17 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
d...@kd4e.com wrote:

 On this site:
 http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/
 
 ... the pop-up window to fill out your E-mail address when you've
 forgotten your password will not move or scroll to bring the lower
 part of the pop-up into view. 
 
 What might be causing that, please? 

It's the JavaScript that brings up the window. It is hardcoded to a
certain height (and width - centered), and if it doesn't fit in your
viewport, you must have a rather (vertically) short browser window. Lots
of toolbars?

There isn't anything you can do about it except make your browser canvas
taller.

 I am using 2.0.8 in Limux.

Limux?   :-)

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-17 Thread NoOp
On 09/16/2010 11:29 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
...
 
 Is there any prospect of it being released as a .deb file (especially in 
 the EN-GB version)?
 
 I am currently using iceape
 (Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U;
 Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.14eol) Gecko/20070505 Iceape/1.0.9 
 (Debian-1.0.13~pre080614i-0etch1))
 
 as the latest version available for Debian 5.
 
 I have previously found the .tar.gz files, simply too difficult to deal 
 with, and am able to use only the package management
 (eg, dpkg - i package name )
 for installing and updating files.

Talk to your distro maintainers...
http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=iceapesearchon=namessuite=allsection=all

Regarding .gz; simply follow the installation instructions:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/install-and-uninstall

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-17 Thread Philip Chee
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:27:19 -0400, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

 There isn't anything you can do about it except make your browser canvas
 taller.

open about:config
filter for:
dom.disable_window_open_feature.resizable

toggle it to true

Also worth looking at the other dom.disable_window_open_feature.*
preferences.

Phil

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Re: Odd shutdown symptom

2010-09-17 Thread NoOp
On 09/16/2010 06:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
 Leonidas Jones wrote:
...
 The security updates are recommended.
 
 I'll have to double-check, didn't recall there were any relevant 
 security patches in 2.0.6 thru 2.0.8

http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey20.html

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-17 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Philip Chee wrote:


On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:27:19 -0400, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


There isn't anything you can do about it except make your browser canvas
taller.


open about:config
filter for:
dom.disable_window_open_feature.resizable

toggle it to true

Also worth looking at the other dom.disable_window_open_feature.*
preferences.


See also
Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Scripts  Plugins
and check/uncheck boxes as desired.

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Re: Education on User Agent Strings

2010-09-17 Thread Beverly Howard

Thanks for the responses... eductional... and appreciated.

Beverly Howard
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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-17 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 Philip Chee wrote:
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 There isn't anything you can do about it except make your browser
 canvas taller.

 open about:config
 filter for:
 dom.disable_window_open_feature.resizable

 toggle it to true

(It was already true.)

 Also worth looking at the other dom.disable_window_open_feature.*
 preferences.
 
 See also
 Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Scripts  Plugins
 and check/uncheck boxes as desired.

Neither of you fellas looked at the page in question, did ya?  g
The pop-up window in question (click the Login link at the Fox News
page http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ that the OP supplied). Note it's
not the kind of window you're thinking about. Heck, it isn't a
window at all; it's a JavaScript display embedded right in the page
itself.

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Re: User Agent Switcher

2010-09-17 Thread Beverly Howard

Found it... thanks to David's response in another thread

edit/prefs/advanced/softwareinstalltion

check and add site to list.

Thanks,
Beverly Howard
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Re: Education on User Agent Strings

2010-09-17 Thread Beverly Howard

 http://blog.drapostles.org/archives/49 

Thanks... very interesting reading.

It certainly underscores my experiences using seamonkey and makes a lot 
of sense since I have come across very few users who are even familiar 
with the name.


 general.useragent.extra.xfake 

Still looking for some additional understanding of the use of a new 
about:config prefs entry such as the above and how to best impliment it.


As mentioned, I would have assumed that it would need to be added to the 
basic string that contains SeaMonkey but this suggestion seems to 
indicate that the above entry would be appended to the string and make 
it easy to find the edit later for editing or removal.


 ...due to Firefox’s popularity seem to frequently NOT be broken when 
and if we Added “Firefox/” to our UA string. 


Shouldn't the firefox version number be included?

And which version of firefox is best for compatibility with seamonkey 1 
and 2?


Thanks in advance,
Beverly Howard






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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-17 Thread Beverly Howard

 http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ 

Several parts of this page are completely unreadable on my system, due 
primarily to my need to use large font settings.


This is a classic case of the web designers being oblivious to the 
possibility that anyone viewing their site is using anything other than 
a computer that has had no changes such as font size increases and they 
are using ie as their browser.


...fortunately, I would have never visited this site had it not been for 
this thread ;-)


Beverly Howard


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-17 Thread Petr Voralek
   Hello!

  On 09/17/2010 08:29 AM, *Bret Busby* wrote, and I quote (in part):

 Is there any prospect of it being released as a .deb file (especially in 
 the EN-GB version)?
 
 I am currently using iceape
 (Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U;
 Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.14eol) Gecko/20070505 Iceape/1.0.9 
 (Debian-1.0.13~pre080614i-0etch1))
 
 as the latest version available for Debian 5.

  IceApe 2.0.8 is currently available in the unstable repository, BTW...

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-17 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Philip Chee wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

There isn't anything you can do about it except make your browser
canvas taller.


open about:config
filter for:
dom.disable_window_open_feature.resizable

toggle it to true


(It was already true.)


Also worth looking at the other dom.disable_window_open_feature.*
preferences.


See also
Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Scripts  Plugins
and check/uncheck boxes as desired.


Neither of you fellas looked at the page in question, did ya?g


I'm allergic to Fox Noise, sorry. I just took the OP's word for it that 
we were talking about a JavaScript popup.



The pop-up window in question (click the Login link at the Fox News
page http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ that the OP supplied). Note it's
not the kind of window you're thinking about. Heck, it isn't a
window at all; it's a JavaScript display embedded right in the page
itself.


That's what you say, but when I disable JavaScript in the browser, the 
page behaves the same way. I thought it was pretty cute that after a 
couple of CTRL-plusses to increase the font size, I could still use the 
scroll bars to view various parts of the main page, but the popup as 
you call it stayed put off the edge of the screen. Nifty trick.


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-17 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Philip Chee wrote:
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 There isn't anything you can do about it except make your browser
 canvas taller.

 open about:config
 filter for:
 dom.disable_window_open_feature.resizable

 toggle it to true

 (It was already true.)

 Also worth looking at the other dom.disable_window_open_feature.*
 preferences.

 See also
 Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Scripts  Plugins
 and check/uncheck boxes as desired.

 Neither of you fellas looked at the page in question, did ya?g
 
 I'm allergic to Fox Noise, sorry. I just took the OP's word for it
 that we were talking about a JavaScript popup.

The OP didn't know what kind of window it was...  :-)

 The pop-up window in question (click the Login link at the Fox News
 page http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ that the OP supplied). Note
 it's not the kind of window you're thinking about. Heck, it isn't
 a window at all; it's a JavaScript display embedded right in the
 page itself.
 
 That's what you say, but when I disable JavaScript in the browser, the 
 page behaves the same way.

Hmmm?  I get no login window at all, with JavaScript disabled - in three
different browsers. Are you sure you had it disabled? (Easy to do if you
use the PrefBar extension.) Are you clicking the Login link up in the
upper-right corner of the page?

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-17 Thread Leonidas Jones
Beverly Howard b...@bevhoward.com wrote:
 http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ 
 
 Several parts of this page are completely unreadable on my system, due
 primarily to my need to use large font settings.
 
 This is a classic case of the web designers being oblivious to the
 possibility that anyone viewing their site is using anything other
 than a computer that has had no changes such as font size increases
 and they are using ie as their browser.
 
 ...fortunately, I would have never visited this site had it not been
 for this thread ;-)
 
 Beverly Howard

Even so, it would be worth contacting Fox on this, explaining you
problem in detail.

It's an accessibility issue, and folks like that tend to be very
sensitive to that.  While you don't visit there, it might well help
others with similar issues.

Lee
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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-17 Thread JeffM
doc@ kd4e.com wrote:
I am using 2.0.8 in Limux.

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
Limux?   :-)

Well, he might not be using it, but it's a real thing.
It's a spin of Debian produced by the City of Munich
with an eye on mass migration off of Windoze
and other closed-source payware.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux
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