Re: When is the updated SeaMonkey v2.x coming?

2010-10-21 Thread WLS

Ant wrote:

On 10/20/2010 9:09 AM PT, WLS typed:


I see a new FireFox v3.6.11 is out. Where is the update for SM2? :) Does
it still have issues or something?

Thank you in advance. :)


Not using it right now, but mine updated yesterday.


Huh? How? I didn't get any updates when doing a manual check. I just did
one just now and got it. Earlier in the afternoon and this morning
didn't have any. :/


I started YaST, went to Software Management  Upgrades and there they 
were in the Mozilla repository.


WLS

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SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 Introduces New Features

2010-10-21 Thread Robert Kaiser

[re-sending as this didn't make it yesterday]

SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 is available for free download now in 8 languages 
and makes a huge list of new functionality available to a wider testing 
audience for the first time.
Please note that this pre-release version is still intended for testers 
only and might still show some problems in everyday use. As always, we 
appreciate any feedback you may have and encourage users to help us by 
filing bugs.


In addition to the changes in the alpha releases, this version features 
the following new improvements:

 - OpenSearch plugins are now supported and the default for web
   search.
 - Data Manager now unifies cookie, permission, password, and form data
   management.
 - Plugins now run in their own processes and don't take down the
   browser any more if they crash.
 - JavaScript is faster than ever with the new JägerMonkey engine.
 - Direct2D Hardware Acceleration is now on by default for Windows 7
   users, hardware accelerated layers are available on all platforms
   with known-to-work video drivers.
 - The HSTS security protocol and the proposed Audio Data API are
   available.

We welcome any and all discussions on this beta on our newsgroups, or 
you can even file a bug if you find one. Be sure to check our Known 
Issues prior to filing bugs.


SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 is available for free download from 
www.seamonkey-project.org. Once you have downloaded and installed this 
release, we'd like to encourage you to get involved in discussing and 
reporting problems as well as further improving the product.


Thanks for testing and helping us to make SeaMonkey even better!



Full news article:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-10-21

Downloads for all available platforms:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.1b1

Release notes, including Known Issues section:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1b1

System Requirements:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements

Robert Kaiser
SeaMonkey project coordinator

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Re: [SM 2.0.8] mail and news accounts cleanup?

2010-10-21 Thread Ray_Net

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

I was subscribing to a news service X, which shut down,
so I removed the Account via Edit - Mail  Newsgroup account settings
- Remove Account.
The Account disappeared from the account pane (left pane on mail  news
display) and from the Edit Mail  Newsgroups display window.
HOWEVER when I look at the files and folders where SM related stuff
is held, I notice that in the profile's News folder there are still
an X.rc file and an X.msf file and an X subfolder containig
a hostinfo.dat file. i.e. SM does not delete these when the X
account is deleted!
Is this by design? or may I delete these without danger, and are there
any other places where traces of X remain in hiding?


When developers neglect cleaning directories with old/unused/phantom 
files ... you can decide if this is by design. In my opinion, if it's by 
design  it's a bad design.


With my pc, i would look in C:\Documents and Settings\RAY\Application 
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\2pj2ffu1.default\pref.js to see if in 
this files stuff you removed did not exist anymore. Normally, this file 
is clean. If not, take great care if you want to removing items - some 
of them are numbered.


Anyway the phantom files of an deleted account can be securely removed.
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Re: When is the updated SeaMonkey v2.x coming?

2010-10-21 Thread Ant

On 10/21/2010 5:52 AM PT, WLS typed:


Ant wrote:

On 10/20/2010 9:09 AM PT, WLS typed:


I see a new FireFox v3.6.11 is out. Where is the update for SM2? :)
Does
it still have issues or something?

Thank you in advance. :)


Not using it right now, but mine updated yesterday.


Huh? How? I didn't get any updates when doing a manual check. I just did
one just now and got it. Earlier in the afternoon and this morning
didn't have any. :/


I started YaST, went to Software Management  Upgrades and there they
were in the Mozilla repository.


Oh, you got the prereleases.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 Introduces New Features

2010-10-21 Thread d...@kd4e.com

Are any of the new features Google-dependent?

May everything associated with Google be stripped from
SM 2.1 without ill-effect?


SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 is available for free download now in 8 languages
and makes a huge list of new functionality available to a wider testing
audience for the first time.
Please note that this pre-release version is still intended for testers
only and might still show some problems in everyday use. As always, we
appreciate any feedback you may have and encourage users to help us by
filing bugs.

In addition to the changes in the alpha releases, this version features
the following new improvements:
- OpenSearch plugins are now supported and the default for web
search.
- Data Manager now unifies cookie, permission, password, and form data
management.
- Plugins now run in their own processes and don't take down the
browser any more if they crash.
- JavaScript is faster than ever with the new JägerMonkey engine.
- Direct2D Hardware Acceleration is now on by default for Windows 7
users, hardware accelerated layers are available on all platforms
with known-to-work video drivers.
- The HSTS security protocol and the proposed Audio Data API are
available.

We welcome any and all discussions on this beta on our newsgroups, or
you can even file a bug if you find one. Be sure to check our Known
Issues prior to filing bugs.

SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 is available for free download from
www.seamonkey-project.org. Once you have downloaded and installed this
release, we'd like to encourage you to get involved in discussing and
reporting problems as well as further improving the product.

Thanks for testing and helping us to make SeaMonkey even better!

Robert Kaiser
SeaMonkey project coordinator



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 Introduces New Features

2010-10-21 Thread Jay Garcia
On 21.10.2010 10:36, d...@kd4e.com wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Are any of the new features Google-dependent?
 
 May everything associated with Google be stripped from
 SM 2.1 without ill-effect?
 
 SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 is available for free download now in 8 languages
 and makes a huge list of new functionality available to a wider testing
 audience for the first time.
 Please note that this pre-release version is still intended for testers
 only and might still show some problems in everyday use. As always, we
 appreciate any feedback you may have and encourage users to help us by
 filing bugs.

 In addition to the changes in the alpha releases, this version features
 the following new improvements:
 - OpenSearch plugins are now supported and the default for web
 search.
 - Data Manager now unifies cookie, permission, password, and form data
 management.
 - Plugins now run in their own processes and don't take down the
 browser any more if they crash.
 - JavaScript is faster than ever with the new JägerMonkey engine.
 - Direct2D Hardware Acceleration is now on by default for Windows 7
 users, hardware accelerated layers are available on all platforms
 with known-to-work video drivers.
 - The HSTS security protocol and the proposed Audio Data API are
 available.

 We welcome any and all discussions on this beta on our newsgroups, or
 you can even file a bug if you find one. Be sure to check our Known
 Issues prior to filing bugs.

 SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 is available for free download from
 www.seamonkey-project.org. Once you have downloaded and installed this
 release, we'd like to encourage you to get involved in discussing and
 reporting problems as well as further improving the product.

 Thanks for testing and helping us to make SeaMonkey even better!

 Robert Kaiser
 SeaMonkey project coordinator
 
 

Please bottom post, thanks.

Nothing in SM that I see that is Google-Dependent

What is it that you want to strip regarding Google?


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 Introduces New Features

2010-10-21 Thread Robert Kaiser

d...@kd4e.com schrieb:

Are any of the new features Google-dependent?


No, even though as with the previous search plugin solution, we have the 
Google search plugin set as the default, but you can easily set a 
different one in the preferences, just like before - just that the 
selection of other search providers you can install is now much larger 
as we support the same OpenSearch standard as other browsers.



May everything associated with Google be stripped from
SM 2.1 without ill-effect?


Just like with previous versions and just like with Firefox, you can 
surely do this. Mozilla would never make any of its products dependent 
on a single provide in a way that the user can't change it.


Robert Kaiser
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Re: PassWord Manager File For Backup?

2010-10-21 Thread Daniel Dawson
Hi, I'm the developer of Saved Password Editor.

Ken wrote:
 I am using SeaMonkey 2.0.8 and tried to install Saved Password 
Editor
 1.5.3 to my browser.  When I go to Manage Stored Passwords, I do NOT
 see the images that allow me to add new passwords.  (see Image 
Gallery
 at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/60265/) In fact,
 many of the passwords I have previously saved are NOT even present
 after
 installing the add on.  They appear again if I uninstall the add on.

That's very interesting. I've never heard of that happening.

 The add on says it works with SeaMonkey 2.0 - 2.1a3, which I read as
 it
 should work with my version.

That's correct. It *should* work with your version. In fact, it may 
even work with 2.2+, though I haven't tested that yet.

 Is there a problem with my version with
 this add on, or am I doing something wrong??  Thanks.

Please contact me by email (remove the nospam- from the given 
address) and explain in detail what you're seeing. Please provide 
screenshots if at all possible. Also, please tell me what operating 
system you're using and what other add-ons you have installed, as it's 
just possible there's an interaction that's causing problems. Thanks.
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Lost Address Book when installing 2.0.9

2010-10-21 Thread Peter Gillingham
Warning. When I Installed Seamonkey 2.0.9, I lost my Addressbook, and 
all mail. I understood these items would NOT be lost when upgrading. I 
have returned to 2.0.8. Pete.

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Re: PassWord Manager File For Backup?

2010-10-21 Thread Daniel Dawson
Daniel Dawson wrote:
 Please provide screenshots if at all possible.

I forgot to mention, if you haven't thought of it, you'll want to block 
out any passwords that might show in the screenshots. No one but you 
needs to see those. *Maybe* the usernames as well, if you're paranoid 
enough.
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[SM2.0.8] Mail folder naming oddity

2010-10-21 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj

SM 2.0.8, On a Windows 7 ultimate 64bit.
I created a new mail folder which I named sent_pre09-01-2010
However via Windows explorer I find that SM and/or the Operating
system has created a file named sent-pre09-01-20104556bf96
and its corresponding .msf file. Note the extra characters
4556bf96 in the created file name

Can anyone explain this file naming oddity?
Who's doing it?  How come?
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