Re: SeaMonkey Developer Meeting 2010. Day 1 Saturday 23rd October.

2010-10-25 Thread Ludovic Hirlimann

On 24/10/10 06:45, Philip Chee wrote:

On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 11:28:29 +0800, Philip Chee wrote:

https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/Developer_Meeting:2010:Conrep
Dinner and getting to meet people in real life for the first time and
find out how they really look like!


Day 1 reports are now up:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/Developer_Meeting:2010:Conrep#Day_01_Saturday_23rd_October_2010
Pictures:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleytys/sets/72157625227729320/with/5108972045/



So was the table speaking english or german :D ?


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Re: news.eternal-september

2010-10-25 Thread Walter



Walter wrote:

I know this is a mozilla support for seamonkey but...

I want to access some other support groups through
news.eternal-september.org and have joined the site. I cannot find how
to subscribe to any of the groups. Would somebody give me a hint where
to start.

Apologies for off topic query.

Walter.


OK. Thanks for the tips. I am set up now and have to decide which 
newsgroups I want to visit. First one will be comp.sys.cbm  Any other 
Commodore 64 fans here?


Walter.
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Re: news.eternal-september

2010-10-25 Thread Henry

Walter wrote:




Walter wrote:


I know this is a mozilla support for seamonkey but...

I want to access some other support groups through
news.eternal-september.org and have joined the site. I cannot find how
to subscribe to any of the groups. Would somebody give me a hint where
to start.

Apologies for off topic query.

Walter.



OK. Thanks for the tips. I am set up now and have to decide which 
newsgroups I want to visit. First one will be comp.sys.cbm  Any other 
Commodore 64 fans here?


Walter.


I have the following Commodore 64 gear for sale.  If you know anyone that 
wants it, please let me know.


Commodore 64 computer
Commodore 1541C disk drive
Star SL-10C printer
Vic 20 model 1600 modem
Sharedata Utility Cartridge
Fortronics  Cardio Inc  DC/1 tape drive
No monitor - I used TV
Commodore to TV converter
manuals, many books, various programs and diskettes

I have no idea what this equipment is worth, but I'll never use it
again and so would like to get it to someone that can use it.

My phone number is  651-426-4144
e-mail is  wa0...@arrl.net

Henry   WA0GOZ

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Re: SeaMonkey Developer Meeting 2010. Day 1 Saturday 23rd October.

2010-10-25 Thread Jens Hatlak

Ludovic Hirlimann wrote:

On 24/10/10 06:45, Philip Chee wrote:

On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 11:28:29 +0800, Philip Chee wrote:

https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/Developer_Meeting:2010:Conrep
Dinner and getting to meet people in real life for the first time and
find out how they really look like!


So was the table speaking english or german :D ?


In that order. :-)

Greetings,

Jens

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Re: news.eternal-september

2010-10-25 Thread W3BNR

On 10/25/2010 1:11 PM Henry wrote:

Walter wrote:




Walter wrote:


I know this is a mozilla support for seamonkey but...

I want to access some other support groups through
news.eternal-september.org and have joined the site. I cannot find how
to subscribe to any of the groups. Would somebody give me a hint where
to start.

Apologies for off topic query.

Walter.



OK. Thanks for the tips. I am set up now and have to decide which
newsgroups I want to visit. First one will be comp.sys.cbm Any other
Commodore 64 fans here?

Walter.


I have the following Commodore 64 gear for sale. If you know anyone that
wants it, please let me know.

Commodore 64 computer
Commodore 1541C disk drive
Star SL-10C printer
Vic 20 model 1600 modem
Sharedata Utility Cartridge
Fortronics Cardio Inc DC/1 tape drive
No monitor - I used TV
Commodore to TV converter
manuals, many books, various programs and diskettes

I have no idea what this equipment is worth, but I'll never use it
again and so would like to get it to someone that can use it.

My phone number is 651-426-4144
e-mail is wa0...@arrl.net

Henry WA0GOZ



Henry - the last time I saw any of those were at a Hamfest about 10 years ago 
where I took mine to sell.  All in all there were about 15 complete systems for 
sale by various hams.  At the end of the Hamfest they were all in a dumpster. 
No one took theirs home.


So, good luck in selling them.

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Re: email certificates

2010-10-25 Thread James

Phillip Jones wrote:

James wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

James wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

James wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

James wrote:

I set up SeaMonkey with certificates for each email account. The
major
problem is to get the certificates recognized in Thunderbird and
vice
versa. I keep getting the broken key symbol. Something similar
happens
on the other end.

The certificates are functional between the accounts I manage, but
I do
not have any external correspondents with other certificate 
enabled

email clients to extend my range of testing.

Unless I get a solution soon, I must abandon SeaMonkey. Has anyone
compiled a list of email certificate problems, with or without
solutions?


The same certificates will work just as good SeaMonkey as in
Thunderbird.
export your personal certificates (from Versign or thawte) to 
folder
(directory) on your hard drive. you will have to supply your 
password

used to create the certificate. and in some cases if you have
password
protected Thunderbird you'll have to supply that as well. When you
import into SM you have to supply those password(s) again.
Certificate meant for MS products will not work on Mozilla 
Products.

The certificate have to be customized by the company (Thawte /
Versign) for the email Client and the OS. But any customized for
Mozilla (or Netscape) works on any Mozilla Product.

You misunderstand. The certificates are properly installed and
working,
but a recipient that is using Thunderbird can not read encrypted 
email

sent to him and I can not read encrypted email received from him.
SeaMonkey to SeaMonkey works fine. SeaMonkey to or from Thunderbird
does
not work at all.


Oh you and he is supposed to send you public key to each other. The
public key that each other receives works with the private keys if
they fit you can talk. Go to Versign and look up Private key and
Public key also look in SeaMonkey's help.


We each have traded certificate and public key data, yet it does not
function. No help here. I am not a novice as I have been using email
certificates for years without problems until I migrated to SeaMonkey.
Unless I get a solution, SeaMonkey is history as far as I am 
concerned.


Excuse me, but did you address the issue Certificates meant for MS
products will not work on Mozilla Products?


The certificates worked in Thunderbird without problems. They do not
work in SeaMonkey. I presume my initial inquiry was too complex.
*Certificate encrypted emails from SeaMonkey to Thunderbird do not
decrypt. Certificate encrypted emails from Thunderbird to SeaMonkey do
not decrypt.* That is as simple as I can explain the problem. Does
anyone have a solution?

Since both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird are both Mozilla products, I do not
see how your reference applies. I do not use Micro$oft products unless I
require a function found there that is not available elsewhere. For
instance, I use Micro$oft Internet Explorer for those web pages that do
not function using any other browser. Another example is that I only use
Micro$oft Word when I must manipulate lists where tabs and paragraph
marks must be used in 'search and replace' operations as Open Office
does not support that function.
 How did you migrate the certificates did you do and export and then 
an import?


Yes, I exported the certificates from Thunderbird and imported them into 
SeaMonkey when I decided to migrate. The more I look at it, the more of 
a mistake that seems to be.

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Re: email certificates

2010-10-25 Thread James

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 10/24/2010 1:43 PM, James wrote:
   

Mark Hansen wrote:
 

On 10/23/2010 6:24 PM, James wrote:

   

I have been using email certificates for years. The only time I had
email certificate problems is when I started using SeaMonkey.

 

Have you considered using Enigmail? To be honest, I didn't even know
SeaMonkey had a built-in way to send/receive encrypted e-mail messages.

Enigmail provides this and has been working for me for years.

   

I have been looking at the documentation and found no reference to how
the other user would be able to use anything I sent to them encrypted.
Does each party need the same program? If so, then this application will
be severely limited as most of my correspondents that use certificate
encryption use Outlook, Outlook Express, or some other email client
program. My problem is with the Thunderbird user.

I will continue to look into this and I thank you for your suggestion.
 

 From what I understand, the encrypted e-mail message is done in an
industry-standard way, so anyone (with the correct public pgp key)
should be able to read it.

However, I don't know for sure. You might want to check with the author's
site. I'm sure he has an FAQ or is willing to answer questions, etc.

Good luck.
   
You make it seem as if you never sent or received an encrypted email 
using your method. If you had, you would know what each participant is 
required to have. Still, when I have time, I will continue to research 
Enigmail. So far it seems it will only work with Mozilla email client 
programs.

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Re: news.eternal-september

2010-10-25 Thread Walter

Hey, guys,

The Commodore is still alive. Have a look at:

 http://computers.shop.ebay.com/Commodore-/74945/i.html

W.




W3BNR wrote:

On 10/25/2010 1:11 PM Henry wrote:

Walter wrote:




Walter wrote:


I know this is a mozilla support for seamonkey but...

I want to access some other support groups through
news.eternal-september.org and have joined the site. I cannot find how
to subscribe to any of the groups. Would somebody give me a hint where
to start.

Apologies for off topic query.

Walter.



OK. Thanks for the tips. I am set up now and have to decide which
newsgroups I want to visit. First one will be comp.sys.cbm Any other
Commodore 64 fans here?

Walter.


I have the following Commodore 64 gear for sale. If you know anyone that
wants it, please let me know.

Commodore 64 computer
Commodore 1541C disk drive
Star SL-10C printer
Vic 20 model 1600 modem
Sharedata Utility Cartridge
Fortronics Cardio Inc DC/1 tape drive
No monitor - I used TV
Commodore to TV converter
manuals, many books, various programs and diskettes

I have no idea what this equipment is worth, but I'll never use it
again and so would like to get it to someone that can use it.

My phone number is 651-426-4144
e-mail is wa0...@arrl.net

Henry WA0GOZ



Henry - the last time I saw any of those were at a Hamfest about 10
years ago where I took mine to sell. All in all there were about 15
complete systems for sale by various hams. At the end of the Hamfest
they were all in a dumpster. No one took theirs home.

So, good luck in selling them.


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Re: news.eternal-september

2010-10-25 Thread W3BNR

On 10/25/2010 3:55 PM Walter wrote:

Hey, guys,

The Commodore is still alive. Have a look at:

http://computers.shop.ebay.com/Commodore-/74945/i.html

W.




W3BNR wrote:

On 10/25/2010 1:11 PM Henry wrote:

Walter wrote:




Walter wrote:


I know this is a mozilla support for seamonkey but...

I want to access some other support groups through
news.eternal-september.org and have joined the site. I cannot find how
to subscribe to any of the groups. Would somebody give me a hint where
to start.

Apologies for off topic query.

Walter.



OK. Thanks for the tips. I am set up now and have to decide which
newsgroups I want to visit. First one will be comp.sys.cbm Any other
Commodore 64 fans here?

Walter.


I have the following Commodore 64 gear for sale. If you know anyone that
wants it, please let me know.

Commodore 64 computer
Commodore 1541C disk drive
Star SL-10C printer
Vic 20 model 1600 modem
Sharedata Utility Cartridge
Fortronics Cardio Inc DC/1 tape drive
No monitor - I used TV
Commodore to TV converter
manuals, many books, various programs and diskettes

I have no idea what this equipment is worth, but I'll never use it
again and so would like to get it to someone that can use it.

My phone number is 651-426-4144
e-mail is wa0...@arrl.net

Henry WA0GOZ



Henry - the last time I saw any of those were at a Hamfest about 10
years ago where I took mine to sell. All in all there were about 15
complete systems for sale by various hams. At the end of the Hamfest
they were all in a dumpster. No one took theirs home.

So, good luck in selling them.



Although my Comodore64 is long gone, my Timex Z80 is still here and working.

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Java issue

2010-10-25 Thread user
I am running SM 1.1.19 and the latest version of Java, v22 on an XP 
machine sp3.


For the last three days I keep getting 2 error messages when trying to 
either access a particular web page that utilizes Java or try to run the 
Java test at java.com.  This is an example of a web page that generates 
the error messages- http://www.bigskyresort.com/Photos-Videos/Webcam.asp


The first error message states the plug in performed an illegal 
operation, restart browser  Clicking OK then generates another 
error message, the new Java plug in requires a more recent version of 
Firefox (version 3 or higher).  The site loads at this point but the 
Java app does not activate.


This site works from IE so it does not appear to be an issue with SM.  I 
have un-installed and reinstalled both SM and Java and done an extensive 
cleaning of the registry as well as deleted Java folders with data in 
them after the uninstall.


The only thing all this accomplished was to now cause the first error 
message to pop up when I start SM.  Everything else seems fine but this 
Java thing is driving me nuts.  I do not want to update SM to v2.x due 
to the incompatibility with Roboform which I use extensively.


Any ideas?
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Java issue

2010-10-25 Thread user
I am running SM 1.1.19 and the latest version of Java, v22 on an XP 
machine sp3.


For the last three days I keep getting 2 error messages when trying to 
either access a particular web page that utilizes Java or try to run the 
Java test at java.com.  This is an example of a web page that generates 
the error messages- http://www.bigskyresort.com/Photos-Videos/Webcam.asp


The first error message states the plug in performed an illegal 
operation, restart browser  Clicking OK then generates another 
error message, the new Java plug in requires a more recent version of 
Firefox (version 3 or higher).  The site loads at this point but the 
Java app does not activate.


This site works from IE so it does not appear to be an issue with SM.  I 
have un-installed and reinstalled both SM and Java and done an extensive 
cleaning of the registry as well as deleted Java folders with data in 
them after the uninstall.


The only thing all this accomplished was to now cause the first error 
message to pop up when I start SM.  Everything else seems fine but this 
Java thing is driving me nuts.  I do not want to update SM to v2.x due 
to the incompatibility with Roboform which I use extensively.


Any ideas?
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java issue

2010-10-25 Thread user
I am running SM 1.1.19 and the latest version of Java, v22 on an XP 
machine sp3.


For the last three days I keep getting 2 error messages when trying to 
either access a particular web page that utilizes Java or try to run the 
Java test at java.com.  This is an example of a web page that generates 
the error messages- http://www.bigskyresort.com/Photos-Videos/Webcam.asp


The first error message states the plug in performed an illegal 
operation, restart browser  Clicking OK then generates another 
error message, the new Java plug in requires a more recent version of 
Firefox (version 3 or higher).  The site loads at this point but the 
Java app does not activate.


This site works from IE so it does not appear to be an issue with SM.  I 
have un-installed and reinstalled both SM and Java and done an extensive 
cleaning of the registry as well as deleted Java folders with data in 
them after the uninstall.


The only thing all this accomplished was to now cause the first error 
message to pop up when I start SM.  Everything else seems fine but this 
Java thing is driving me nuts.  I do not want to update SM to v2.x due 
to the incompatibility with Roboform which I use extensively.


Any ideas?
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Re: Java issue

2010-10-25 Thread W3BNR

On 10/25/2010 6:05 PM u...@domain.invalid wrote:

I am running SM 1.1.19 and the latest version of Java, v22 on an XP
machine sp3.

For the last three days I keep getting 2 error messages when trying to
either access a particular web page that utilizes Java or try to run the
Java test at java.com. This is an example of a web page that generates
the error messages- http://www.bigskyresort.com/Photos-Videos/Webcam.asp

The first error message states the plug in performed an illegal
operation, restart browser Clicking OK then generates another
error message, the new Java plug in requires a more recent version of
Firefox (version 3 or higher). The site loads at this point but the Java
app does not activate.

This site works from IE so it does not appear to be an issue with SM. I
have un-installed and reinstalled both SM and Java and done an extensive
cleaning of the registry as well as deleted Java folders with data in
them after the uninstall.

The only thing all this accomplished was to now cause the first error
message to pop up when I start SM. Everything else seems fine but this
Java thing is driving me nuts. I do not want to update SM to v2.x due to
the incompatibility with Roboform which I use extensively.

Any ideas?


Works fine with Java 6.21 - Windows XP SE-3 - SeaMonkey 2.0.10pre

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Re: Java issue

2010-10-25 Thread W3BNR

On 10/25/2010 6:56 PM W3BNR wrote:

On 10/25/2010 6:05 PM u...@domain.invalid wrote:

I am running SM 1.1.19 and the latest version of Java, v22 on an XP
machine sp3.

For the last three days I keep getting 2 error messages when trying to
either access a particular web page that utilizes Java or try to run the
Java test at java.com. This is an example of a web page that generates
the error messages- http://www.bigskyresort.com/Photos-Videos/Webcam.asp

The first error message states the plug in performed an illegal
operation, restart browser Clicking OK then generates another
error message, the new Java plug in requires a more recent version of
Firefox (version 3 or higher). The site loads at this point but the Java
app does not activate.

This site works from IE so it does not appear to be an issue with SM. I
have un-installed and reinstalled both SM and Java and done an extensive
cleaning of the registry as well as deleted Java folders with data in
them after the uninstall.

The only thing all this accomplished was to now cause the first error
message to pop up when I start SM. Everything else seems fine but this
Java thing is driving me nuts. I do not want to update SM to v2.x due to
the incompatibility with Roboform which I use extensively.

Any ideas?


Works fine with Java 6.21 - Windows XP SE-3 - SeaMonkey 2.0.10pre



Noticed that Java 6.22 is out - installed it and the page still works fine.  I'd 
suggest you upgrade SeaMonkey to a later version.  2.1.9 is the latest

release.

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Re: email certificates

2010-10-25 Thread Mark Hansen
On 10/25/2010 12:46 PM, James wrote:
 You make it seem as if you never sent or received an encrypted email 
 using your method. If you had, you would know what each participant is 
 required to have. Still, when I have time, I will continue to research 
 Enigmail. So far it seems it will only work with Mozilla email client 
 programs.

Actually, I sent encrypted/signed message to and received from many
people. However, I don't know what they were using.
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Re: Java issue

2010-10-25 Thread stango

u...@domain.invalid wrote:
I am running SM 1.1.19 and the latest version of Java, v22 on an XP 
machine sp3.


For the last three days I keep getting 2 error messages when trying to 
either access a particular web page that utilizes Java or try to run the 
Java test at java.com.  This is an example of a web page that generates 
the error messages- http://www.bigskyresort.com/Photos-Videos/Webcam.asp


The first error message states the plug in performed an illegal 
operation, restart browser  Clicking OK then generates another 
error message, the new Java plug in requires a more recent version of 
Firefox (version 3 or higher).  The site loads at this point but the 
Java app does not activate.


This site works from IE so it does not appear to be an issue with SM.  I 
have un-installed and reinstalled both SM and Java and done an extensive 
cleaning of the registry as well as deleted Java folders with data in 
them after the uninstall.


The only thing all this accomplished was to now cause the first error 
message to pop up when I start SM.  Everything else seems fine but this 
Java thing is driving me nuts.  I do not want to update SM to v2.x due 
to the incompatibility with Roboform which I use extensively.


Any ideas?


I had the same problem running SM 1.1.19 when I upgraded to java 6.0_21 
on XP-SP3. My resolution was to go back to java 6.0_20, no more problem 
but I do not know the root cause of the error with 6.0_21 and up.



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Re: Java issue

2010-10-25 Thread plonked

W3BNR wrote:

On 10/25/2010 6:05 PM u...@domain.invalid wrote:

I am running SM 1.1.19 and the latest version of Java, v22 on an XP
machine sp3.

For the last three days I keep getting 2 error messages when trying to
either access a particular web page that utilizes Java or try to run the
Java test at java.com. This is an example of a web page that generates
the error messages- http://www.bigskyresort.com/Photos-Videos/Webcam.asp

The first error message states the plug in performed an illegal
operation, restart browser Clicking OK then generates another
error message, the new Java plug in requires a more recent version of
Firefox (version 3 or higher). The site loads at this point but the Java
app does not activate.

This site works from IE so it does not appear to be an issue with SM. I
have un-installed and reinstalled both SM and Java and done an extensive
cleaning of the registry as well as deleted Java folders with data in
them after the uninstall.

The only thing all this accomplished was to now cause the first error
message to pop up when I start SM. Everything else seems fine but this
Java thing is driving me nuts. I do not want to update SM to v2.x due to
the incompatibility with Roboform which I use extensively.

Any ideas?


Works fine with Java 6.21 - Windows XP SE-3 - SeaMonkey 2.0.10pre


Works with Java 6 v22 - XP SP3 - SM 2.0.9

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Re: Java issue

2010-10-25 Thread WLS

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

I am running SM 1.1.19 and the latest version of Java, v22 on an XP
machine sp3.

For the last three days I keep getting 2 error messages when trying to
either access a particular web page that utilizes Java or try to run the
Java test at java.com. This is an example of a web page that generates
the error messages- http://www.bigskyresort.com/Photos-Videos/Webcam.asp

The first error message states the plug in performed an illegal
operation, restart browser Clicking OK then generates another
error message, the new Java plug in requires a more recent version of
Firefox (version 3 or higher). The site loads at this point but the Java
app does not activate.

This site works from IE so it does not appear to be an issue with SM. I
have un-installed and reinstalled both SM and Java and done an extensive
cleaning of the registry as well as deleted Java folders with data in
them after the uninstall.

The only thing all this accomplished was to now cause the first error
message to pop up when I start SM. Everything else seems fine but this
Java thing is driving me nuts. I do not want to update SM to v2.x due to
the incompatibility with Roboform which I use extensively.

Any ideas?


Works fine with Java 6.22 - openSUSE 11.2 - SeaMonkey 2.1b2pre

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From TB 2.x -- SM ???

2010-10-25 Thread Michael Lueck

Greetings-

Just today I came to the thought that since moving to TB 3.x is undesirable, 
possibly moving from TB 2.x to SM would be a viable choice. Thus some questions:

1) How does SM do as far as supporting the extensions that TB does? As for the browser, I was able to install Ad-Block Plus into my SM profile, and that is as far as I have gone. I mainly install SM 
to get the Composer to clean up nasty HTML code and make it pretty.


2) How portable should TB 2.x profiles be headed over to SM?

3) Any documented steps for doing the migration? I am very comfortable working 
at the command line.

*) I am asking about this for use on Windows XP and also Linux via the official 
Mozilla builds installed via UbuntuZilla.

TIA!

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Lueck Data Systems
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Re: news.eternal-september

2010-10-25 Thread Ed Mullen

W3BNR wrote:


Although my Comodore64 is long gone, my Timex Z80 is still here and
working.



That is frightening.  Although, it probably can't start WWIII so, what 
the hell, enjoy!  :-)


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Moving profiles from XP to Win7

2010-10-25 Thread Zeb Carter
I am in the process of setting up a new computer for a friend of mine - 
old computer running XP Home, new computer Win 7. Both have SM 2.0.8.


I have created duplicate named profiles on the win 7 machine to match 
the XP machine. Working from a cloned copy of the XP drive, I have tried 
to copy the contents of the XP machine's profiles to their corresponding 
counterparts on the Win 7 system. Files are there but SM does not see 
the information there. In fact, of the 6 profiles, only one is actually 
working.


When I try and open the new profiles, I get the dialogue asking me to 
create the new mail/news/RSS account(s).


What am I doing wrong? I've copied the appropriate files into the proper 
locations but something is not working.


Thanks in advance!
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