Re: Java is Blocked again today
David E. Ross wrote: On 3/3/13 12:23 PM, Rickles wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 02/03/2013 15:51, question told the world: My wife has not used her computer this week.. So this explains why Java works on hers this morning..on pogo Block list has not been updated more in likely. Both computers are identical... But her JAVA is 7u10 Mine is 7u15 I told her not to update her Java . Reading the bugzilla. We are being Blocked Because FACEBOOK got hacked.. Could be FACEBOOK does not have Java Configured Correctly . So Ever other WEBSITE that uses JAVA has to Suffer Because The Almighty FACEBOOK's Security is not Enabled correctly . Let Facebook take care of itself . I think you misunderstood the issue. The problem is not that a few computers belonging to Facebook engineers got hacked; the problem is that this event demonstrates that: a) There is a bug in Java b) Which is ALREADY BEING EXPLOITED by hackers. If this exploit only affected Facebook, there would be no reason for worry. But the thing is, it DOES present a risk for EVERY user. Facebook can take care of itself, but most small users CANNOT. It's to protect those small users that the block has been implemented. So, for the moment, it's considered dangerous to have Java running automatically. Even if the latest exploit has been band-aided, the recent pattern of security problems with Java raises serious doubts about its overall security. Simply stated, Java is no longer worth the trust of Internet users -- until such a time as it can regain that trust, Mozilla opted to place it in the click-to-run category, which needs an explicit OK from the user every time it is invoked by a site. Staying with an older Java release won't help; if anything, it will be worse, since those older releases are bound to be even more emphatically blocked. You raise a point I'd appreciate clarification on: explicit OK from the user. The problem several of us have is that, when visiting a site which uses Java, we are not ASKED if it's OK to run Java, the site simply fails. Despite continually un- and re-installing Java to allow for 'clean' installs, certificate updates, etc., we're not being prompted to click a permissions dialog, we're simply A) told by the web site that we don't have Java running, or B) nothing happens at all. The current state of the Java 7u15 plugin states this plugin is known to have vulnerabilities, but nothing actually says it's blocked (at least on my machine at the mo.) In fact, the 'disable' button is available if I want to turn it off, which infers it's still running. But the Pogo web site now looks for Java before allowing a Java-based game to run, and it tells me I haven't got Java installed. And that's contradictory, based on the observed interface. When you go to a Web page that uses Java but the blocklist prevents Java from running, you should see an icon at the left end of the URI bar (address bar). The icon resembles a small Lego block. Click on that icon to get a pull-down menu to override the blocklist for that Web page. No, this is NOT intuitive and definitely NOT user-oriented. And no, I know of no way to undo the override. And THAT's what I hadn't seen before in any previous posts! Thank you for that head's up. At least it is site-specific, so the wife can carry on playing her games. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: adding profile manager to windows 7 desktop.
cqbrodie wrote: Thank you very much to Messrs Gallagher and Taylor for your solution. It was easy to do. However, in having the profile manager now on the desktop, when I click on any of the 3 additional users, it revert to the primary one only, and before on the XP version, each of the additional ones were separate and had their own default webpages. When I tried to add their respective email accounts using the first additional one, it became a sub-folder of the main account that's not what I would like to do. So again I would appreciate any guidance in how to solve this. regards Cliff Cliff, when you set up the three accounts, (Tools-Switch Profiles-Manage Profiles-Create Profile), on the second screen, where you gave the new profile a distinctive name, (on the same screen) did you also choose a different location (i.e. Choose Folder) for the new profile?? -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.16 Build identifier: 20130207001007 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Java is Blocked again today
Rickles wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 3/3/13 12:23 PM, Rickles wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 02/03/2013 15:51, question told the world: My wife has not used her computer this week.. So this explains why Java works on hers this morning..on pogo Block list has not been updated more in likely. Both computers are identical... But her JAVA is 7u10 Mine is 7u15 I told her not to update her Java . Reading the bugzilla. We are being Blocked Because FACEBOOK got hacked.. Could be FACEBOOK does not have Java Configured Correctly . So Ever other WEBSITE that uses JAVA has to Suffer Because The Almighty FACEBOOK's Security is not Enabled correctly . Let Facebook take care of itself . I think you misunderstood the issue. The problem is not that a few computers belonging to Facebook engineers got hacked; the problem is that this event demonstrates that: a) There is a bug in Java b) Which is ALREADY BEING EXPLOITED by hackers. If this exploit only affected Facebook, there would be no reason for worry. But the thing is, it DOES present a risk for EVERY user. Facebook can take care of itself, but most small users CANNOT. It's to protect those small users that the block has been implemented. So, for the moment, it's considered dangerous to have Java running automatically. Even if the latest exploit has been band-aided, the recent pattern of security problems with Java raises serious doubts about its overall security. Simply stated, Java is no longer worth the trust of Internet users -- until such a time as it can regain that trust, Mozilla opted to place it in the click-to-run category, which needs an explicit OK from the user every time it is invoked by a site. Staying with an older Java release won't help; if anything, it will be worse, since those older releases are bound to be even more emphatically blocked. You raise a point I'd appreciate clarification on: explicit OK from the user. The problem several of us have is that, when visiting a site which uses Java, we are not ASKED if it's OK to run Java, the site simply fails. Despite continually un- and re-installing Java to allow for 'clean' installs, certificate updates, etc., we're not being prompted to click a permissions dialog, we're simply A) told by the web site that we don't have Java running, or B) nothing happens at all. The current state of the Java 7u15 plugin states this plugin is known to have vulnerabilities, but nothing actually says it's blocked (at least on my machine at the mo.) In fact, the 'disable' button is available if I want to turn it off, which infers it's still running. But the Pogo web site now looks for Java before allowing a Java-based game to run, and it tells me I haven't got Java installed. And that's contradictory, based on the observed interface. When you go to a Web page that uses Java but the blocklist prevents Java from running, you should see an icon at the left end of the URI bar (address bar). The icon resembles a small Lego block. Click on that icon to get a pull-down menu to override the blocklist for that Web page. No, this is NOT intuitive and definitely NOT user-oriented. And no, I know of no way to undo the override. And THAT's what I hadn't seen before in any previous posts! Thank you for that head's up. At least it is site-specific, so the wife can carry on playing her games. Don't forget to cancel the Appointment with the Divorce Lawyers ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: adding profile manager to windows 7 desktop.
Daniel wrote: cqbrodie wrote: Thank you very much to Messrs Gallagher and Taylor for your solution. It was easy to do. However, in having the profile manager now on the desktop, when I click on any of the 3 additional users, it revert to the primary one only, and before on the XP version, each of the additional ones were separate and had their own default webpages. When I tried to add their respective email accounts using the first additional one, it became a sub-folder of the main account that's not what I would like to do. So again I would appreciate any guidance in how to solve this. regards Cliff Cliff, when you set up the three accounts, (Tools-Switch Profiles-Manage Profiles-Create Profile), on the second screen, where you gave the new profile a distinctive name, (on the same screen) did you also choose a different location (i.e. Choose Folder) for the new profile?? Cliff responded to me via e-mail:- Quote Thanks very much for your reply to my question about setting up profile manager on my new PC. What I did do, was to delete the least important user name in the group of 3 and then used profile manager to open a new user and I did not change the profile location and went thru the new setup and it worked. I suppose that did create a new folder. Then I did the same for the 2 remaining users. I presume you are in Australia. I'm in sunny northern California ( but somewhat cool to cold at night!) regards Cliff Brodie End Quote Yes, I'm in Australia, and it's been *very* sunny here for the past few months!! and bloody hot, too!! (apparently, we've just set a new record for days in a row with a top temp of over 35 degrees Celsius (97 degrees F) -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.16 Build identifier: 20130207001007 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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