Re: places.sqlite
Ant wrote: On 12/25/2014 10:06 AM PT, NoOp typed: Eureka! I found it! There were FOUR files all prefixed by places.sqlite including the original file. If I delete all four and copy in the places.sqlite from my Windows system to my Linux system, it works! I only have to copy that one file. Again, this wasn't necessary until 2.29 came along, so I wonder what changed?? Do not understand. I don't care how many files contain places.sqlite in their filenames, copying the specific fiel places.sqlite should do the trick. Just to make things clear, I ALWAYS shut down Seamonkey BEFORE I copy places.sqlite from the source system, and I ALWAYS shut down Seamonkey on the target system BEFORE I move over the copy. It didn't matter. I think the SHM and WAL files had to be in sync with the base file, or it ended up creating a CORRUPTED file and I had no bookmarks at all. Deleting ALL of the places.sqlite* files from the target directory before copying in the new places.sqlite does the trick. When I restart Seamonkey it has all of the bookmarks and history, and it recreates the SHM and WAL files. This was true for my copy of Firefox running under VirtualBox on my machine as well. Had to do the same there, too. Never had to do this before Seamonkey 2.29 so SOMETHING changed. You should file a bug report; the temp files places.sqlite.shm and places.sqlite.wal should be closed and removed when SeaMonkey shuts down. So you've most likely found a bug. See: https://www.sqlite.org/tempfiles.html 2.2 Write-Ahead Log (WAL) Files ... The WAL file is created when the first connection to the database is opened and is normally removed when the last connection to the database closes. However, if the last connection does not shutdown cleanly, the WAL file will remain in the filesystem and will be automatically cleaned up the next time the database is opened. 2.3 Shared-Memory Files ... The shared-memory file has the same lifetime as its associated WAL file. The shared-memory file is created when the WAL file is created and is deleted when the WAL file is deleted. During WAL file recovery, the shared memory file is recreated from scratch based on the contents of the WAL file being recovered. Follow-up: looks like someone already opened a bug report it got the wishy-washy RESOLVED WORKSFORME (aka 'Don't Know, Don't Care) treatment: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686237 (places.sqlite-wal and places.sqlite-shm not removed on exit) I reckon it's worth reopening (notice comment #2)... Can we easily reproduce this though? I only see these files if my web browsers are still opened. I'll need to see if my process is stuck after exiting. Hell I can recreate this at will on Ubuntu Trusty, Mint Qiana and Windows7 with Seamonkey AND Windows7 and WindowsXP with Firefox. Every single time I shut down the browser I'll find those -shm and -wal files in the profile directory. This didn't happen with SM 2.26 (and the equivalent level of Firefox). -- Jaime A. Cruz Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club http://www.nassauwings.org/ AMA District 34 http://www.AMADistrict34.com/ Pop's Run http://www.popsrun.org/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey 2.31 oddity under Ubuntu Trusty
I meant to mention this before but I found the places.sqlite issue more important. Prior to 2.31, whenever I'd launch Seamonkey under Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) I'd get two icons appearing in the launcher, the icon for the browser (the standard Seamonkey icon) and the icon for the Mail/News client (I have both launch by default) so it is pretty easy to switch from one to the other via the launcher. Also, if I opened a composition window, that would create another mail type icon in the launcher. Ever since 2.31, however, I only get one icon, and it is a generic gray icon with a question mark in the center. Both components are still active, and I can use those little icons in the bottom left hand edge of Seamonkey itself to switch, but if I'm using multiple workspaces I can't easily click back to where I want to go from the launcher. Clicking that generic gray icon will take me to the last Seamonkey window I was in; not specifically to the browser or E-Mail client. I know as a Linux (Ubuntu) user I'm in the minority here but has anyone else seen this? -- Jaime A. Cruz Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club http://www.nassauwings.org/ AMA District 34 http://www.AMADistrict34.com/ Pop's Run http://www.popsrun.org/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: places.sqlite
Ant wrote: I just upgraded my v2.26.1 installations to v2.31 in Windows XP Pro SP3 and Debian stable after making backups. Obviously, the newer SM web browsers crashed after the upgrade which everyone already reported. Heh. We'll see how this goes! I have not had any problem with crashing from SM 2.31, but I did not upgrade by doing the update. I always get the full installer for the next version and install manually. That has mostly been hassle-free, and it was this time. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Updating SM To Older Version
Geoff Welsh wrote: Ant wrote: Is there someway to update an existing and older version of SM to a newer version other than the latest version? I want to go from v.2.24 to v.2.30 without changing anything else. The update screen appears to only allow going to the latest version, v.2.31, something I don't want to do at this time. Thanks, in advance, for any and all advice and assistance. ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/ ... Avoid bs for betas. If you want v2.26.1, then use ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.26.1/ ... And, to make sure that SM doesn't keep trying to update you to the latest version, go to Edit-Preferences-Advanced-Software Installation and, under the SeaMonkey headers, de-select the Automatically download and install updates. Good idea and call. I always disable this feature. Now, if I could disable the darn reminder! mine never reminds me. I'm pretty sure one of the app.update.xyz preferences in about:config is why, but IDR/IDK which one it isthere's like 30 of them GW (on a OSX v10.6 Mac with SM2.23 right now) In about:config I set app.update.auto, app.update.enabled, and app.update.silent all to false, and I am never nagged or automatically updated. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: places.sqlite
On 12/26/2014 10:25 AM, EE wrote: I just upgraded my v2.26.1 installations to v2.31 in Windows XP Pro SP3 and Debian stable after making backups. Obviously, the newer SM web browsers crashed after the upgrade which everyone already reported. Heh. We'll see how this goes! I have not had any problem with crashing from SM 2.31, but I did not upgrade by doing the update. I always get the full installer for the next version and install manually. That has mostly been hassle-free, and it was this time. In my Debian (stable)/Linux box, I downloaded and extracted ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.31/contrib/seamonkey-2.31.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 file into my local ~/bin/sm2 directory. When I ran it, it did some funky checks and upgrades and then crashed. :/ -- I could crush him like an ant. But it would be too easy. No, revenge is a dish best served cold. I'll bide my time until... Oh, what the hell, I'll just crush him like an ant. --Mr. Burns, The Simpsons (Blood Feud Episode 7F22) /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Query - Security Message - You have requested an encrypted page that contains insecure information. Information that you see or enter on this page could be read by a third party
Security Message - You have requested an encrypted page that contains insecure information. Information that you see or enter on this page could be read by a third party SM Version: 2.31 OS: Windows 8.1 Pro x64 Seamonkey - Security Message - You have requested an encrypted page that contains insecure information. Information that you see or enter on this page could be read by a third party: Internet sites getting error message: https://tinychat.com/connectwith5d Conditions under which error message pops up: When i choose the 'Click here to complete a captcha to enable chat' link which then brings up another window: The message appears at the very top on the window in red Seamonkey - Security Message - You have requested an encrypted page that contains insecure information. Information that you see or enter on this page could be read by a third party: The following settings are as follows for 'Privacy Security' underneath SSL SSL Protocol Versions: SSL 3.0 - No tick TLS 1.0 - Tick TLS 1.1 - Tick TLS 1.2 - Tick SSL Warnings: Loading a page that supports encryption - No Tick Leaving a page that supports encryption - No Tick Sending form data from an unencrypted page to an unencrypted page - No Tick Mixed Content: Warn me when encrypted pages contain insecure content - Tick Don't load insecure content on encrypted pages - Tick Warn me when encrytped pages contain other types of mixed content - No Tick Don't load other types of mixed content on encrypted pages - No Tick The following settings are as follows for 'Privacy Security' underneath SSL SSL Protocol Versions: SSL 3.0 - No tick TLS 1.0 - Tick TLS 1.1 - Tick TLS 1.2 - Tick SSL Warnings: Loading a page that supports encryption - No Tick Leaving a page that supports encryption - No Tick Sending form data from an unencrypted page to an unencrypted page - No Tick Mixed Content: Warn me when encrypted pages contain insecure content - Tick Don't load insecure content on encrypted pages - Tick Warn me when encrytped pages contain other types of mixed content - No Tick Don't load other types of mixed content on encrypted pages - No Tick I tryed using the latest version of FireFox with https://tinychat.com/connectwith5d and there were no error messages at all, however, I went into firefox's security preferences, only i did not find any of the seamonkey equivelant security settings there at all, like settings for SSL, TLS, encryption, etc. I dont get it, I have been using seamonkey for at least 7-8 years now, i never liked firefox for 2 main reasons 1. It had a bug in it for over 5 years which prevented the bookmarks from being in alphabetical order. 2. Internet Explorer and Seamonkey both have one thing in common - they both have very very good long bookmark description line lengths. But anyway, does then ultimately mean that seamonkey is far superior to firefox when it comes to security ? After all, my understanding is that seamonkey browser side is based on code from firefox, while the email client side is a copy/duplicate of Thunderbird. Does anybody have an explanation, and is the site https://tinychat.com/connectwith5d safe to use or not. NOTE: I also use Vidalia, which is part of the Tor security suite that loads up automatically upon windows boot. Ben ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Query - Security Message - You have requested an encrypted page that contains insecure information. Information that you see or enter on this page could be read by a third party
In your Preference settings for SSL, do you have the Mixed Content Warning for Warn me when encrypted pages contain insecure content checked? Seems like it... Also look to see if Warn me when encrypted pages contain other types of mixed content is checked. -- - Rufus Ben wrote: Security Message - You have requested an encrypted page that contains insecure information. Information that you see or enter on this page could be read by a third party SM Version: 2.31 OS: Windows 8.1 Pro x64 Seamonkey - Security Message - You have requested an encrypted page that contains insecure information. Information that you see or enter on this page could be read by a third party: Internet sites getting error message: https://tinychat.com/connectwith5d Conditions under which error message pops up: When i choose the 'Click here to complete a captcha to enable chat' link which then brings up another window: The message appears at the very top on the window in red Seamonkey - Security Message - You have requested an encrypted page that contains insecure information. Information that you see or enter on this page could be read by a third party: The following settings are as follows for 'Privacy Security' underneath SSL SSL Protocol Versions: SSL 3.0 - No tick TLS 1.0 - Tick TLS 1.1 - Tick TLS 1.2 - Tick SSL Warnings: Loading a page that supports encryption - No Tick Leaving a page that supports encryption - No Tick Sending form data from an unencrypted page to an unencrypted page - No Tick Mixed Content: Warn me when encrypted pages contain insecure content - Tick Don't load insecure content on encrypted pages - Tick Warn me when encrytped pages contain other types of mixed content - No Tick Don't load other types of mixed content on encrypted pages - No Tick The following settings are as follows for 'Privacy Security' underneath SSL SSL Protocol Versions: SSL 3.0 - No tick TLS 1.0 - Tick TLS 1.1 - Tick TLS 1.2 - Tick SSL Warnings: Loading a page that supports encryption - No Tick Leaving a page that supports encryption - No Tick Sending form data from an unencrypted page to an unencrypted page - No Tick Mixed Content: Warn me when encrypted pages contain insecure content - Tick Don't load insecure content on encrypted pages - Tick Warn me when encrytped pages contain other types of mixed content - No Tick Don't load other types of mixed content on encrypted pages - No Tick I tryed using the latest version of FireFox with https://tinychat.com/connectwith5d and there were no error messages at all, however, I went into firefox's security preferences, only i did not find any of the seamonkey equivelant security settings there at all, like settings for SSL, TLS, encryption, etc. I dont get it, I have been using seamonkey for at least 7-8 years now, i never liked firefox for 2 main reasons 1. It had a bug in it for over 5 years which prevented the bookmarks from being in alphabetical order. 2. Internet Explorer and Seamonkey both have one thing in common - they both have very very good long bookmark description line lengths. But anyway, does then ultimately mean that seamonkey is far superior to firefox when it comes to security ? After all, my understanding is that seamonkey browser side is based on code from firefox, while the email client side is a copy/duplicate of Thunderbird. Does anybody have an explanation, and is the site https://tinychat.com/connectwith5d safe to use or not. NOTE: I also use Vidalia, which is part of the Tor security suite that loads up automatically upon windows boot. Ben ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Query - Security Message - You have requested an encrypted page that contains insecure information. Information that you see or enter on this page could be read by a third party
On 12/26/2014 1:20 PM, Rufus wrote: In your Preference settings for SSL, do you have the Mixed Content Warning for Warn me when encrypted pages contain insecure content checked? Seems like it... Also look to see if Warn me when encrypted pages contain other types of mixed content is checked. I always wondered about this. Is this something to worry about? -- The world flatters the elephant and tramples on the ant. --Indian /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Query - Security Message - You have requested an encrypted page that contains insecure information. Information that you see or enter on this page could be read by a third party
Ant wrote: On 12/26/2014 1:20 PM, Rufus wrote: In your Preference settings for SSL, do you have the Mixed Content Warning for Warn me when encrypted pages contain insecure content checked? Seems like it... Also look to see if Warn me when encrypted pages contain other types of mixed content is checked. I always wondered about this. Is this something to worry about? Depends on your security notification desires - in general, if I am navigating to a login page of any sort or a page that is supposed to be https:/ then that page and all subsequent *better* contain solely secure content and not mixed or other...or I abort the transaction. If you're doing any sort of secure transaction - like managing an account, making a purchase, etc. - then I should think a security conscious user would want to see these warnings. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: places.sqlite
In news:aladnuk3g-6azwhjnz2dnuu7-f2dn...@mozilla.org, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid wrote: Follow-up: looks like someone already opened a bug report it got the wishy-washy RESOLVED WORKSFORME (aka 'Don't Know, Don't Care) treatment: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686237 (places.sqlite-wal and places.sqlite-shm not removed on exit) I reckon it's worth reopening (notice comment #2)... c2 is an issue with using different SeaMonkeys on different OSes with a single profile directory. AFAIK, that's a use case that's never been supported, and I'd expect any bug filed about it would be marked INVALID or WONTFIX. For anyone sharing a profile across multiple OSes, vacuuming the database before each use should eliminate the issue. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: places.sqlite
On 12/26/2014 2:30 PM, »Q« wrote: Follow-up: looks like someone already opened a bug report it got the wishy-washy RESOLVED WORKSFORME (aka 'Don't Know, Don't Care) treatment: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686237 (places.sqlite-wal and places.sqlite-shm not removed on exit) I reckon it's worth reopening (notice comment #2)... c2 is an issue with using different SeaMonkeys on different OSes with a single profile directory. AFAIK, that's a use case that's never been supported, and I'd expect any bug filed about it would be marked INVALID or WONTFIX. For anyone sharing a profile across multiple OSes, vacuuming the database before each use should eliminate the issue. Hence, I think we need a new bug report. I don't think there is a bug report about these places.sqlite left overs issues with the newer versions? I can write it up later if it doesn't exist? -- Is this stuff any good for ants? No, it kills them. --unknown /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. A song (i/wa)s playing on this computer: e2 m2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Earthlink Home page Loading Incorrectly
Am using Seamonkey V2.31 on a windows 7 pc. When I launch my home page it loads badly misaligned. Many things are loaded page left. Other items load on top of each other! If I click reload the page does load correctly. This happens frequently. Not sure what to do at this point... thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Earthlink Home page Loading Incorrectly
Larry H wrote: Am using Seamonkey V2.31 on a windows 7 pc. When I launch my home page it loads badly misaligned. Many things are loaded page left. Other items load on top of each other! If I click reload the page does load correctly. This happens frequently. Not sure what to do at this point... thanks If reloading solves it, it's probably a cranky connection. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Earthlink Home page Loading Incorrectly
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Larry H wrote: Am using Seamonkey V2.31 on a windows 7 pc. When I launch my home page it loads badly misaligned. Many things are loaded page left. Other items load on top of each other! If I click reload the page does load correctly. This happens frequently. If reloading solves it, it's probably a cranky connection. It sounds to me more like he isn't loading the CSS file the first time. The statement loaded page left supports that. Can't say why, though; maybe if he gave a link to the page, it would become evident. I have run into a few sites like that in the past. -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Earthlink Home page Loading Incorrectly
Larry H wrote on 12/26/2014 7:41 PM: Am using Seamonkey V2.31 on a windows 7 pc. When I launch my home page it loads badly misaligned. Many things are loaded page left. Other items load on top of each other! If I click reload the page does load correctly. This happens frequently. Not sure what to do at this point... thanks No one here can help you without URL references. FWIW, I had no change in how my home page displays from one version to the next. So, post some URLs. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Earthlink Home page Loading Incorrectly
On 12/26/2014 4:41 PM, Larry H wrote: Am using Seamonkey V2.31 on a windows 7 pc. When I launch my home page it loads badly misaligned. Many things are loaded page left. Other items load on top of each other! If I click reload the page does load correctly. This happens frequently. Not sure what to do at this point... I assume http://www.earthlink.net/'s home page without logging in and going to other web pages. It looked fine in my v2.31 on a very old, updated Windows XP Pro SP3 machine. I even tried with and without AdBlock Plus. -- ... Our world is not an ant farm! --Duncan MacLeod (Highlander Season 3 Finale Part II) /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Query - Security Message - You have requested an encrypted page that contains insecure information. Information that you see or enter on this page could be read by a third party
Ben wrote: Security Message - You have requested an encrypted page that contains insecure information. Information that you see or enter on this page could be read by a third party https://tinychat.com/connectwith5d.. -(many lines of pref info)- But anyway, does then ultimately mean that seamonkey is far superior to firefox when it comes to security ? No, it means that SM has a lot more adjustability and FF is just set how it's set, which is to the most secure way as the developers see fit. Does anybody have an explanation, and is the site https://tinychat.com/connectwith5d safe to use or not. When I go to that site I get a message (from SM) across the top that says insecure (stuff) on this page was blocked and it has buttons to keep it that way or change it. When I /have/ seen the You have requested an encrypted page that contains insecure. message on sites in the past, however, I have from time to time, dug into the code and found it's usually a psuedo false alarm in the sense that, YES /some/ of the stuff on that page is from an insecure server but it's style sheet and image stuff, not the input form (or like) important stuff that deals with the password you type. On the odd occasion that I have seen that warning on PayPal I just purposely type everything wrong, and the next reload is usually straight-up https secure. as for TinyChat, I have no idea who uses it or why, but I would ask them if you are concerned GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Earthlink Home page Loading Incorrectly
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Larry H wrote: Am using Seamonkey V2.31 on a windows 7 pc. When I launch my home page it loads badly misaligned. Many things are loaded page left. Other items load on top of each other! If I click reload the page does load correctly. This happens frequently. If reloading solves it, it's probably a cranky connection. It sounds to me more like he isn't loading the CSS file the first time. The statement loaded page left supports that. Can't say why, though; maybe if he gave a link to the page, it would become evident. I have run into a few sites like that in the past. CSS was such a great idea until the traffic jams at the style sheet servers started! GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
