Re: SeaMonkey and Yahoo
David E. Ross wrote: Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 [old versions explained in signature] Has anyone else noticed that SeaMonkey seems to freeze when viewing Yahoo Web sites? I am getting this -- even in Safe Mode -- with finance.yahoo.com and news.yahoo.com. Nope, just checked Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1 -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Delay sending mail
Glen wrote: Inojim wrote: I'm wondering with Sea Monkey email (and this might apply to Thunderbird as well) if there is a way to prevent the program from instantly sending an outgoing message when you hit the 'Send this message now' button. Can the message be put in the Outbox and sent the next time Sea Monkey automatically retrieves incoming mail? I don't know how many times I've hit Send only to realize I forgot a recipient, changed my mind or whatever. Having a built-in delay would be nice. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/send-later-3/?src=search Thanks for this suggestion -- that's a useful extension that I wasn't aware of! I immediately began thinking how this concept could work even better. If Seamonkey is closed (or the computer crashes or is shut off), messages won't be sent by this extension. I need to close Seamonkey before leaving my office every day so that it will stop moving emails from my server to my office computer, so that interferes with how I might use this extension. I've found a couple of services that will forward your pre-written emails at a set time and date, even when your computer is off. (I've been using followup.cc to send myself 'take out the trash' reminders). But these messages don't look like they're coming directly from me, so it doesn't work for business communications. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Linux... Seamonkey and Sound...
In news:yq-dnrinyynx9qrinz2dnuu7-umdn...@mozilla.org, Daniel dan...@albury.net.spam.au wrote: On 22/04/15 13:01, Rinaldi wrote: sean decreed, Read These Runes!: *** fwiw, both my flash and pepperflash plugin/addons are up to day But that doesn't mean they are working as designed. Most of my sound problems come from *flash* not properly releasing the device when finished. ps auxw | grep flash next time your sound device isn't responding properly, then kill -9 the PID of the flash process. Here it's usually Seamonkey or Chrome that hung up. HTH Hey, Rinaldi, if I [daniel@localhost ~]$ ps auxw | grep flash I get daniel 11700 0.0 0.0 12160 668 pts/2D+ 19:31 0:00 grep --color flash [daniel@localhost ~]$ (Note: the flash following color is in a pretty pink colour!) I didn't think I had Flash installed! ps is a tool for listing info about running processes. All you've discovered is that when you run grep, grep is a running process. If Flash were running, it would show up on a separate line of the output. Rinaldi suggested ps because the OP does have Flash installed, and because a running Flash process might be causing the trouble. ps would let him find the process ID (PID) so he could kill it. But just checked SM Add-ons Manager an it's showing I have YouTube Flash Video Player 36.0 installed!! Is this working in place of normal Flash?? No, that's just an extension meant to force the use of Flash (as opposed to HTML5) on YouTube. Without Flash installed, you shouldn't need/want the extension. Should my sound be working, or not?? Sound *should* be working for everyone. ;) If you are having trouble with sound, better to start a thread of your own. If you're just curious about ps and/or grep, take it to m.general and I'll see what I can do (or better yet, Rinaldi might -- he knows a lot more than I do). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Linux... Seamonkey and Sound...
»Q« decreed, Read These Runes!: Rinaldi suggested ps because the OP does have Flash installed, and because a running Flash process might be causing the trouble. ps would let him find the process ID (PID) so he could kill it. I missed the change in posters , daniel v. sean. -- A sine curve goes off to infinity or at least the end of the blackboard -- Prof. Steiner ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Linux... Seamonkey and Sound...
Daniel decreed, Read These Runes!: On 22/04/15 13:01, Rinaldi wrote: sean decreed, Read These Runes!: *** fwiw, both my flash and pepperflash plugin/addons are up to day But that doesn't mean they are working as designed. Most of my sound problems come from *flash* not properly releasing the device when finished. ps auxw | grep flash next time your sound device isn't responding properly, then kill -9 the PID of the flash process. Here it's usually Seamonkey or Chrome that hung up. HTH Hey, Rinaldi, if I [daniel@localhost ~]$ ps auxw | grep flash I get daniel 11700 0.0 0.0 12160 668 pts/2D+ 19:31 0:00 grep --color flash [daniel@localhost ~]$ That appears to be the PID of the grep process. (Note: the flash following color is in a pretty pink colour!) I didn't think I had Flash installed! But just checked SM Add-ons Manager an it's showing I have YouTube Flash Video Player 36.0 installed!! Is this working in place of normal Flash?? I'm confused. You say earlier that you have flash and pepperflash installed. Should my sound be working, or not?? According to the output of the grep command there is nothing using flash in any capacity so I'd say it is something other than an addon if your sound was not working when you made the post. To see what is using your sound system you might try: sudo fuser -v/dev/snd/* This should provide (depending on your system's file structure) something like: $ sudo fuser -v /dev/snd/* USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC0: rinaldi1468 F kded4 rinaldi1656 F kmix /dev/snd/controlC1: rinaldi1468 F kded4 rinaldi1656 F kmix /dev/snd/seq:root 1208 F timidity Here that is normal output showing no problems. See what yours looks like. Sound problems can be fun to solve. Especially when it is sometimes working and sometimes not. That it works sometimes leads me to believe is is just a hung process. The problem is finding which one. -- I went to the museum where they had all the heads and arms from the statues that are in all the other museums. -- Steven Wright ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Can't Open Daily Beast
When trying to read articles on The Daily Beast web site, I encounter Oops. There was an error. Something is amiss. We're working to fix it. When I asked previously, answers were works for me. Interesting, but not helpful. This is the only site where I get this response, so there must be some extension or plug-in, or some preference setting, that causes the problem uniquely for this site. Does anyone have any insights as to what this site needs that I apparently don't have? All suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Larry S. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey and Yahoo
Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 [old versions explained in signature] Has anyone else noticed that SeaMonkey seems to freeze when viewing Yahoo Web sites? I am getting this -- even in Safe Mode -- with finance.yahoo.com and news.yahoo.com. -- David E. Ross I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can be used when autocomplete=off. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't Open Daily Beast
Larry S. wrote: When trying to read articles on The Daily Beast web site, I encounter Oops. There was an error. Something is amiss. We're working to fix it. When I asked previously, answers were works for me. Interesting, but not helpful. This is the only site where I get this response, so there must be some extension or plug-in, or some preference setting, that causes the problem uniquely for this site. Does anyone have any insights as to what this site needs that I apparently don't have? All suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Could something like a firewall or ad blocker be intercepting traffic? The site is definitely up and running normally. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: So what's going on in Seamonkey world?
Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 12:15:42 -0400, WaltS48 thalion...@evomeraim.com wrote: On 04/21/2015 11:57 AM, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 10:34:33 -0400, WaltS48 thalion...@removeaim.com wrote: On 04/21/2015 09:55 AM, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: Ahem:https://blog.mozilla.org/meeting-notes/archives/2149 I thought I already posted that with this quote. Release Train SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released on 23 March and is the most recent release. No scheduled ETA for 2.34 beta 1 yet – depends on fixing bug 1114876 Need to look at possibility of a further 2.33.x release if no 2.34 there were 15 security fixes (5 of which critical) in the Gecko 37 cycle so far next scheduled merge day is 11 May You did. But there is some deeper explanation in the meeting notes as to *what* the actual hold-up is. Meaning, all the stuff under the heading of Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree. - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] I also posted a link to the meeting notes, which probably nobody read. I think SeaMonkey should follow Thunderbird's lead and tie the releases to the Firefox ESR branch. Well, I know it's sacrilege to say it but maybe they should retire SM. - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] You're right. It is sacrilege! :( bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't Open Daily Beast
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Larry S. wrote: When trying to read articles on The Daily Beast web site, I encounter Oops. There was an error. Something is amiss. We're working to fix it. When I asked previously, answers were works for me. Interesting, but not helpful. This is the only site where I get this response, so there must be some extension or plug-in, or some preference setting, that causes the problem uniquely for this site. Does anyone have any insights as to what this site needs that I apparently don't have? All suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Could something like a firewall or ad blocker be intercepting traffic? The site is definitely up and running normally. Hmm . . . No ad blocker here. Wouldn't the firewall, if a problem, affect other sites as well? This is the only one with a problem. As a test, I turned off Block unrequested popups, but that made no difference. All plug-ins are either Always activate or Ask to activate. Not gaining on it yet, I guess, but thank you for the suggestions. Always worth exploring. Larry S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't Open Daily Beast
Larry S. wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Larry S. wrote: When trying to read articles on The Daily Beast web site, I encounter Oops. There was an error. Something is amiss. We're working to fix it. When I asked previously, answers were works for me. Interesting, but not helpful. This is the only site where I get this response, so there must be some extension or plug-in, or some preference setting, that causes the problem uniquely for this site. Does anyone have any insights as to what this site needs that I apparently don't have? All suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Could something like a firewall or ad blocker be intercepting traffic? The site is definitely up and running normally. Hmm . . . No ad blocker here. Wouldn't the firewall, if a problem, affect other sites as well? This is the only one with a problem. Depends on how the firewall is written. Modern software firewalls are based on rules, so if a rule applied to this site (or the way it's coded) but not to others, it wouldn't affect the others. The point is to filter out undesirable traffic, not all traffic. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Delay sending mail
Bill Spikowski wrote: Glen wrote: Inojim wrote: I'm wondering with Sea Monkey email (and this might apply to Thunderbird as well) if there is a way to prevent the program from instantly sending an outgoing message when you hit the 'Send this message now' button. Can the message be put in the Outbox and sent the next time Sea Monkey automatically retrieves incoming mail? I don't know how many times I've hit Send only to realize I forgot a recipient, changed my mind or whatever. Having a built-in delay would be nice. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/send-later-3/?src=search Thanks for this suggestion -- that's a useful extension that I wasn't aware of! I immediately began thinking how this concept could work even better. If Seamonkey is closed (or the computer crashes or is shut off), messages won't be sent by this extension. I need to close Seamonkey before leaving my office every day so that it will stop moving emails from my server to my office computer, so that interferes with how I might use this extension. I've found a couple of services that will forward your pre-written emails at a set time and date, even when your computer is off. (I've been using followup.cc to send myself 'take out the trash' reminders). But these messages don't look like they're coming directly from me, so it doesn't work for business communications. No need to thank me, I didn't write it, I just suggested it. :) To answer your question, see this: http://blog.kamens.us/send-later/#server-side According to the author of 'Send Later' it is possible to setup a server-side solution using the add-on, I just haven't done it myself since I feel comfortable (for the most part) leaving SM open while not around, so I can't say with certainty what the difficulty level is to do it. I did glance at the instructions, it looks quite easy to do, however. Here's a suggestion for you: Maybe use a spare computer and keep it locked with a password? It's just a thought. And as for added security, if you write to the same people all the time and are concerned about prying eyes, which it sounds to be and, imo, smart to be that way, you should maybe look into using Enigmail for SM. It's also a nice way to push your friends, family and clients (if applicable) into thinking more independently and protecting your private conversations, especially those people you communicate with on an on-going basis, regardless if it's 'secret information' being shared or not. I do have one caveat about using Enigmail: If you test or use Enigmail, you need to make sure you never, ever forget your pass phrase!! If you do, you are S-O-L. Other than that, I have yet to find an article telling me the encryption has been broken or any back-doors written in, so, in my eyes, it's a perfect way to give Big Brother (NSA) and it's cohorts (Google, Microsoft, Apple, etc, etc) the middle finger any day of the week, because now you're messages are completely private and encrypted from you until they reach your recipient and they decide to have them unencrypted using your password. So here's the link to the Enigmail Project: https://www.enigmail.net/home/index.php I hope it helps. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: So what's going on in Seamonkey world?
Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: Well, I know it's sacrilege to say it but maybe they should retire SM. Although it's my primary browser because it has a simple UI, it's supported voluntarily and gets nowhere near the support of FF or TB. Maybe it's just time. - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] Not as long as SeaMonkey is the only alternative Mozilla browser to Firefox for Mac OS. It works well enough and it does eventually get updated anyhow. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Delay sending mail
Glen wrote: To answer your question, see this: http://blog.kamens.us/send-later/#server-side According to the author of 'Send Later' it is possible to setup a server-side solution using the add-on, I just haven't done it myself since I feel comfortable (for the most part) leaving SM open while not around, so I can't say with certainty what the difficulty level is to do it. I did glance at the instructions, it looks quite easy to do, however. Here's a suggestion for you: Maybe use a spare computer and keep it locked with a password? It's just a thought. And as for added security, if you write to the same people all the time and are concerned about prying eyes, which it sounds to be and, imo, smart to be that way, you should maybe look into using Enigmail for SM. It's also a nice way to push your friends, family and clients (if applicable) into thinking more independently and protecting your private conversations, especially those people you communicate with on an on-going basis, regardless if it's 'secret information' being shared or not. I do have one caveat about using Enigmail: If you test or use Enigmail, you need to make sure you never, ever forget your pass phrase!! If you do, you are S-O-L. Other than that, I have yet to find an article telling me the encryption has been broken or any back-doors written in, so, in my eyes, it's a perfect way to give Big Brother (NSA) and it's cohorts (Google, Microsoft, Apple, etc, etc) the middle finger any day of the week, because now you're messages are completely private and encrypted from you until they reach your recipient and they decide to have them unencrypted using your password. So here's the link to the Enigmail Project: https://www.enigmail.net/home/index.php I hope it helps. Thanks again -- I'll investigate further! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Delay sending mail
Bill Spikowski wrote: Glen wrote: To answer your question, see this: http://blog.kamens.us/send-later/#server-side According to the author of 'Send Later' it is possible to setup a server-side solution using the add-on, I just haven't done it myself since I feel comfortable (for the most part) leaving SM open while not around, so I can't say with certainty what the difficulty level is to do it. I did glance at the instructions, it looks quite easy to do, however. Here's a suggestion for you: Maybe use a spare computer and keep it locked with a password? It's just a thought. And as for added security, if you write to the same people all the time and are concerned about prying eyes, which it sounds to be and, imo, smart to be that way, you should maybe look into using Enigmail for SM. It's also a nice way to push your friends, family and clients (if applicable) into thinking more independently and protecting your private conversations, especially those people you communicate with on an on-going basis, regardless if it's 'secret information' being shared or not. I do have one caveat about using Enigmail: If you test or use Enigmail, you need to make sure you never, ever forget your pass phrase!! If you do, you are S-O-L. Other than that, I have yet to find an article telling me the encryption has been broken or any back-doors written in, so, in my eyes, it's a perfect way to give Big Brother (NSA) and it's cohorts (Google, Microsoft, Apple, etc, etc) the middle finger any day of the week, because now you're messages are completely private and encrypted from you until they reach your recipient and they decide to have them unencrypted using your password. So here's the link to the Enigmail Project: https://www.enigmail.net/home/index.php I hope it helps. Thanks again -- I'll investigate further! no problem ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: frequent hangs
On 4/22/2015 4:02 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Is it just me, or are other folks experiencing frequent hangs in the Seamonkey browser? It seems like half the web pages I visit these days lead to spinning beachballs, 100% machine load, and often, the need to force quit and restart. Miles Fidelman See my message SeaMonkey and Yahoo in this same newsgroup. The problem seemed to disappear this afternoon. -- David E. Ross I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can be used when autocomplete=off. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: frequent hangs
David E. Ross wrote: On 4/22/2015 4:02 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Is it just me, or are other folks experiencing frequent hangs in the Seamonkey browser? It seems like half the web pages I visit these days lead to spinning beachballs, 100% machine load, and often, the need to force quit and restart. Miles Fidelman See my message SeaMonkey and Yahoo in this same newsgroup. The problem seemed to disappear this afternoon. For me, it's not just Yahoo - it's pretty much any site that loads lots of stuff from lots of places. It's been going on for multiple releases and seems to keep getting worse. Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey add-on-compatibility (Nightly ~ various extensions)
Rainer Bielefeld wrote on 20/04/15 00:00: Hi all, it would be great if some of you could share their experience with add-on compatibility. It would be a horrible work for a single person to leave comments on https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/AddonCompat SeaMonkey/AddonCompat for all the liste add-ons (and there might exist hundreds or thousands not listet there). But if lots of users only leave 1 comment / each that page might become a useful data base, soon. The core questions are: a) Is the original add-on (download from AMO) compatible? b) Is the compatibility rating on AMO page correct (sometimes you will find a warning not available for SM 2.33.1, but Installed Addon will work fine c) If not compatible, what minor or serious problems have been observed with what test environment? d) If original add-on is not compatible, does converted Version (see https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/AddonCompat work or what minor or serious problems have been observed with what test environment? e) Is a compatible (or alternative) add-on available, may be form other source than AMO? You can easily add your observations on the wiki page (it's not a problem to subscribe and to get an account). Or if you do not want to edit the page, you can add a posting here in the thread as I will do for an add-on in few minutes here. Come on, anybody here who will start with a statement concerning Automatic Save Folder 1.0.4 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/automatic-save-folder/? Thank you in advance and best regards Rainer Bielefeld Extensions are working and running on both, an 8 × Intel Core i7-920 / 16GB 3ch.DDR3 workstation PC, and an 4 × Intel Core i3-3240T / 3.7GB1ch.DDR3 desktop PC. kubuntu-linux 3.13.0-48-generic #80-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 12 11:16:15 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux English (United States) Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:40.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/40.0 SeaMonkey/2.37a1 ID:20150414045718 CSet: 64c2c682adb6 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:40.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/40.0 SeaMonkey/2.37a1 ID:20150422171601 CSet: 2436c290a3e3 calculator-1.1.32 https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/downloads/file/299148/calculator-1.1.32-sm+fx.xpi converted via http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/ works A1 and doesn't appear to be interfering with other SM functions. Konquefox 1.8.2 http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/?url=https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/konquefox/ works and does not seem to interfere with any other functions. Lightbird 0.3.4 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/lightbird/ conditionally works (given my limited-testing). PDF Viewer 1.1.26 does still work okay. PDF viewer 1.1.67 doesn't work.http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/?url=http://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/extensions/firefox/pdf.js.xpi or even directly from http://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/extensions/firefox/pdf.js.xpi Printing Tools 1.1.2 and 1.2.5 http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/?url=https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/downloads/file/275646/printingtools-1.2.5-tb.xpiboth work perfectly in this and recent trunk builds, so their behaviour bodes well, for future releases. (This extension strips headers from messages, i.e., only prints message-body text, etcetera.) SQLite Manager 0.8.3 https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/downloads/latest/5817/addon-5817-latest.xpi works for me. Word Count Plus 1.2.3 http://downloads.mozdev.org/wordcountplus/wordcountplus-1.2.3.xpi works for me, counts characters and words. Word Count Plus 1.3.0 http://wordcountplus.mozdev.org/betarelease.html doesn't work at all, an won't even install the status-bar-icon, that's needed to operate functions. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: frequent hangs
WaltS48 wrote: On 04/22/2015 08:56 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 4/22/2015 4:02 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Is it just me, or are other folks experiencing frequent hangs in the Seamonkey browser? It seems like half the web pages I visit these days lead to spinning beachballs, 100% machine load, and often, the need to force quit and restart. Miles Fidelman See my message SeaMonkey and Yahoo in this same newsgroup. The problem seemed to disappear this afternoon. For me, it's not just Yahoo - it's pretty much any site that loads lots of stuff from lots of places. It's been going on for multiple releases and seems to keep getting worse. Miles Fidelman What else do you have using bandwidth at the same time? Torrents, streaming music, Usenet downloads, automatically checking email often? I'm on 25mbps FIOS connection - bandwidth is not the issue. When I watch the process (Mac, Activity Monitor), I see frequent CPU loadings of 100%, and process not responding. I expect some of this is various cookies and widgets that are coupled to non-responsive sites, as well as pages with very inefficient JavaScript - but I expect a lot of it has to do with how SeaMonkey handles progressive page loading and parallel loading of content. -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: frequent hangs
On 04/22/2015 08:56 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 4/22/2015 4:02 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Is it just me, or are other folks experiencing frequent hangs in the Seamonkey browser? It seems like half the web pages I visit these days lead to spinning beachballs, 100% machine load, and often, the need to force quit and restart. Miles Fidelman See my message SeaMonkey and Yahoo in this same newsgroup. The problem seemed to disappear this afternoon. For me, it's not just Yahoo - it's pretty much any site that loads lots of stuff from lots of places. It's been going on for multiple releases and seems to keep getting worse. Miles Fidelman What else do you have using bandwidth at the same time? Torrents, streaming music, Usenet downloads, automatically checking email often? -- Kubuntu 14.10 | KDE 4.14.1 | Thunderbird 38.0 (Beta) April is Jazz Appreciation Month Go Bucs! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[Okay Now] Re: SeaMonkey and Yahoo
On 4/22/2015 8:12 AM, David E. Ross wrote: Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 [old versions explained in signature] Has anyone else noticed that SeaMonkey seems to freeze when viewing Yahoo Web sites? I am getting this -- even in Safe Mode -- with finance.yahoo.com and news.yahoo.com. Viewing Yahoo sites now seems to be working okay now. Between the last Yahoo freeze and the first Yahoo non-freeze, I did install some Windows 7 updates from Microsoft; but from the descriptions of the updates, I am not sure they had any impact on this problem. -- David E. Ross I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can be used when autocomplete=off. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey and Yahoo
David E. Ross wrote: Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 [old versions explained in signature] Has anyone else noticed that SeaMonkey seems to freeze when viewing Yahoo Web sites? I am getting this -- even in Safe Mode -- with finance.yahoo.com and news.yahoo.com. Works ok on my 22261. Hard to find anything worthwhile reading though. :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
frequent hangs
Is it just me, or are other folks experiencing frequent hangs in the Seamonkey browser? It seems like half the web pages I visit these days lead to spinning beachballs, 100% machine load, and often, the need to force quit and restart. Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Messages in junk folder -- formatting missing
Ant wrote: I assume it was designed that way to prevent malicious activities no phoning home with graphics on remote servers, disabled HTML, etc. I don't know of a way to disable it. That sounds reasonable. If I can't disable that behavior, I'll try to modify my filtering systems so those messages are routed differently. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Messages in junk folder -- formatting missing
Daniel wrote: On 21/04/15 23:17, Bill Spikowski wrote: Messages moved to my junk folder are often missing all their formatting. I'm wondering if this is considered a feature of Seamonkey? Or a bug? Or might it be caused by the messages themselves? I train SM's adaptive junk system to route all kinds of routine and commercial messages to my junk folder, not because I don't want to read them but because I don't want them popping up in my inbox while I'm working. I also use SM filters to route messages to my junk folder -- but this problem seems to happen to messages that are routed by SM's own junk system. This behavior isn't new, but it seems curious. If it's a feature, is there any way I could turn it off? Bill, I set up my SM to send any junk messages direct to the Trash folder (Edit-Preferences-Mail Newsgroups-Junk Suspect Mail) Maybe you can set your SM up similarly, and then filter your all kinds of routine and commercial messages to your junk folder for later perusal!! Note, depending on your set-up, if you do filter your junk direct to the Trash folder, they may be deleted when you next close SM! I use my junk folder for two separate purposes: to hold messages marked as junk by Seamonkey's adaptive system, and to hold messages that my custom filters send to junk for later perusal. This works for me; most true spam is removed by mail server before it comes into Seamonkey, so my junk folder ends up holding stuff that mostly I want to look at -- when I have some down time! I also have filters that send certain messages directly to trash; those are messages that a few spammers that manage to regularly evade my server's spam filter, so I'm OK, thrilled actually, with them disappearing automatically. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Linux... Seamonkey and Sound...
On 22/04/15 13:01, Rinaldi wrote: sean decreed, Read These Runes!: *** fwiw, both my flash and pepperflash plugin/addons are up to day But that doesn't mean they are working as designed. Most of my sound problems come from *flash* not properly releasing the device when finished. ps auxw | grep flash next time your sound device isn't responding properly, then kill -9 the PID of the flash process. Here it's usually Seamonkey or Chrome that hung up. HTH Hey, Rinaldi, if I [daniel@localhost ~]$ ps auxw | grep flash I get daniel 11700 0.0 0.0 12160 668 pts/2D+ 19:31 0:00 grep --color flash [daniel@localhost ~]$ (Note: the flash following color is in a pretty pink colour!) I didn't think I had Flash installed! But just checked SM Add-ons Manager an it's showing I have YouTube Flash Video Player 36.0 installed!! Is this working in place of normal Flash?? Should my sound be working, or not?? My -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Messages in junk folder -- formatting missing
On 21/04/15 23:17, Bill Spikowski wrote: Messages moved to my junk folder are often missing all their formatting. I'm wondering if this is considered a feature of Seamonkey? Or a bug? Or might it be caused by the messages themselves? I train SM's adaptive junk system to route all kinds of routine and commercial messages to my junk folder, not because I don't want to read them but because I don't want them popping up in my inbox while I'm working. I also use SM filters to route messages to my junk folder -- but this problem seems to happen to messages that are routed by SM's own junk system. This behavior isn't new, but it seems curious. If it's a feature, is there any way I could turn it off? Bill, I set up my SM to send any junk messages direct to the Trash folder (Edit-Preferences-Mail Newsgroups-Junk Suspect Mail) Maybe you can set your SM up similarly, and then filter your all kinds of routine and commercial messages to your junk folder for later perusal!! Note, depending on your set-up, if you do filter your junk direct to the Trash folder, they may be deleted when you next close SM! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: So what's going on in Seamonkey world?
On 21/04/15 23:55, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 20:06:43 +1000, Daniel dan...@albury.net.spam.au wrote: On 21/04/15 10:19, Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 18:53:55 -0400, Cruz, Jaime spamm...@bite.me wrote: Firefox has released version 37, 37.1 and now 37.2 but we haven't yet seen the Seamonkey release corresponding with Version 37. What's up? They are basically still getting the Visual Studio build environments up and running and building things right and there are just a few more pieces to go. Seamonkey is not high the priority list so it's going a bit more slowly. You can read that info here: https://blog.mozilla.org/meeting-notes/ Three Chicago Wolf, remember that SeaMonkey is developed by volunteers who have real, paying, jobs and families, etc., that may get more priory than SeaMonkey development. I'm grateful for any support they can provide. TCW, that link you provide is for Mozilla, not SeaMonkey the Agenda for tonight's (my time-zone, i.e. approx 2hrs on IRC irc://moznet/seamonkey) SeaMonkey Dev's meeting is shown at https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-04-14 Ahem: https://blog.mozilla.org/meeting-notes/archives/2149 - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] Yeap, It's right there in the link I posted ... Why don't I look at what I post?? :$ -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Linux... Seamonkey and Sound...
Cruz, Jaime wrote: sean wrote: for months now I've been struggling to keep sound working on my HP Pavilion G6 running peppermintOS linux. One day sound works in Seamonkey but not in the Chromium... the next day some links work in Chromium but not in Seamonkey... usually, depending upon the source of the sound or video clip it will work in one of these two browsers today its this link which works in neither browser http://www.kvoa.com/clip/11409366/demolished-grant-rd-homes-get-a-second-chance have a feeling its just the KVOA website only coding for windows would someone mind taking a gander at it before i set off on another sound triage mission... fwiw, both my flash and pepperflash plugin/addons are up to day Works just fine for me. Running Ubuntu Trusty 14.04.2 on a Thinkpad T410, all up to date with all software updates from the repositories. Worked with Chrome too (I don't have Chromium to test). Just tested on my HP Pavilion P7-1235... same software as on the ThinkPad (just different hardware). Works fine there too. -- Jaime A. Cruz Secretary Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club http://www.nassauwings.org/ AMA District 34 http://www.AMADistrict34.com/ Freddy's Run http://www.freddysrun.org/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
