Re: Forwarding email temporarily locks up system

2016-01-22 Thread Ed Mullen

DICK HOFFMAN wrote on 1/22/2016 12:56 PM:

On 1/20/2016 8:05 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:




Is your Gmail a POP acct?
Are you sure that your Elink port and security settings are correct?


I access my Gmail through the SM browser, which isn't POP I don't think.
As far as I can tell, the port and security settings are correct.
Dick


Open Mail, click Edit, Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings.  Go to your 
Gmail account and click on Server Settings.  That'll tell you if it's 
POP or IMAP.


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Re: Forwarding email temporarily locks up system

2016-01-22 Thread DICK HOFFMAN

On 1/20/2016 1:24 PM, DICK HOFFMAN wrote:

I'm posting this again because I've run out of ideas to try and maybe
someone out there has something new to suggest. It's hard for me to
believe that I'm the only one experiencing this given that my system is
pretty vanilla. I'm running SM 2.39 with no add-ons or extensions except
those that came with the SM version, on a Win 8.1 Pro system. My email
is a POP account with Earthlink. When I forward an email sometimes, but
not always, SeaMonkey locks up the system for about 90 seconds and I
cannot do anything but tell Windows to close SeaMonkey to get control
again unless I wait for those 90 seconds. During the lock-up I see a
small status window that says " Status: Mail sent successfully" and
which contains a green status bar that varies from 100% down to about
50%. The tiny blue arrow in the list of emails that indicates I've
forwarded this one is not posted until after the system becomes unfrozen
and the status window goes away. Forwarding inline or as an attachment
makes no difference and forwarding in plain text vice html also makes no
difference. I've tried running in "Safe" mode, and I've tried creating a
new profile and running under it to no avail. Very annoying. The problem
does not occur when I forward an email using Gmail. Should I post this
in Bugzilla?
Dick Hoffman


This problem is not limited to forwarding messages. It also happens, 
much less frequently, when I send a new message or reply to something in 
a newsgroup.

Dick
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Re: Forwarding email temporarily locks up system

2016-01-22 Thread DICK HOFFMAN

On 1/20/2016 8:05 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

DICK HOFFMAN wrote:

I'm posting this again because I've run out of ideas to try and maybe
someone out there
has something new to suggest. It's hard for me to believe that I'm the
only one
experiencing this given that my system is pretty vanilla. I'm running
SM 2.39 with no
add-ons or extensions except those that came with the SM version, on a
Win 8.1 Pro system.
My email is a POP account with Earthlink. When I forward an email
sometimes, but not
always, SeaMonkey locks up the system for about 90 seconds and I
cannot do anything but
tell Windows to close SeaMonkey to get control again unless I wait for
those 90 seconds.
During the lock-up I see a small status window that says " Status:
Mail sent successfully"
and which contains a green status bar that varies from 100% down to
about 50%. The tiny
blue arrow in the list of emails that indicates I've forwarded this
one is not posted
until after the system becomes unfrozen and the status window goes
away. Forwarding inline
or as an attachment makes no difference and forwarding in plain text
vice html also makes
no difference. I've tried running in "Safe" mode, and I've tried
creating a new profile
and running under it to no avail. Very annoying. The problem does not
occur when I forward
an email using Gmail. Should I post this in Bugzilla?
Dick Hoffman


Is your Gmail a POP acct?
Are you sure that your Elink port and security settings are correct?

I access my Gmail through the SM browser, which isn't POP I don't think. 
As far as I can tell, the port and security settings are correct.

Dick
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Re: Forwarding email temporarily locks up system

2016-01-22 Thread DICK HOFFMAN

On 1/20/2016 10:13 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

SameulS wrote:


I have similar issues regardless of who I send email to. I Am using
W10 and SM 2.39.

It also happens on my Vista machine too.

Can be annoying.


Have you checked your SMTP account settings? POP download settings have
nothing to do with how you /send/ mail.

Right. As far as I can tell, my SMTP settings are correct. Everything 
works fine, most of the time.

Dick
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Re: Spam Only On One Email Account

2016-01-22 Thread Sanpam

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Sanpam wrote:

My wife and I have separate SM email accounts, using Time Warner
Roadrunner. She gets lots
of spam emails, while I don't get any. What would cause this, and how
do I fix her account
to not get spam?


Does TimeWR have junk/spam filters for the acct?
My Verizon does.


I only see controls for blocking certain addresses in TW settings..
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Re: drag and drop in address book

2016-01-22 Thread Smiles

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Smiles wrote:

good day

I just upgraded to 2.35 and got my new school list.
running win7 64bit
If I take an email address in collected section it does not drag and
drop in to a folder in my address box have 40 address to move

any comments on a work around


Yeah, this is really frustrating. Can't copy/paste from "Collected
Addresses" either. The only thing that works is to manually recreate the
entries in the target address book.


has this been fixed in currant version
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Re: drag and drop in address book

2016-01-22 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Smiles wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Smiles wrote:

good day

I just upgraded to 2.35 and got my new school list.
running win7 64bit
If I take an email address in collected section it does not drag and
drop in to a folder in my address box have 40 address to move

any comments on a work around


Yeah, this is really frustrating. Can't copy/paste from "Collected
Addresses" either. The only thing that works is to manually recreate the
entries in the target address book.


has this been fixed in currant version


Don't know when it was fixed, but drag and drop work fine in 2.39. :-))

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Re: drag and drop in address book

2016-01-22 Thread Ed Mullen

Smiles wrote on 1/22/2016 5:46 PM:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Smiles wrote:

good day

I just upgraded to 2.35 and got my new school list.
running win7 64bit
If I take an email address in collected section it does not drag and
drop in to a folder in my address box have 40 address to move

any comments on a work around


Yeah, this is really frustrating. Can't copy/paste from "Collected
Addresses" either. The only thing that works is to manually recreate the
entries in the target address book.


has this been fixed in currant version


You mean the dried berry? :-)

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Re: Forwarding email temporarily locks up system

2016-01-22 Thread S Slicer

DICK HOFFMAN wrote:

On 1/20/2016 1:24 PM, DICK HOFFMAN wrote:

I'm posting this again because I've run out of ideas to try and maybe
someone out there has something new to suggest. It's hard for me to
believe that I'm the only one experiencing this given that my system is
pretty vanilla. I'm running SM 2.39 with no add-ons or extensions except
those that came with the SM version, on a Win 8.1 Pro system. My email
is a POP account with Earthlink. When I forward an email sometimes, but
not always, SeaMonkey locks up the system for about 90 seconds and I
cannot do anything but tell Windows to close SeaMonkey to get control
again unless I wait for those 90 seconds. During the lock-up I see a
small status window that says " Status: Mail sent successfully" and
which contains a green status bar that varies from 100% down to about
50%. The tiny blue arrow in the list of emails that indicates I've
forwarded this one is not posted until after the system becomes unfrozen
and the status window goes away. Forwarding inline or as an attachment
makes no difference and forwarding in plain text vice html also makes no
difference. I've tried running in "Safe" mode, and I've tried creating a
new profile and running under it to no avail. Very annoying. The problem
does not occur when I forward an email using Gmail. Should I post this
in Bugzilla?
Dick Hoffman


This problem is not limited to forwarding messages. It also happens,
much less frequently, when I send a new message or reply to something in
a newsgroup.
Dick
Gmail is a pain!  I have Gmail, and it took me quite a while to get the 
settings both on Gmail and SeaMonkey playing nice.  The best match for 
these two is using IMAP, then tinkering.  Start with adding a new mail 
account using IMAP, and deleting your current mail account.  I never 
have any problem with forwarding msgs.

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Re: Forwarding email temporarily locks up system

2016-01-22 Thread Ed Mullen

Daniel wrote on 1/22/2016 7:53 PM:

On 23/01/2016 5:02 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

DICK HOFFMAN wrote on 1/22/2016 12:56 PM:

On 1/20/2016 8:05 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:




Is your Gmail a POP acct?
Are you sure that your Elink port and security settings are correct?


I access my Gmail through the SM browser, which isn't POP I don't think.
As far as I can tell, the port and security settings are correct.
Dick


Open Mail, click Edit, Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings.  Go to your
Gmail account and click on Server Settings.  That'll tell you if it's
POP or IMAP.


Ed, Dick typed, above, that he access his Gmail through the SM Browser.
Why would he need to check his Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings??



He said he accesses Gmail via SM.  So, he has set up, like I have, an 
email acct. in SM to access Gmail.  He doesn't know if he set up a POP 
or IMAP acct and I told him how to figure that out.


Okay?


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Re: Forwarding email temporarily locks up system

2016-01-22 Thread Ed Mullen

S Slicer wrote on 1/22/2016 9:03 PM:

DICK HOFFMAN wrote:

On 1/20/2016 1:24 PM, DICK HOFFMAN wrote:

I'm posting this again because I've run out of ideas to try and maybe
someone out there has something new to suggest. It's hard for me to
believe that I'm the only one experiencing this given that my system is
pretty vanilla. I'm running SM 2.39 with no add-ons or extensions except
those that came with the SM version, on a Win 8.1 Pro system. My email
is a POP account with Earthlink. When I forward an email sometimes, but
not always, SeaMonkey locks up the system for about 90 seconds and I
cannot do anything but tell Windows to close SeaMonkey to get control
again unless I wait for those 90 seconds. During the lock-up I see a
small status window that says " Status: Mail sent successfully" and
which contains a green status bar that varies from 100% down to about
50%. The tiny blue arrow in the list of emails that indicates I've
forwarded this one is not posted until after the system becomes unfrozen
and the status window goes away. Forwarding inline or as an attachment
makes no difference and forwarding in plain text vice html also makes no
difference. I've tried running in "Safe" mode, and I've tried creating a
new profile and running under it to no avail. Very annoying. The problem
does not occur when I forward an email using Gmail. Should I post this
in Bugzilla?
Dick Hoffman


This problem is not limited to forwarding messages. It also happens,
much less frequently, when I send a new message or reply to something in
a newsgroup.
Dick

Gmail is a pain!  I have Gmail, and it took me quite a while to get the
settings both on Gmail and SeaMonkey playing nice.  The best match for
these two is using IMAP, then tinkering.  Start with adding a new mail
account using IMAP, and deleting your current mail account.  I never
have any problem with forwarding msgs.


Gmail is not a pain.  Never had an issue using it in SM.  Simple set up 
of an IMAP acct.


What's your problem?

What are you talking about having to delete a current account?


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Re: Forwarding email temporarily locks up system

2016-01-22 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Ed Mullen wrote:

Daniel wrote on 1/22/2016 7:53 PM:

On 23/01/2016 5:02 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

DICK HOFFMAN wrote on 1/22/2016 12:56 PM:

On 1/20/2016 8:05 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:




Is your Gmail a POP acct?
Are you sure that your Elink port and security settings are correct?


I access my Gmail through the SM browser, which isn't POP I don't
think.
As far as I can tell, the port and security settings are correct.
Dick


Open Mail, click Edit, Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings.  Go to your
Gmail account and click on Server Settings.  That'll tell you if it's
POP or IMAP.


Ed, Dick typed, above, that he access his Gmail through the SM Browser.
Why would he need to check his Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings??



He said he accesses Gmail via SM.  So, he has set up, like I have, an
email acct. in SM to access Gmail.  He doesn't know if he set up a POP
or IMAP acct and I told him how to figure that out.


The key phrase in his statement was "the SM browser." So he's using the 
webmail version of Gmail, not the POP version. Unless of course, that 
was a slip of the pen.




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Re: Spam Only On One Email Account

2016-01-22 Thread Ray Davison

Sanpam wrote:

My wife and I have separate SM email accounts, using Time Warner
Roadrunner. She gets lots of spam emails, while I don't get any. What
would cause this, and how do I fix her account to not get spam?


There are various estimates of the amount of mail traffic that is SPAM. 
 They are all over fifty percent.  In the early days we tried to filter 
out SPAM.  But you will always be in reactive mode.


Setting the junk flag and then deleting does train SM to set the flag 
for you.  Then go to Tools > Delete mail marked as junk.


Charter, in general does not filter incoming, and I do not want them 
deciding what I want and what I don't.  But if I resend an add to my 
wife's machine, Charter stops that.


So, I filter what I want to keep to a variety of folders and 
sub-folders, and that leaves the inbox mostly stuff I do not want, and 
is easy to deal with.  I now have about a hundred folders, and it is 
rare that any but the inbox get SPAM.


The fix for your wife's account, is to create a new account, get 
everyone using the new, and then delete the old.  That is not practical 
for me - too many senders to notify - so see above.


Ray


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Re: Spam Only On One Email Account

2016-01-22 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Ray Davison wrote:


Sanpam wrote:

My wife and I have separate SM email accounts, using Time Warner
Roadrunner. She gets lots of spam emails, while I don't get any. What
would cause this, and how do I fix her account to not get spam?


There are various estimates of the amount of mail traffic that is SPAM.
They are all over fifty percent. In the early days we tried to filter
out SPAM. But you will always be in reactive mode.

Setting the junk flag and then deleting does train SM to set the flag
for you. Then go to Tools > Delete mail marked as junk.


That last step may or may not be helpful; for me it's a waste of time.

Go to Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Junk & Suspect Mail

If you've enabled the setting
[x] When I mark messages as Junk:
(•) move them to the account's "Junk" folder
then as soon as you mark them, they're gone. No need to clean up the folder.

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Re: Forwarding email temporarily locks up system

2016-01-22 Thread Daniel

On 23/01/2016 5:02 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

DICK HOFFMAN wrote on 1/22/2016 12:56 PM:

On 1/20/2016 8:05 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:




Is your Gmail a POP acct?
Are you sure that your Elink port and security settings are correct?


I access my Gmail through the SM browser, which isn't POP I don't think.
As far as I can tell, the port and security settings are correct.
Dick


Open Mail, click Edit, Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings.  Go to your
Gmail account and click on Server Settings.  That'll tell you if it's
POP or IMAP.

Ed, Dick typed, above, that he access his Gmail through the SM Browser. 
Why would he need to check his Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings??


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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