Re: OT What do we call the various builds?? was Re: Which 64 bit version to use now?

[Daniel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 19/02/2019 3:26 AM:

FRG, just reading your comment that we should not use the SM
2.53_01-26 version but, instead, wait for the SM 2.53_02-11 build
 would it be reasonable to re-instigate the old B1 (i.e.
Beta1), B2, etc., nomenclature??


Changing the name wouldn't make a difference and might cause other 
problems. Basically all 2.53 versions are unofficial right now. You

can call them Release, Beta or whatever :) Before I push changes to
the queue Bill picks up I test them but sometimes something just
slips thru and I usually only test on Windows. So if you have a
stable version just tuck it away and if a later one break something
reinstall it and let me know.

FRG


Understood, FRG, and thanks to Bill for the work he does in making
"newer" versions of SM available.

I'm just looking at ways to distinguish one (test) version from another 
(test) version!


(and here am I, still using 2.49.1, worrying about naming practices for 
much newer versions!! ;-P )

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Re: "All humors aside… ;("

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On 2/18/19 1:49 PM, EE wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Personally I think eowng is always to harsh on himself. This is a big 
task where others do it with 10 or more people. Mozilla with a lot 
more...


While this is currently an uphill battle once it is done I expect 
future releases to go a lot smoother than today. Not having to cope 
with the daily lets reinvent the wheel mozilla infrastructure change 
makes things a lot simpler. And until then we still have Bills builds.


So cheers to ewong for not giving up! :)

FRG


Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2019/02/18/all-humors-aside/

A long read. :(


Excuse the ignorance, but what is Jenkins?



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Re: "All humors aside… ;("

[EE]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Personally I think eowng is always to harsh on himself. This is a big 
task where others do it with 10 or more people. Mozilla with a lot more...


While this is currently an uphill battle once it is done I expect future 
releases to go a lot smoother than today. Not having to cope with the 
daily lets reinvent the wheel mozilla infrastructure change makes things 
a lot simpler. And until then we still have Bills builds.


So cheers to ewong for not giving up! :)

FRG


Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2019/02/18/all-humors-aside/

A long read. :(


Excuse the ignorance, but what is Jenkins?

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Re: "All humors aside… ;("

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On 2/18/2019 10:30 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Personally I think eowng is always to harsh on himself. This is a big 
task where others do it with 10 or more people. Mozilla with a lot more...


While this is currently an uphill battle once it is done I expect future 
releases to go a lot smoother than today. Not having to cope with the 
daily lets reinvent the wheel mozilla infrastructure change makes things 
a lot simpler. And until then we still have Bills builds.


So cheers to ewong for not giving up! :)

FRG


Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2019/02/18/all-humors-aside/

A long read. :(


Truly a Herculean task. Cheers for EWong.
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Re: "All humors aside… ;("

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Personally I think eowng is always to harsh on himself. This is a big 
task where others do it with 10 or more people. Mozilla with a lot more...


While this is currently an uphill battle once it is done I expect future 
releases to go a lot smoother than today. Not having to cope with the 
daily lets reinvent the wheel mozilla infrastructure change makes things 
a lot simpler. And until then we still have Bills builds.


So cheers to ewong for not giving up! :)

FRG


Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2019/02/18/all-humors-aside/

A long read. :(



Also note that SeaMonkey needs to completely stop relying on Mozilla’s 
infrastructure (*every single thing*, including this blog, bugzilla… you name 
it.. we need to be off it) by end of the year.


Does that include this News Server?

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Re: "All humors aside… ;("

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Personally I think eowng is always to harsh on himself. This is a big task 
where others do it with 10 or more people. Mozilla with a lot more...


While this is currently an uphill battle once it is done I expect future 
releases to go a lot smoother than today. Not having to cope with the daily 
lets reinvent the wheel mozilla infrastructure change makes things a lot 
simpler. And until then we still have Bills builds.


So cheers to ewong for not giving up! :)

FRG


Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2019/02/18/all-humors-aside/

A long read. :(

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Re: View/Print PDF's

[NFN Smith]

Mr. Cheese wrote:
Not sure when it started but I can no longer view/print PDF's I may have 
to ditch SeaMonkey (been a user since newscape days)
Anyone know how to get around this problem before I take such drastic 
action?


I've never tried to use the built-in PDF reader in Seamonkey. I know 
that with most PDF readers, one of the offered options in installation 
is whether or not you want to run the reader from inside your browser, 
or not. That's how a plug-in works, where it's an external installation 
that makes itself available inside the browser.


At the moment, I'm running PDF-XChange, but I've had the same experience 
with Foxit.


If you're wanting to use the internal PDF tool and it's not behaving the 
way you want it, why would you have to abandon use of Seamonkey?


This issue is not a structural issue with Seamonkey, but it's something 
that's related to your profile. I don't know the details well, but it's 
possible that something could be mis-set with one of the variables in 
about:config, or that something isn't quite right in one of the 
supporting SQLite databases.


Have you tried launching Seamonkey in Safe Mode?  That will temporarily 
disable all your extensions, and also temporarily disable many (but not 
all) of your personal preference settings. Is this still a problem in 
Safe Mode?  I've also found that sometimes, a one-time launch in Safe 
Mode is enough to clear some problems of this nature. Also, what 
extensions and add-ons are you running?


If the problem goes away in Safe Mode, but then reappears when you do a 
normal restart, there's several things that you might do:


1) Check your extensions. If you have just a few installed, uninstall 
and reinstall -- problems of this nature can frequently be related to 
misbehaving extensions, and a fresh install of an extension can help.


2) If you have a lot of extensions, you can identify which extension is 
having problems either by disabling extensions one a time until the 
problem goes away, or by disabling everything, and then enabling one at 
a time until the problem returns. Or you can do a hybrid approach of 
disabling half of your extensions -- if the problem is there, then 
continue disabling extensions, or if the problem isn't there, start 
enabling extensions.  When you identify the problem extension, remove 
it, and/or reinstall.


3) One of the options of Safe Mode is to have Seamonkey do a reset.  If 
Safe Mode is clearing the problem, and it's returning when you restart 
in normal mode, I highly recommend this.


4) A more extreme approach to a reset would be with creating a new 
profile, where by definition, all your settings are default.  If you're 
using Seamonkey just as a browser, this isn't a big thing, as typically, 
the only thing you need from your old profile is likely to be your 
bookmarks. However, it's a little more effort to build a new profile 
when you're also doing mail/news, because you have to copy or redo your 
server configs, copy your mail stores and your contacts list, and that 
takes more poking at file level within your profile.


To re-iterate, the problem isn't a Seamonkey structural problem that can 
be fixed with coding.  It's something that you have to sort out in your 
user profile.




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Re: pdfjs is built into firefox--do we need pdfjs?

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David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/17/2019 6:07 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:

G. Ross wrote:

Mr. Cheese wrote:

Not sure when it started but I can no longer view/print PDF's I may have
to ditch SeaMonkey (been a user since newscape days)
Anyone know how to get around this problem before I take such drastic
action?

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Get the Foxit plugin.  And stop advertising AVG.



Since Firefox 19 pdfjs has been built in and FFox one no longer requires
pdfjs to be installed to view pdfs.

Does this mean that pdfjs is also built in to SeaMonkey as well? Do
users of SeaMonkey need to install pdfjs separately to view pdfs?



SeaMonkey does not contain pdf.js.  But it can be installed as an
extension.

Per my prior comment in this thread, however, PDF files can either be
displayed in the browser window or must be downloaded for viewing with a
non-browser application.  This depends on how a Web server is configured
and on how the PDF file is identified on that server.



Well, I was not happy with how Firefox - at work - displayed some PDFs 
so I configured it to use the external application.  I may then have 
misconfigured Seamonkey trying to avoid the same perceived problem.


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