Re: Transferring to Windows 10 system

[Daniel]

DoctorBill wrote on 04/01/20 02:26:

Daniel wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 03/01/20 02:58:

Daniel wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 02/01/20 17:09:

DoctorBill wrote:
Right now, as I write this, I am on a Windows 7 system using 
2.49.1 SeaMonkey.


I bought a Dell "All-In-One" compuker with the latest Windows 10 
running (Uggg!) and loaded

SeaMonkey 2.49.5.

Can I COPY my E-Mail, Bookmarks, Passwords, etc from this machine 
to the newer one ?
It has been YEARS since I did such a thing and I don't remember 
how.


Things are changing so fast !

DoctorBill


I bought a used DELL "All-In-One" compuker with Windows 10 
installed (Business Office Machine) and updated to the latest version.

I must say - after having it for about two weeks or so, I LIKE IT !
Windows 10 that is...   Took some getting used to, but it is 
great !

I still have an OLD LENOVO 8922-5WU LapTop with Windows XP on it  and
my old HP G60 LapTop with Windows 7 on it FOR older 
GAMES mostly.


I turned "Automatic Update" OFF on both so that MicroSoft can't 
"Kill" the older versions if they ever somehow get connected to the 
Internet.

Been told that MicroSoft will eventually DO THAT !

Will I have to go to FireFox ?  I keep getting messages that 
SeaMonkey is "OUTDATED" -

EVEN THOUGH I HAVE THE LATEST UPDATE on the Windows 10 machine

DoctorBill

DocBill, looking at your UserAgent, it indicates that you posted 
this with SeaMonkey 2.49.1


This is not the latest version ... that would be 2.49.5 although 
there are even later (trial) versions out there


Go to https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ to get the latest 
(approved) version for your OS. ;-P


And note that because even the latest SeaMonkey version advertises 
itself as based on FireFox V 52, some/many sites will still suggest 
it is a very old Version.



.
I come to this NewsGroup FROM either THIS old HP Business Computer using
Windows 7 using 2.49.1
OR
My DELL "All-In-One" used business compuker using Windows 10 and 2.49.5.
Two different SeaMonkeys depending on which I am using AT THE TIME.


I can relate to this, Bill!

I dual boot this HP Laptop. On Windows 7, I have installed SeaMonkey 
2.49.5. On my Linux installation, I have SeaMonkey 2.49.1 - I've 
downloaded the 2.49.5 and I will get around to updating  one day! ;-P



I am NOW on the old HP with Win 7.  I downloaded 2.49.5 but have not
run it yet.  All the 'extras' (extensions and Plugins) that I have on 
this 2.49.1

will have to be re-setup  on the 2.49.5.a PITA !
As time goes on, I forget HOW to do all that - (I'm 76) and struggle 
with "Keeping Up"

with all the new changes.  Ignorance is expensive.

Thanks for the suggestion and comments.
How can the 2.49.5 be made to spoof with the new FireFox V52 
recognition signal ?


Two ways ... either, first, in your Preferences 
(Edit->Preferences->Advanced) and tick the box to Advertise Firefox 
compatibility. That will tell every website you go to that your 
program is like Firefox


But, it will still mention SeaMonkey, and some sites will be confused 
by this so they still will not work, so 


Second, in the web browser part of SeaMonkey type "about:config" 
(without the inverted commas), accept the warning and then type 
'Useragent' in the Search: line. That will just leave those 
preferences that include the word useragent. One of those will be 
'general.useragent.compatMode.firefox'. Double click on that 
preference will change the 'Value' from 'false' to 'true'.


Additionally, if there is a particular website that is causing 
problems (often banking sites), in this config page, you can add a 
preference that would apply only to that particular website and set it 
to 'spoof' Firefox only just for that website, but I'm unsure how to 
enter a new preference like this.


Maybe someone else will suggest how to do that.

And it just occurred to me that there is a third method of changing 
the Preferences ... by setting up a preference that applies only to 
that particular website and saving that/those preferences in a *TEXT* 
file called UserConfig and saving that file in the same location as 
your Preferences file. This method allows you to add comments against 
each preference that you add/change so that you can know why you did 
that  when your memory fails you! ;-)


You can check out the available preferences at ... 
http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries



DoctorBill (still trying !)


Keep on trying, Doc!


I have all that you suggested running.  No "Text" though
Some site still don't like my system.

Thanks !


I guess nothing is perfect, some people will always think that they know 
what you want to do better than you! ;-P

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Daniel

Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

Re: Transferring to Windows 10 system

[DoctorBill]

Daniel wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 03/01/20 02:58:

Daniel wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 02/01/20 17:09:

DoctorBill wrote:
Right now, as I write this, I am on a Windows 7 system using 2.49.1 
SeaMonkey.


I bought a Dell "All-In-One" compuker with the latest Windows 10 
running (Uggg!) and loaded

SeaMonkey 2.49.5.

Can I COPY my E-Mail, Bookmarks, Passwords, etc from this machine 
to the newer one ?
It has been YEARS since I did such a thing and I don't remember 
how.


Things are changing so fast !

DoctorBill


I bought a used DELL "All-In-One" compuker with Windows 10 installed 
(Business Office Machine) and updated to the latest version.

I must say - after having it for about two weeks or so, I LIKE IT !
Windows 10 that is...   Took some getting used to, but it is 
great !

I still have an OLD LENOVO 8922-5WU LapTop with Windows XP on it  and
my old HP G60 LapTop with Windows 7 on it FOR older 
GAMES mostly.


I turned "Automatic Update" OFF on both so that MicroSoft can't 
"Kill" the older versions if they ever somehow get connected to the 
Internet.

Been told that MicroSoft will eventually DO THAT !

Will I have to go to FireFox ?  I keep getting messages that 
SeaMonkey is "OUTDATED" -

EVEN THOUGH I HAVE THE LATEST UPDATE on the Windows 10 machine

DoctorBill

DocBill, looking at your UserAgent, it indicates that you posted this 
with SeaMonkey 2.49.1


This is not the latest version ... that would be 2.49.5 although 
there are even later (trial) versions out there


Go to https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ to get the latest (approved) 
version for your OS. ;-P


And note that because even the latest SeaMonkey version advertises 
itself as based on FireFox V 52, some/many sites will still suggest 
it is a very old Version.



.
I come to this NewsGroup FROM either THIS old HP Business Computer using
Windows 7 using 2.49.1
OR
My DELL "All-In-One" used business compuker using Windows 10 and 2.49.5.
Two different SeaMonkeys depending on which I am using AT THE TIME.


I can relate to this, Bill!

I dual boot this HP Laptop. On Windows 7, I have installed SeaMonkey 
2.49.5. On my Linux installation, I have SeaMonkey 2.49.1 - I've 
downloaded the 2.49.5 and I will get around to updating  one day! ;-P



I am NOW on the old HP with Win 7.  I downloaded 2.49.5 but have not
run it yet.  All the 'extras' (extensions and Plugins) that I have on 
this 2.49.1

will have to be re-setup  on the 2.49.5.a PITA !
As time goes on, I forget HOW to do all that - (I'm 76) and struggle 
with "Keeping Up"

with all the new changes.  Ignorance is expensive.

Thanks for the suggestion and comments.
How can the 2.49.5 be made to spoof with the new FireFox V52 
recognition signal ?


Two ways ... either, first, in your Preferences 
(Edit->Preferences->Advanced) and tick the box to Advertise Firefox 
compatibility. That will tell every website you go to that your program 
is like Firefox


But, it will still mention SeaMonkey, and some sites will be confused by 
this so they still will not work, so 


Second, in the web browser part of SeaMonkey type "about:config" 
(without the inverted commas), accept the warning and then type 
'Useragent' in the Search: line. That will just leave those preferences 
that include the word useragent. One of those will be 
'general.useragent.compatMode.firefox'. Double click on that preference 
will change the 'Value' from 'false' to 'true'.


Additionally, if there is a particular website that is causing problems 
(often banking sites), in this config page, you can add a preference 
that would apply only to that particular website and set it to 'spoof' 
Firefox only just for that website, but I'm unsure how to enter a new 
preference like this.


Maybe someone else will suggest how to do that.

And it just occurred to me that there is a third method of changing the 
Preferences ... by setting up a preference that applies only to that 
particular website and saving that/those preferences in a *TEXT* file 
called UserConfig and saving that file in the same location as your 
Preferences file. This method allows you to add comments against each 
preference that you add/change so that you can know why you did that 
 when your memory fails you! ;-)


You can check out the available preferences at ... 
http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries



DoctorBill (still trying !)


Keep on trying, Doc!


I have all that you suggested running.  No "Text" though
Some site still don't like my system.

Thanks !
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Re: Mail: Authentication for AOL account fails.

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On 1/3/2020 6:43 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
> Hi,
>
> may be an AOL user can (and wants to) help Reporter of
> "Bug 1606769 Seamonkey eMail no longer works with AOL eMail."
>  ?
>
>
> CU
>
> Rainer
No problem here with

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.5

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Re: Mail: Authentication for AOL account fails.

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Google for oauth2 and yahoo. You need a Passkey.


FRG

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Hi,

may be an AOL user can (and wants to) help Reporter of
"Bug 1606769 Seamonkey eMail no longer works with AOL eMail."
 ?


CU

Rainer

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Mail: Authentication for AOL account fails.

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Hi,

may be an AOL user can (and wants to) help Reporter of
"Bug 1606769 Seamonkey eMail no longer works with AOL eMail."
 ?


CU

Rainer
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Re: Transferring to Windows 10 system

[Daniel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 03/01/20 11:47:

Daniel wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 03/01/20 03:03:




PS - I turned off the "Automatic Update" on my HP with Windows 7.
Hoping that that keeps MicroSoft from "Zapping" it and shutting it down.

Did that also on The Windows 10 computer.  I can now 'allow' 
upgrading or
not - depending on what results others are reporting.  Some control - 
I hope.


DB

Some would suggest that not such a bad practice, Doc. That way, rather 
than letting the updates be automatically installed, you can wait a 
week or so, let others try out the update and, if no problems are 
found, you can apply the updates when you want ... as long as you do 
remember to apply them eventually!!




You can not tun off updates in regular Windows 10. Doing so you would 
need to go deep into the task scheduler and also stop some services. 
This usually leaves the installation half broken and would also stop 
updates for Windows Defender.


FRG


Ah!! Another reason that I'm, yet, to make the move to 10!!

Thanks FRG.
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Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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