Re: Website seems to work in Google Chrome only- HELP!!!
Ray_Net wrote:
You said: "If you show *just* Firefox, then that problem goes away. "
I have: user_pref("general.useragent.override.google.com", "Mozilla/5.0
(Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/67.0");
And the https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a
doesnot work.
I should have qualified by noting that the problem goes away at
www.google.com. I haven't dug far enough into Google's other sites to
know just how widely that will work.
Google is heavy on scripting use, and beyond what can be done with the
User Agent, there may be other things that don't work as intended, where
Google is trying to make use of things that don't exist in Seamonkey. I
alluded to that in my note about YouTube, but it's entirely possible
that similar issues may turn up at somewhere like store.google.com.
My suggestion works for some parts of Google, but it's entirely possible
that it doesn't work for everything at Google.
Smith
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Re: Website seems to work in Google Chrome only- HELP!!!
On 9/12/2020 9:14 AM, Danny Kile wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 9/12/2020 11:15 AM, Danny Kile wrote: Tried to access the following website https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a Would not run in SeaMonkey no matter what I used for a User Agent. Then I tried Pale Moon and it would not run with it. I then tried Internet Explorer and it was a no go also. Then I tried it with Google Chrome and it works with it. So what is so different about Chrome? How do I get it to run in SeaMonkey? Danny Did you try safe mode? Works for me in Firefox 80.0.1 on Windows10. I did try safe mode and that did not work. However, that would not explain why IE and Pale Moon did not work also. It didn't work in my 64-bit SeaMonkey v2.53.3 (even tried a couple Firefox user agents) and Internet Explorer v11 web browsers in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC. However, my 64-bit Firefox v80.0.1 was fine. I wonder if it will work in non-Chromium Edge web browser (don't have nor want it). -- Life's so loco! ..!.. *isms, sins, hates, (d)evil, illnesses (e.g., COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2), deaths (RIP), interruptions, stresses, heat waves, fires, out(r)ages, dramas, unlucky #4, 2020, greeds, bugs (e.g., crashes & female mosquitoes), etc. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use :( Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Website seems to work in Google Chrome only- HELP!!!
On 9/12/2020 8:15 AM, Danny Kile wrote: Tried to access the following website https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a Would not run in SeaMonkey no matter what I used for a User Agent. Then I tried Pale Moon and it would not run with it. I then tried Internet Explorer and it was a no go also. Then I tried it with Google Chrome and it works with it. So what is so different about Chrome? How do I get it to run in SeaMonkey? I guess Google doesn't want our money. ;) -- Life's so loco! ..!.. *isms, sins, hates, (d)evil, illnesses (e.g., COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2), deaths (RIP), interruptions, stresses, heat waves, fires, out(r)ages, dramas, unlucky #4, 2020, greeds, bugs (e.g., crashes & female mosquitoes), etc. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use :( Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Website seems to work in Google Chrome only- HELP!!!
NFN Smith wrote on 12-09-20 18:27:
Danny Kile wrote:
Tried to access the following website
https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a
Would not run in SeaMonkey no matter what I used for a User Agent.
Then I tried Pale Moon and it would not run with it. I then tried
Internet Explorer and it was a no go also. Then I tried it with
Google Chrome and it works with it. So what is so different about
Chrome? How do I get it to run in SeaMonkey?
Google has its own way of how they want to do things.
For simple interaction, I've found that even the search bar at
google.com has a display quirk. However, if set the User Agent to show
*only* Firefox, the quirk goes away. Thus, in about:config, I have
added an entry:
general.useragent.override.google.com Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT
10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0
I can't speak for Internet Explorer, but with Mozilla-derived
browsers, it seems that Google doesn't handle things well if the UA
string shows both "Firefox" and the name of the true browser. I've
tested with both Seamonkey and PaleMoon, and I presume the same
applies to Waterfox, as well. If you show *just* Firefox, then that
problem goes away.
You could probably get the same effect if you spoof a Chromium
browser, whether Chrome proper, or a Chromium derivative, such as the
new Edge, Opera, etc.
On the other hand, I've seen developer notes that indicate that where
Google is going with YouTube, there's beginning to appear some things
that work properly only in Chromium browsers, and even some stuff that
may not work as well in Firefox, especially versions older than 78.x ESR.
Although you don't' have to abandon Seamonkey, you may want to get
used to the idea that you don't necessarily use Seamonkey for
everything (remember, there's nothing that requires you to commit to
exclusive use of a single browser), and be prepared to use something
other than Seamonkey to interact with certain sites.
Smith
You said: "If you show *just* Firefox, then that problem goes away. "
I have: user_pref("general.useragent.override.google.com", "Mozilla/5.0
(Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/67.0");
And the https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a
doesnot work.
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Re: Website seems to work in Google Chrome only- HELP!!!
Danny Kile wrote: Tried to access the following website https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a Would not run in SeaMonkey no matter what I used for a User Agent. Then I tried Pale Moon and it would not run with it. I then tried Internet Explorer and it was a no go also. Then I tried it with Google Chrome and it works with it. So what is so different about Chrome? How do I get it to run in SeaMonkey? Danny That page works with Vivaldi, but not with Slimjet. Interesting, since they are both chromium browsers with the Blink rendering engine, and both identify themselves as Chrome. It works with Safari, which does not identify itself as Chrome. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Website seems to work in Google Chrome only- HELP!!!
Danny Kile wrote: Tried to access the following website https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a Would not run in SeaMonkey no matter what I used for a User Agent. Then I tried Pale Moon and it would not run with it. I then tried Internet Explorer and it was a no go also. Then I tried it with Google Chrome and it works with it. So what is so different about Chrome? How do I get it to run in SeaMonkey? Google has its own way of how they want to do things. For simple interaction, I've found that even the search bar at google.com has a display quirk. However, if set the User Agent to show *only* Firefox, the quirk goes away. Thus, in about:config, I have added an entry: general.useragent.override.google.comMozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0 I can't speak for Internet Explorer, but with Mozilla-derived browsers, it seems that Google doesn't handle things well if the UA string shows both "Firefox" and the name of the true browser. I've tested with both Seamonkey and PaleMoon, and I presume the same applies to Waterfox, as well. If you show *just* Firefox, then that problem goes away. You could probably get the same effect if you spoof a Chromium browser, whether Chrome proper, or a Chromium derivative, such as the new Edge, Opera, etc. On the other hand, I've seen developer notes that indicate that where Google is going with YouTube, there's beginning to appear some things that work properly only in Chromium browsers, and even some stuff that may not work as well in Firefox, especially versions older than 78.x ESR. Although you don't' have to abandon Seamonkey, you may want to get used to the idea that you don't necessarily use Seamonkey for everything (remember, there's nothing that requires you to commit to exclusive use of a single browser), and be prepared to use something other than Seamonkey to interact with certain sites. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Website seems to work in Google Chrome only- HELP!!!
WaltS48 wrote: On 9/12/2020 11:15 AM, Danny Kile wrote: Tried to access the following website https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a Would not run in SeaMonkey no matter what I used for a User Agent. Then I tried Pale Moon and it would not run with it. I then tried Internet Explorer and it was a no go also. Then I tried it with Google Chrome and it works with it. So what is so different about Chrome? How do I get it to run in SeaMonkey? Danny Did you try safe mode? Works for me in Firefox 80.0.1 on Windows10. I did try safe mode and that did not work. However, that would not explain why IE and Pale Moon did not work also. Danny ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Website seems to work in Google Chrome only- HELP!!!
On 9/12/2020 11:15 AM, Danny Kile wrote: Tried to access the following website https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a Would not run in SeaMonkey no matter what I used for a User Agent. Then I tried Pale Moon and it would not run with it. I then tried Internet Explorer and it was a no go also. Then I tried it with Google Chrome and it works with it. So what is so different about Chrome? How do I get it to run in SeaMonkey? Danny Did you try safe mode? Works for me in Firefox 80.0.1 on Windows10. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Website seems to work in Google Chrome only- HELP!!!
Tried to access the following website https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a Would not run in SeaMonkey no matter what I used for a User Agent. Then I tried Pale Moon and it would not run with it. I then tried Internet Explorer and it was a no go also. Then I tried it with Google Chrome and it works with it. So what is so different about Chrome? How do I get it to run in SeaMonkey? Danny ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser
On 2020-09-01, Slugracing wrote: > Slugracing wrote: >> Nuno Silva wrote: >>> On 2020-08-19, Slugracing wrote: >>> Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2020-08-18, Slugracing wrote: >>> [...] >> I too have come to a fork in the road and am now looking to move to >> another browser. the stalling and memory usage has now gotten out of >> control. since we move to the 2.53 series my ram usage has doubled, >> and I don't have double the ram so it swaps constantly and because of >> this its slow as a wet week. >> >> None of the other browsers I have tried including Firefox use as much >> ram for the same sites open. >> >> Thanks > > Are you using the binaries from > https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ or is > it a distribution-compiled version? Distro version (manjaro). I have now just downloaded the ones from seamonkey and will try this for a few days and see how it goes >>> >>> Thanks! Please let us know how it goes - it will be very helpful to know >>> whether this happens with both packages or not. >>> >> >> Ok I have been using 2.53.4b1 for a few days downloaded directly >> from SM website, I have been doing pretty much the same things I >> always do and have at this point in time an improvement in ram >> usage, down around 40%. >> >> Ill keep using this for a few more days and report back again. >> >> Thanks > > > Ok I can safely say Im still having the same issues .. over a period > of a few hours CPU and RAM go through the roof. > > Pity I was hoping for a fix. Hi, Thanks for testing! Would you say it behaves mostly in the same way or does it take noticeably longer to show these issues? -- Nuno Silva ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
