SeaMonkey 2.11 has been released.

[Edmund Wong]

The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.11: The new major 
release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now! 
Building on the same Mozilla platform as the newest Firefox release, it 
delivers the latest developments in web technologies such as HTML5, 
hardware acceleration and improved JavaScript speed.


SeaMonkey 2.11 is available in 24 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and 
Linux.


NOTE: This release will only be offered via manual Check For Updates 
or our website until sometime shortly after the Christmas Holiday. We 
acknowledge how hectic this time of year is, and do not wish to disturb 
you with updates until you are ready!


For a more complete list of major changes in SeaMonkey 2.11, see the 
What's New in SeaMonkey 2.11 section of the Release Notes, which also 
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked 
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and 
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.


Full news article:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2012-07-17

Downloads for all available platforms and languages:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

Release notes:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.11

System Requirements:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/system-requirements

--
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Re: Can't upgrade SM to v2.12.1 from v2.12 due to its integrity? And fixes?

[Edmund Wong]

Ant wrote:

Hi!

It won't let me upgrade today so far: http://i.imgur.com/y5JIu.gif and
http://i.imgur.com/zVTLP.gif ... I wonder if it is just me (looks like
it based in this newsgroup so far). Is there an update log somewhere for
me to check? Also, what was fixed?


This is entirely my fault.  I pushed the wrong set of files.

I'm fixing this right now.


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Re: SM 2.13.1?..

[Edmund Wong]

Rufus wrote:


...according to this -

http://www.itworld.com/software/302609/mozilla-releases-firefox-1601-address-four-vulnerabilities


Firefox and Thunderbird have already released updates, but I don't find
a SM 2.13.1 on the front page.  Standing by...


Working on it right now..  thank you for your patience.


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SeaMonkey 2.13.1 Released

[Edmund Wong]

The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.13.1: An updated 
release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download [1] 
now! Building on the same Mozilla platform as the newest Firefox 
release, it delivers the latest developments in web technologies such as 
HTML5, hardware acceleration and improved JavaScript speed.


SeaMonkey 2.13.l is available in 26 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and 
Linux.


Most notably, this release fixes a security bug.

For a more complete list of major changes [2] in SeaMonkey 2.13.1, see 
the What's New in SeaMonkey 2.13.1 section of the Release Notes [3], 
which also contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently 
asked questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project 
(and screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.13/changes
[3] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.13/

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SeaMonkey 2.14b3 Released.

[Edmund Wong]

The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.14b3: An updated 
release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download [1] 
now! Building on the same Mozilla platform as the newest Firefox 
release, it delivers the latest developments in web technologies such as 
HTML5, hardware acceleration and improved JavaScript speed.


SeaMonkey 2.14b3 is available in 26 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and 
Linux.


For a more complete list of major changes [2] in SeaMonkey 2.14b3, see 
the What's New in SeaMonkey 2.14b3 section of the Release Notes [3], 
which also contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently 
asked questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project 
(and screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.14/changes
[3] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.14/

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Bug 147474 - Move 'Helper Applications' out of Navigator (browser) category

[Edmund Wong]

Hi,

I'm soliciting some feedback on this bug[1].

Where should Helper Applications be if it isn't good to be
in the Advanced category?  The patch moves it from the Browser
category to the Advanced category.

Thanks

Edmund

[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147474
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Bug 507841 - Port Bug 422814 - Make account configuration quick, easy, and more secure (autoconfig, Quick Account Setup)

[Edmund Wong]

Hi,

I like our current account configuration and wizard.  Of course,
it can be improved upon; but, does it mean it should be rewritten?
If so, what would/should it look like?  If not, does this mean
we should WONTFIX this?

Or instead of asking 'what' it should look like, how about I ask
what your ideal process of how a user creates a new account?
If the current one needs changing, how would  you liked it
changed?

Anyone?

Edmund
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Re: Funding and Bug Fixes....

[Edmund Wong]

SamuelS wrote:

Hello SM Team and participants.. I have an idea about how to get bug
fixes done, for those of us who really, really, really want them done
ASAP and then some...

How about assigning a monetary value to requested fixes and let us as
either a group or individuals pay to get them done quickly, of course
security fixes are excluded.


As mentioned earlier by others, it isn't the 'monetary value' that
spurs us to fix bugs; but it's the time required to sit down and
do the coding.  We're all volunteers with this community project
and well all want this project to have every single fix done.
Again, it's the time required, which makes it hard when we all
have our daytime jobs.

I don't speak for the rest of the guys, but I would love to
really fix all the bugs (security or otherwise) in SeaMonkey.
However, in my case only, I'm not a very good developer and
all I can do are the 'simple bugs'. I haven't quite gotten to
the stage of what I'd like; but I'm improving with each bug I fix.
(sort of).  I'm finding that it's hard for me to get into the
zone to really do some brilliant coding.

I'm doing as much as my brain can handle.  I do apologize for
sucking so much and not doing a good job at doing the hard
bugs; but, like I said, I'm trying to improve at it.  But
I do get frustrated when I do a hard bug.  It's one thing
I don't want to do is to get frustrated and give up.

Thanks for everyone's patience.  Kudos to those who tackle
the hard bugs.

Edmund
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Re: OT: Mozilla Hires New CEO

[Edmund Wong]

Bob Fleischer wrote:


One concern might be if the political dispute between the new CEO and
Mozilla developers (including a boycott by some developers) affect
availability of technology that Seamonkey ultimately needs.



What kind of dispute are you talking about?

Edmund

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Re: Please explain why Seamonkey Nightly is no longer building for Linux systems

[Edmund Wong]

brian.masin...@gmail.com wrote:


We had a few builds going on for a while, but Seamonkey Nightly for Linux 32 
bit platforms has been dormant since February.   Any chance, now that 2.28 is 
building, that I can get a clean Nightly build for the Linux 32 bit platform?

I'd appreciate it, thanks very much!



Yeah.  Trunk, and Aurora aren't happy these days.  Trunk
wasn't happy for some time (and now Aurora has joined in
the party) and this is (at this moment) due to bug 983536.

I'm hoping we'll get this sorted out soon.

Edmund

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Re: SM 2.28? Two weeks?

[Edmund Wong]

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

Per the meeting notes:

SeaMonkey 2.28 beta 1 and final are intended to follow within two
weeks after last merge (i.e., by the time of this meeting), otherwise
another 2.26.x update will follow (Callek’s news post, MZ
announcement).

So that was on the 8/5/14 and still no sign of even a beta. What
gives?



Yes, it is annoying I know.  I'm sorry for the delay.  I've been
working hard at getting the infrastructure code back up and
right now, beta is 'ok' (as in it's building on all platforms,
but there are issues pertaining to OSX64 and Windows, specifically
during the 'make check' process).

I'm now working on comm-release but there's a hiccup that I'm
hoping to have fixed today so I can proceed to continue.
(Linux64 c-r is building at least. :) )

I know you didn't ask, but c-c and c-a aren't good; but
I hope to get them back building.  c-c's going to be a
bit tougher since so much m-c buildconfig changes have
compounded a lot of different bustages. (ok. I'm speculating
here, since it's currently busted because of a trivial
matter; but behind this trivial bustage, there's probably
others.) ;/

As for 'when is the beta/release coming out', I can only
say Soon.

I'm really really sorry. I'm working as  hard as
I can on this.

Edmund



Edmund



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Re: 2.30 upgrade breaks seamonkey

[Edmund Wong]

jkdingw...@gmail.com wrote:

Taking the latest driver package from Lenovo updates the Intel HD driver to 
8.15.10.2538 resolves the problem and I can run with omtc enabled.


Well someone filed bug 1084572.

It really bites to see that happen. :(


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Re: Browser Windows go Black when 2.30 update installs

[Edmund Wong]

tshou...@gmail.com wrote:

When Seamonkey 2.30 update installs, the browser window and the email tool go 
black.  I have to back down to 2.29.1 to use Seamonkey (and my email).  I also 
can't figure out how to STOP the auto updates.  So every other day or so I have 
to reinstall 2.29.1.  Running Windows 7, Dell Laptop, Been using Seamonkey for 
years and this is the first problem.

Suggestions?



Update your graphics drivers.

My co-workers were using Lenovo machines which had the
affected Intel HD driver. They updated their driver and
the problem went away.

Edmund
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SeaMonkey 2.31b2 released

[Edmund Wong]

Greetings,

It's been a long time since anyone has officially announced any
SeaMonkey releases, so here goes.

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 
2.31b2.  Please give it a spin.


For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.31, see the What's 
New in SeaMonkey 2.31 section of the Release Notes [2], which also 
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked 
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and 
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.31
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.31/
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.31b2 released (addendum)

[Edmund Wong]

*sigh*

Proper links help.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.31/
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.31/

And the download links:

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.31b2

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.31 released

[Edmund Wong]

NoOp wrote:

 From SeaMonkey Project News RSS feed:



Thanks NoOP!

Was supposed to do that myself.  ;/

Sorry.

Edmund

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SeaMonkey 2.32b2 released

[Edmund Wong]

Greetings,

(Sorry. Skipped both the 2.31 and 2.32b1 releases..)

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 
2.32b2.  Please give it a spin.


For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.32, see the What's 
New in SeaMonkey 2.32 section of the Release Notes [2], which also 
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked 
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and 
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.32
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.32/
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32b2 released

[Edmund Wong]

Ruediger Lahl wrote:

*Edmund Wong* wrote:


The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.32b2.  Please give it a spin.


I would like to give a spin to the win32-nightlys, but the last
published version is 20141208003001 from the eight of December... :-(



Yes. This problem is known mainly because our Win32 builders need
VS2013, which we don't have installed and can't install because the
underlying operating system is old (Windows 2003).

We're working on getting this fixed as soon as we can.

Edmund


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Re: Newsgroups/RSS Feeds And The LIke...

[Edmund Wong]

Philipp van Hüllen wrote:

SamuelS schrieb:

Hello My SM Guru's... my challenge today is, since installing SM 2.32 on
a Win 8.1 desktop all of my Newsgroups/RSS feeds with the exception of
SM groups have ceased working/downloading.


Reported here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1120067

Due to, ah, unhappy circumstances I reported this on the betas later
than possible; seems it was too late for the release.


Any ideas as to what I may have done or need to do get them all going
again?


AFAIK no solution on 2.32x so far. Please follow the ticket.



I've attached a patch to that bug.  While it fixes the issue for me,
I'm not exactly sure that is the 'right code'.  But I'll know
later when Neil picks at it. :P


Edmund

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Re: No RSS in 2.32bx - [was Re: SeaMonkey 2.32b3 released]

[Edmund Wong]

NoOp wrote:

On 01/08/2015 05:07 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 01/08/2015 10:43 AM, George wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.32b3.  Please give it a spin.

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.32, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.32 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.32
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.32/


Please don't release this version to production.  It does not handle
RSS feeds at all.  Can't add a new RSS news group nor does SeaMonkey get
any new RSS feed articles for the groups I already have.



@Edward: Unfortunately I have to agree with George on this point.

@George: I recommend that you file a bug report. Neither SeaMonkey nor
Thunderbird seem to have a bug report regarding this:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=SeaMonkeycontent=rsscomments=0

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=Thunderbirdcontent=rsscomments=0

SeaMonkey has an old bug report that may be related:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=641373
(subscription to various RSS feeds does not always transfer to Mail 
Newsgroups)

Note: Thunderbird 34 beta allows you to add the feed with a url manually
- only tested in Windows, haven't tested in linux yet.




I note that the SeaMonkey RSS feed will load:

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news-atom

However, when attempting to subscribe to the Google news RSS:

http://news.google.com/news?pz=1cf=allned=ushl=enoutput=rss

I get the following in the error console:
2015-01-08 17:45:03 Feeds   WARNsubscribeToFeed: Aborting RSS
subscription. Feed downloads already in progress

Delete the SeaMonkey RSS and try the Google RSS - same result. Then
retry the SeaMonkey RSS  it does not load - error msg is the same as
when I try the Google RSS (FeedsWARNsubscribeToFeed: Aborting RSS
subscription. Feed downloads already in progress).



I've done some preliminary tests and came up with a few observations:

The tests were conducted with the following RSS feeds:

[1] http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news-atom
[2] http://news.google.com/news?pz=1cf=allned=hkhl=zh-TWoutput=rss
[3] http://planet.mozilla.org/atom.xml
[4] http://planet.mozilla.org/rss20.xml

Test 1:
  - Subscribe [1]
  - Subscribe [2]  - fails. (does nothing aside for dumping that error
 to the error console)

(Delete Blogs  .. account)

Test 2:
  - Subscribe [2]  - fails.

(Delete Blogs  .. account)

Test 3:
  - Subscribe [1]
  - Subscribe [3]
  - Subscribe [4]  -fails

(delete...)

Test 4:
   - Subscribe [4]  - fails

Test 5:
   - Subscribe [1]  - fails.

While my tests aren't scientific enough to jump to conclusions, I feel
that the SeaMonkey feed code is not liking RSS v2.0 feeds.  The
parsing is stuck somewhere.  So when it fails, something that's
set is stuck at the setting which makes any subsequent tries
fail.  You'd need to delete the Blog  newsFeeds account to
get it going again.  Unfortunately, I don't have much time to
dwell on this too much, but will try to when I get enough
cycles.


Edmund




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SeaMonkey 2.32 released

[Edmund Wong]

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.32!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.32, see the What's 
New in SeaMonkey 2.32 section of the Release Notes [2], which also 
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked 
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and 
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.32
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.32/
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SeaMonkey 2.32b3 released

[Edmund Wong]

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 
2.32b3.  Please give it a spin.


For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.32, see the What's 
New in SeaMonkey 2.32 section of the Release Notes [2], which also 
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked 
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and 
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.32
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.32/
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Re: Question about Seamonkey's life plans

[Edmund Wong]

jeff.nee...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi.  I hope no one takes offense at my question.

Is Seamonkey going to be around for a while?  So many software developers
drop support for their products after a period of time.  I'm investing a
lot of time and interest in Seamonkey.

Is it thought that SM will continue to be developed?  One can only remember
Mozilla stopping development on Thunderbird and wonder about the future of
SM.


Both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird are still in development, although now
as community projects (made up of volunteers).

AFAIK, it's still being worked on, but, I might add, it does require
more contributors (esp. in terms of coding).

As for your initial question Is SeaMonkey going to be around
for a while, no one really can tell you.  We, as contributors,
certainly will do our best to make it be around for a while.

Edmund

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Re: Finally Seamonkey is Recognized by PC Mag

[Edmund Wong]

Eric wrote:

Finally saw that Seamonkey got some recognition from PC Mag.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2898509/10-obscure-highly-specialized-browsers-that-will-make-you-forget-about-chrome-firefox-and-ie.html


Bout time.


That is indeed awesome!

Edmund

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SeaMonkey 2.34b1 information

[Edmund Wong]

Dear All,

2.34b1's release is going to be postponed without any definitive ETA as
we are trying to get our Windows infra updated which is being
coordinated by Justin Wood (tip of the hat to him for his continual
efforts in this regard... it is difficult work indeed).

Given that, the SeaMonkey project really does appreciate everyone's
patience and continual support. :)

Thanks.

Edmund
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Re: Seamonkey update Crash

[Edmund Wong]

Eric wrote:

Has anyone else been experiencing Seamonkey Crashing after updating?

I've had to revert the other computer that I use for business purposes
to an older release of Seamonkey.  The other OS is Windows 7 Home
Premium 64 bit.


Have you tried it with a new profile?

I'm wondering if it's bug 1092810.

Edmund
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.33 released

[Edmund Wong]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.33!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.33, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.33 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.33
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.33/


And to note(fwiw), I was the one who did the website changes (as of
this writing) and it's a bit 'messed up' (in terms of release
information).  Apologies.

The website should be 'fixed' soon; but the release is still there.

Edmund
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.34b1 information

[Edmund Wong]

Ronnie wrote:

Would the same delay occur if it was the Linux version that needed
special attention?



I think I understand what you're getting at.  The answer is yes;
but the delay would probably be less 'extended' for the reason being
setting up the Windows upgrade is a lot more difficult when it
comes to getting the infra properly done (and it isn't just as
simple as turning on the computer and installing the software as
that'd be just a maintenance headache further down the road).

So all in all, given the resources we have, we're really
doing our best.

Again, we really do appreciate everyone's patience.

Thanks

Edmund





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SeaMonkey 2.33 released

[Edmund Wong]

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.33!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.33, see the What's 
New in SeaMonkey 2.33 section of the Release Notes [2], which also 
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked 
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and 
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.33
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.33/
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SeaMonkey 2.33b1 released

[Edmund Wong]

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 
2.33b1!


For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.33b1, see the What's 
New in SeaMonkey 2.33 section of the Release Notes [2], which also 
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked 
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and 
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.33
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.33/
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Re: Why are functions being broken and not fixed ?

[Edmund Wong]

Rubens wrote:

Hello all,


Since one year ago I have been observing some Seamonkey features/functions
to stop working and no fixes being provided to them, as follows:

1- Empty message pane opens by itself after marking a message as junk in
the messages list
(Bug # 986874, opened on March 22, 2014 and still unresolved)

2- After clicking on the Show remote content button from a received
e-mail message,
and adding its sender to the allowed list, the yellow alert stripe
pops-up again
like as nothing had been done.

3- When selecting a newsgroup message to be opened in a new tab, it
appears as a blank page.

The reason for writing this is that in every release I always see new
functions being added,
but I think it would be nice to fix previously working (and now broken)
functions also.



Standard disclaimer: (I'm very bad at PR, so I hope I don't make too
much PR faux-pas.)

The SeaMonkey project is made up of volunteer developers who volunteer
some of their time for SeaMonkey development.  We don't have a lot of
developers and really would like more to help out, especially in coding.

That said, SeaMonkey isn't a standalone project without any 'external'
dependencies.  It depends on the Gecko engine and the Mailnews code.
Recent years have seen a lot of Gecko engine API changes and we're
really doing our best to keep up (but right now, it's hard).  When
the Gecko API changes, SeaMonkey code needs changing.  Sometimes
it's an easy fix.  Other times (most often the case), it requires
time to figure out the fix.

What's making matters worse is that our infrastructure is also
having some difficulty keeping up with the changes in how
the code is built.

We really do appreciate everyone's patience.  There's a lot
of bugs (looking at the current bug list is quite overwhelming)
and hopefully we can whittle it away one by one.


Thanks

Edmund





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SeaMonkey 2.33.1 released

[Edmund Wong]

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 
2.33.1!


For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.33, see the What's 
New in SeaMonkey 2.33 section of the Release Notes [2], which also 
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked 
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and 
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.33
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.33/
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SeaMonkey Win32 nightlies

[Edmund Wong]

Hi,

Just want to mention that I've managed (yes, finally) to generate Win32
trunk nightlies.

Due to the fact that it was very-much-hands-on (read: manual) process,
I am not sure if it's built well even though it is built using the
same steps as how our buildslaves created it. (But since we've
been busted for so long on Windows, I can't be sure anything after
the compile step is correct.)  [So please try it out and treat it
as a 'contributed' build for now.]

Also, there are no complete or partial snippets for updates as
I'm still trying to get that figured out.

Sorry for the delay...

Thanks.

Edmund
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[Edmund Wong]

Ant wrote:
 Also, what's the URL to this blog?
 

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org


Edmund
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[Edmund Wong]

EE wrote:

 Version 2.35 for Mac OS and Linux was ready weeks ago.  I thought the
 delay was because of Windows?  Or are you still fixing the more obscure
 bugs?
 

I'm not sure I understand this.  Version 2.35 couldn't have been ready,
since we're still trying to get them built right now.

Are you talking about the 'contributed' builds?

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SeaMonkey 2.35

[Edmund Wong]

Hi Everyone,

As I mentioned on the blog, I have started spinning up the
release for SeaMonkey 2.35. ('About time!' someone says.)

In the past, I would say on the release bug when the ETA is,
but due to the fact that we are doing this semi-automatically
(Win32 builds and repacks are manually done), and that there
are changes to the infra code, we expect to have some bustages.
This means delay; but considering everyone's been
waiting for it for months on end, a few days of
delay won't make any difference (I hope. :P ).

Again, I really want to thank everyone's patience while
we play catch up.

Edmund
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SeaMonkey 2.35..

[Edmund Wong]

Hi,

I regret to be the bearer of bad news; but as it stands,
the worst case scenario (and likely the actual case) is that 2.35 is
not going to be released in July.

The new goal is to release it in early August.

The past month has been mired in fire-fighting bustages,
getting repacks and builds working (as of this writing,
trunk is busted) as well as the need to get the backend
buildbot code updated to reflect that we no longer depend
on CVS.

I apologize for the delay and thank everyone for your
patience.

Edmund
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SeaMonkey 2.39 released

[Edmund Wong]

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.39!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.39b1, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.39 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.39
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.39/
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2.38b1 -> 2.39b1

[Edmund Wong]

Hi,

Out of curiosity (despite being a little late), is anyone using
2.38b1 and if so, did you get an update for 2.39b1?

I just downloaded 2.38b1 and installed it on a separate system.
I did a check for updates, but it got nothing.

I'm quite concerned that I might have goofed something up when
I did the 2.39b1 update part.  :(

Any information appreciated

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.39 released

[Edmund Wong]

Edmund Wong wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
> 2.39!
> 
> For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.39b1, see the What's
> New in SeaMonkey 2.39 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
> contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
> questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
> screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.
> 

I goofed up... again.  The above should say "For a complete list of
changes in SeaMonkey 2.39..."   C fail.

My apologies.

Edmund

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Re: Auto-Update "Something is trying to trick SeaMonkey..."

[Edmund Wong]

Gerry Hickman wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I don't fully understand the cause of the issue (client cert, server
> cert, string mismatch), but I did notice some about:config values in my
> own correctly updated 2.38 version.
> 
> I wonder if they change
> app.update.cert.requireBuiltIn
> true -> false
> would it allow them to get past the error and receive the new version?

The basic issue is that around 2.38b1 (iirc), we had changed certs,
so anything < 2.38b1 won't be able to upgrade to the latest version
and will require a full download and install.

So while 2.38 -> 2.39 works,  2.x -> 2.38+  (where x <38) won't update.


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2.39 and system hanging

[Edmund Wong]

Hi,

Is it just me, or does 2.39 hang a lot?  Especially with
getting email?   After clicking get messages, it'd download
the stuff, and then hang for about ten seconds or so and
then resume (after switching windows on me).  Like say
I am in the 3-pane message window.  I click on "Get Msgs".
It'd download the mail.  Then hang.  Once it resumes,
it jumps to some other browser window.

Mind you, this is with an old profile.  Guess I'll try
it with a new one.

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Re: 2.38b1 -> 2.39b1

[Edmund Wong]

Daniel wrote:
> On 9/11/2015 1:43 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Out of curiosity (despite being a little late), is anyone using
>> 2.38b1 and if so, did you get an update for 2.39b1?
>>
>> I just downloaded 2.38b1 and installed it on a separate system.
>> I did a check for updates, but it got nothing.
> 
> Ditto for me, Edmund!


Bug 1223218.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.39b1 released

[Edmund Wong]

WaltS48 wrote:
> 
> Short Beta test cycle?
> 
> I see a comm-release build in my RSS feed for comm-release Changelog.
> 

Yes.

Currently spinning 2.39.

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SeaMonkey 2.39b1 released

[Edmund Wong]

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.39b1!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.39b1, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.39b1 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.39b1
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.39/
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Re: Will there be a 2.38.1?

[Edmund Wong]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:
> Noticed there were a couple of "point releases" for Firefox and
> Thunderbird and was wondering if Seamonkey would be following suit?
> 

I'm not too sure.  I haven't heard anything from Callek.

Edmund
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SeaMonkey 2.39 beta GTK3 issues

[Edmund Wong]

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has encountered any issues with
the GTK3 built version of 2.39.

TB and Firefox backed out the necessary manifests[1] in order
to build with gtk3 and I'm wondering if it's necessary
for us to follow suite.

Edmund

[1] - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1207310
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Re: Support For NPAPI Plugins Ends Next Year

[Edmund Wong]

David E. Ross wrote:
> Mozilla is ending support for NPAPI plugins by the end on 2016.
> 

Where is this mentioned?

Edmund

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Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

[Edmund Wong]

Ed Mullen wrote:

I've seen several sort of oblique mentions here of the lack of
development of SM.  Also, haven't seen an update in a while.  So, I'm
beginning to feel that I'm nearing the point where I cannot any longer
stick with SM.

Kind of sad since I've been with it since Netscape back in, about, 1995.
  I don't have any aversion to an end of an era but it would be nice
to get some definitive info on what the few remaining SM devs are doing
or have in mind.

Thoughts?



I've been dedicating most of my time working on getting builds on Win32
running.  I know it isn't much and there are a lot of other stuff I was
hoping to do (particularly Sync).

I do apologize for the lack of updates; but, as it is, we're really
down in the resource department (particularly time and people).

I am, as I've posted, getting trunk and (hopefully) aurora nightlies
done consistently.  Then I'm doing the l10n repacks (nightly).
Once that can be consistently done, I'm going to do the release
when I have the necessary information.

I realize it's not the kind of update you're looking for, but those
are the steps that I need to do in order to get updates to release.

Thank you for everyone's patience.

Edmund
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Re: 2.35 update

[Edmund Wong]

EE wrote:
 Edmund Wong wrote:
 Hi,

 Another update on 2.35.

 1) build3 was 'somewhat' done but needs to be rebuilt due to
 some misconfiguration on my part.  It doesn't mean that
 build3 is a bust.  It isn't.  It's just that it's uploading
 the files to the wrong places. (First time it uploaded was
 to the nightlies tree. :P )

 2) l10n repacks needs fixing.  I've been told it won't
 require a build4(read: Callek's gonna do his cset magic),
 but I guess we shall see.

 3) Once the repacks are done, the *real* work is on getting
 the CVS-based-system-now-migrated-to-Mercurial part of
 the release process working.  But thankfully, this part
 is automated, so I won't be the reason for the slow down.

 Again, thanks for your patience while I work on this.

 Edmund

 I am using build 3 already.  I noticed that it is much smaller than the
 Tinderbox build (which was over 90 MB).  Why the difference in size?
 

Where did you get the tinderbox build?

All the 'real' builds are in the candidates/ area.  If 2.35 is
found anywhere else(as of this writing), it's most likely a mistake on
my part.  I'm wondering if I screwed something up, as there seems
to be some 2.35 release stuff in :

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/

Edmund


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SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Edmund Wong]

Dear All,

I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
to special.)

It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.

SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!

The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.

So update your copy now!

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.

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SeaMonkey 2.38b1

[Edmund Wong]

Greetings,

Can anyone believe it?  It was only last week that we thrashed and
fought against the problems with the SeaMonkey 2.35 release.  This week,
the SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.38b1.

Please give it a spin.

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.38b1, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.38b1 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

Thank you

Edmund Wong


Links:
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[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.38/
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SeaMonkey 2.38 released

[Edmund Wong]

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.38!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.38, see the What's 
New in SeaMonkey 2.38 section of the Release Notes [2], which also 
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked 
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and 
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.


Links:
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[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.38/
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Re: Something trying to trick SeaMonkey?

[Edmund Wong]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Jay O'Brien wrote:
> 
>> I have 5 computers running Windows 7 and SeaMonkey 2.33.1. My wife
>> and I each use one as our primary mail and browsing computer, the
>> other three are used primarily to display our cameras, and they all
>> have web access.
>>
>> All five of the computers exhibit the same problem. Select "Help",
>> then select "Check for Updates" gets a window labeled "Software
>> Update" that also says "Check for updates" for a split second, then
>> says "Update Failed" and says "Something is trying to trick SeaMonkey
>> into accepting an insecure update. Please contact your network
>> provider and seek help."
>>
>> As I recall, the Check for Updates selection used to take me to a
>> place to upgrade to the latest version, which I believe to be 2.35.
>>
>> What's this all about? Some help, please?
> 
> I had the same problem upgrading 2.33.1 Win7 machines last week. In the
> past, the update check, with my approval, used to automatically download
> and install the latest version and ask me to restart the program,
> without ever taking me to a website. Since both my computers had the
> problem, I simply went to the SeaMonkey website, downloaded the 30 MB
> installer, and installed it manually.
> 
> But I'd like to know what's going on, too. I've never seen this before.
> I sure hope SeaMonkey isn't blocking its own updater...
> 

Nope.  A change in the update certificate.  As Adrian mentioned,  older
than 2.33.1 will require manual upgrades.

Edmund
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2.35 update

[Edmund Wong]

Hi,

Another update on 2.35.

1) build3 was 'somewhat' done but needs to be rebuilt due to
   some misconfiguration on my part.  It doesn't mean that
   build3 is a bust.  It isn't.  It's just that it's uploading
   the files to the wrong places. (First time it uploaded was
   to the nightlies tree. :P )

2) l10n repacks needs fixing.  I've been told it won't
   require a build4(read: Callek's gonna do his cset magic),
   but I guess we shall see.

3) Once the repacks are done, the *real* work is on getting
   the CVS-based-system-now-migrated-to-Mercurial part of
   the release process working.  But thankfully, this part
   is automated, so I won't be the reason for the slow down.

Again, thanks for your patience while I work on this.

Edmund
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Re: "Save View as a Folder..." broken

[Edmund Wong]

Tom S. wrote:
> On 11/18/2015 3:42 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:
>> Tom S. wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Before upgrading to the latest version of SeaMonkey (v.2.39), in the
>>> mail/newsgroups/blogs window, under View, I could select "Save View as a
>>> Folder..." after filtering messages with a Search. But now, it doesn't
>>> work. What happened and how do I get it back without going back to the
>>> older version that worked (v.2.35)?
>>>
>>
>> By "it doesn't work", do  you mean it doesn't show the folder
>> name that you've selected in the Choose Folder dropdown box?
>>
>> Or do you mean something else?
>>
>> Edmund
>>
> 
> I am able to put a keyword in the Search Messages box and filter a blog
> based on that. This part still works. But then, I used to be able to
> select "Save View as a Folder" from the View drop down box and it would
> show next to "Create as a subfolder of" the blog folder being filtered.
> But now it only shows a little folder icon.
> 
> It also drops down to show the folders, but if you select one, it will
> still not show anything but the little folder icon. Under "Match all or
> any..." the box it is completely blank. It cannot save the view.

Right.  I can definitely reproduce this.

I've filed bug 1226048.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.40?

[Edmund Wong]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:
> Firefox 43 has been out for a bit, and has even gotten three point
> upgrades but I haven't seen any mention of a Seamonkey update.  Is the
> Build Engine broken again?
> 

Sorry for the delay.  I've blogged about 2.40.

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2016/01/21/where-is-2-40/

And thanks for everyone's well wishes.  Hand is still in a splint;
but it's recovering.  There's still a small fracture.  Hopefully
I can get this splint off in two weeks.

Typing with one hand is slow.. so I need to use my right hand's
middle finger to help typing.  But uncomfortable as I need to
lift my arm up to type.

'nuff typing. ;)


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SeaMonkey 2.40 released

[Edmund Wong]

Greetings,

After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Please note that the website information, while updated for
2.40, still requires a bit more work.

We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.

It has been a very tough release.  I think it's the
toughest one I've done.  However, this isn't to say that
I did this alone.  Kudos go to a lot of people, particularly
the guys/gals in Mozilla's IT and RelEng dept.

I particularly want to thank Nick Thomas for his sheer
brilliant idea that helped me unhork the partial mar upload
script as well as pointing out the necessary changes
to migrate off FTP to S3.

Thanks to Jens Hatlak for taking the time to do the Website
patch. (Really, sorry for the delay.)

Also, thanks to Justin Wood for giving me this opportunity
to work out the problems myself.  If you all take a look
at bug 1233615,  I think I rivaled the mess I did with
the GTK bug (conveniently forgotten the # :P ).  The
repo changes I made...  oh boy.  Only time will heal
the mess^H^H^H^H wounds. ;P

Anyway, most of all, thanks to all the users out there
for hanging on to this project.  The words of encouragement
(especially during the broken-hand period) definitely gave
me a boost of energy.

Oh.  Before I forget and in the light of being transparent,
there is a chance I might have goofed something up, especially
during the 2.39 Win32 builds as well as the 2.40 builds and
also the partial mar and complete mar updates.  I hope I
didn't screw things up too much, if at all (here's hoping).
Please do post here on your findings.


Anyway, thanks again.


Links:
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[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.40/
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Re: No internal updates yet? Re: SeaMonkey 2.40 released

[Edmund Wong]

Ant wrote:
> On 3/14/2016 9:28 AM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:
> ...
>> BTW IMPORTANT->the Check for updates menu items is broken on the Mac
>> claiming there is no new update.
>>
>> Please go here to find the update
>> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
> 
> No updates found in my very old, updated Windows XP Pro SP3 machine too!
> What's up?

Hmmm.  Just what I kinda feared.  I must've done something
wrong with the partials or update placement. :(

Edmund
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Updates...

[Edmund Wong]

Hi,

I guess I did screw something up.  :( (No surprise
there.)

The updates are available for OSX64 and it seems it's
only the complete one.  The partials are also missing and
the Linux and Win32 updates went elsewhere
or didn't appear where they were supposed to.

I'm going back and checking it out; though I do
have a minor sneak feeling I know what I screwed
up with.

I do apologize for this delay.  It should be 'soon'.

Edmund
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Re: Updates...

[Edmund Wong]

Fwiw, I indeedly-do did make a faux-pas...

The update step actually wasn't good and yet, I went
ahead and pushed to the end.

I am certain that this mistake will be rectified,
and those responsible will be punished.  Those
gremlins. ;P

Seriously, I'm sorry for the screw up.  Working on
the fix.

Edmund

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updates... *finally*?

[Edmund Wong]

Hi All,

Just wish to announce that I believe the updates are working
now.

Please confirm.  I tried it locally and it looks ok.

Edmund
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Re: README, MD5SUM and SHA1SUM

[Edmund Wong]

Edmund Wong wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> They weren't generated properly at all.  Currently fixing them (though,
> README is online).
> 
> Once again, sorry for the fubar there..
> 
> 
> Edmund
> 

I believe I've fixed this issue.

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Re: Software Update check fails with xml error - Win 7

[Edmund Wong]

Rich Gray wrote:

> Anyone else seeing this??
> 
> My Mac and an old XP system just say that there's no update available,
> as normal.  ewong checked and did not see the problem either.
> 

Should be ok now.

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updating to 2.40

[Edmund Wong]

Hi Everyone,

I apologize for the delay in the updates working.

I just want to ask.  Are the updates working? As in
2.35..2.39 can be updated to 2.40?  I received an
email stating that there's still an issue.

Thanks

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Re: SM 2.39 -> 2.40

[Edmund Wong]

Desiree wrote:
> On 4/22/2016 7:08 AM, Gerry Hickman wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> My SeaMonkey 2.39 is set to auto-update, but it has not updated to 2.40
>> yet? Even "Help : Check for Updates" says there are no updates
>> available...
>>
> 
> We are all still waiting for a fix.  It affects Windows 64 bit users.  I
> posted in the bug when it was thought the problem was fixed when it
> wasn't.  I want internal push so I will continue waiting.

It should be fixed.

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Win32 nightlies

[Edmund Wong]

Hi,

Just wanted to mention that after figuring out bug 1271903 (reason:
PEBCAK! PEBCAK! PEBCAK! "kinda"), I've re-enabled to nightlies
for trunk and aurora.   (Until the next bustage... :P )

Now the update here wrt Release, that is blocked by a patch that
needs to be pushed to c-r; but that's now blocked on the tree
being closed.  Once it's opened, someone'll push the (c-b patch
from bug 1092468) to c-r.

Then I'll do a c-r build.

After that, we 'should' be in a 'good' shape to build a release.

[Disclaimer: The above is my update.  Not necessarily reflects
 what will happen in reality.]

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

[Edmund Wong]

Larry S. wrote:
> My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
> worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
> Her other programs work perfectly.
> 
> She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
> manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
> wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no luck.
> 
> Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.
> 

How is your wife starting SeaMonkey?  via a shortcut on the desktop
or directly from the Program Files folder?

I don't know if you've tried this; but, go directly into the
folder where SeaMonkey was installed and run the exe directly.

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Re: Seamonkey release?

[Edmund Wong]

> 
> Edmund,
> 
> A good explanation.
> 
> So, here's my question: Are there any Gecko alternatives out there that
> aren't changing at a such a furious rate? Something to give us a
> reasonable (and safe) SM but perhaps with a more consistent internal
> interface that would be simpler to integrate with past versions?

There are a few Gecko alternatives out there (Blink, Webkit, just to
name two that I've heard of..  then we come to the murky-i-don't-know
territory that is Trident et. al).  However, changing our interfaces
from Gecko to use anything else is just as difficult to do (and dare
I say, impossible given our resources (or lack thereof)).

And anyway, in this day and age,  we live in an ever-changing
environment and thusly the backend would tend to change accordingly.
(There is a reason for it being called 'rapid release').


> Because I don't like the impression I'm getting that the slope is rising
> and that the trend is not in our favor!

The slope has ALWAYS been rising and until we find more resources to
flatten this slope by brute force *grin*, it's gonna be that way.

"not as much as a slope..  it's more close to a cliff than a slope."
:) (not really funny considering our predicament, but life's short..
gotta laugh at the steep/vertical slopes.. :D)  [kinda taken
from "Bottoms" quote : "Steep?  It's Effing Vertical!"]



Edmund

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Re: Seamonkey release?

[Edmund Wong]

Stephan Thiele wrote:
> Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I don't really understand why
> there still is no Seamonkey update after the 2.40 release in March,
> almost half a year ago.

No.  Not a stupid question at all.  In fact, it's a very good question.

> I am quite confused that there a nightlies with version numbers
> increasing to 2.48 while there is not even a beta.

I wish there was an easy way of explaining this.  But, as Paul
stated, we're just a bunch of volunteers trying hard to maintain
our sanity with changes coming from Gecko's codebase and the
infra that needs a lot more love.  So all in all, a pretty much
mountain climb.

Excuses/reasons aside... I am really sorry for the lack of releases.

> Seamonkey is my default browser and mail and news program, so I don't

Ditto here.


> like to take any risk of losing my data and mails by using a buggy
> nightly. On the other hand, I see a lot of security updates of Firefox
> and Thunderbird which have been published in the meantime and therefore
> I'm concerned about unfixed vulnerabilities in Seamonkey.
> 
> Any hope?

Sure.  I'm (my opinion here.. doesn't reflect the opinion of the
group) not sure if it will be 2.45  or even 2.46.   But we'll see.

"We shall see We shall see.."

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.46 status updates in blog...

[Edmund Wong]

Paul Bergsagel wrote:
> Ant wrote:
>> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2016/09/28/2-46/
> Does this mean going forward that future releases will be easier for the
> developers to produce or will each release involve this much work?
> 
> BTW thanks for all the hard work getting this release ready.

Well, I honestly hope it won't involve this much work; but due to
a plethora of reasons (infra is sub-optimal, haven't released in a
while, code changes required to build..etc), it is difficult to
know; and changes are coming in faster than we can handle so
it's only when we do a release do we find problems.

Hopefully, once 2.46 is out the door, we can do a post-mortem and
figure out what we need to change in the infra code to not give
us problems.

Thanks for your patience.

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Re: New 2.46 Windows release candidates

[Edmund Wong]

Hi,

Fwiw.. please *do* note that those 2.46 candidate builds are just
test builds.  While it does have the sec fix, it isn't the official
candidate until I start spinning build 7.

Edmund


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Re: are there still official seamonkey betas ?

[Edmund Wong]

Daniel wrote:
> On 15/12/2016 6:40 PM, bdelmee wrote:
>> Richmond wrote on 2016-12-14 22:51:
>>> bdelmee  writes:
>>>
 Hello, I keep seeing people mentioning unofficial dev builds
 and encouraging us to try those and report any issue before
 2.46 comes out.

 I am still using 2.38 as 2.40 had an annoying regression for me,
 which i'd like to check on the next beta and report if still present.

 But - will there be a beta ? 2.38 is 15 months old by now.
 Still works wonder for all i can see but security-wise,
 this is getting a little old.
>>>
>>> There are builds here: (I don't think they are 'unofficial', but they
>>> are for testing.) Scroll down to 2.49a2. I have been using it without
>>> trouble.
>>>
>>> https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora/
>>>
>> thank you Richmond, but i only see alpha versions in that folder.
>>
>> my question remains: does seamonkey still follow a release cycle
>> including public betas ?
>>
> Yes, SeaMonkey does (normally) follow a release cycle that includes
> public Beta testing, but the small team that produces SeaMonkey has been
> having various problems (some derived from FireFox) and, of course, they
> have their usual workloads and family to handle as well.
> 
> The version Richmond gave you a link to *is* an Alpha version (hence the
> "a2" at the end of the Version number.
> 
> I think I downloaded an "official" Win7 WOW 32bit SM 2.46 recently, but
> cannot locate it at the moment, so maybe I was just dreaming!
> 

It should be (officially just as a candidate, but unofficially as a
release)
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/candidates/2.46-candidates/build9/unsigned/

basically.. candidate = unofficial
soon-to-be-released-but-pending-processing release :P

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Re: are there still official seamonkey betas ?

[Edmund Wong]

bdelmee wrote:
> Hello, I keep seeing people mentioning unoffical dev builds
> and encouraging us to try those and report any issue before
> 2.46 comes out.
> 
> I am still using 2.38 as 2.40 had an annoying regression for me,
> which i'd like to check on the next beta and report if still present.
> 
> But - will there be a beta ? 2.38 is 15 months old by now.
> Still works wonder for all i can see but security-wise,
> this is getting a little old.

Hi,

There will be betas..  just need the following to happen:

1) 2.46 is released
2) figure out if the next release is a beta (2.48) or
   release (2.47).
3) do a post-mortem discussion as to what the smeg went wrong
   with 2.46 and why hell broke loose and if it's the
   guy who did the release... he should be sacked!

   oh wait.. that's me.  *sheepish look* ermm..  umm.. Move
along.. nothing to see here. :P

Seriously, we'll need to do #3 and perhaps we'll need to
repeat the same patches to 2.47 or 2.48.   I dunno as
right now, I'm still fighting 2.46...

Thanks for your patience.

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Re: Browser not authentication-capable or authentication failed.

[Edmund Wong]

David C. Mores wrote:
> I am trying to login on my Cisco/Linksys WRT120N home router admin page
> at http://192.168.0.1/ using seamonkey.  I get a pop up window prompting
> for 'A username and password are being requested by http://192.168.0.1.
> The site says: "WRT120N"'  Clicking the OK button after entering the
> info causes the window to close, but pop up again.  Clicking the Cancel
> button results in an error page:
> 
> 401 Authorization Required
> Browser not authentication-capable or authentication failed.
> 
> I think this may be a bug in seamonkey V2.46 Build identifier:
> 20161213183751 because the very same login using the Google Chrome or MS
> Edge browsers work just fine - i.e. a successful router login.
> 

I'm not entirely sure why the build identifier would make any
difference; and since you've tried the safe mode, can you try it
with 2.40?  What about Firefox?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

[Edmund Wong]

David E. Ross wrote:
> On 12/22/2016 2:13 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:
>> Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!
>>
>> Reading back on 2.40's post, I wrote it was a 'difficult release'...
>> man.. little DID I know.
>>
>> Erm.. oh wait.  the formal post...
>>
>> After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
>> Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!
>>
>> So please check out [1] or [2].
>>
>> Please note that the website information, while updated for
>> 2.40, still requires a bit more work.
>>
>> We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
>> patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
>> and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.
>>
>> Edmund
>>
> 
> I cannot find any checksums for the new version.  I use them to verify
> that the downloaded installer was not corrupted during its travel
> through the Internet.
> 

My apologies.  I missed out (for some reasons) uploading those
checksums.  They should be there soon, if not now.

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re: 2.46

[Edmund Wong]

Hi All,

(this is a personal note, so any flak should be directed to me only and
no one else).

While this is in the soon-to-be-released release notes, I felt it's
prudent that I post this here.

SeaMonkey 2.46 took it's not-so-sweet time in being released due to a
plethora of issues (I am so damn glad at least others are more on the
ball than I am -- namely frg whose more clear-headed than I am).  That
said, there is one major issue.

SeaMonkey 2.40 will be the *last* version that supports non-CPU SSE
enabled systems.  2.44 (or maybe 2.43) *was* supposed to be the version
that gave users the 'your system will no longer be supported due to
it not having a SSE-enabled CPU' message (or something like that).
Unfortunately, 2.44 was skipped (as was 2.43 and 2.45) and so this
will come to users as a surprise (especially those installing the
full installer).

Since I have no knowledge (we lost this metric awhile ago) of how many
users we really have, I don't know how many are affected by this
and I suspect we won't know unless someone speaks out here or
anywhere.  If you are affected, please use 2.40.

My humblest apologies for suddenly springing this version on the user
base without mentioning it anywhere beforehand (the bug that dealt with
this change slipped off my radar).


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Re: 2.46 version

[Edmund Wong]

Pat Connors wrote:
> In the interim since the 2.40 breach was discovered, I have been using
> 2.47 64 bit with no problems what so ever.  Question, when 2.46 is
> available for download, should I use it or stay with the 2.47 version?

Breach? What breach?

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Re: 2.46 version

[Edmund Wong]

John Duncan wrote:
> Edmund Wong wrote:
>> Pat Connors wrote:
>>> In the interim since the 2.40 breach was discovered, I have been using
>>> 2.47 64 bit with no problems what so ever.  Question, when 2.46 is
>>> available for download, should I use it or stay with the 2.47 version?
>>
>> Breach? What breach?
>>
>> Edmund
>>
> I think he's referring to the SVG 0-day javascript exploit

Ah thanks John.

yeah.. the fix has been included in 2.46.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

[Edmund Wong]

Ant wrote:
> On 12/23/2016 12:59 AM, Philipp van Hüllen wrote:
>> Edmund Wong schrieb:
>>> Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!
>>
>>
>> Working fine so far here (including update):
>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:49.0)
>> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46
> 
> Same for Mac OS X v10.8.5/Mountain Lion and 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 boxes.

How's it running so far on 10.8?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

[Edmund Wong]

NoOp wrote:

> Edmund,
> 
> Why is it necessary to reboot the computer when the Windows version is
> installed?
> 
> G
> 
You shouldn't need to reboot.

Edmund
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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Edmund Wong]

Ken Rudolph wrote:
> 1)  POP e-mail not updating
> 2)  password manager crashes program
> 
> I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it.  How can I make sure
> that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46
> automatically.  Help!
> 
Hi Ken,

Can you clarify what operating system you're running 2.40 on?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

[Edmund Wong]

Edmund Wong wrote:
> Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!
> 
> Reading back on 2.40's post, I wrote it was a 'difficult release'...
> man.. little DID I know.
> 
> Erm.. oh wait.  the formal post...
> 
> After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
> Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!
> 
> So please check out [1] or [2].
> 
> Please note that the website information, while updated for
> 2.40, still requires a bit more work.
> 
> We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
> patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
> and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.
> 
> Edmund
> 

Well... um.. *embarrassed grin*

I'm sure everyone knows that my intention was to s/2.40/2.46/,
in my haste, I just did the c and missed the 2nd part. :(

*sigh*

What I *MEANT* to post:

> After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
> Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.46!
>
> So please check out [1] or [2].
>
> Please note that the website information, while updated for
> 2.46, still requires a bit more work.
>
> We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
> patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
> and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.
>


Though, i have to admit, that last part was certainly applicable more or
less.

Edmund
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SeaMonkey 2.46 released

[Edmund Wong]

Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!

Reading back on 2.40's post, I wrote it was a 'difficult release'...
man.. little DID I know.

Erm.. oh wait.  the formal post...

After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Please note that the website information, while updated for
2.40, still requires a bit more work.

We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.

Edmund
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

[Edmund Wong]

Ant wrote:
> Really? How will users know there are updates then? Will they at least
> tell them to go to the official web site?
> 
> 
> On 12/22/2016 1:47 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>> Just grab the full installer from the website. Update will likely not
>> work for any Windows OS in this release only.
> ...

That's on my TODO list right now.

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Re: Akalla language pack 2.48 failure

[Edmund Wong]

EE wrote:
> Has anyone else noticed that Adrian Kalla's British English language
> pack for SM 2.48 does not work?  No idea about any other of the language
> packs, but that one did not work with his or Mozilla's build of SM 2.48.

l10n repacks have always been a pita to figure out.

Can you clarify what it means by 'does not work'?

Edmund
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Re: Cannot compile 2.46

[Edmund Wong]

P. H. Madore wrote:
> This is a new issue for me. I was using 2.40 until today. Now I can't use
> anything. Something about "old-configure." Here is the complete
> configuration log:
> 

How are you building 2.46?

Furthermore, what's the contents of:

/home/phm/Downloads/seamonkey-2.46.source/seamonkey-2.46/mozilla/intl/icu/source/common/unicode/uvernum.h?

As I understand it, if it doesn't find your system's ICU libs,
it uses the in-source one.

What's your mozconfig like?

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Re: Help

[Edmund Wong]

l.thames wrote:
> Unable to send E-mail because "not in form user a host"  How do I correct?

I'm guessing you're entering an invalid email address.

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SeaMonkey 2.48 released!

[Edmund Wong]

Greetings,

After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.48!

So please check out [1] or [2].

This release would not be possible without the help from a lot
of people; but the person I'd like to thank personally is
Nick Thomas.  With his help on the updates issue, I managed
to get over the horkage in the final verification step.  Thanks
Nick!


We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.48
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.48/
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win64 contributed builds.

[Edmund Wong]

Hi Everyone,

Just wanna mention that I've generated the very first set of
Win64 builds.

I've set up a schedule to generate both 32 and 64 bit nightlies.

But while it's building 2.53, Win64 isn't officially 'contributed'
until (tentatively) 2.54 (which gives us some time to figure the quirks
of Win64 building).

Please do check it out.  At this moment, I would just download
the ZIP file (as opposed to the Installer... unless you're running
it on a spare computer.)

http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/seamonkey-2.53a1.en-US.win64.zip

Edmund

PS: Not entirely sure if I generated it right even if the about:support
shows Win64.  So feedback appreciated.  (Getting a bad feeling I
did something wrong...)
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Re: Cannot contact my router.

[Edmund Wong]

marksatt...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Just updated to 2.48 a few minutes ago.  Now I cannot contact my router at 
> 192.168.11 anymore.  I get a red error screen saying...401 Authorization 
> Required
> This server could not verify that you are authorized to access. Either you 
> supplied the wrong credentials(e.g., bad password), or your browser doesn't 
> understand how to supply the credentials required.
> 

If you get a red error screen giving you a "401 Authorization Required",
this means you can connect to your router.  It's just that you didn't
enter the right credentials to access your router.


> I never had a problem before since going to Seamonkey from Netscape.  It used 
> to bring up a dialog box with the password and I just had to click OK to 
> connect to the router.

Try creating a new profile without any add-ons, and log on to your
router.

Edmund
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Re: IMCOIMPATIBLE!

[Edmund Wong]

wwel...@gmail.com wrote:
> I've had problems all day with opening SM 2.48. It took me literally most of 
> the day to figure out what the solution was.
> 
> I have a MAC macOS Sierra 10.12.6 and it appears as if SM 2.48 isn't 
> compatible with the Mac OS I am on.

I'm not familiar with OSX; but, when you install 2.48 on your system,
and run it, what exactly appears?

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Re: E MAIL CRASHES ON 2.48

[Edmund Wong]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> It is probably bug 1286613:
> 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1286613
> 
> Solution is unfortunately to go back to 2.46 and wait for 2.49.1. Not
> sure if we can backport all the parts to 2.48 and do a 2.48.1

It is worth doing that if it fixes problems.

Edmund
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moderation

[Edmund Wong]

Hi all,

Was reading mozilla.support.seamonkey and thought to myself,
"geez.. there's certainly a lot of spam..  where's the moderation.."

That's when my internal voice trailed off and said... 'oh'.

So this is a heads-up.  If you see an influx of old messages  you
can blame it on me.  (or the rain, if you wish. :) )

To those affected by this, my humblest apologies.

Edmund
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Re: Android?

[Edmund Wong]

rickman wrote:
> Nothing for Android?  I'm looking for a newreader for a tablet.
> 

As much as we like to have support for multiple operating systems
(including Android and iOS), unfortunately, we don't have the
resources to add support for Android and/or iOS.

Perhaps we may one day support Android and/or iOS, who knows?

Imagine this a mobile SeaMonkey.. That would be sweet!

Edmund
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.1 is out!

[Edmund Wong]

Ant wrote:
> Well almost!
> 
> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2017/11/04/2-49-1-is-out/
> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2017/11/04/404-error/
> 
> Maybe more in https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/ soon.


I am waiting for some response regarding the external
infrastructure and see if it's something that was
bugging it.

Sorry for the delay.

Edmund
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Re: Seamonkey Composer to Be Discontinued?

[Edmund Wong]

Ant wrote:
> On 5/15/2018 3:46 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>  > I say on your May 14th Seamonkey Meeting Notes that Seamonkey
>> Composer may be discontinued?
>>
>> Where did you see this? I wrote the notes and this is not mentioned
>> anywhere.
>>
>>  > There was an enquiry by Mozilla if the Composer standalone product
>> in Bugzilla
>>
>> I just added a clarification here in case you meant this.
> 
> I saw it too.
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2018-05-13#Action_Items was
> where I saw it.

The removal is of the Composer component/product in
Bugzilla.mozilla.org, and not the actual application.
We're planning to move the Composer product in Bugzilla
under SeaMonkey::Composer.

Edmund
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SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[Edmund Wong]

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.3!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.3, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.3 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

It's been a very difficult release (but it still can't compare with
2.46...  )


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

[Edmund Wong]

Daniel wrote:
> Ant wrote:
>> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and
>> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/
> 
> Humm!! Should we be worried that Ewong twice mentions "touch wood"?!? ;-P
> 
Well...  I'm always a skeptic when it comes to smooth sailing releases
as I know, Murphy is *always* on the prowl.

But yeah.. cynical skeptic... that's me.

:ewong
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

[Edmund Wong]

Luis Carlos González Moráles wrote:
> If web addons have to be implemented, could that veresion be SeaMonkey 3?

If you mean WebExtensions as a SeaMonkey 3.0, that is definitely
a possibility.

> The 2.x versions have like 9 or so years that are developed:
> I'm a blind user, so advanced things to me didn't affect me.
> So what happen to the development?, Com on, sea monkey, com on!

Well, we're playing catchup with the changing code within the
Gecko codebase and since we only have like a handful of
developers working on it, it is difficult to keep up.

Edmund
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