Re: Individual Sig files for UseNet server??

2021-04-03 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/2/2021 6:29 PM, Daniel wrote:
> As you can see, on the news server I have a sig file indicating my use 
> of SeaMonkey on both Win7 and Linux.
> 
> With the impending move to UseNet, having just a single sig file might 
> not be suitable.
> 
> So, is it possible to have "newsgroup specific" sig files so that, if 
> I'm posting to a SeaMonkey group it indicates what version of SeaMonkey 
> I using, if I'm posting to a Win7 group the sig file indicates I'm on 
> Win7 and if posting to a Linux group the sig file indicates what version 
> of Linux I'm using ... as examples?? And a general, plain vanilla, one 
> for the rest.
> 
> And, if so, how??
> 
> TIA
> 

I do not know if it is compatible with your recent version of SeaMonkey
or if it was ever compatible with any version, but you might try the
Signature Switch extension.  I am using it with Thunderbird 52.9.1.

It sets a default signature but then allows you to select a non-default
signature for a given newsgroup or E-mail address.  It also allows you
to manually select a saved signature without having to manually type the
signature.

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While a "vaccination passport" to prove someone has been
vaccinated against COVID-19 seems to be a good idea, most
concepts involve smart phones.  What about those of us
who have been vaccinated but do not have a smart phone?
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Re: Individual Sig files for UseNet server??

2021-04-03 Thread Daniel

Andy Burns wrote on 3/4/21 7:11 pm:

Daniel wrote:

is it possible to have "newsgroup specific" sig files 


I don't think that level of customisation is possible in TB, so I doubt 
it is in SM either (I'm not an SM user).   You can create multiple 
"identities" per server each of which has a separate sig, maybe there 
are add-ons that automatically switch identity per group?


Yeah!! I could go for multiple accounts and only have some UseNet groups 
on each account  but that sounds too difficult!!


Thanks for responding though! ;-P
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Re: Individual Sig files for UseNet server??

2021-04-03 Thread Andy Burns

Daniel wrote:

is it possible to have "newsgroup specific" sig files 


I don't think that level of customisation is possible in TB, so I doubt 
it is in SM either (I'm not an SM user).   You can create multiple 
"identities" per server each of which has a separate sig, maybe there 
are add-ons that automatically switch identity per group?


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Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-04-02 Thread Ant

On 4/2/2021 2:06 PM, Rink wrote:

Op 2-4-2021 om 21:28 schreef Andy Burns:

Bret Busby forwarded:


-- Forwarded message --
From: Chris Ilias 

Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).


The three new groups

alt.comp.software.firefox
alt.comp.software.thunderbird
alt.comp.software.seamonkey

have been created, no doubt population around the various usenet 
servers will be slow.  At the moment they only exist on news.aioe.org 
and one or two other servers, I've requested them on a few servers 
that I use, but will request them on more servers over the next few 
days.  If they don't show up on servers that you use, feel free to 
request them there.



I found them also on
 news.neodome.net

Thanks! :D
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Individual Sig files for UseNet server??

2021-04-02 Thread Daniel
As you can see, on the news server I have a sig file indicating my use 
of SeaMonkey on both Win7 and Linux.


With the impending move to UseNet, having just a single sig file might 
not be suitable.


So, is it possible to have "newsgroup specific" sig files so that, if 
I'm posting to a SeaMonkey group it indicates what version of SeaMonkey 
I using, if I'm posting to a Win7 group the sig file indicates I'm on 
Win7 and if posting to a Linux group the sig file indicates what version 
of Linux I'm using ... as examples?? And a general, plain vanilla, one 
for the rest.


And, if so, how??

TIA
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Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-04-02 Thread Rink

Op 2-4-2021 om 21:28 schreef Andy Burns:

Bret Busby forwarded:


-- Forwarded message --
From: Chris Ilias 

Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).


The three new groups

alt.comp.software.firefox
alt.comp.software.thunderbird
alt.comp.software.seamonkey

have been created, no doubt population around the various usenet servers 
will be slow.  At the moment they only exist on news.aioe.org and one or 
two other servers, I've requested them on a few servers that I use, but 
will request them on more servers over the next few days.  If they don't 
show up on servers that you use, feel free to request them there.



I found them also on
news.neodome.net




Treat the new groups as substitutes for

mozilla.support.firefox
mozilla.support.thunderbird
mozilla.support.seamonkey

Clearly the new groups are not affiliated with Mozilla in any way, and 
will provide user-to-user support, hoping to see familiar faces there, 
play nice ...




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Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-04-02 Thread Andy Burns

Bret Busby forwarded:


-- Forwarded message --
From: Chris Ilias 

Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).


The three new groups

alt.comp.software.firefox
alt.comp.software.thunderbird
alt.comp.software.seamonkey

have been created, no doubt population around the various usenet servers 
will be slow.  At the moment they only exist on news.aioe.org and one or 
two other servers, I've requested them on a few servers that I use, but 
will request them on more servers over the next few days.  If they don't 
show up on servers that you use, feel free to request them there.


Treat the new groups as substitutes for

mozilla.support.firefox
mozilla.support.thunderbird
mozilla.support.seamonkey

Clearly the new groups are not affiliated with Mozilla in any way, and 
will provide user-to-user support, hoping to see familiar faces there, 
play nice ...


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-04-02 Thread Ant

On 4/2/2021 5:16 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
...
An email list like groups.io is "push" - it lands in my inbox 
without me doing anything.  Blogs and forums are "pull".  I 

need to

go to them to see if anything has changed.  Life is too short for that.

Ray



How about that!

The blog has it's own feed!



Enjoy. :)


Yep, I use it too in IRC. How about that! :D


That's great for you.

How about providing a service to all the others here that might want to 
do that, and explain how you added it to Chat.


I don't see the link in the topic.


Use https://ruby-rbot.org/ (an IRC bot) and add and watch 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/feed/:


rss add seamonkeyblog https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/feed/
rss watch seamonkeyblog

The bot will check and alert of new posts from there. :)

Actually, SeaMonkey has its own RSS reader too!
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Re: seamonkey-dev, and seamonkey-support lists/newsgroups

2021-04-02 Thread Richmond
Philip Taylor wrote:
> Edmund Wong wrote:
> 
>> Dear All,
>>
>> If you're not aware by now, please let me state that both the Mailing
>> Lists and Newsgroups will be decommissioned soon (Early April).
> 
> As one who has not used Usenet News since (probably) the 1980s, the
> closure of the Seamonkey newsgroup(s) is not of paramount concern to
> me.  However, e-mail is my primary communication medium, and the closure
> of the mailing lists would be a significant barrier to remaining
> informed of Seamonkey development (a topic dear to my heart, speaking as
> one who had used Netscape and its offspring ever since its inception). 
> However, I may well be in a minority, so I wonder if there is any
> mechanism by which Seamonkey developers and their followers might be
> polled to find out what fraction  rely on newsgroups, what fraction rely
> on e-mail, and what fraction use another medium by which to remain
> informed and/or contribute.  I suppose I should add that I have never
> used IRC, nor would I wish to do so.

It might be possible to send newsgroup postings to email.

https://tldp.org/HOWTO/Usenet-News-HOWTO/x714.html
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Re: Fwd: Seamonkey 2.53.6 win32 germany not install of old version 2.53.5.1 / 2.53.7 yes, nur english

2021-04-02 Thread Dirk Fieldhouse

On 31/03/2021 06:28, B. Grams wrote:

Hi, die Version 5.53.7 konnte ich ohne Probleme überinstallieren. Leider
ist jetzt alles nur noch in Englisch.


You need to install this language pack:
Sie mussen installieren dieses Sprachpaket:



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Re: Fwd: Seamonkey 2.53.6 win32 germany not install of old version 2.53.5.1 / 2.53.7 yes, nur english

2021-04-02 Thread Dirk Fieldhouse

On 31/03/2021 06:28, B. Grams wrote:

Hi, die Version 5.53.7 konnte ich ohne Probleme überinstallieren. Leider
ist jetzt alles nur noch in Englisch.


You need to install this language pack:
Sie mussen installieren dieses Sprachpaket:



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Re: Does a _VIABLE_ SeaMonkey USENET group already exist?

2021-04-02 Thread WaltS48

On 4/1/21 1:41 PM, dirkf.gm...@mailnull.com wrote:

On 01/04/2021 15:13, Chris Ilias wrote:

...> David E. Ross wrote:

The netscape.public.* hierarchy is on Usenet, and was on Usenet 
before this server existed. Those newsgroups will still be available 
on Usenet when this server shuts down.


The inability to close down or rename old newsgroups is one of the 
reasons why these groups are not fed to Usenet.


In addition, the mailing lists of some of the to-be-terminated 
newsgroups are gated through gmane, eg 
gmane.comp.mozilla.seamonkey.user, gmane.comp.mozilla.announce.


If replacement mailing lists are needed then Freelists 
 would seem to be the obvious solution, 
having a "business model" similar to that of SeaMonkey.


/df


Not needed here.

I have enough for Thunderbird at it's new home.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-04-02 Thread WaltS48

On 4/1/21 9:54 PM, Ant wrote:

On 4/1/2021 3:53 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/31/21 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,



A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this 


So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?

Ray

Forgot to mention in my other reply that I see SeaMonkey release 
announcements in the Planet Mozilla Projects news feed in my Blogs 
& News Feeds account.


Let me know if you need help setting up an account and subscribing 
to the feed.


Planet Mozilla Projects 

An email list like groups.io is "push" - it lands in my inbox 
without me doing anything.  Blogs and forums are "pull".  I 
need to 

go to them to see if anything has changed.  Life is too short for that.

Ray



How about that!

The blog has it's own feed!



Enjoy. :)


Yep, I use it too in IRC. How about that! :D


That's great for you.

How about providing a service to all the others here that might want to 
do that, and explain how you added it to Chat.


I don't see the link in the topic.

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Re: Does a _VIABLE_ SeaMonkey USENET group already exist?

2021-04-02 Thread dirkf . gmane

On 01/04/2021 15:13, Chris Ilias wrote:

...> David E. Ross wrote:

The netscape.public.* hierarchy is on Usenet, and was on Usenet before 
this server existed. Those newsgroups will still be available on Usenet 
when this server shuts down.


The inability to close down or rename old newsgroups is one of the 
reasons why these groups are not fed to Usenet.


In addition, the mailing lists of some of the to-be-terminated 
newsgroups are gated through gmane, eg 
gmane.comp.mozilla.seamonkey.user, gmane.comp.mozilla.announce.


If replacement mailing lists are needed then Freelists 
 would seem to be the obvious solution, 
having a "business model" similar to that of SeaMonkey.


/df

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Seamonkey 2.53.6 win32 germany not install of old version 2.53.5.1

2021-04-02 Thread B. Grams

ich habe heute die Version 5.53.6 auf meine Version 5.53.5.1 win32
installieren wollen. Installation bricht beim Installieren ab und die
alte Version ist wieder da!

Muß ich die alte Version erst deinstallieren, damit die Installation der
neuen Version klappt?

Ich möchte natürlich alle Einstellungen und Mails behalten.,

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Fwd: Fwd: Seamonkey 2.53.6 win32 germany not install of old version 2.53.5.1 / 2.53.7 yes, nur english

2021-04-02 Thread B. Grams

ok, ist nach Neustart doch alles auf deutsch. Sorry.

--- Begin Message ---

Hi, die Version 5.53.7 konnte ich ohne Probleme überinstallieren. Leider
ist jetzt alles nur noch in Englisch.

MfG. B. Grams
--- Begin Message ---

ich habe heute die Version 5.53.6 auf meine Version 5.53.5.1 win32
installieren wollen. Installation bricht beim Installieren ab und die
alte Version ist wieder da!

Muß ich die alte Version erst deinstallieren, damit die Installation der
neuen Version klappt?

Ich möchte natürlich alle Einstellungen und Mails behalten.,

MfG B. Grams
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--- End Message ---
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Fwd: Seamonkey 2.53.6 win32 germany not install of old version 2.53.5.1 / 2.53.7 yes, nur english

2021-04-02 Thread B. Grams

Hi, die Version 5.53.7 konnte ich ohne Probleme überinstallieren. Leider
ist jetzt alles nur noch in Englisch.

MfG. B. Grams
--- Begin Message ---

ich habe heute die Version 5.53.6 auf meine Version 5.53.5.1 win32
installieren wollen. Installation bricht beim Installieren ab und die
alte Version ist wieder da!

Muß ich die alte Version erst deinstallieren, damit die Installation der
neuen Version klappt?

Ich möchte natürlich alle Einstellungen und Mails behalten.,

MfG B. Grams
--- End Message ---
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Re: seamonkey-dev, and seamonkey-support lists/newsgroups

2021-04-02 Thread Philip Taylor

Edmund Wong wrote:


Dear All,

If you're not aware by now, please let me state that both the Mailing
Lists and Newsgroups will be decommissioned soon (Early April).


As one who has not used Usenet News since (probably) the 1980s, the 
closure of the Seamonkey newsgroup(s) is not of paramount concern to 
me.  However, e-mail is my primary communication medium, and the closure 
of the mailing lists would be a significant barrier to remaining 
informed of Seamonkey development (a topic dear to my heart, speaking as 
one who had used Netscape and its offspring ever since its inception).  
However, I may well be in a minority, so I wonder if there is any 
mechanism by which Seamonkey developers and their followers might be 
polled to find out what fraction  rely on newsgroups, what fraction rely 
on e-mail, and what fraction use another medium by which to remain 
informed and/or contribute.  I suppose I should add that I have never 
used IRC, nor would I wish to do so.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-04-01 Thread Ant

On 4/1/2021 3:53 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/31/21 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,



A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this 


So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?

Ray

Forgot to mention in my other reply that I see SeaMonkey release 
announcements in the Planet Mozilla Projects news feed in my Blogs & 
News Feeds account.


Let me know if you need help setting up an account and subscribing to 
the feed.


Planet Mozilla Projects 

An email list like groups.io is "push" - it lands in my inbox without 
me doing anything.  Blogs and forums are "pull".  I need to go to them 
to see if anything has changed.  Life is too short for that.


Ray



How about that!

The blog has it's own feed!



Enjoy. :)


Yep, I use it too in IRC. How about that! :D
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-04-01 Thread Ray Davison

WaltS48 wrote:



So you don't know what a Blog & News Feed account is, and don't know how 
to set one up?


I have a "Seamonkey feeds - Blogs and News feeds" section.  I have a 
couple things setup.


I don't recall why I never made more use of it.  Email is just so easy, 
and it threads so well.


And I prefer lists that work like .io rather than the Mozilla.org list. 
In .io the default reply is to the list.  In lists like Mozilla.org I 
regularly replied to the sender rather than the list by mistake.


Ray




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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-04-01 Thread Dirk Fieldhouse

On 01/04/2021 21:55, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:
...>
Thanks, and just to note that updating the Ubuntuzilla package 
(through its apt repository) without updating the corresponding 
language pack can result in the Compose window losing all contents and 
functionality.


Presumably one can break other builds in a similar way.

We tied the official language packs to the specific version in the 
latest builds. Should only happen if you have a language pack from 
2.53.1 to, I think, 2.53.3).


This was 2.53.6 to 2.53.7.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-04-01 Thread WaltS48

Ray Davison wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/31/21 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,



A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this 


So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?

Ray

Forgot to mention in my other reply that I see SeaMonkey release 
announcements in the Planet Mozilla Projects news feed in my Blogs & 
News Feeds account.


Let me know if you need help setting up an account and subscribing to 
the feed.


Planet Mozilla Projects 

An email list like groups.io is "push" - it lands in my inbox without me 
doing anything.  Blogs and forums are "pull".  I need to go to them to 
see if anything has changed.  Life is too short for that.


Ray



How about that!

The blog has it's own feed!



Enjoy. :)
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-04-01 Thread WaltS48

On 4/1/21 6:13 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/31/21 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,



A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this 


So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?

Ray

Forgot to mention in my other reply that I see SeaMonkey release 
announcements in the Planet Mozilla Projects news feed in my Blogs & 
News Feeds account.


Let me know if you need help setting up an account and subscribing to 
the feed.


Planet Mozilla Projects 

An email list like groups.io is "push" - it lands in my inbox without 
me doing anything.  Blogs and forums are "pull".  I need to go to them 
to see if anything has changed.  Life is too short for that.


Ray

So you don't know what a Blog & News Feed account is, and don't know how 
to set one up?


I get the push of the SeaMonkey blog in Planet Mozilla Projects via the 
feed.



 SeaMonkey — SeaMonkey 2.53.7
 has been released!
 
is
 one of the items I saw in my account in Thunderbird.

Another is,


 SeaMonkey  — SeaMonkey Support
 newsgroups and mailing lists…
 


I'm subscribed to 20 feeds. Some of which are temporary for testing bug 
reports, others give me a daily update on the bugs fixed for every 
Firefox and Thunderbird version, others are tech news sites. I even have 
one for BBC News.


You just want to bs between each other use what suits you.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-04-01 Thread Ray Davison

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/31/21 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,



A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this 


So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?

Ray

Forgot to mention in my other reply that I see SeaMonkey release 
announcements in the Planet Mozilla Projects news feed in my Blogs & 
News Feeds account.


Let me know if you need help setting up an account and subscribing to 
the feed.


Planet Mozilla Projects 

An email list like groups.io is "push" - it lands in my inbox without me 
doing anything.  Blogs and forums are "pull".  I need to go to them to 
see if anything has changed.  Life is too short for that.


Ray

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-04-01 Thread Bret Busby
On 02/04/2021, Bret Busby  wrote:
> On 02/04/2021, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com
>  wrote:
>> Bret Busby wrote:
>>> I have not been able to download and install the en-gb dictionary -
>>> whilst I have selected to download the dictionary, and it appears to
>>> happen, the installation appears to not implement. It does not show as
>>> an available language in the spellchecker.
>>>
>>> That applies to both this latest version, and, previous versions.
>>
>> If that's Marco Pinto's British English dictionary, you need to use
>> version 2.68 from
>> .
>>
>>   Newer versions are WebExtensions and, although they appear to install,
>> they don't work in SeaMonkey 2.53.
>>
>> If you've installed a newer version, it might appear in the "Extensions"
>> rather than "Dictionaries" section of Add-ons Manager, and you'll
>> probably need to remove it from there before installing the older 2.68.
>>
>> --
>> Mark.
>>
>
> How do I install that one?
>
> In trying to find an en-gb language pack, the only result found, is
> the latest version.
>

It's alright - I found and installed it.

And, it seems to work.

Thank you for your help.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-04-01 Thread Bret Busby
On 02/04/2021, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com
 wrote:
> Bret Busby wrote:
>> I have not been able to download and install the en-gb dictionary -
>> whilst I have selected to download the dictionary, and it appears to
>> happen, the installation appears to not implement. It does not show as
>> an available language in the spellchecker.
>>
>> That applies to both this latest version, and, previous versions.
>
> If that's Marco Pinto's British English dictionary, you need to use
> version 2.68 from
> .
>
>   Newer versions are WebExtensions and, although they appear to install,
> they don't work in SeaMonkey 2.53.
>
> If you've installed a newer version, it might appear in the "Extensions"
> rather than "Dictionaries" section of Add-ons Manager, and you'll
> probably need to remove it from there before installing the older 2.68.
>
> --
> Mark.
>

How do I install that one?

In trying to find an en-gb language pack, the only result found, is
the latest version.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-04-01 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne

Bret Busby wrote:

I have not been able to download and install the en-gb dictionary -
whilst I have selected to download the dictionary, and it appears to
happen, the installation appears to not implement. It does not show as
an available language in the spellchecker.

That applies to both this latest version, and, previous versions.


If that's Marco Pinto's British English dictionary, you need to use 
version 2.68 from 
. 
 Newer versions are WebExtensions and, although they appear to install, 
they don't work in SeaMonkey 2.53.


If you've installed a newer version, it might appear in the "Extensions" 
rather than "Dictionaries" section of Add-ons Manager, and you'll 
probably need to remove it from there before installing the older 2.68.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-04-01 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 31/03/2021 05:44, Edmund Wong wrote:


The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.7.
...


Thanks, and just to note that updating the Ubuntuzilla package (through its 
apt repository) without updating the corresponding language pack can result in 
the Compose window losing all contents and functionality.


Presumably one can break other builds in a similar way.

/df



Wie tied the official language packs to the specific version in the latest 
builds. Should only happen ist you have a language pack from 2.53.1 to, I 
think, 2.53.3).


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-04-01 Thread Bret Busby
On 02/04/2021, Dirk Fieldhouse
 wrote:
> On 31/03/2021 05:44, Edmund Wong wrote:
>
>> The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
>> 2.53.7.
>>...
>
> Thanks, and just to note that updating the Ubuntuzilla package (through
> its apt repository) without updating the corresponding language pack can
> result in the Compose window losing all contents and functionality.
>
> Presumably one can break other builds in a similar way.
>
> /df
>
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I have not been able to download and install the en-gb dictionary -
whilst I have selected to download the dictionary, and it appears to
happen, the installation appears to not implement. It does not show as
an available language in the spellchecker.

That applies to both this latest version, and, previous versions.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-04-01 Thread Dirk Fieldhouse

On 31/03/2021 05:44, Edmund Wong wrote:


The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.7.
...


Thanks, and just to note that updating the Ubuntuzilla package (through 
its apt repository) without updating the corresponding language pack can 
result in the Compose window losing all contents and functionality.


Presumably one can break other builds in a similar way.

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Re: Does a _VIABLE_ SeaMonkey USENET group already exist?

2021-04-01 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2021-04-01 9:48 a.m., Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

I found netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey on both nntp.aioe.org and
news.eternal-september.org.  Messages were posted there as recently as
today.


Not viable.  It is hosted on the Mozilla servers and is presumably 
going to be terminated at the same time.



The netscape.public.* hierarchy is on Usenet, and was on Usenet before 
this server existed. Those newsgroups will still be available on Usenet 
when this server shuts down.


The inability to close down or rename old newsgroups is one of the 
reasons why these groups are not fed to Usenet.



For more information, see 





I stand corrected.  I had seen that the netscape.public groups were on 
the Mozilla servers and had assumed that they "owned" the groups.


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Re: Does a _VIABLE_ SeaMonkey USENET group already exist?

2021-04-01 Thread Chris Ilias

On 2021-04-01 9:48 a.m., Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

I found netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey on both nntp.aioe.org and
news.eternal-september.org.  Messages were posted there as recently as
today.


Not viable.  It is hosted on the Mozilla servers and is presumably going 
to be terminated at the same time.



The netscape.public.* hierarchy is on Usenet, and was on Usenet before 
this server existed. Those newsgroups will still be available on Usenet 
when this server shuts down.


The inability to close down or rename old newsgroups is one of the 
reasons why these groups are not fed to Usenet.



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Re: Does a _VIABLE_ SeaMonkey USENET group already exist?

2021-04-01 Thread Richard Owlett

On 04/01/2021 08:48 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/30/2021 4:39 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

I access USENET via news.supernews.com .
It carries netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey .
Its activity has be quite low {~600 posts in last decade}.
Will whatever is causing the demise of mozilla.support.seamonkey be
automatically fatal to it also?
Is it carried by enough news servers to be viable?
Sub-question: Is it carried by popular free($) news servers?



I found netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey on both nntp.aioe.org and
news.eternal-september.org.  Messages were posted there as recently as
today.



Not viable.  It is hosted on the Mozilla servers and is presumably going 
to be terminated at the same time.




How do you determine where a list is hosted?



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Re: Opening about:xxxx via links

2021-04-01 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

EE wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/31/21 5:32 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
I have a low-priority question which is going to have to be asked 
now - before the forum dies.


If I want to make - say - "about:memory" clickable from a web page, 
how do I go about it?  I've tried the obvious href="about:memory">about:memory along with various other 
alternatives such as http://about:memory but none of them work.


The reason for this is that my Seamonkey becomes slow to 
non-responsive after a few hours and the least intrusive way of 
fixing this is to do a full cleanup of SM's memory usage.
Sometimes I mistype and pass the request along to a search engine, 
opening the page from my "home page" would be cleaner.  There are 
some other "about" options I use less often, putting them in the 
home-page would also be helpful.



Open the about:memory page and bookmark it?



Would be nice if I could add a pref-bar button for this.  Just tried 
it and went from 2.1G to 1.2G here.


Dave


Put the bookmark on the bookmarks toolbar.



That is what Walt suggested - as you can see.
I implemented that and it worked, then I replied to thank him.  That was 
yesterday and obviously did not work.


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Re: Does a _VIABLE_ SeaMonkey USENET group already exist?

2021-04-01 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/30/2021 4:39 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

I access USENET via news.supernews.com .
It carries netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey .
Its activity has be quite low {~600 posts in last decade}.
Will whatever is causing the demise of mozilla.support.seamonkey be
automatically fatal to it also?
Is it carried by enough news servers to be viable?
Sub-question: Is it carried by popular free($) news servers?



I found netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey on both nntp.aioe.org and
news.eternal-september.org.  Messages were posted there as recently as
today.



Not viable.  It is hosted on the Mozilla servers and is presumably going 
to be terminated at the same time.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-04-01 Thread WaltS48

On 3/31/21 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,



A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this 


So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?

Ray

Forgot to mention in my other reply that I see SeaMonkey release 
announcements in the Planet Mozilla Projects news feed in my Blogs & 
News Feeds account.


Let me know if you need help setting up an account and subscribing to 
the feed.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-04-01 Thread WaltS48

On 3/31/21 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,



A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this 


So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?

Ray

Because, they are a small volunteer group that doesn't need to be spread 
out more, have a blog and are on mozillaZine.


Blog 

mozillaZine 



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-04-01 Thread  Mr . Ed  via support-seamonkey
On 3/31/2021 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:
> Edmund Wong wrote:
>> Greetings,
>
>> A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
>> place to post this 
>
> So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?
>
> Ray
>

Sure, just create a new e-mail address to be used for mail coming from
groups.io.  No problem.

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Kill-filing threads

2021-04-01 Thread Daniel

Note: Follow-up set to m.d.a.seamonkey

In one of my UseNet groups, a couple of the contributors make some 
useful posts (so I don't want to totally Kill-file those posters) AND 
they make a lot (90%, maybe) of useless posts, i.e. SPAM, usually in 
specific threads.


For example, maybe, last year Poster A might have made a post announcing 
that that day was someone's birthday to which Poster B would respond 
that 'we' don't give a damn and to shut up. Then, this year, Poster A 
would make the same announcement, WITH THE SAME SUBJECT:, so that post 
joins on to the original THREAD (assuming I have 'Threads with Unread' 
View selected) ... and Poster B will make their same reply.


And next year, I'm betting the same thing will happen ... and so on and 
so on and so on.


I initially though by pressing 'k' or 'K', I would kill-file that 
thread, but all that does is 'Make as Read' those posts in that thread 
NOW. Any new posts under that same Subject: (next day, next year, 
whenever) will still appear as 'Unread' in that thread.


When I asked about this problem in m.s.seamonkey, I was advised to try 
'Ctrl-K' and on 'Shift-K', the former to, apparently, Kill-file the 
entire thread forever (or until the newsgroup is completely re-loaded) 
whilst the later would Kill-file that branch ('twig') of the thread but 
leave the rest of the thread untouched!


Using Shift-K seems to work on the 'twig'. Pressing Shift-K marks this 
sub-ordinate message and any messages sub-ordinate to it as well as read 
and the cursor moves on to the next unread message in the next 'twig' or 
the next thread.


Using Ctrl-K seems totally ineffective with the Cursor remaining on the 
message I had just selected


"No problem", I thought, "when I want to totally kill-file a thread 
forever, I'll just go back and select the Root post in the thread and 
then press Shift-K and, hopefully, that would Kill-file the entire 
thread" . and this sort of works except, if there were any other 
un-read posts in that thread, they are marked as read as desired (in 
fact they disappear from view, even though the rest of the thread 
structure remains visible) but there is still a number in the 'Unread" 
messages column (in the Threads Pane) indicating there are invisible 
unread messages in the thread.


Is this a SeaMonkey code problem or is it really a problem in the 
Thunderbird code??


If I select 'Shift-K' I would expect that sub-thread to disappear 
(forever) from view, any adjustment to the 'Unread' message number and 
total newsgroup Unread messages number as required and the Cursor to 
move to the next unread message.


If I select 'Ctrl-K' I would expect that entire thread to disappear 
(forever) from view, any adjustment total newsgroup Unread messages 
number (in the Accounts Pane) as required and the Cursor to move to the 
next unread message (i.e. next thread).

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-03-31 Thread Ray Davison

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,



A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this 


So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?

Ray

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Re: Opening about:xxxx via links

2021-03-31 Thread EE

David H. Durgee wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/31/21 5:32 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
I have a low-priority question which is going to have to be asked now 
- before the forum dies.


If I want to make - say - "about:memory" clickable from a web page, 
how do I go about it?  I've tried the obvious href="about:memory">about:memory along with various other 
alternatives such as http://about:memory but none of them work.


The reason for this is that my Seamonkey becomes slow to 
non-responsive after a few hours and the least intrusive way of 
fixing this is to do a full cleanup of SM's memory usage.
Sometimes I mistype and pass the request along to a search engine, 
opening the page from my "home page" would be cleaner.  There are 
some other "about" options I use less often, putting them in the 
home-page would also be helpful.



Open the about:memory page and bookmark it?



Would be nice if I could add a pref-bar button for this.  Just tried it 
and went from 2.1G to 1.2G here.


Dave


Put the bookmark on the bookmarks toolbar.

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Re: Opening about:xxxx via links

2021-03-31 Thread EE

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
I have a low-priority question which is going to have to be asked now - 
before the forum dies.


If I want to make - say - "about:memory" clickable from a web page, how 
do I go about it?  I've tried the obvious href="about:memory">about:memory along with various other 
alternatives such as http://about:memory but none of them work.


The reason for this is that my Seamonkey becomes slow to non-responsive 
after a few hours and the least intrusive way of fixing this is to do a 
full cleanup of SM's memory usage.
Sometimes I mistype and pass the request along to a search engine, 
opening the page from my "home page" would be cleaner.  There are some 
other "about" options I use less often, putting them in the home-page 
would also be helpful.



Bookmark it.  You can then click the bookmark.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-03-31 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 3/30/2021 9:44 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:


The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.7.


Thanks to all involved!


Jokes aside, it's been a blast posting here and I'm certainly
unhappy that it's going the same way as irc.mozilla.org.  But
perhaps the new 'thing' will be better?


Did I miss what the new 'thing' is?  FRG suggested mozillazine, and of 
course there is the blog.

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Re: Opening about:xxxx via links

2021-03-31 Thread Ant

On 3/31/2021 7:56 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/31/21 5:32 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
I have a low-priority question which is going to have to be asked 
now - before the forum dies.


If I want to make - say - "about:memory" clickable from a web page, 
how do I go about it?  I've tried the obvious href="about:memory">about:memory along with various other 
alternatives such as http://about:memory but none of them work.


The reason for this is that my Seamonkey becomes slow to 
non-responsive after a few hours and the least intrusive way of 
fixing this is to do a full cleanup of SM's memory usage.
Sometimes I mistype and pass the request along to a search engine, 
opening the page from my "home page" would be cleaner.  There are 
some other "about" options I use less often, putting them in the 
home-page would also be helpful.



Open the about:memory page and bookmark it?



Would be nice if I could add a pref-bar button for this.  Just tried 
it and went from 2.1G to 1.2G here.


Dave


Going from 2.1G to 1.2G is nice to have.
After a few hours, my Seamonkey will get "busy" for a second every few 
seconds. This is seriously annoying when I'm - for example - composing a 
mail.
What I have discovered is that running "Minimise memory usage" fixes the 
problem.  Before that I'd terminate and restart Seamonkey, specifying 
"Restore previous session".  That is not "nice to have", it's "must have".


Minimize doesn't always fix my issues. :(
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Re: V2.53.7's calendar!

2021-03-31 Thread Ant

On 3/31/2021 5:04 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/30/21 10:12 PM, Ant wrote:

On 3/30/2021 12:20 PM, rodney wrote:

...
Click on tools (top bar), Click on Add-ons Manager, click disable on 
Lightning (Integrated Calendaring & Scheduling for your Email client).


Thank you. Was there a reason why this add-on was included in v2.53.7?



Starting with Thunderbird 38, the calendaring extension Lightning 
 has been 
packaged with Thunderbird.
REF: 



It is no longer an extension and part of the code in the current 78.x.x.


Interesting and thanks! So, SM v2.53.7 got an upgraded e-mail and 
newsgroup part. Now, SM needs that upgraded Gecko engine. :)

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Re: Does a _VIABLE_ SeaMonkey USENET group already exist?

2021-03-31 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/30/2021 4:39 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I access USENET via news.supernews.com .
> It carries netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey .
> Its activity has be quite low {~600 posts in last decade}.
> Will whatever is causing the demise of mozilla.support.seamonkey be 
> automatically fatal to it also?
> Is it carried by enough news servers to be viable?
> Sub-question: Is it carried by popular free($) news servers?
> 

I found netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey on both nntp.aioe.org and
news.eternal-september.org.  Messages were posted there as recently as
today.

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While a "vaccination passport" to prove someone has been
vaccinated against COVID-19 seems to be a good idea, most
concepts involve smart phones.  What about those of us
who have been vaccinated but do not have a smart phone?
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Re: V2.53.7's calendar!

2021-03-31 Thread rodney via support-seamonkey

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/30/21 3:20 PM, rodney wrote:

Ant wrote:
Thanks, but my 64-bit SM v2.53.7 installation gave me calendar stuff 
in "Mails & Newsgroup". How do I remove it since I don't want it?



On 3/30/2021 7:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before 
upgrading from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This 
version of SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be 
reverted in cases where you need to go back to the older version.*


*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled 
for this release. Please download the full installer from the 
downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the 
previous version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes 



Enjoy!

...
Click on tools (top bar), Click on Add-ons Manager, click disable on 
Lightning (Integrated Calendaring & Scheduling for your Email client).



Where did you get a 2.53.8 Rodney?

The 2.53.8b1pre mentioned on mozillaZine?


http://www.wg9s.com/comm-253/
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Re: Upgrading From 2.49.5 to Latest Version

2021-03-31 Thread David H. Durgee

Chuck wrote:
Can one just install the latest version or must one install an 
intermediate version first and then the latest.

Also is there a source of the steps to follow when upgrading?
Chuck


See the release notes here:

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.7/

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Upgrading From 2.49.5 to Latest Version

2021-03-31 Thread Chuck
Can one just install the latest version or must one install an 
intermediate version first and then the latest.

Also is there a source of the steps to follow when upgrading?
Chuck
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Re: How can one overide Windows 10's block against installing the new Seamonkey version?

2021-03-31 Thread Bob Fleischer
The initial warning dialog offers "More..." -- if you click that, then 
you get the option to run anyway.

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Re: Opening about:xxxx via links

2021-03-31 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

David H. Durgee wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/31/21 5:32 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
I have a low-priority question which is going to have to be asked now 
- before the forum dies.


If I want to make - say - "about:memory" clickable from a web page, 
how do I go about it?  I've tried the obvious href="about:memory">about:memory along with various other 
alternatives such as http://about:memory but none of them work.


The reason for this is that my Seamonkey becomes slow to 
non-responsive after a few hours and the least intrusive way of 
fixing this is to do a full cleanup of SM's memory usage.
Sometimes I mistype and pass the request along to a search engine, 
opening the page from my "home page" would be cleaner.  There are 
some other "about" options I use less often, putting them in the 
home-page would also be helpful.



Open the about:memory page and bookmark it?



Would be nice if I could add a pref-bar button for this.  Just tried it 
and went from 2.1G to 1.2G here.


Dave


Going from 2.1G to 1.2G is nice to have.
After a few hours, my Seamonkey will get "busy" for a second every few 
seconds. This is seriously annoying when I'm - for example - composing a 
mail.
What I have discovered is that running "Minimise memory usage" fixes the 
problem.  Before that I'd terminate and restart Seamonkey, specifying 
"Restore previous session".  That is not "nice to have", it's "must have".


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Re: Opening about:xxxx via links

2021-03-31 Thread David H. Durgee

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/31/21 5:32 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
I have a low-priority question which is going to have to be asked now 
- before the forum dies.


If I want to make - say - "about:memory" clickable from a web page, 
how do I go about it?  I've tried the obvious href="about:memory">about:memory along with various other 
alternatives such as http://about:memory but none of them work.


The reason for this is that my Seamonkey becomes slow to 
non-responsive after a few hours and the least intrusive way of fixing 
this is to do a full cleanup of SM's memory usage.
Sometimes I mistype and pass the request along to a search engine, 
opening the page from my "home page" would be cleaner.  There are some 
other "about" options I use less often, putting them in the home-page 
would also be helpful.



Open the about:memory page and bookmark it?



Would be nice if I could add a pref-bar button for this.  Just tried it 
and went from 2.1G to 1.2G here.


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Re: How can one overide Windows 10's block against installing the new Seamonkey version?

2021-03-31 Thread Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey

Click on "More info" then "Install anyway"

On 3/31/2021 12:14 AM, Julia Bolton Holloway wrote:
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Re: Opening about:xxxx via links

2021-03-31 Thread WaltS48

On 3/31/21 5:32 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
I have a low-priority question which is going to have to be asked now 
- before the forum dies.


If I want to make - say - "about:memory" clickable from a web page, 
how do I go about it?  I've tried the obvious href="about:memory">about:memory along with various other 
alternatives such as http://about:memory but none of them work.


The reason for this is that my Seamonkey becomes slow to 
non-responsive after a few hours and the least intrusive way of fixing 
this is to do a full cleanup of SM's memory usage.
Sometimes I mistype and pass the request along to a search engine, 
opening the page from my "home page" would be cleaner.  There are some 
other "about" options I use less often, putting them in the home-page 
would also be helpful.



Open the about:memory page and bookmark it?

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Re: V2.53.7's calendar!

2021-03-31 Thread WaltS48

On 3/30/21 10:12 PM, Ant wrote:

On 3/30/2021 12:20 PM, rodney wrote:

...
Click on tools (top bar), Click on Add-ons Manager, click disable on 
Lightning (Integrated Calendaring & Scheduling for your Email client).


Thank you. Was there a reason why this add-on was included in v2.53.7?



Starting with Thunderbird 38, the calendaring extension Lightning 
 has been 
packaged with Thunderbird.

REF: 

It is no longer an extension and part of the code in the current 78.x.x.

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Re: How can one overide Windows 10's block against installing the new Seamonkey version?

2021-03-31 Thread Dominique via support-seamonkey

On 3/31/2021 7:14 AM, Julia Bolton Holloway wrote:


--- possible answer ---
It may be needed to right click on the SeaMonkey installer file ( .exe 
file) and select properties, then tick "unblock" and apply / save and 
finally re-run the exe installer


Hope this helps,

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Opening about:xxxx via links

2021-03-31 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son
I have a low-priority question which is going to have to be asked now - 
before the forum dies.


If I want to make - say - "about:memory" clickable from a web page, how 
do I go about it?  I've tried the obvious href="about:memory">about:memory along with various other 
alternatives such as http://about:memory but none of them work.


The reason for this is that my Seamonkey becomes slow to non-responsive 
after a few hours and the least intrusive way of fixing this is to do a 
full cleanup of SM's memory usage.
Sometimes I mistype and pass the request along to a search engine, 
opening the page from my "home page" would be cleaner.  There are some 
other "about" options I use less often, putting them in the home-page 
would also be helpful.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-03-31 Thread Bret Busby
On 31/03/2021, Edmund Wong  wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
> 2.53.7.
>
> This isn't going to be a quick canned notification as there is
> significance in this post.
>
> What's so significant?
>
> This could be my last "New release" post here on the newsgroups
> (well, unless we release something between now and prior to
> newsgroup shutdown).
>
> I can't seem to shake the feeling of the fond memories of
> posting here about the new Releases.  First it was KaiRo,
> then Callek.  Then me.
>
> A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
> place to post this (well, aside for on the blog).

As posted to the list, on 30 March;

I have created a new replacement list for this list, this list being
due to be shut down as of 03 March 2021.

The new list web page address is
https://groups.io/g/seamonkey-support

Please read the group description on that web page, before subscribing.

I have enabled the option to allow for the group/mailing list to be
sponsored, to provide for more than 100 subscribers, should it get
that many. I would not be concerned with that aspect, until the number
of subscribers approaches 100, if it does.

Subscribers to this mailing list, are invited to visit the above web
page, and subscribe to the group/mailing list.

To subscribe to the replacement mailing list, go to the above web
page, read the group description, and, if you accept that, click on
the link where it says "Subscribe, which should generate an email
message for you to send, to subscribe. You should then receive a
subscription request confirmation message, for you to send a reply, to
confirm your subscription.



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Re: seamonkey-dev, and seamonkey-support lists/newsgroups

2021-03-30 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/29/2021 11:49 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> If you're not aware by now, please let me state that both the Mailing
> Lists and Newsgroups will be decommissioned soon (Early April).
> 
> Why?
> ===
> 
> Why indeed.  Tbh, I don't know why.  I would believe it's related
> to the overhead of maintenance and such; but whatever the
> reasons are, it's a fact.  This is going to go to /dev/null.
> 
> 
> What to do?
> ==
> 
> We're in the process of finding alternatives to these methods of
> communications.
> 
> Yes, I'm quite dismayed at the loss of the newsgroups; but I'm
> sure we'll make do with what we come up with as an alternative.
> 
> So please monitor any updates to https://blog.seamonkey-project.org.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Edmund
> 

Why not create alt.seamonkey.support and alt.seamonkey.develop?
Alternatively, ask at news.groups.proposals on any general NNTP server
to create comp.seamonkey.support and comp.seamonkey.develop, which could
then be moderated (but not by Chris Ilias).

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While a "vaccination passport" to prove someone has been
vaccinated against COVID-19 seems to be a good idea, most
concepts involve smart phones.  What about those of us
who have been vaccinated but do not have a smart phone?
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How can one overide Windows 10's block against installing the new Seamonkey version?

2021-03-30 Thread Julia Bolton Holloway
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SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-03-30 Thread Edmund Wong
Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.7.

This isn't going to be a quick canned notification as there is
significance in this post.

What's so significant?

This could be my last "New release" post here on the newsgroups
(well, unless we release something between now and prior to
newsgroup shutdown).

I can't seem to shake the feeling of the fond memories of
posting here about the new Releases.  First it was KaiRo,
then Callek.  Then me.

A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this (well, aside for on the blog).  Hey,
how about I gather everyone's email addresses and spam^H^H^H^H,
post new release updates that way?   :D [You can put down
those pitchforks...  I was just joking... really]

Jokes aside, it's been a blast posting here and I'm certainly
unhappy that it's going the same way as irc.mozilla.org.  But
perhaps the new 'thing' will be better?

Anyway, the end of an era.

[Unless Mozilla changes its mind and say to us "Just kidding,
the newsgroups are here to stay!"]

And as RattyAway [Where are you?] once said..  "Hope springs
eternal.."   [ok.. he might not have said that...  but let's
roll with that.  It's not like he's going to post on here
and rebut thhat ]

I'd like to thank Mozilla for having this medium to allow
us to all talk about SeaMonkey.

"So smoke me a kipper and I'll be back for breakfast!"

Or was it

"Thanks for all the fishes!"


So please check out [1] or [2].

Thanks to all involved.

Edmund


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.7
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.7/
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Re: V2.53.7's calendar!

2021-03-30 Thread Daniel

Ant wrote on 31/3/21 1:12 pm:

On 3/30/2021 12:20 PM, rodney wrote:

...
Click on tools (top bar), Click on Add-ons Manager, click disable on 
Lightning (Integrated Calendaring & Scheduling for your Email client).


Thank you. Was there a reason why this add-on was included in v2.53.7?


I seem to recall Lightning/Calendar being integrated into SeaMonkey 
early on in the 2.53.x series.


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.53.6 Build identifier: 20210117210643


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
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Re: Does a _VIABLE_ SeaMonkey USENET group already exist?

2021-03-30 Thread Daniel

Richard Owlett wrote on 30/3/21 10:39 pm:

I access USENET via news.supernews.com .
It carries netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey .
Its activity has be quite low {~600 posts in last decade}.
Will whatever is causing the demise of mozilla.support.seamonkey be 
automatically fatal to it also?

Is it carried by enough news servers to be viable?
Sub-question: Is it carried by popular free($) news servers?

I.m reading n.p.m.seamonkey on Eternal-September which, I think, is a 
freebie!


Must get on ... I've got 13 messages to read there, today, and 15 on 
alt.fan.mozilla as well!

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Re: V2.53.7's calendar!

2021-03-30 Thread Ant

On 3/30/2021 12:20 PM, rodney wrote:

...
Click on tools (top bar), Click on Add-ons Manager, click disable on 
Lightning (Integrated Calendaring & Scheduling for your Email client).


Thank you. Was there a reason why this add-on was included in v2.53.7?
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After the trojan IcedID copy only mail/newsgrou p-parts

2021-03-30 Thread Ray_Net

Hello,
I was so stupid, that I let install the IcedID trojan on my pc.
MalwareBytes removed it (may be not completely.
My anti-virus told me that some site had installed an extension into 
google-chrome and let me remove it.
So I plant to backup bookmarks by export/import in html and to copy the 
current profile.

Next step add/remove seamonkey program. followed with deleting
the C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\ directory
Install a fresh seamonkey. the new profile will be empty.
What can i do to retrieve all the mail/newsgroup part ?
When I importe the bookmark.html file, it would re-instate bookmark 
toolbar, bookmark menu and other bookmarks ?

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Re: V2.53.7's calendar!

2021-03-30 Thread WaltS48

On 3/30/21 3:20 PM, rodney wrote:

Ant wrote:
Thanks, but my 64-bit SM v2.53.7 installation gave me calendar stuff 
in "Mails & Newsgroup". How do I remove it since I don't want it?



On 3/30/2021 7:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before 
upgrading from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This 
version of SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be 
reverted in cases where you need to go back to the older version.*


*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled 
for this release. Please download the full installer from the 
downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the 
previous version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes 



Enjoy!

...
Click on tools (top bar), Click on Add-ons Manager, click disable on 
Lightning (Integrated Calendaring & Scheduling for your Email client).



Where did you get a 2.53.8 Rodney?

The 2.53.8b1pre mentioned on mozillaZine?

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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

2021-03-30 Thread WaltS48

On 3/30/21 1:02 PM, Ant wrote:

On 3/30/2021 7:29 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
...
So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after 
this newsgroup is gone?


What? You didn't read the 
 
post?


Edmund hasn't posted about this release in his 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/. :(



Awww, I feel so bad for you.

Maybe he hasn't had time yet.

I found it posted on mozillaZine by the user EITxolo, and made it here 
just in case he decided not to bother with this group.


Maybe EITxolo is Edmund's alter ego there and new versions always get 
announced there.


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Re: V2.53.7's calendar!

2021-03-30 Thread rodney via support-seamonkey

Ant wrote:
Thanks, but my 64-bit SM v2.53.7 installation gave me calendar stuff in 
"Mails & Newsgroup". How do I remove it since I don't want it?



On 3/30/2021 7:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before 
upgrading from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This version 
of SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be reverted in 
cases where you need to go back to the older version.*


*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled for 
this release. Please download the full installer from the downloads 
section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the previous 
version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes 



Enjoy!

...
Click on tools (top bar), Click on Add-ons Manager, click disable on 
Lightning (Integrated Calendaring & Scheduling for your Email client).


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V2.53.7's calendar!

2021-03-30 Thread Ant
Thanks, but my 64-bit SM v2.53.7 installation gave me calendar stuff in 
"Mails & Newsgroup". How do I remove it since I don't want it?



On 3/30/2021 7:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before upgrading 
from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This version of 
SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be reverted in 
cases where you need to go back to the older version.*


*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled for 
this release. Please download the full installer from the downloads 
section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the previous version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes 



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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

2021-03-30 Thread Ant

On 3/30/2021 7:29 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
...
So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after this 
newsgroup is gone?


What? You didn't read the 
 post?


Edmund hasn't posted about this release in his 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/. :(

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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

2021-03-30 Thread NFN Smith

Bret Busby wrote:




Depending on which operating system platform you are using, and, how it 
is done for the operating system that you use, in Ubuntu Linux, I have 
added the sourceforge  ubuntuzilla repository to my sources file, for 
upgrades, so that, whenever I perform a system upgrade, that repository 
is checked for upgrades to Seamonkey, and, in performing a system 
upgrade on my other computer, at present, I have observed that it is 
performing an upgrade to Seamonkey.




For Ubuntu-related stuff, I concur on Ubuntuzilla.  Part of it is that I 
have a strong bias towards getting updates via repositories, and I 
consider the methodology of manual download and install to be something 
to be relegated to Windows.  Plus, working via repository makes it easy 
to review version numbers, as well as uninstall, if needed, via the 
package manager.


I started using Ubuntuzilla several years ago when Ubuntu's maintainers 
quit supporting Seamonkey.  I've found it to be reliable, and pretty 
quick -- enough that when a new version of Seamonkey is released, it 
often gets updated on my Ubuntu installation before I get around to 
doing the manual process of download and install in Windows.  And for 
what it's worth, since my Ubuntu installation is still 18.04 and the 
officially-supported version of Thunderbird is still 68.10, I used 
Ubuntuzilla to upgrade to the current 78.x installations.


I have Mint on a VM, and I haven't tried Ubuntuzilla on the Mint 
installation, because I don't run Seamonkey there, but I have no reason 
to believe that it shouldn't behave the same way there as it does in Ubuntu.


On Windows, there are tools for maintaining package updates that I'm 
aware of.  PatchMyPc and Ninite don't include Seamonkey. SUMo (Software 
Update Monitor -- not to be confused with SUpport.MOzilla.org) does 
include Seamonkey, but an unpaid version only shows available updates, 
and it takes a paid copy to be able to download/install.


I also checked chocolatey -- it's the most Linux-like in its approach 
(and takes a little more configuration work), and it's been a couple of 
years since I played with it, but the support web page does report that 
they can do Seamonkey.


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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

2021-03-30 Thread WaltS48

On 3/30/21 11:45 AM, Bret Busby wrote:

On 30/03/2021, WaltS48  wrote:

On 3/30/21 11:03 AM, Bret Busby wrote:

On 30/3/21 10:15 pm, Bob Fleischer wrote:

On 3/30/2021 10:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before
upgrading from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This
version of SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be
reverted in cases where you need to go back to the older version.*

*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled
for this release. Please download the full installer from the
downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the
previous version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes


Enjoy!

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So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after
this newsgroup is gone?

Bob

Depending on which operating system platform you are using, and, how
it is done for the operating system that you use, in Ubuntu Linux, I
have added the sourceforge  ubuntuzilla repository to my sources file,
for upgrades, so that, whenever I perform a system upgrade, that
repository is checked for upgrades to Seamonkey, and, in performing a
system upgrade on my other computer, at present, I have observed that
it is performing an upgrade to Seamonkey.


Which means the repo has a maintainer.

Updates to direct installs from SeaMonkey on any operating system have
been disabled for a long time.

Might the repo maintainer be able to fix it for all of us, or does it do
a complete install over the current version?


It shows (it was done as a command line upgrade, on both of my
computers that I have just upgraded) as an upgrade, rather than as a
new package installation (which is what is shown, for kernel
upgrades).

The package is seamonkey-mozilla-build amd 64 2.53.7-0ubuntu1  so what
I have upgraded, is specific to Ubuntu Linux (as is ubuntuzilla, I
believe), and, I expect that it would not work with Fedora Linux
(which is from (some years ago) Red Hat Linux), which, I believe, uses
rpm packages, rather than deb packages.

What I suggest, is that, for each operating system, the Seamonkey user
does a google search for
seamonkey  upgrade
and, hopefully, the results returned, will include a howto, that steps
through the instructions for installing/upgrading seamonkey, for the
particular operating system.

I believe that that is how I found the Sourceforge ubuntuzilla
repository, and, how to apply it, for installing and upgrading
seamonkry on Ubuntu Linux.

I'll stick with getting the application from the SeaMonkey Project site, 
and install until/if updates work again.


I only have it installed to provide what little support I can, not being 
a user.


With this newsgroup gone, that only leaves the SeaMonkey topic on 
mozillaZine to deal with. That's not very active and there are more 
knowledgeable users there.


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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

2021-03-30 Thread Bret Busby
On 30/03/2021, WaltS48  wrote:
> On 3/30/21 11:03 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
>> On 30/3/21 10:15 pm, Bob Fleischer wrote:
>>> On 3/30/2021 10:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
> *You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before
> upgrading from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This
> version of SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be
> reverted in cases where you need to go back to the older version.*
>
> *Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled
> for this release. Please download the full installer from the
> downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the
> previous version.*
>
 SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes
 

 Enjoy!

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>>>
>>> So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after
>>> this newsgroup is gone?
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>> Depending on which operating system platform you are using, and, how
>> it is done for the operating system that you use, in Ubuntu Linux, I
>> have added the sourceforge  ubuntuzilla repository to my sources file,
>> for upgrades, so that, whenever I perform a system upgrade, that
>> repository is checked for upgrades to Seamonkey, and, in performing a
>> system upgrade on my other computer, at present, I have observed that
>> it is performing an upgrade to Seamonkey.
>>
> Which means the repo has a maintainer.
>
> Updates to direct installs from SeaMonkey on any operating system have
> been disabled for a long time.
>
> Might the repo maintainer be able to fix it for all of us, or does it do
> a complete install over the current version?
>
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It shows (it was done as a command line upgrade, on both of my
computers that I have just upgraded) as an upgrade, rather than as a
new package installation (which is what is shown, for kernel
upgrades).

The package is seamonkey-mozilla-build amd 64 2.53.7-0ubuntu1  so what
I have upgraded, is specific to Ubuntu Linux (as is ubuntuzilla, I
believe), and, I expect that it would not work with Fedora Linux
(which is from (some years ago) Red Hat Linux), which, I believe, uses
rpm packages, rather than deb packages.

What I suggest, is that, for each operating system, the Seamonkey user
does a google search for
seamonkey  upgrade
and, hopefully, the results returned, will include a howto, that steps
through the instructions for installing/upgrading seamonkey, for the
particular operating system.

I believe that that is how I found the Sourceforge ubuntuzilla
repository, and, how to apply it, for installing and upgrading
seamonkry on Ubuntu Linux.

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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

2021-03-30 Thread WaltS48

On 3/30/21 11:03 AM, Bret Busby wrote:

On 30/3/21 10:15 pm, Bob Fleischer wrote:

On 3/30/2021 10:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before 
upgrading from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This 
version of SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be 
reverted in cases where you need to go back to the older version.*


*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled 
for this release. Please download the full installer from the 
downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the 
previous version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes 



Enjoy!

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So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after 
this newsgroup is gone?


Bob


Depending on which operating system platform you are using, and, how 
it is done for the operating system that you use, in Ubuntu Linux, I 
have added the sourceforge  ubuntuzilla repository to my sources file, 
for upgrades, so that, whenever I perform a system upgrade, that 
repository is checked for upgrades to Seamonkey, and, in performing a 
system upgrade on my other computer, at present, I have observed that 
it is performing an upgrade to Seamonkey.



Which means the repo has a maintainer.

Updates to direct installs from SeaMonkey on any operating system have 
been disabled for a long time.


Might the repo maintainer be able to fix it for all of us, or does it do 
a complete install over the current version?


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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

2021-03-30 Thread Bret Busby

On 30/3/21 10:15 pm, Bob Fleischer wrote:

On 3/30/2021 10:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before 
upgrading from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This version 
of SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be reverted in 
cases where you need to go back to the older version.*


*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled for 
this release. Please download the full installer from the downloads 
section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the previous 
version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes 



Enjoy!

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So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after this 
newsgroup is gone?


Bob


Depending on which operating system platform you are using, and, how it 
is done for the operating system that you use, in Ubuntu Linux, I have 
added the sourceforge  ubuntuzilla repository to my sources file, for 
upgrades, so that, whenever I perform a system upgrade, that repository 
is checked for upgrades to Seamonkey, and, in performing a system 
upgrade on my other computer, at present, I have observed that it is 
performing an upgrade to Seamonkey.


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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

2021-03-30 Thread WaltS48

On 3/30/21 10:15 AM, Bob Fleischer wrote:

On 3/30/2021 10:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before 
upgrading from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This version 
of SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be reverted in 
cases where you need to go back to the older version.*


*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled 
for this release. Please download the full installer from the 
downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the 
previous version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes 



Enjoy!

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So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after this 
newsgroup is gone?


Bob



What? You didn't read the 
 post?


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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

2021-03-30 Thread Bob Fleischer

On 3/30/2021 10:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before upgrading 
from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This version of SeaMonkey 
makes changes to your profile that can't be reverted in cases where you 
need to go back to the older version.*


*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled for this 
release. Please download the full installer from the downloads section and 
install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the previous version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes 



Enjoy!

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So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after this 
newsgroup is gone?


Bob
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What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

2021-03-30 Thread WaltS48
*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before upgrading 
from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This version of 
SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be reverted in 
cases where you need to go back to the older version.*


*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled for 
this release. Please download the full installer from the downloads 
section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the previous version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes 



Enjoy!

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Does a _VIABLE_ SeaMonkey USENET group already exist?

2021-03-30 Thread Richard Owlett

I access USENET via news.supernews.com .
It carries netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey .
Its activity has be quite low {~600 posts in last decade}.
Will whatever is causing the demise of mozilla.support.seamonkey be 
automatically fatal to it also?

Is it carried by enough news servers to be viable?
Sub-question: Is it carried by popular free($) news servers?

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Re: Kill-filing threads for good??

2021-03-30 Thread Daniel

Daniel wrote on 25/3/21 5:24 pm:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 25/3/21 4:21 am:

Daniel wrote:
Quite often, on UseNet, I come across threads which I don't have the 
slightest interest in. Usually, I hit 'k' to kill-file the thread.


But, then someone posts into that thread and I see it again.

How do I kill-file a thread, in my SeaMonkey, so I never see it again 
. until I completely reload that newsgroup?? CTRL-K, maybe or 
Shift-k??


TIA.


When I hit K I never see that thread or any remnants of it again.
Gone forever unless I manually edit the RC file.
Walt may right on it being a bug.

Well, that's two that think it works against just me suggesting it 
doesn't  so I *must* be wrong!! ;-(


Maybe I'll give CTRL-K and/or Shift-K a go!!


(Realising this service will be closing down in a few'ish days!!)

I've been using Shift-k a go for a few days ... and it seems to be 
kill-filing the branches of a Thread, so I think it is working correctly.


However, when I want to totally killfile a thread with lots of branches 
that should indicate I want to be using Ctrl-k, but Ctrl-k doesn't seem 
to do anything.


I noticed this failure in a thread that which had several 
"twigs"/sub-threads, where I had to mark each one in sequence.


These are just 'theories' a.t.t, but I'll keep testing. Maybe I need to 
use Upper case 'K' to get the proper action!! I'll let you know  if 
this place is still open when I come to further conclusions!!

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seamonkey-dev, and seamonkey-support lists/newsgroups

2021-03-30 Thread Edmund Wong
Dear All,

If you're not aware by now, please let me state that both the Mailing
Lists and Newsgroups will be decommissioned soon (Early April).

Why?
===

Why indeed.  Tbh, I don't know why.  I would believe it's related
to the overhead of maintenance and such; but whatever the
reasons are, it's a fact.  This is going to go to /dev/null.


What to do?
==

We're in the process of finding alternatives to these methods of
communications.

Yes, I'm quite dismayed at the loss of the newsgroups; but I'm
sure we'll make do with what we come up with as an alternative.

So please monitor any updates to https://blog.seamonkey-project.org.

Thanks!

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Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-29 Thread Chris Ilias

On 2021-03-28 8:52 a.m., Bret Busby wrote:

Please see the message below.

I note that this list is hosted on lists.mozilla.org

-- Forwarded message --
From: Chris Ilias 
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:11:20 -0400
Subject: **THIS FORUM WILL BE SHUT DOWN SOON**
To: mozilla-support-fire...@lists.mozilla.org

*WHAT IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).


Hi everyone,
I'm pretty sure Edmund Wong is the administrator of this list, so any 
announcements should come from him.


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Re: Replacement for the Seamonkey support mailing list as hosted by Mozilla - was - Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-29 Thread WaltS48

On 3/29/21 12:19 PM, Bret Busby wrote:

Hello.

I have not seen any response from the list administrator, to either of 
my two messages above.


This is not a criticism of the list administrator - it is merely an 
observation and explanation, of what follows.


I have created a new replacement list for this list, this list being 
due to be shut down as of 03 March 2021.


The new list web page address is
https://groups.io/g/seamonkey-support

Please read the group description on that web page, before subscribing.

I have enabled the option to allow for the group/mailing list to be 
sponsored, to provide for more than 100 subscribers, should it get 
that many. I would not be concerned with that aspect, until the number 
of subscribers approaches 100, if it does. 



Well have you gone to the Wiki link I think I posted, and searched for 
the list administrators email address and emailed them?


I had no problem finding the admin address from the Wiki 
. Where they haven't 
announced the pending shutdown as yet.

You better hurry time is running out.

I'll even make it easier for you.

You want the SeaMonkey Forum 
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Re: Replacement for the Seamonkey support mailing list as hosted by Mozilla - was - Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-29 Thread Bret Busby
On 30/03/2021, Rob Steinmetz  wrote:
> Any hope of getting Mozilla to open a Seamonkey forum at
> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/?
>


If you want to move to a forum, you might want to visit
http://forums.mozillazine.org/index.php?c=3
and view the part relating to Seamonkey.

( -> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=40 )

I found the first web page above, from the web page at
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/community

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Re: Replacement for the Seamonkey support mailing list as hosted by Mozilla - was - Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-29 Thread Rob Steinmetz
Any hope of getting Mozilla to open a Seamonkey forum at 
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/?


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Re: Replacement for the Seamonkey support mailing list as hosted by Mozilla - was - Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-29 Thread Bret Busby

On 30/3/21 4:41 am, Andy Burns wrote:

Bret Busby wrote:


Andy Burns wrote:


Bret Busby wrote:


Did he reply to this list? I have not seen any reply on this list.


No, in m.s.firefox


What is that?


mozilla.support.firefox, but if you're a mailing list user, rather than 
an newsgroup user, you may know it as support-fire...@lists.mozilla.org




I am also subscribed to that list, as you will have seen, if you are 
subscribed to that list.


I do not remember seeing any message posted to that list, by anyone who 
identified himself or herself, as the list administrator of this list.


And, as no reply was posted to this list, in response to my post to this 
list, then, clearly, as no message has been posted to this list, by 
anyone identified as the list administrator of this list, and, as both 
the questions posted to this list, remain unanswered on this list, by 
the list administrator of this list, then, as I said,
"I have not seen any response from the list administrator, to either of 
my two messages above. ".


QED.


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Re: Replacement for the Seamonkey support mailing list as hosted by Mozilla - was - Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-29 Thread Andy Burns

Bret Busby wrote:


Andy Burns wrote:


Bret Busby wrote:


Did he reply to this list? I have not seen any reply on this list.


No, in m.s.firefox


What is that?


mozilla.support.firefox, but if you're a mailing list user, rather than 
an newsgroup user, you may know it as support-fire...@lists.mozilla.org


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Re: Replacement for the Seamonkey support mailing list as hosted by Mozilla - was - Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-29 Thread Bret Busby

On 30/3/21 4:28 am, Andy Burns wrote:

Bret Busby wrote:


Andy Burns wrote:


Bret Busby wrote:

I have not seen any response from the list administrator, to either 
of my two messages above.


He has replied, to emphasise that they're not official mozilla lists.


Did he reply to this list? I have not seen any reply on this list.


No, in m.s.firefox




What is that?

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Re: Replacement for the Seamonkey support mailing list as hosted by Mozilla - was - Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-29 Thread Andy Burns

Bret Busby wrote:


Andy Burns wrote:


Bret Busby wrote:

I have not seen any response from the list administrator, to either 
of my two messages above.


He has replied, to emphasise that they're not official mozilla lists.


Did he reply to this list? I have not seen any reply on this list.


No, in m.s.firefox


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Re: Replacement for the Seamonkey support mailing list as hosted by Mozilla - was - Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-29 Thread Bret Busby

On 30/3/21 4:08 am, Andy Burns wrote:

Bret Busby wrote:

I have not seen any response from the list administrator, to either of 
my two messages above.


He has replied, to emphasise that they're not official mozilla lists.




Did he reply to this list? I have not seen any reply on this list.

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Re: Replacement for the Seamonkey support mailing list as hosted by Mozilla - was - Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-29 Thread Andy Burns

Bret Busby wrote:

I have not seen any response from the list administrator, to either of 
my two messages above.


He has replied, to emphasise that they're not official mozilla lists.

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Re: Replacement for the Seamonkey support mailing list as hosted by Mozilla - was - Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-29 Thread Bret Busby

On 30/3/21 12:19 am, Bret Busby wrote:

On 29/3/21 3:47 am, Bret Busby wrote:

On 28/03/2021, Bret Busby  wrote:

Please see the message below.

I note that this list is hosted on lists.mozilla.org

-- Forwarded message --
From: Chris Ilias 
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:11:20 -0400
Subject: **THIS FORUM WILL BE SHUT DOWN SOON**
To: mozilla-support-fire...@lists.mozilla.org

*WHAT IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).


*WHEN IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN*
lists.mozilla.org: April 3
news.mozilla.org: Sometime after April 3


*WHAT YOU WILL EXPERIENCE*
Because all posts to this newsgroup go through the mailing list, no
messages will be approved after April 3. You will still be able to
access news.mozilla.org, but there will be no new posts in this
newsgroup after that. If you try to post a message, it will just not
appear.

Sometime after that, Giganews will shut down news.mozilla.org, and you
will no longer be able to access the newsgroup.


*WHERE TO FIND THE ARCHIVE*
The archive of this newsgroup will be kept intact at
https://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/
As with other newsgroups that have been shuttered in the past, the
archive will be read-only.

If you're using Thunderbird, you can also download all messages before
the news server is shut down.
1. In your Local Folders account, create a new folder called
"mozilla.support.firefox"
2. Open the newsgroup, then go to Edit-->Select-->All.
3. Go to Message-->Move_to-->Local_Folders-->mozilla.support.firefox
NOTE: There are over 190,000 messages, so it will take a long time to
download. You may want to select batches of messages instead of
selecting all.


*WHERE TO GO FOR SUPPORT*
The primary Firefox support forum is at
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/firefox?show=all
Other languages can be found at
https://support.mozilla.org/kb/get-community-support

If you prefer newsgroups, there may be newsgroups on Usenet where you
can find Firefox support. If not, try netscape.public.mozilla.browser.


*WHY THIS IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla has been migrating off of mailing lists and newsgroups for many
years now. Many of the mailing lists have already closed down and moved
to https://discourse.mozilla.org/
Even though a support web forum already exists, the support
newsgroups/lists have remained open for the lifetime of the server.


*WHERE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ANNOUNCEMENT*
You can reply to this post, and I'll try to answer any questions.
If you have questions after the shutdown, you can find me in the
#firefox chat room at
https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#firefox:mozilla.org or the #sumo chat
room at https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#SUMO:mozilla.org

My display name on chat.mozilla.org is cilias

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As this list appears to be being shut down within a week, could the
list administrator please advise as to how many subscriber this list
has?

Thank you in anticipation.



Hello.

I have not seen any response from the list administrator, to either of 
my two messages above.


This is not a criticism of the list administrator - it is merely an 
observation and explanation, of what follows.


I have created a new replacement list for this list, this list being due 
to be shut down as of 03 March 2021.


Correction - as stated above, this list is scheduled to be shut down on 
03 April 2021.




The new list web page address is
https://groups.io/g/seamonkey-support

Please read the group description on that web page, before subscribing.

I have enabled the option to allow for the group/mailing list to be 
sponsored, to provide for more than 100 subscribers, should it get that 
many. I would not be concerned with that aspect, until the number of 
subscribers approaches 100, if it does.


Subscribers to this mailing list, are invited to visit the above web 
page, and subscribe to the group/mailing list.


To subscribe to the replacement mailing list, go to the above web page, 
read the group description, and, if you accept that, click on the link 
where it says "Subscribe, which should generate an email message for you 
to send, to subscribe. You should then receive a subscription request 
confirmation message, for you to send a reply, to confirm your 
subscription.






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Replacement for the Seamonkey support mailing list as hosted by Mozilla - was - Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-29 Thread Bret Busby

On 29/3/21 3:47 am, Bret Busby wrote:

On 28/03/2021, Bret Busby  wrote:

Please see the message below.

I note that this list is hosted on lists.mozilla.org

-- Forwarded message --
From: Chris Ilias 
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:11:20 -0400
Subject: **THIS FORUM WILL BE SHUT DOWN SOON**
To: mozilla-support-fire...@lists.mozilla.org

*WHAT IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).


*WHEN IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN*
lists.mozilla.org: April 3
news.mozilla.org: Sometime after April 3


*WHAT YOU WILL EXPERIENCE*
Because all posts to this newsgroup go through the mailing list, no
messages will be approved after April 3. You will still be able to
access news.mozilla.org, but there will be no new posts in this
newsgroup after that. If you try to post a message, it will just not
appear.

Sometime after that, Giganews will shut down news.mozilla.org, and you
will no longer be able to access the newsgroup.


*WHERE TO FIND THE ARCHIVE*
The archive of this newsgroup will be kept intact at
https://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/
As with other newsgroups that have been shuttered in the past, the
archive will be read-only.

If you're using Thunderbird, you can also download all messages before
the news server is shut down.
1. In your Local Folders account, create a new folder called
"mozilla.support.firefox"
2. Open the newsgroup, then go to Edit-->Select-->All.
3. Go to Message-->Move_to-->Local_Folders-->mozilla.support.firefox
NOTE: There are over 190,000 messages, so it will take a long time to
download. You may want to select batches of messages instead of
selecting all.


*WHERE TO GO FOR SUPPORT*
The primary Firefox support forum is at
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/firefox?show=all
Other languages can be found at
https://support.mozilla.org/kb/get-community-support

If you prefer newsgroups, there may be newsgroups on Usenet where you
can find Firefox support. If not, try netscape.public.mozilla.browser.


*WHY THIS IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla has been migrating off of mailing lists and newsgroups for many
years now. Many of the mailing lists have already closed down and moved
to https://discourse.mozilla.org/
Even though a support web forum already exists, the support
newsgroups/lists have remained open for the lifetime of the server.


*WHERE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ANNOUNCEMENT*
You can reply to this post, and I'll try to answer any questions.
If you have questions after the shutdown, you can find me in the
#firefox chat room at
https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#firefox:mozilla.org or the #sumo chat
room at https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#SUMO:mozilla.org

My display name on chat.mozilla.org is cilias

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As this list appears to be being shut down within a week, could the
list administrator please advise as to how many subscriber this list
has?

Thank you in anticipation.



Hello.

I have not seen any response from the list administrator, to either of 
my two messages above.


This is not a criticism of the list administrator - it is merely an 
observation and explanation, of what follows.


I have created a new replacement list for this list, this list being due 
to be shut down as of 03 March 2021.


The new list web page address is
https://groups.io/g/seamonkey-support

Please read the group description on that web page, before subscribing.

I have enabled the option to allow for the group/mailing list to be 
sponsored, to provide for more than 100 subscribers, should it get that 
many. I would not be concerned with that aspect, until the number of 
subscribers approaches 100, if it does.


Subscribers to this mailing list, are invited to visit the above web 
page, and subscribe to the group/mailing list.


To subscribe to the replacement mailing list, go to the above web page, 
read the group description, and, if you accept that, click on the link 
where it says "Subscribe, which should generate an email message for you 
to send, to subscribe. You should then receive a subscription request 
confirmation message, for you to send a reply, to confirm your subscription.



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Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-28 Thread Ray Davison

Bret Busby wrote:

On 29/3/21 5:58 am, Ray Davison wrote:
https://groups.io/g/mozilla currently lists only 20 members.  I 
consider .io a better system.


Mozilla mozi...@groups.io
My names Bob Edenhofer, and I'm the owner of this list! this list is 
for the purpose of discussing the on going development, of mozilla 
products, sutch as thunderbird, firefox, and SeaMonkey, whitch is an 
internet and email client, all built into one!
The rules are as follows! 1! there's absolutely no profanity on here, 
whatsoever! 2! there's absolutely no bad mouthing mozilla and their 
products! 3! if you know that a message is off topic? Then don't post 
it, because you'll clutter my list, with unnecessary traffic! 4! if 
someone posts a message, and you don't know the answer? Then don't 
post a message saying you don't know, because you'll clutter my list, 
with unnecessary traffic! 5! I signed up to become a developer for 
mozilla, and I'm also a developer for NVAccess, the company that makes 
the free open source screenreader, NVDA for the blind and visually 
impaired! 6! If anyone violates my rules and regulations, that I set 
forth on this list, you's are automaticly, banned! no questions asked! 
I'm also totally blind as well!


Are you the list administrator of the list on which this message is 
posted, or, are you the list administrator of the groups.io list that 
you cited?



I just pasted the introduction, which contains the owner's ID.

We don't need any Mozilla org to provide us a place to share Mozilla info.

Ray
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Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-28 Thread Ray_Net

Bret Busby wrote on 28-03-21 14:52:

Please see the message below.

I note that this list is hosted on lists.mozilla.org

-- Forwarded message --
From: Chris Ilias 
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:11:20 -0400
Subject: **THIS FORUM WILL BE SHUT DOWN SOON**
To: mozilla-support-fire...@lists.mozilla.org

*WHAT IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).


*WHEN IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN*
lists.mozilla.org: April 3
news.mozilla.org: Sometime after April 3



It seems like this is the end of all mozilla products. In other words, 
in no time all mozilla products will be dead.


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Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-28 Thread Bret Busby

On 29/3/21 5:58 am, Ray Davison wrote:
https://groups.io/g/mozilla currently lists only 20 members.  I consider 
.io a better system.


Mozilla mozi...@groups.io
My names Bob Edenhofer, and I'm the owner of this list! this list is for 
the purpose of discussing the on going development, of mozilla products, 
sutch as thunderbird, firefox, and SeaMonkey, whitch is an internet and 
email client, all built into one!
The rules are as follows! 1! there's absolutely no profanity on here, 
whatsoever! 2! there's absolutely no bad mouthing mozilla and their 
products! 3! if you know that a message is off topic? Then don't post 
it, because you'll clutter my list, with unnecessary traffic! 4! if 
someone posts a message, and you don't know the answer? Then don't post 
a message saying you don't know, because you'll clutter my list, with 
unnecessary traffic! 5! I signed up to become a developer for mozilla, 
and I'm also a developer for NVAccess, the company that makes the free 
open source screenreader, NVDA for the blind and visually impaired! 6! 
If anyone violates my rules and regulations, that I set forth on this 
list, you's are automaticly, banned! no questions asked! I'm also 
totally blind as well!


Are you the list administrator of the list on which this message is 
posted, or, are you the list administrator of the groups.io list that 
you cited?


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Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-28 Thread Ray Davison
https://groups.io/g/mozilla currently lists only 20 members.  I consider 
.io a better system.


Mozilla mozi...@groups.io
My names Bob Edenhofer, and I'm the owner of this list! this list is for 
the purpose of discussing the on going development, of mozilla products, 
sutch as thunderbird, firefox, and SeaMonkey, whitch is an internet and 
email client, all built into one!
The rules are as follows! 1! there's absolutely no profanity on here, 
whatsoever! 2! there's absolutely no bad mouthing mozilla and their 
products! 3! if you know that a message is off topic? Then don't post 
it, because you'll clutter my list, with unnecessary traffic! 4! if 
someone posts a message, and you don't know the answer? Then don't post 
a message saying you don't know, because you'll clutter my list, with 
unnecessary traffic! 5! I signed up to become a developer for mozilla, 
and I'm also a developer for NVAccess, the company that makes the free 
open source screenreader, NVDA for the blind and visually impaired! 6! 
If anyone violates my rules and regulations, that I set forth on this 
list, you's are automaticly, banned! no questions asked! I'm also 
totally blind as well!

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Re: Is this list being shutdown

2021-03-28 Thread WaltS48

On 3/28/21 3:47 PM, Bret Busby wrote:

As this list appears to be being shut down within a week, could the
list administrator please advise as to how many subscriber this list
has?

Thank you in anticipation.


What makes you think they read it?

It isn't moderated, and I had no problem finding the admin address from 
the Wiki .


Where they haven't announced the pending shutdown as yet. 

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Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-28 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

Bret Busby wrote:

Please see the message below.

I note that this list is hosted on lists.mozilla.org

-- Forwarded message --
From: Chris Ilias 
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:11:20 -0400
Subject: **THIS FORUM WILL BE SHUT DOWN SOON**
To: mozilla-support-fire...@lists.mozilla.org

*WHAT IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).


*WHEN IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN*
lists.mozilla.org: April 3
news.mozilla.org: Sometime after April 3


*WHAT YOU WILL EXPERIENCE*
Because all posts to this newsgroup go through the mailing list, no
messages will be approved after April 3. You will still be able to
access news.mozilla.org, but there will be no new posts in this
newsgroup after that. If you try to post a message, it will just not appear.

Sometime after that, Giganews will shut down news.mozilla.org, and you
will no longer be able to access the newsgroup.


*WHERE TO FIND THE ARCHIVE*
The archive of this newsgroup will be kept intact at
https://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/
As with other newsgroups that have been shuttered in the past, the
archive will be read-only.

If you're using Thunderbird, you can also download all messages before
the news server is shut down.
1. In your Local Folders account, create a new folder called
"mozilla.support.firefox"
2. Open the newsgroup, then go to Edit-->Select-->All.
3. Go to Message-->Move_to-->Local_Folders-->mozilla.support.firefox
NOTE: There are over 190,000 messages, so it will take a long time to
download. You may want to select batches of messages instead of
selecting all.


*WHERE TO GO FOR SUPPORT*
The primary Firefox support forum is at
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/firefox?show=all
Other languages can be found at
https://support.mozilla.org/kb/get-community-support

If you prefer newsgroups, there may be newsgroups on Usenet where you
can find Firefox support. If not, try netscape.public.mozilla.browser.


*WHY THIS IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla has been migrating off of mailing lists and newsgroups for many
years now. Many of the mailing lists have already closed down and moved
to https://discourse.mozilla.org/
Even though a support web forum already exists, the support
newsgroups/lists have remained open for the lifetime of the server.


*WHERE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ANNOUNCEMENT*
You can reply to this post, and I'll try to answer any questions.
If you have questions after the shutdown, you can find me in the
#firefox chat room at
https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#firefox:mozilla.org or the #sumo chat
room at https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#SUMO:mozilla.org

My display name on chat.mozilla.org is cilias



I'm wondering whether it is worth the effort of downloading the almost 
116000 messages on this newsgroup.  If one person does it - and I'm 
trying - then maybe everyone else who wants it won't need to.  I'm not 
up to hosting a server with all this but if someone else is . . .

Oh, and some stuff won't be in any copy I make:
- Support the Fork.
- ANYTHINGI BY THATI LUNATICI, you know the one.

I have a Thunderbird profile just for mozilla.support.seamonkey

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Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-28 Thread Bret Busby
On 28/03/2021, Bret Busby  wrote:
> Please see the message below.
>
> I note that this list is hosted on lists.mozilla.org
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Chris Ilias 
> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:11:20 -0400
> Subject: **THIS FORUM WILL BE SHUT DOWN SOON**
> To: mozilla-support-fire...@lists.mozilla.org
>
> *WHAT IS HAPPENING*
> Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
> mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).
>
>
> *WHEN IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN*
> lists.mozilla.org: April 3
> news.mozilla.org: Sometime after April 3
>
>
> *WHAT YOU WILL EXPERIENCE*
> Because all posts to this newsgroup go through the mailing list, no
> messages will be approved after April 3. You will still be able to
> access news.mozilla.org, but there will be no new posts in this
> newsgroup after that. If you try to post a message, it will just not
> appear.
>
> Sometime after that, Giganews will shut down news.mozilla.org, and you
> will no longer be able to access the newsgroup.
>
>
> *WHERE TO FIND THE ARCHIVE*
> The archive of this newsgroup will be kept intact at
> https://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/
> As with other newsgroups that have been shuttered in the past, the
> archive will be read-only.
>
> If you're using Thunderbird, you can also download all messages before
> the news server is shut down.
> 1. In your Local Folders account, create a new folder called
> "mozilla.support.firefox"
> 2. Open the newsgroup, then go to Edit-->Select-->All.
> 3. Go to Message-->Move_to-->Local_Folders-->mozilla.support.firefox
> NOTE: There are over 190,000 messages, so it will take a long time to
> download. You may want to select batches of messages instead of
> selecting all.
>
>
> *WHERE TO GO FOR SUPPORT*
> The primary Firefox support forum is at
> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/firefox?show=all
> Other languages can be found at
> https://support.mozilla.org/kb/get-community-support
>
> If you prefer newsgroups, there may be newsgroups on Usenet where you
> can find Firefox support. If not, try netscape.public.mozilla.browser.
>
>
> *WHY THIS IS HAPPENING*
> Mozilla has been migrating off of mailing lists and newsgroups for many
> years now. Many of the mailing lists have already closed down and moved
> to https://discourse.mozilla.org/
> Even though a support web forum already exists, the support
> newsgroups/lists have remained open for the lifetime of the server.
>
>
> *WHERE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ANNOUNCEMENT*
> You can reply to this post, and I'll try to answer any questions.
> If you have questions after the shutdown, you can find me in the
> #firefox chat room at
> https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#firefox:mozilla.org or the #sumo chat
> room at https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#SUMO:mozilla.org
>
> My display name on chat.mozilla.org is cilias
>
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As this list appears to be being shut down within a week, could the
list administrator please advise as to how many subscriber this list
has?

Thank you in anticipation.

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