Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

[Paul Bergsagel]

WaltS48 wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 10/3/2020 9:58 AM, Stephen Katz wrote:
...
My Seamonkey freezes on almost every major site.  Yahoo, Washington 
Post, Nextdoor, to name a few.  Google Chrome has no problem with the 
same sites.


Me too with LinkedIn, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, MyArlo, etc. 
Nextdoor is a little slow. Firefox v81.0.1 is fine.


No Problem with YouTube here.



Not that link anyway. SM 2.54.3 with no extensions on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.

You know the drill. Safe mode, that don't work try a new profile.
Good Luck and enjoy the music.
Ant I think you may be on to something here.  I am running WG9s build 
2.53.5 beta (User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; 
rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.5).


I have no add ons, just the plain vanilla SeaMonkey and I am using the 
latest MacOS.  I rarely have web pages lock up on me, have the browser 
crash.  I may have the odd unresponsive script or a form button fail to 
respond, but for 95% of my browsing SeaMonkey just works (though on some 
of the more complex sites the browser does slow down).


I suspect those SeaMonkey users having crashes it is the addons not 
SeaMonkey that is causing the issues.

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Re: About W9Gs build--Seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre

[Paul Bergsagel]

Daniel wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 15/09/2020 12:59 PM:

Daniel wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 14/09/2020 11:30 AM:

Hi,

I downloaded the build by W9G seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre  on September 13 
(today).  I the last build I had downloaded was from September 7.


The first thing I Noticed was how fast and responsive it was 
compared to the build from September 7 that I had been using.  Has 
anyone else tried any of the builds by W9G recently and noticed the 
speed and responsiveness improvements.  What a difference.


BTW I am using MacOS 10.15.6.


Paul, when you installed the latest, did you flush the cache to 
ensure the SM had to re-acquire the web-site data i.e. to stop it 
just re-using the Cached data??
I don't use the cache and have it set to use 0 mb of disk space. The 
browser was to retrieving stored data from the cache.


Hmm! Sorry, Paul, did you mean "The browser was *not set* to retrieving 
stored data from the cache."??

Yes. I don't use the cache when browsing.

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Re: About W9Gs build--Seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre

[Paul Bergsagel]

Daniel wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 14/09/2020 11:30 AM:

Hi,

I downloaded the build by W9G seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre  on September 13 
(today).  I the last build I had downloaded was from September 7.


The first thing I Noticed was how fast and responsive it was compared 
to the build from September 7 that I had been using.  Has anyone else 
tried any of the builds by W9G recently and noticed the speed and 
responsiveness improvements.  What a difference.


BTW I am using MacOS 10.15.6.


Paul, when you installed the latest, did you flush the cache to ensure 
the SM had to re-acquire the web-site data i.e. to stop it just re-using 
the Cached data??
I don't use the cache and have it set to use 0 mb of disk space. The 
browser was to retrieving stored data from the cache.

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Re: My "Autoplay On/Off" plugin stopped working

[Paul Bergsagel]

DoctorBill wrote:

I have had an "AUTOPLAY on/off" extention (plugin?) for a long time.
It worked fine.  Today it stopped working !  No apparent reason.
Using Windows 7 - with AutoUpdate Turned OFF - so it can't be screwed
with by MicroSoft.  If was "OFF" by default - so now I cannot turn in on...

I use Autoplay Off to stop FoxNews "Movies" from starting when I am
perusing the "News" - lol.

DoctorBill
For me there is a better solution to turning off autoplay than through a 
plugin for turning off autoplay, and it is built in to SeaMonkey:


First go to the Location Bar of the browser window and type 
"about:config" without the quotation marks. Then press return.  In the 
page that comes up search for "media.autoplay.enabled" and set it to 
false. This will turn off autoplay.


I have used this setting for years. When I want to view video on a web 
page or at youtube I simply click on the video's play button.


This setting stops videos from autoplaying and lets the user decide if 
they want to view a video by clicking the play button.  If this is the 
function of the plugin you are using, this function is already built 
into SeaMonkey by going to about:config

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About W9Gs build--Seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre

[Paul Bergsagel]

Hi,

I downloaded the build by W9G seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre  on September 13 
(today).  I the last build I had downloaded was from September 7.


The first thing I Noticed was how fast and responsive it was compared to 
the build from September 7 that I had been using.  Has anyone else tried 
any of the builds by W9G recently and noticed the speed and 
responsiveness improvements.  What a difference.


BTW I am using MacOS 10.15.6.
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Re: No vertical scroll bar ...

[Paul Bergsagel]

Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 9/2/2020 7:34 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

No vertical scroll bar ...

https://fr.surveymonkey.com/mp/legal/cookies/

Works ok with Google Chrome.

Again you will say that the problem is at te webmaster of the site :-)



Well, yes.  The "body" stanza of the site CSS includes the rule:
     overflow:  -moz-scrollbars-none;

If I disable that rule using Developer Tools the scrollbar re-appears.

I have no idea what they are trying to accomplish with that.

Lem Johnson
Maybe this is to passively "force" users not to use SeaMonkey. Survey 
Monkey may be wanting to reduce the number of browsers they have to test 
their web page with so they make the web page display incorrectly for 
any other browser than Chrome (chrome variations also) or Firefox. The 
hope is that users will switch to either a Chrome variation or Firefox. 
This tactic is not something I thought a professional company would use 
to reduce the number of browsers they need to test with their site.

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Skype + SeaMonkey works fine (was): Win7-Pro, Seamonkey-64, and Skype

[Paul Bergsagel]

Skype works as expected here, I did not encounter the browser not 
supported page and I clicked on all the links to set up a meeting, all 
but the final one which would have started an actual meeting. Skype 
appears to work for me.


BTW I am using W9Gs Seamonkey build 2.53.5b1pre  MacOS 10.15.6 
(Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.5)


WaltS48 wrote:

On 8/28/20 4:16 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Henrik37 wrote:

Gunther Nikl wrote:

Henrik37 wrote:

Is there some way to get the current version of Skype to run with Win
7-Pro systems and SeaMonkey v.2.53 without having a Microsoft account?


Not sure I understand the issue. AFAIK, you need a ms account to access
the skype service. Where does SeaMonkey come into play here?

Gunther

My impression is that Microsoft (who owns Skype) doesn't interface 
easily with SeaMonkey.




Irrelevant in this case.
I thought Skype used its own client program - and it's not a browser - 
so what browser you are using is moot.  If I'm wrong and it does use a 
browser: if it works with Edge and not with Seamonkey, then it is a 
case for this forum.




I think it is a case for Microsoft to not lock users into using their 
products.


Using the bleeding edge development version of Firefox 82.0a1, I get 
this page.




I see the same in SeaMonkey 2.53.3.



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Service workers

[Paul Bergsagel]

Is it safe to enable service workers  and if so what do I enable in 
about:config to enable service workers?


I am using the build by W9Gs  User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel 
Mac OS X 10.15; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.5


Thanks.
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Re: No more images shown on IMGUR

[Paul Bergsagel]

Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2020-08-21, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:


Hi,

for me problem has vanished, it seems they changed something at IMGUR.

Your results?


Here I'm still getting gray pages for imgur "galleries".

Albums seem to work, or at least these don't show an empty gray page. In
some cases you might be able to replace /gallery/ with /a/ in the imgur
address to get something that works.

I noticed the page has a place to sign in.  I haven't signed in.  Does 
the page function as expected if you are signed in?

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Web Worker( was) No more images shown on IMGUR

[Paul Bergsagel]

Is it possible that imgur.com is using web workers (see 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_worker). Many pages failing to work 
with SeaMonkey fail as they are using web worker code on their web page.


If this page is using web workers it has yet to be implemented in 
SeaMonkey and the page will not function properly.  I believe (but not 
sure) that thew web worker technology is presently in the development 
stage for SeaMonkey.


Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Hi all,

since today my  installation of unofficial (by wg9s) De SeaMonkey 2.53.5 
beta 1 pre Mozilla/5.0  (NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 Build 20200727210001 (Default Classic Theme) on German WIN7 
64bit has stopped to show single pictures on IMGUR.


Steps how to reproduce:
1. Open https://imgur.com/ in newly created User Profile
    » Shows overview of pictures
2. Click Arbitrary picture of movie like
    
    » Expected: single picture or movie view
  Actual: Black Page. Page Info / Media only shows
  some small Icons, but they also are invisible.

Changing User Agent String without success for now.

Can you reproduce that problem?
Any Ideas concerning roots or WORKAROUND?

CU

Rainer


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Re: Access Denied - CarMax.com

[Paul Bergsagel]

Danny Kile wrote:

Going to carmax.com I get the following error:

Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "http://www.carmax.com/; on this 
server.


Reference #18.2d891ab8.1596029342.1765be0e

I works just fine with Chrome.

What is my solution? Thank you!
This site works for me using using WG9s build 2.53.b4 using MacOS 
10.15.6   I have the preference set to advertise both SeaMonkey and 
Firefox compatibility (preferences). Maybe the issue has been resolved 
in later versions?

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Re: The website mozillaes.org has gone

[Paul Bergsagel]

Daniel wrote:

Daniel wrote on 26/07/2020 6:21 PM:

jcteyssier wrote on 26/07/2020 6:14 AM:

EE a écrit :

jcteyssier wrote:

AndrésH a écrit :

Hello,

The website mozillaes.org has gone. I receive a page from 
godday.com that the domain mozilles.org has not been renewed.


Is there in this newsgroup from the spanish community that can 
inform me if this is permanent.


Best regards

Por si hay algún español en este foro, quisiera saber qué ha 
pasado con mozillaes.org. Desde hace unos días me aparece una 
página que dice que no se ha renovado el dominio y está aparcado 
hasta que se pague la renovación.
Quisiera saber si las personas que llevaban esa web han tirado la 
toalla y debo buscar otro foro en español para enterarme de las 
novedades de seamonkey.


Un saludo
Same thing for frenchmozzilla.fr: someone forget to renew 
registrations...

mozilla.org still alive.


If you spelled Mozilla correctly, you would find it is still there.


i just left of o on keyboard :)
http://www.frenchmozilla.fr/


licking on that link takes me to a domain the name of which is up for 
sale!


s/linking/clicking! '-(

The http://www.frenchmozilla.org/ seems to be working though!-- 

Daniel

Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623
Is this the Spanish page you are looking for: 
https://www.mozilla.org/es-ES/firefox/all/#product-desktop-release


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Re: SM 2.53.3: Some sites not displaying correctly

[Paul Bergsagel]

Hi,

Both sites work as expected for me. I am using MacOS 10.15.6 and 
Seamonkey  User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; 
rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.4


The version of SeaMonkey I am using is WG9s 2.53.4 beta build. WG9s 
build is very stable and (at least on the Mac)I have not come across any 
bugs preventing me from using this build for all my browsing/email.


You might try WG9s build.***BACK UP YOU PROFILE FIRST*** as I believe 
this build changes something in you user profile.  You cannot go back to 
the previous version of SeaMonkey if you did not back up your user 
profile before installing WG9s.  You can download WG9s 2.53.4 beta build 
here: https://www.wg9s.com/comm-253/


mike wrote:

Hi,

with SM 2.53.3 (Win10 64) some sites are not displaying correctly, e.g:

https://www.mailbox.org/
-> Parts of the navigation are cut off on the right side. The page
content is too wide so that it needs a scroll bar.

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/
-> Open any classified ad with an image, then click on the image. SM
only displays the bottom half of the image.

Tried with add-ons disabled to no avail. No problem with FF 60.



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Re: SM 2.53.3 Access Denied

[Paul Bergsagel]

I'm using an iMac and have no problems with the Newegg web page 
(newegg.ca)   using WG9s build  User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; 
Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.4



Doors wrote:


Starting with SM 2.53.2 I began getting access denied messages on a few
random websites.

With SM 2.53.3 it has gone from annoyance, to problem.
Places, for instance newegg, and there are many more,  will load the
home screen, then when I go anywhere, it is blank, or I get access
denied messages, it varies.

Yes I have tried in safe mode.
Yes I have tried a clean profile.
Yes I have tried with identify as FF & SM.
Yes I have tried with identify as FF.

Portable version of FF60 works fine.

Anybody else having this problem
Or is this just life having some fun at my expense?




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Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

[Paul Bergsagel]

Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 13-06-20 22:27:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible 
on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment 
from your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the 
other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Why not use the latest official release of SeaMonkey?  The latest is 
2.53.2.



I am waiting the 2.53.3
I am using the Mac version by W9Gs 2.53.4b1. The only plug-in I use is 
PDF Viewer. In my experience most sites function best when I do not 
modify/spoof the user agent or advertise Firefox compatibility. This 
version is very stable i.e. "rock solid" with no major glitched or 
crashes.  Some websites do have some difficulties, but nothing major 
which might cause the user to loose data or end up with a corrupted user 
profile.


It is safe to run 2.53.2 or even the build by by W9Gs 2.53.4b1. You also 
get the benefit of additional bug fixes.  You don't need to wait for the 
official 2.53.3.  The betas are very stable (at least they are on my 
MacIntosh).

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Re: [ PARTIALLY SOLVED ] Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

[Paul Bergsagel]

EE wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 12:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible 
on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment 
from your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the 
other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which has 
been "trained" on the old machine, is the training on the new one as 
well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.


[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ]

I have also another problem on my new pc:  the Google-Maps site did 
not accept my search text.

I know that this problem is solved by stopping SM then restart it.
So i do it - and all goes well with Google-Maps.
Then I read your post and I was playing around, on my old pc, without 
solution.
Finally I re-test the page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 


on my new pc and MIRACLE - all goes well.
So I have sometimes a problem affecting Google-Maps and MyDrive-Tomtom.
This problem is avoided by re-booting SM.
Now ... How to find it ? That's another problem.


Update to at least SM 2.49.5?



Although 2.53.2 is the current version at 



With Google Maps, I had to set the Firefox compatibility information in 
the user-agent to get SeaMonkey to work properly with it.  I had to do 
the same thing with Pale Moon as well.


Google Maps works fine with version by W9Gs 2.53.4.b1 and I am not 
advertising Firefox compatibility.  Maybe the issue Ray is experiencing 
is resolved in 2.53.4?


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Re: pictures no longer show

[Paul Bergsagel]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Hawker wrote:
Since updating from 2.49 to 2.52 the number of sites I now have to use 
with a different browser to work has significantly increased.


I have a ton of new sites that the pictures no longer show up in. 
Someone else mentioned Home Depot and Reddit issues as some of them. 
The other surprising one  is The Onion
https://www.theonion.com/anna-kendrick-s-love-life-pulled-from-hbo-max-until-i-1843999236 


For example works in Firefox but not Seamonkey.

Is this also in the 52.3 fix? What is happening with the no picture bug?

At least 2.52 fixed the go fund me page issue.


As an experiment, try this UA override:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0


I am running the build by W9Gs Seamonkey 2.53.4 beta 1pre.  The pictures 
fail to show up. It seems that the fix is not in for the 2.53.4 beta :-( .

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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

[Paul Bergsagel]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/5/20 8:47 AM, meagain wrote:

Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works

 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an unsupported 
browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube Studio to be 
slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of these instead."


With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop 
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please update 
your browser."
Works for me.  I do not have Firefox compatibility enabled.  Youtube.com 
works and there is no warning message about the browser I am using.


 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an unsupported 
browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube Studio to be 
slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of these instead."


studio.youtube.com does not seem to know about SeaMonkey, but works if 
you click on the button below.


I am using SeaMonkey 2.53.4 beta 1 pre   build by W9Gs.

The issue seems to me is that many web page designers do not know about 
SeaMonkey and reject the browser since it is an unknown browser.  If the 
sniffer would  look for the browser engine (i.e. gecko) instead of the 
browser's name (i.e. SeaMonkey) we would run into fewer compatibility 
issues.






WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have to 
use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?


- meagain


Probably more than users of the current Firefox version would.

However, I had no trouble logging into my Google account, clicking the 
"Skip to Studio" button on the unsupported browser page and creating a 
studio dashboard.


Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 
SeaMonkey/2.53.2 with no extensions.




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2.53.4b build by WG9s

[Paul Bergsagel]

FYI,

If you have been running into some pages that do not display/function 
correctly try WG9s SeaMonkey build 2.53.4b located here:


https://www.wg9s.com/comm-253/

This version may (or may not) solve the problems you may be experiencing.

I have been using this build on my iMac for a couple of days and it is 
stable and a few pages that caused me problems now display correctly and 
function as they should. I recommend you try this version.


**DISCLAIMER** Be warned that the builds by WG9s are unofficial and are 
beta so READ the warnings posted on his page.  So far I have encountered 
no problems/issues with the Mac version,and I believe it is safe to 
install and run on a daily basis but your mileage may vary based on your 
OS and computer set-up.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

[Paul Bergsagel]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.2.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.  I
am working on it.


Edmund

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.2
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.2/


Thanks.  Good work. So far 2.53.2 is good on MacOS 10.15.4 Catalina.
Thanks for all the work to produce this release.
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Thanks to the devs ->Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 Beta 1 released!

[Paul Bergsagel]

Many thanks to all the developers for this latest release.

I have used 2.53.2 b 1 for a couple of hours tonight and so far this 
release appears to be very good.  I do not notice any serious issues.  A 
few sites could function/display better, but nothing I can't deal with.


I am using an iMac with MacOS Catalina 10.15.4.

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.2 Beta 1.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.  I
am working on it.

Thanks to all involved.  Namely kudos to IanN and FRG for their hard
working at doing the builds once again.  Their tireless work on the
builds have been well noted.  FotF material. :)

Edmund

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.2b1
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.2/

PS: Any screw ups is due to my incompetence and does not reflect the
project or its members.  While I've tried to ensure the files are
'ok';  the upload process is between a manual process and an automated
one.  I'd guess one or the other would throw a hissy fit.  So
apologies ahead of time.




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Re: Errors with YouTube

[Paul Bergsagel]

qbr...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 11:50:42 PM UTC-4, Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 4/1/2020 1:18 PM, qbr...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:56:56 PM UTC-4, EE wrote:

I've been unable to post replies or comments for around four days using 
Seamonkey 2.53.1. I also can't like videos. The left sidebar that shows 
subscriptions and other things comes and goes.  In looking around the youtube 
website on what are probably less frequently frequented pages other things work 
and then don't too.

However, I seem to be able to post etc using Firefox 74.0.

Is this perhaps a UA issue?



Does Youtube work better if you access it with
https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1


A few things are better, but clicking the notification bell and the user thing 
in the upper right hand corner still gets the never ending loading circle.

Navigating away from the home page still has many of the same problems.  I 
didn't try commenting on anything.

I'm using a Macintosh MacOS 10.15.4 and SeaMonkey 2.53.1 with the user 
agent ( Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.1) with only these extensions 
installed: Chatzilla, Dom Inspector, Lightining, PDF Viewer.


Youtube seems to function normally for me.  I have not noticed any 
differences.


Are the errors some are experiencing dependent on the OS the end user is 
running?

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e10s aka Electrolysis

[Paul Bergsagel]

Is it possible to enable e10s aka Electrolysis in 2.53.1 and if so How?

Is it safe to enable e10s aka Electrolysis or will it cause problems and 
crashes?  Thanks.

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Re: Title bar missing from v.2.53.1

[Paul Bergsagel]

alisonjoankilpatr...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, 14 March 2020 16:38:51 UTC-4, alisonjoan...@gmail.com  wrote:


I'm going to try shutting down my computer and reopening the software. ...


Shutting and restarting the computer down did not bring the title bar back.
I am driving a mid-2012 Mac PB with OS 10.13.6.
cheers, Alison

Alison is it possible hat composer is not fully compatible with with OS 
10.13.  Maybe you have to be running OS 10.14 or OS 10.15 for this 
feature to work?  Recently there have been a lot of changes to Gecko 
(the underlying structure of SeaMonkey) and s. Sometimes these changes 
adversely affect older OSs.

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Re: Did SM v2.53.1 remove its column sort arrows?

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Ant wrote:

On 3/1/2020 5:40 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

Ant wrote:

They used to be there in v2.49.5 and earlier. :(


I just discovered that they appear when you click on the column.

HTH


Not in my v2.53.1. :(

I see the arrows.  I am running the MacOS version of SeaMonkey 2.53.1.
WFM.
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Re: PDF Viewer and SeaMonkey 2.53.1 final

[Paul Bergsagel]

WaltS48 wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote:

Hi,

I'm wondering if PDF Viewer is compatible  with SM 2.53.1 and if there 
are any plans to build PDF Viewer into SM instead of using a plug in?




I'm wondering what version you are wondering about.

I just installed the 64-bit version of SeaMonkey on my Windows 10 laptop.

I have PDF Viewer 1.9.641 installed on March 14, 2018. It appears to 
open in a tab attempting to load a pdf file, but nothing shows up in the 
tab until I click the "Stop" button.


So I went searching and found 
<https://github.com/IsaacSchemm/pdf.js-seamonkey/releases> version 
2.2.255 which I installed after removing the older version and it works 
for me.


HTH


I'm using SeaMonkey 2.53.1 final I had version 1.1.304 installed.  It 
didn't work.  I installed the latest version 2.2.255 of PDF viewer and 
it works again.


Are there plans to include the PDF Viewer code into future versions of 
SeaMonkey so that a plug in will not be required?

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PDF Viewer and SeaMonkey 2.53.1 final

[Paul Bergsagel]

Hi,

I'm wondering if PDF Viewer is compatible  with SM 2.53.1 and if there 
are any plans to build PDF Viewer into SM instead of using a plug in?



Thanks to the developers for all there hard work getting 2.53.1 out to 
users.  Your work is very much appreciated.

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Autoplay on/off is in the preferences of 2.53.1 b1 preferences (was: Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems)

[Paul Bergsagel]

If you are running SeaMonkey 2.53.1 b1 you can easily turn autoplay 
using the preferences.  Open Preferences and click on Appearance->Media 
and uncheck the box "Enable Autoplay of HTML5 media content".


alexyu wrote:

David E. Ross wrote, on 25 Feb 20 19:48:


On 2/25/2020 2:27 PM, EE wrote:


David E. Ross wrote:


I believe the preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled
If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.

At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
to work.


That is not strictly true.  HTML5 autoplay is disabled.  There should 
still be
a play button you can click to get it to play, in most cases.  There 
are a few
sites where you need autoplay enabled to get the video to play even 
after you

click the play button, but I have an extension that gives me a button to
toggle the setting.


By default, I have media.autoplay.enabled set to false.  When there is a
video I want to play, I use PrefBar to change it to true (selecting a
checkbox on the PrefBar tool bar).  I then reload the Web page, and the
video plays.


How do you change "autoplay.enabled" (or not) in PrefBar?  I don't have 
that option in my 'PrefBar Options'...  Is that one I didn't include at 
the time of installation -- and how can I get in my PrefBar now?




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DoH and SeaMonkey

[Paul Bergsagel]

Hi,

Does SeaMonkey support DoH and if it does how can it be enabled?

Also does anyone know the pros and cons of using DoH?


Thanks.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 and PDF viewer

[Paul Bergsagel]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 2/3/20 9:12 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:
Hi,  Can anyone tell me if PDF Viewer is compatible with SeaMonkey 
2.53.1.b1 and will work.  I have been experiencing problems viewing 
PDF files in a browser window.  Thanks.


Paul.


The PDF Viewer extension?

I installed version 2.2.255 from 
<https://github.com/IsaacSchemm/pdf.js-seamonkey/releases>.


It works with this test page <https://www.orimi.com/pdf-test.pdf>


Thanks WaltS48.  Installed and working.
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SeaMonkey 2.53.1 and PDF viewer

[Paul Bergsagel]

Hi,  Can anyone tell me if PDF Viewer is compatible with SeaMonkey 
2.53.1.b1 and will work.  I have been experiencing problems viewing PDF 
files in a browser window.  Thanks.


Paul.
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SeaMonkey 2.53.1.b1 comments about+ Thanks to programmers.

[Paul Bergsagel]

Hi.

I have been using SeaMonkey 2.53.1.b1 for three or four days.  I am 
using an iMac 27" running Catalina MacOS 10.15.2


So far SeaMonkey has been rock solid stable and 99% of the web pages I 
go to display as expected.  There were a few web pages which failed to 
display properly in 2.49.5 and now display correctly with 2.53.1.b1.


This version IMHO is ready for most users to install and use on a daily 
bases.  I do not miss 2.49.5 at all and everything works.  When I first 
installed 2.53 I was afraid I might find the beta unstable or some web 
pages would not display or function correctly.  That is not the case. 
2.53.1.b1 is an improvement over 2.49.5 and I would recomend all users 
download and install the beta.


ONE CAUTION; Before installing the 2.53 beta make sure you make a back 
up of your user profile.  Once 2.53 is installed and run for the first 
time changes are made to files in your user profile and these changes 
make your profile incompatible with SeaMonkey versions earlier than the 
2.53.1b1 beta.  So if, for any reason, you need to downgrade to 2.49.5 
you will need to have a copy of your 2.49.5 user profile.


THANKS TO THE PROGRAMMERS for all the hard work and hours spent in 
developing SeaMonkey 2.53.1.b1.  All your hard work is appreciated very 
much.


--A grateful SeaMonkey user.
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Seamonkey 2.53.1b1 Ready for everyday use?

[Paul Bergsagel]

Hi,

I have a question about Seamonkey 2.53.1b1.  Is this version ready to 
replace SeaMonkey 2.49.9 for daily use? I realize this is beta software 
but should only the more technically advance users be running this 
version or could the average user also run this beta?  BTW I an using 
MacOS Catalina 10.15.2.


Thanks.
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Re: Seamonkey 2.49.5 - Home button disappeared

[Paul Bergsagel]

Marisa Ciceran wrote:
I am in a similar situation as another user who recently posted - that 
is, I have bookmarks going back 20 years! I am staying with Windows 7 
Pro, but am not a software programmer who can make Seamonkey script 
changes on my own.


I previously created sub-folders to sort out most my excessive 
bookmarks, with the goal of slowly deleting the links no longer active 
or of interest to me, but that is a time-consuming process that I never 
tackled.


Yesterday, when I opened Seamonkey 2.49.5 in Windows 7 Pro, I 
immediately noticed that the Home button sitting to the left of the 
Bookmarks button on the Bookmarks bar was gone. tried to fix this 
problem by using the "Restore: bookmarks feature to go to an older 
version, but the feature doesn't work.


Any ideas on what has happened or suggestions on how to fix this problem 
would be be appreciated.


Marisa



Here is what I believe is the setting you are looking for:

1. Open a browser window
2. Go the the menu bar at the top and click on "View"
3. Click on "Show/Hide"
4. Click on "Bookmarks Toolbar"

If you follow these steps the Home Button should return to the upper 
left hand side under the back and forward buttons.

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Re: Email issues

[Paul Bergsagel]

Hi Ray,

All I can think of is to create a new user profile with a new email 
account and if this works you will know something has changed (or is 
corrupted) in your old user profile.


You might download the Thunderbird email program and set up a new email 
account as Thunderbird and SeaMonkey share the same email code.  I hope 
you can locate the source of the problem.


Ray Davison wrote:

SM mail.  Have not made any changes to in-out settings for several years.

I have several Charter mail accounts.  This all started a couple days 
when Charter stopped accepting outgoing mail from any of my accounts. 
This occurred on both my wife's machine and mine.


"An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:  5.1.0 
 sender rejected.  Please verify that your email 
address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again."


I take from the message that the mail is getting out of the building but 
the Charter sever does not know who we are.  I can send at my account on 
the Charter WEB site.


Below are the current/long time in/out settings and current suggested by 
Charter.


mail.charter.net 110
smtp.charter.net 587

Suggested:
imap.mobile.charter.net 993
mobile.charter.net 587

pop.gmail.com 995
smtp.gmail.com 465

pop.mail.yahoo.com 995
smtp.mail.yahoo.com 465
also pop.att.yahoo.com 995
also smtp.att.yahoo.com 465

Gmail works OK in and out.  It uses the gmail outgoing server.

Trying to send from yahoo uses whatever sever is listed as default.  But 
password fails. "Login to server smtp.att.yahoo.com failed."  "Enter new 
password"


Sending from gmail to yahoo gets to yahoo on-line account.

Trying to DL from yahoo gets:

"Sending of password for user raydav94 did not succeed. Mail server 
pop.mail.yahoo.com responded: Server error - Please try again later."



Anyone have any help for yahoo?

I charter tech and his supervisor said we ran a test, found no trouble, 
therefore you need to talk to Mozilla to fix their sync.  They changed 
my password so as to access my account to conduct the test.  They left 
their password in and did not tell me what it was.


A call to another tech fixed my password and had the opinion that the 
issue was the charter server, but being on the front lines had no access 
to that part of the system but would try to contact some one.


Any suggestions?

TY
Ray



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Re: How to delete Trash folder

[Paul Bergsagel]

stan wrote:

Cecil Bankston wrote:

stan wrote:
How can I delete TRASH folder which for some unknown reason appeared 
as sub-folder of INBOX folder.
Why would you want to do this?  The Trash folder is there by default 
to hold any deleted messages.  If you delete one by mistake you can 
retrieve it from Trash until you R-click the folder and select Empty 
trash.


Because there are two Teash folders now one under the Input and other 
under the Email name.
Before doing anything, quit SeaMonkey and restart it.  If that solves 
the issue of two trashes you are good to go.  If not try some other 
suggestion.  Sometimes when a program is first opened (i.e. loaded into 
the computer's memory) the code gets mixed up and weird things occur. If 
the cause of two trashes is the result of a computer glitch, it maybe 
one trrash can drawn in two different place.  First try the least 
harmful solution, restarting Seamonkey, then if this doesn't work 
restart the OS and if this doesn't solve the issue, then attempt a fix 
you might not be able to undo, such as deleting the extra trash can.  If 
it was a program glitch and one trash can was drawn in two spots, likely 
by now would be fixed when you restarted SeaMonkey or the OS.  If you 
first tried tot delete the trash Can and the problem was that there was 
only one trash, but because of a computer glitch was drawn twice you may 
end up deleting your one and only trash can.


The rule of thumb for computer fixes is to try the least harmful 
solutions first before the ones that might harm the program or computer, 
i.e. deletes your only trash can where there may be no undelete/undo key.



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Re: Sites Ask To Upgrade...works with 2.49.5

[Paul Bergsagel]

Hartmut Figge wrote:

David E. Ross:


Only one Web site that I frequently visit will not work with SeaMonkey:
.


What does not work? Opening the above link with my 2.53.1 succeeds.

Hartmut


Works for me with 2.49.5 MacOS.
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Re: Twitter WTH???

[Paul Bergsagel]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 10/29/19 3:55 AM, Shintaro wrote:

Twitter pages are now unusable with SeaMonkey or is it just me?


Do I need to login? I don't have an account.

This page displays just fine for me  
in my SM 2.49.5 without any extensions or UA changes.


Works for me.  Twitter works just fine here MacOs 10.14.6 and SeaMonkey 
2.49.5.  I have not spoofed my user agent.  Maybe this error is specific 
to Windows?

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Re: Make addons "Go Parent Folder" and "Show Parentfolder" work again.

[Paul Bergsagel]

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Hi,

both addons were fine workarounds for
"Bug 56418 - [SM] add folder column so bookmark search results shows 
where bookmark is in folder hierarchy"

  

Unfortunately both became broken for latest 2.53 builds by wg9 - at 
least for mes.


Do we have experts here who can try to fix that - with a little help by 
devs?


CU

Rainer

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Until the bug 56418 is implemented I'm afraid you may be out of luck. 
The code plug-ins require to function has been or is in the process of 
being removed from the Gecko engine, i.e. from SeaMonkey in favour of 
and need framework.  Sadly this means many of our favourite plugins and 
extensions will cease to function when upgrading Seamonkey.


The best you can hope for is that some developer will write a new 
plug-in or extension to replace Go Parent Folder or Show Pathfolder 
using the new programming framework which will work with future 
SeaMonkey versions

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Re: Go Fund me

[Paul Bergsagel]

Hawker wrote:

On 10/1/2019 9:47 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Hawker wrote:

On 9/30/2019 9:06 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 9/30/19 8:46 PM, Hawker wrote:

A few months ago I discovered that GoFundMe does not display properly.
The text is bunched up in the cover photo. I tried various other UA 
strings and all the usual stuff that fixes this for me with no 
luck. It displays properly in FireFox.


Are others seeing this? Any fix or just  add this to the, sigh, 
increasing list of websites that don't fully work with Seamonkey?


Doesn't work with SeaMonkey in safe mode? Doesn't work with a test 
profile?




Not sure how to do "safe mode" but I made a new profile and same problem
Here is a random example. Is the text below the picture or in side it?

https://www.gofundme.com/f/deputy-sandeep-singh-dhaliwal-scholarship-fund 



In my case the text overlays the pictures.



Interesting. So Paul and Don see what I see but Hartmut sees it correctly.
I wonder what the difference is and why Hartmut is different.

Hartmut are you using SM 2.53 or just spoofing that UI?
Maye broken in 2.49 but not 2.53?
I made a mistake.  I was on the home page and not the donation page 
linked above.  When I go to the page linked above I see text overlapping 
the picture.


Sorry for my confusion as to which page to test.

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Re: Go Fund me WFM

[Paul Bergsagel]

Hawker wrote:

A few months ago I discovered that GoFundMe does not display properly.
The text is bunched up in the cover photo. I tried various other UA 
strings and all the usual stuff that fixes this for me with no luck. It 
displays properly in FireFox.


Are others seeing this? Any fix or just  add this to the, sigh, 
increasing list of websites that don't fully work with Seamonkey?


The Go Fund Me site appears to work for me, my only issue is that the 
site uses rather small fonts but still displays correctly.


SeaMonkey 2.49.5 MacOS 10.14.6
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Re: Silverlight in 2.49.5

[Paul Bergsagel]

andy.pearl...@gmail.com wrote:

Was Silverlight removed from 2.49.5 or am I just not checking the right box? It 
works for me in 2.49.4, even when I re-download it. It just displays a white 
box in 2.49.5.

Thanks!

Andy

I didn't know anyone still used Silverlight since it has been 
depreciated by Microsoft since 2011.

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Re: Create IE Bookmark for Seamonkey?

[Paul Bergsagel]

Thomas Pamin wrote:
There is a weather site that doesn't work in SM (actually none of the 
Accuweather radar sites work in SM). It does work in IE, so I'm trying 
to create a bookmark for SM that will open in IE. Maybe it's not 
possible, but any suggestions?


https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/national/weather-radar

WFM...I'm in Canada and the  Accuweather radar works for me.

SeaMonkey 2.49.5 MacOS 10.14.6

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Re: Lightning Found

[Paul Bergsagel]

rob wrote:
I found the lightning extension. I had copied my old 2.49.4 profile and 
it didn't have the correct version of Lightning. I found the correct one 
in a new default profile, and copied it to my old profile. I then had to 
enable it and it worked.


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Re: 2.49.5: Blurry fonts on Mail/Newsgroups Page

[Paul Bergsagel]

William Greenwood wrote:
Compared to 2.49.4, fonts displaying email and newsgroup accounts are 
noticeably blurrier in 2.49.5 as are message lists.
What OS are you using?  I don't notice the blurry font issue you are 
experiencing (I am using MacOS).


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SeaMonkey 2.49.5 thankful for the release.

[Paul Bergsagel]

Hi,

A big thanks to the developers on the release of 2.49.5

Seamonky 2.49.5 fixed a website that did not display correctly. Once 
again thanks.


I would like to help out and test 2.53.x--I am hesitant since I have 
heard that once you have installed 2.53.x the user profile changes and 
is no longer compatible with 2.49.x so I am hesitant to do any testing. 
Maybe when 2.53 is ready for full time use I will consider testing and 
filing bugs.


Thanks developers and testers. BTW I am using MacOS.
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Re: Did my SeaMonkey v2.49.4 lose my e-mail on an SMTP connect error?

[Paul Bergsagel]

Just a hunch->Maybe the email is saved in the sent folder before the 
email is sent so if the send fails the email is still saved.



Ant wrote:
Oh wait. I see them in its sent folder after restarting my SM. Whew, but 
why saved if they didn't get e-mailed from that server connect error? I 
sent a test e-mail, got the error, saw my saved sent copy, checked my 
other account, and didn't get it in its inbox. :(



On 9/3/2019 1:23 PM, Ant wrote:
smtpauth.earthlink.net server is currently giving me "An error 
occurred while sending mail: The mail server sent an incorrect 
greeting:  Too many concurrent SMTP connections; please try again 
later..". So, I said OK but that e-mail vanished. It's not in my sent, 
draft, etc. Did my SeaMonkey v2.49.4 lose it? :(-- 

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wfm MacOS SeaMonkey 2.49.4

[Paul Bergsagel]

Unless I am missing something this site appears to work for me.

Gabriel wrote:

Hi all,

I often notice in SM (now 2.53 but it was the same with 2.49) that some 
content is missing, usually the social sharing icons.

I can't find any ad-blocker or similar in my installation.

Eg. this page when viewed in Safari shows on the left side 5 icons 
vertically aligned, while in SM there's nothing:

https://zapier.com/learn/ecommerce/best-ecommerce-shopping-cart-software/

What can cause this behaviour?

Thank you!


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Re: Ver. 2.53--2.53.1

[Paul Bergsagel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Back up your profile and find it out. For me much better than 2.49.x but 
ymmv. Some old extensions might be broken because of all the changes.


FRG

JAS wrote:
How stable are the SM 2.53 builds by WG9s? I currently run SM 2.49.4 
32 bit on Win 7 Pro


Thanks,

JAS
One question-> Is there anything major that fails in the 2.53 builds by 
W9Gs?  Is the browser and email usable (i.e. bug proof enough) for use 
full time? I am aware that the profile for 2.49.x and 2.53.x are not 
compatible.  I using an iMac and can revert to 2.49.x if need be using 
Time Machine. Is 2.53.x of a quality that I can switch to it full time?



Thanks in advance for any replies.
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the instructions you need xfinity/comcast

[Paul Bergsagel]

All the settings xfinity/comcast recommends for setting up email:

https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/email-client-programs-with-xfinity-email

Hopefully this should help.  Disregard my reply if you have already 
tried these settings.


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Very Thankful to the developers.

[Paul Bergsagel]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/21/2019 10:52 PM, Ronnie wrote:

Hi all,

Just wondering when the next version of seamonkey might be out as I want
to be prepared for any gotcha's before I release LXLE with seamonkey as
the default browser as usual. I don't want to release the OS in a week
or so only to have an update to seamonkey come through and break a few
things that could have been addressed before release. If it's expected
relatively soon I'll wait.

thanks,
ronnie



I will be eternally patient.  After all, SeaMonkey is free; and its
developers are unpaid volunteers.

Thanks to all who are working on the upgrade for SeaMonkey.  You work is 
appreciated

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SeaMonkey 2.57 for MacOS

[Paul Bergsagel]

Hi,

I am wondering if the SeaMonkey 2.57 (found here 
https://www.wg9s.com/comm-257/ ) is only good enough for testing, or if 
it is bug free enough to be used daily as a replacement for SeaMonkey 
2.49.4?


Can someone who has used 2.57 On MacOS X tell me some of their 
experience and if they think WG9s SeaMonkey 2.57 for MacOS X is good 
enough (i.e. bug free) to replace Seamonkey 2.49.4 on a daily basis?


Thanks.
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Re: Images not expanding

[Paul Bergsagel]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:


On 7/31/2019 6:31 AM, Hawker wrote:

Can anyone tell me if this is a dated SM issue or if I need to change a
setting?

Recently on Home Depot's website when I click on images to expand they
do not open. It works fine on FireFox. Spoofing UA did not help.
Does it work for others?

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-Slim-Directional-4-in-Color-Selectable-Canless-LED-Recessed-Kit-91279/306079882 





1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences].

2.  On the left side of the Preferences window, select [Appearance >
Content].

The checkbox for "Zoom only text instead of full pages" should NOT be
checked.


I have the same behavior as the OP, with that box unchecked.

When I mouse over the image, the cursor changes to a hand, as if it were 
a link, but right-clicking does not offer the usual link options (open 
in new tab, etc.). Instead, I get image options (view image, etc.).


Javascript is enabled in the browser.


The Home Depot works for me.  all the images open as expected.

I'm using SeaMonkey 2.49.4 and MacOS 10.14.5.

Is Home Depot not sniffing for SeaMonkey 2.49.4 so the site works.  Also 
I am not spoofing any version of Firefox.  You might try using the site 
without spoofing Firefox.  In general I find that many sites function 
much better (i.e. as expected) when I do not turn of Firefox 
compatibility or spoof a recent version of Firefox. As an example Google 
search works best for me when I do not spoof Firefox.

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Re: Suddenly frequent SM crashes

[Paul Bergsagel]

Ken Rudolph wrote:
SeaMonkey has crashed 3 times in the past 3 hours and once last night. 
I've gone several months without crashes; so this cluster comes out of 
the blue.


Win 10.0 17134
SM 2.49.1esr

Each has the same crash reason:  EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION_READ

There's lots more in the crash report that I think was automatically 
sent to Mozilla.  But I was wondering if anybody has an idea of what to 
do about this?


If you haven't rebooted your computer in a while, then it is worth 
rebooting to see if it clears up the crashes.


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Simple solution for Google search box: (Re: google search box)

[Paul Bergsagel]

I suffered from the Google search mess with SeaMonkey.  Then I came 
across a solution: I turned off "advertise Firefox compatibility".


To turn off "advertise Firefox compatibility" go to SeaMonkey's 
preferences click on Advance>HTTP Networking>(uncheck)Advertise Firefox 
compatibility.


This fix solved the difficulties I was having with Google.

Google returned to its normal appearance.  Also With this setting turned 
off I have yet to find any negative effects on other sites. With this 
setting turned off, some sites even appear to work.





Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:



Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote on 19/06/2019 2:41 PM:

On 6/18/2019 8:10 PM, Ronnie wrote:
I've been dealing with this quite a while and wonder if it's just me 
and

if not whats the fix... the search box in google with seamonkey is
hosed... the cursor places itself in a weird position and only allows
for so many characters to be entered before it starts to be hidden...


Windows 7
SeaMonkey 2.49.4

If I use Google, I always use its Advanced Search at
.  I do not see your
problem there.

However, I generally search with DuckDuckGo at
.  They do not capture and retain any
information about me and my searches.

I seem to recall, some time ago, someone reporting that, when they 
used a (Google??) search engine, they were having difficulties seeing 
the text they entered  as though, to start, they were entering 
their text on line 2 of a 1.5 line high text box.


Some letters you could work out by their tops, some letters you could 
not work out!


I don't recall what the fix was ... as I also use dickduckgo.com.



Google does incorrect user agent sniffing and return html gobblygock to 
SeaMonkey. You need to set a plain Firefox user agent for this to work.


FRG


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Re: Link to Firefox browser side? Possible solution

[Paul Bergsagel]

Have you tried turning off "Advertise Firefox compatibility" in the 
preferences:  Preferences > Advanced > Http Networking. ?


Some website will think the user is using an outdated version of Firefox 
when the box "Advertise Firefox compatibility" is checked?  Google will 
not display its search site properly if the box is checked.  I have 
found that many sites function better by not Advertising Firefox 
compatibility, even some sites that would not work at  all when the box 
is checked.


Try turning off "Advertise Firefox compatibility" and see if Netflick works.

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Re: (En/Dis)able JS in SeaMonkey's email client?

[Paul Bergsagel]

Ant wrote:
I swore it used to exist, but I can't find it in my v2.49.4 and on 
Google search. Where is it if it exists? Or was it removed long ago? :(


Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)In the preferences I was only able to find a way to turn off Javascript 
for the browser.  There was no preference to turn Javascript on/off for 
Mail and Newsgroups.  Maybe turning off Javascript for the browser will 
also turn it off for Mail and Newsgroups?  The setting is found in 
preferences Preferences->Advanced->Scripts and Plugins.

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Re: macOS Mojave 10.14.5: SM 2.53 kernel panics

[Paul Bergsagel]

WFM using 2.49.4 and MacOS 10.14.5. Did you try safe mode or using a 
using a new profile?


Gabriel wrote:

Hi all,

today I updated my iMac to the latest Mojave 10.14.5 and now I can't use 
SM 2.53 anymore! Suddendly the screen started to show graphical 
artifacts (like when the GPU is broken) and then the Mac restarted 
itself as in kernel panic! :-(


Other programs work fine. I tried SM 2.57 in safe mode but it doesn't 
correctly show the session restore window cause I can't see the button 
to start it.


Someone else is having the same issue? Thank you!


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Re: Can't Print Bing Maps

[Paul Bergsagel]

Tom Pamin wrote:
I'm no longer able to print from Bing Maps. I get a mesage: "There was 
an unexpected problem while printing." It works fine using IE. Any ideas?

Can you provide a link to the page you are trying to print from?
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re: Fix for incorrect google search box

[Paul Bergsagel]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
As mentioned here several times before, I find Google services (at least 
search and maps) work best in SeaMonkey with "Advertise Firefox 
Compatibility" disabled, and exhibit those sort of issues with text 
input and menus when it's enabled.


Thanks. Disabling "advertise Firefox compatibility" restored the normal 
Google search box.


To turn off "Advertise Firefox compatibility" go to 
Preferences->advanced->Http Networking.  Uncheck "advertise Firefox 
compatibility".

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Re: Browsing in Wary Puppy 5.5

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Daniel wrote:

martinlant...@gmail.com wrote on 15/03/2019 5:58 AM:

Hello, Recently ive installed PuppyLinux Wary 5.5 on my Pentium 3 Pc.
I'm new with it. Now i used the standard Seamonkey browser to try
visit YouTube. But i can't reach the site because of outdated
software it seems.

Whatsapp should i do? Can i Just intall a newer version Seamonkey or
update it?

Would like to hear how to make it all work.

Martin


NOTE: The OP is asking for a SeaMonkey that works on a Pentium 3 PC,
i.e. maybe twenty years old tech!!

Does any (current'ish) SeaMonkey work on that vintage tech?? Should OP
try a Mozilla Suite, maybe??
Very likely there is ma version of SeaMonkey that will work on a Pentium 
3 PC.  Although if  the version of SeaMonkey is too old very likely 
websites will not render correctly or at all.

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Re: How set default text encoding display in Seamonkey Mail ?

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Rubens wrote:


Hello all,


I am receiving some Unicode-encoded e-mails which look garbled because
Seamonkey always try to display them with Western encoding in the first 
place,
so I always have to manually change the Text Encoding option for every 
Unicode e-mail I read.


In the "Text Encoding - Message Display" preferences setting I tried 
both the "Default for current locale" and the "Other (including Western 
European)"
but none gets what I need (to force opening every e-mail in Unicode 
viewing mode).


Can anybody help ? My Seamonkey version is 2.49.4, language UK English 
and my OS is Windows 7  Pro 64-bit, language US English.



Thanks in advance,


Rubens

Unicode must be set separately for the browser and for email.

To Set Unicode for email:
  --open an email window and go to the menus item  "View"->"Text 
Encoding" and select "Unicode" at the top of the list.



To Set Unicode for the browser:
  --open a browser window and go to the menus item  "View"->"Text 
Encoding" and select "Unicode" at the top of the list.


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Re: Very high CPU usage on this website

[Paul Bergsagel]

flyguy wrote:
Seamonkey 2.49.4 (Win 10 OS) CPU usage goes from about 5% to 65% after I 
load this cartoon website:


https://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/

Using Chrome, the same web site causes only a 5% rise in CPU usage. 
Every thing slows down, the fan comes on loudly - What the heck is going 
on with Seamonkey, and can it fixed?
On my iMac SeaMonkey increases CPU only about 5-7%  after the webpage 
finished its initial loading. On my Mac I do not see high memory usage.

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pdfjs is built into firefox--do we need pdfjs?

[Paul Bergsagel]

G. Ross wrote:

Mr. Cheese wrote:

Not sure when it started but I can no longer view/print PDF's I may have
to ditch SeaMonkey (been a user since newscape days)
Anyone know how to get around this problem before I take such drastic
action?

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Get the Foxit plugin.  And stop advertising AVG.



Since Firefox 19 pdfjs has been built in and FFox one no longer requires 
pdfjs to be installed to view pdfs.


Does this mean that pdfjs is also built in to SeaMonkey as well? Do 
users of SeaMonkey need to install pdfjs separately to view pdfs?

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Mozilla and Thunderbird

[Paul Bergsagel]

I just read an article on ZDNet

(https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-open-source-thunderbird-getting-new-look-better-gmail-support-encryption/?ftag=TRE-03-10aaa6b=19709119134809512170913331413282)

It seems Mozilla has renewed interest in the Thunderbird email client. 
Mozilla has even hired six new programmers to work on Mozilla.


Does anyone have any ideas how this move might effect SeaMonkey? Will 
SeaMonkey be able to benefit from improvements/modernizations to 
Thunderbird's code?


Do you think this move might effect SeaMonkey in any way?
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Re: Using jq to clean/organize bookmarks? (plug in)

[Paul Bergsagel]

Richard Owlett wrote:

My bookmarks have grown like Topsy
I have many duplicates and the tree structure is a mess.
I have two primary goals:
  1. find and purge duplicates.
  2. move folders around to create a more reasonable structure.

After trying several approaches and looking for useful tools I found
jq [https://stedolan.github.io/jq/]. One related page I found is titled
"jq is sed for JSON".

An outline of a possible procedure might be:
 1. Export SeaMonkey bookmarks in JSON format.
 2. use jq to pretty print the JSON. It does so nicely.
 3. Find duplicate targets and delete all but one.
 4. Each leaf of the bookmark tree is an object.
Move these objects around to create a more friendly tree.
 5. Import the clean organized bookmarks.

Has anyone done this?
Is there a friendly in depth jq tutorial? The ones I've found tend to be
on the "Hello world" level. There is just enough to tantalize.

Links of interest include:
https://stedolan.github.io/jq/manual/v1.5/
http://stedolan.github.io/jq/tutorial/
https://robots.thoughtbot.com/jq-is-sed-for-json





I have a limited understanding of programming and do not consider myself 
a programmer at all. Here is my question: "Would it be possible to 
create a plug in that would sort and locate duplicate bookmarks from 
within SeaMonkey rather than having to export the bookmarks and use an 
outside program?  Isn't there a way to automate advanced bookmark 
management using a plug in?"


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Re: Email address autocomplete no longer working

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j.e.laba...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 4:48:24 PM UTC-4, Hartmut Figge wrote:

http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm180725.png




Nope, that's exactly the dialogue box I checked, all settings there are 
correct, autocomplete still not working.


Here is a stab in the dark that might solve autocomplete issue:

Go to the preferences->  Browser-> Autocomplete

Check the two boxes under autocomplete  "Automatically suggest websites 
from History" and "Show list of matching results"


This is just a guess, but I wonder if Autocomplete is disabled in the 
Browser then Autocomplete may not work in the address bar in Mail.


Let us know if this works.
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Re: After installing seamonkey browser it said that "this connection is untrusted. You have asked SeaMonkey to connect securely to www.seamonkey-project.org but we cannot confirm that connection is se

[Paul Bergsagel]

mode...@gmail.com wrote:

After installing seamonkey browser it said that "this connection is untrusted. 
You have asked SeaMonkey to connect securely to www.seamonkey-project.org but we 
cannot confirm that connection is secure. This website's identity can't be verivied.

I don't know if it would be safe to cancel the message and use SeaMonkey 
browser or if it would even work.
Please advise

I had something similar happen with a site claiming that the connection 
was untrusted and denied my connection. There is a solution which worked 
for me. Go to the SeaMonkey preferences->Privacy & Security->SSL/TLS. 
Under "SSL/TLS Protocol Versions make sure you check TLS 1.0  TSL 1.1 
TLS 1.2. (note TSL 1.1 will have a check mark but be greyed out).  Some 
web pages have not been updated to newer protocols and if the earlier 
protocols(TSL 1.0) have been disabled the site will not load and be 
flagged as untrustworthy.


I hope this helps.
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Re: HTML5 support

[Paul Bergsagel]

chokito wrote:

On my Windows 7 64-bit works Netflix only with no Seamonkey in the user agent:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 works 
fine.

Here is my  User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; 
rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46


and I have no difficulty playing the video.  I did NOT have to remove 
SeaMonkey from the user agent for the video to play.


The only plugins are: VLC Web Plugin and Quicktime Plugin

and

extensions: Adblock Plus and PDF Viewer.

I do not have Silverlight installed. Silverlight does not appear to be 
needed to play the video.

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

[Paul Bergsagel]

Mozilla User wrote:

I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.

YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.

And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.

I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser
did.. and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most
of my history on the internet.

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I am not experiencing any of the problems or issues you describe. 
SeaMonkey works perfectly for me.


Possibly you may need to check the way your computer or SeaMonkey is 
configured.


If SeaMonkey operated in the manner you describe the SeaMonkey forum 
would have many more posts than yours wondering why SeaMonkey was not 
operating correctly.


It may also be that I have a much different experience than you do since 
I am using the MacOS.


YouTube works perfectly with SeaMonkey. Nine times out of ten the only 
time SeaMonkey fails to function as expected is when a web page is badly 
written by not following the standard rules for designing web pages.


A final thought: maybe you are a troll. I hope not.
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Re: Assess error (possibly do to SM blocking)

[Paul Bergsagel]

WFM using SeaMonkey 2.46 on Mac OS 10.7.5.

stan wrote:

I am on SM 2.49.1, same error:
Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "http://www.godaddy.com/; on this
server.

Reference #18.d62e12d1.1513316090.19f0b7b2

Other browsers work a OK, GoDaddy.com claims that it can't be on their
side.

Could it be some virus?


stan wrote:

It did not worked.
Where did you got SM 2.49.1?
Highest I see is SM 2.46




WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/12/17 2:14 PM, stan wrote:

Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "http://www.godaddy.com/?; on this
server.

Reference #18.6c384317.1513105848.26ec1d4a


No problem accessing it here using SM 2.49.1.

Restart in Safe Mode and try again. If it works, one of your extensions
is causing your problem.

Or try 







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Re: AOL Help Needed.

[Paul Bergsagel]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I just wrote:


I got the same message as the OP, and it doesn't say you can't use your
current settings, it says you have until Nov. 7 to fix whatever it is
that's bothering them. I've been using my current settings without
trouble since the takeover, and I'm damned if I can see how they don't
comply with AOHell's requirements. Here's my response to them:


From what I can tell, my settings do conform to your requirements.
What is it that you want me to change?

Current settings:

POP3: pop.verizon.net, port 995, SSL/TLS, normal password
SMTP: smtp.verizon.net, port 465, SSL/TLS, normal password

Do you want encrypted passwords?

Or do you have a faulty routine that generates false error messages?


FWIW, I just tried setting the authentication method to "Encrypted
password," and SM reported that the server doesn't seem to support that.
So that's not the answer.

The AOHell requirements for POP3 mail are:


Incoming mail server (POP3): pop.verizon.net, port 995, SSL

Outgoing mail server (SMTP): smtp.verizon.net, port 465, SSL

Make sure SSL encryption is enabled for the incoming and outgoing
mail server.


I don't see how to select "SSL encryption" distinctly from "SSL/TLS,"
and I'm not sure they are even different.

Quoting WIKIPEDIA: "Transport Layer Security (TLS) and its predecessor, 
Secure Sockets Layer (SSL), both frequently referred to as "SSL", are 
cryptographic protocols that provide communications security over a 
computer network.[1] Several versions of the protocols find widespread 
use in applications such as web browsing, email, Internet faxing, 
instant messaging, and voice-over-IP (VoIP). Websites are able to use 
TLS to secure all communications between their servers and web browsers."


It seems that SSL is the name used for both SSL and TLS. TLS has 
superseded SSL. If there are separate settings in SeaMonkey for SSL and 
TSL, you might try using TLS.


(I thought AOL internet was so last century, ;) .)
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Re: Can Not play HTML5 videos

[Paul Bergsagel]

Danny Kile wrote:

Can Not play YouTube HTML5 videos, in SeaMonkey 2.48. This link will not
run, https://youtu.be/9MkQmrK_Mnk .I get the following error where the
video should be. "Your browser does not currently recognize any of the
video formats available. Click here to visit our frequently ask
questions about HTML5 videos."

This does not offer me any solutions. The video plays just fine with
(yuk) IE. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

The video worked for me with flash disabled. The HTML5 video played 
without adding any codecs Seamonkey 2.46 on MacOS 7.5


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:49.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46

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FF 57 Changes and SeaMonkey

[Paul Bergsagel]

Hi,

I am wondering how all the new changes to FF57 will effect SeaMonkey?

Will most of the changes be to the rendering engine, Gecko (or whatever 
the new rendering engine will be called). Will we see a lot of new 
changes to how we as end users interact with and use SeaMonkey?


Can anyone provide an update as to what the changes to FF 57 will mean 
for SeaMonkey?


Thanks.
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WFM Re: Weird error from viki.com

[Paul Bergsagel]

WFM MacOS X SeaMonkey 2.46

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Anyone else seeing this?

Since this morning, if I try to visit  I get only
this error message:

{"error":"not found","vcode":8500}

Source and meaning of error message are unknown to me.

Revealing page source (CTRL-U) is not helpful; that's the entire source
code.

No trouble (page loads normally) on other devices or other browsers.

Clearing cache and cookies, restarting SM has no effect.

Rebooting computer has no effect.

Other websites are unaffected.

Disabling AdBlock Plus everywhere has no effect.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0
SeaMonkey/2.46

Thanks.



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Re: browser gone

[Paul Bergsagel]

rjkrjk wrote:

seems I clicked on something, and now I can't get to the browser

I think it was VIEW

help !!

Go here:  File->New->New Browser Window
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Re: 2.46 data manager not working

[Paul Bergsagel]

bern...@nospam.com wrote:

Having a problem with data manager in 2.46  I tried to get into my
password list and the window comes up and locks up. Went back to 2.40
works perfect. Any ideas?
Just a thought...When I open the data manager for the first time in a 
session the data manager seems to lock up. After about 30-40 seconds the 
data manager "unlocks" as works normally. The data manager works, but 
takes a long time to open for the first time, making it seem that the 
data manager has locked up.

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Rendering engines Servo vs Gecko

[Paul Bergsagel]

Does anyone know if the new Mozilla Servo rendering engine will be 
replacing the Gecko rendering engine in SeaMonkey?

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2.46 SeaMonkey and Mac OS 10.7.5

[Paul Bergsagel]

Hi,

According to posts I have read in this newsgroup Seamonkey 2.46 no 
longer supports Mac OS 6-8. Is this true?


I am running 2.46 on a late 2006 iMac running 10.7.5 Seamonkey runs very 
well on my iMac. I have not noticed any issues or problems with 
SeaMonkey. So why do developers such as Edmund Wong claim that 2.46 will 
not run on Mac OS 10.6-8?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

[Paul Bergsagel]

Ant wrote:

On 12/23/2016 5:28 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 12/23/2016 12:59 AM, Philipp van Hüllen wrote:

Edmund Wong schrieb:

Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!



Working fine so far here (including update):
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:49.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46


Same for Mac OS X v10.8.5/Mountain Lion and 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 boxes.


How's it running so far on 10.8?


It seems OK for brief usage. I rarely use that old MacBook Pro so I
can't say much.

Runs without any issues on my lat 2006 iMac running MacOS 10.7.5.

2.46 seems to run a lot faster. A good release for my geriatric iMac. 
Thanks developers.

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(Mac 10.6-10.8 )Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

[Paul Bergsagel]

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Hello,

I contributed some additional release notes here


Please feel free to comment, correct, add information, ...

CU

Rainer


Rainer I just read on your release notes

"MAC: AFAIK Support for OSX 10.6 to 10.8 has became discontinued in 
2.46. Nothing we can do about it. It is removed from the Gecko 49 engine 
and Firefox 49"


I am running 10.7.5 on a late 2006 iMac. Yesterday I went to the help 
menu and saw that Seamonkey 2.46 had downloaded and was ready to 
install. I installed it and am happily running 2.46 for several hours 
and have not encountered any problems or issues.


I would suggest anyone with Mac OS 10.6 to 10.8 try 2.46, BUT a word of 
caution as your mileage may vary. Make sure you have a recent backup of 
SeaMonkey 2.40 on your Time Machine backup just in case.



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Re: How to install pdf.js

[Paul Bergsagel]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/3/2016 11:03 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/3/2016 9:06 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:

Does anyone know how to install pdf.js in SeaMomkey?

I have heard that it works with Seamonkey 2.40+

The installer linked here:
http://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/extensions/firefox/pdf.js.xpi
fails to install pdf.js

Is ther another way to install it. Idowloaded all the separate files for
pdf.js, but did not know how to manually install the files.

I need detailed installation instructions. Any help would be much
appreciated.



Download the file from
<http://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/extensions/firefox/pdf.js.xpi> to a
folder or to your desktop.

With SeaMonkey still running, select the file, drag it, and drop it into
the display area of SeaMonkey.

Alternatively, go to [Tools > Add-ons Manager] on the SeaMonkey menu
bar.  At the top of the Add-ons Manager window or tab, there is a button
with a star or gear just to the left of the "Search all add-ons" input
area.  Select the button with the star and then select "Install Add-on
 From File" in the pull-down menu.  Navigate to where the file was
downloaded, select it, and select the Open button.



I forgot the following for after you install PDF.js:

On the left side of the Add-ons Manager window, select Plugins.  If you
can find an entry for Adobe Acrobat, select the button to the right of
that entry.  On the pull-down menu, select Never Activate.

Thank you David for your assistance. Your instructions worked. I am 
using OS X 10.7.5 and Seamonkey 2.40 would not download the file 
pdf.js.xpi. I still do not know why Seamonkey would not download this 
file. I switched to the safari browser and the file downloaded instantly 
and using your instructions was able to install pdf viewer into SeaMonkey.

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How to install pdf.js

[Paul Bergsagel]

Does anyone know how to install pdf.js in SeaMomkey?

I have heard that it works with Seamonkey 2.40+

The installer linked here:
http://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/extensions/firefox/pdf.js.xpi
fails to install pdf.js

Is ther another way to install it. Idowloaded all the separate files for 
pdf.js, but did not know how to manually install the files.


I need detailed installation instructions. Any help would be much 
appreciated.

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Re: Small font displaying poorly on this website, but it looks good in Firefox

[Paul Bergsagel]

i...@opensesamedoor.com wrote:

When I look at this website (this is the first time I noticed the problem), the 
small fonts are distorted. The same site looks fine in Firefox.
See this page as an example: https://www.malwarebytes.com/products/


Looks fine to me ->Seamonkey 2.40 OS10 (10.7.5)

Try clearing your cache and try the page again.
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.46 status updates in blog...

[Paul Bergsagel]

Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2016/09/28/2-46/
Does this mean going forward that future releases will be easier for the 
developers to produce or will each release involve this much work?


BTW thanks for all the hard work getting this release ready.
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Re: Seamonkey release?

[Paul Bergsagel]

Stephan Thiele wrote:

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I don't really understand why
there still is no Seamonkey update after the 2.40 release in March,
almost half a year ago.
I am quite confused that there a nightlies with version numbers
increasing to 2.48 while there is not even a beta.
Seamonkey is my default browser and mail and news program, so I don't
like to take any risk of losing my data and mails by using a buggy
nightly. On the other hand, I see a lot of security updates of Firefox
and Thunderbird which have been published in the meantime and therefore
I'm concerned about unfixed vulnerabilities in Seamonkey.

Any hope?
Yes, There is a lot of work to be done between releases. Our Seamonkey 
programmers are volunteers,and should be praised for all the wonderful 
work they put in to maintain Seamonkey. They can only do so much as 
volunteers and can not work on Seamonkey full time.


I love SeaMonkey and thank all our programmers.I can wait a bit longer, 
if it means that SeaMonkey will continue to be updated and usable.


Give the SeaMonkey developers a break since the Firefox developers keep 
adding changes to the underlying Gecko technology that both Firefox, 
Thunderbird and Seamonkey uses. Some of the changes to Gecko are not 
compatible with Seamonkey. Our Seamonkey programmers do amazing work 
adapting/reverting Gecko changes made by FireFox programmers so that 
Seamonky and NOT some offshoot clone of Firefox.I praise the SeaMonkey 
programmers for their tireless work maintaining and keeping SeaMonkey as 
Seamonkey and not some offshoot or clone of FireFox.



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Re: Delayed Initialization?

[Paul Bergsagel]

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 8/9/2016 at 4:05 PM, Gerry Hickman's prodigious digits fired off:

David E. Ross wrote:

It seems that when I launch SeaMonkey, there is always a delay in
visiting the first Web page I select.  If I clear that site's cookies
and delete my cache, revisiting that page is much quicker.


My experience on Windows, is that it's changed over time. At one stage
there was a "preload" of DLLs that were supposed to load once, then sit
on the task bar to make the browser load more quickly (I didn't like
this), but anyway, a few builds later (around year 2004) launching the
SM browser was really quick and I forgot about it.

To test SM load time, I usually set the home page to a local HTML file,
so it doesn't need internet access to launch, thereby cutting out any
home page related network issues.

Now in 2016, I get "slow" load time of around four seconds, but I think
it's related to something in the network stack (e.g. winsock) where it's
much more bloated that it used to be, and in my case there's a VPN
virtual adapter which seems to cause a delay.

There's also the SM user profile and SM cache which can get quite big,
so it's worth trying with a clean profile.



I also have a local HTML file as my home page, and it loads instantly.
If I click an Internet link on that page it also loads nearly instantly.

For instance, my own site  appears with no
perceptible/countable time lag.

My suspicion is that the more complex the page the longer this lag time 
is. In my experience if a page does not have very complex html and few, 
if any scripts, the page will load quickly.

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Re: flash problems-test flash

[Paul Bergsagel]

Pat Connors wrote:

I have been using 2.40 and ever since I installed it, I have been having
flash problems.  I re-installed the flash soon after I installed 2.40
but it still is not normal.  If I go on a site with alot of pictures or
graphic, it freezes and then I get the flash message that it has stopped
working.  Any suggestions?

You may want to go to the Adobe web page and test your flash 
instillation to verify it is installed correctly.


http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

If you are able to view the short animation flash is installed correctly 
on your system. If you don't see the animation, unistall and reintall 
flash from the Adobe site.

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Re: Can't Watch MLB.TV Games

[Paul Bergsagel]

Sanpam wrote:

Sanpam wrote:

Is anyone able to watch the live games on MLB.TV with SM? All I get is a
spinning circle. The games work fine using IE 11. Any fix for this? I
think it does involve flash.


I see now the same problem exists with foxsportsgo.com. The live games
and other videos only show a blank page with SM, but it all works well
on IE and my iPhone 6S.

I think SM has definite problems with flash, and by deactivating it all
the time now nothing works that does work on IE. This could sure tend to
drive customers away to other browsers
Are you sure flash is the problem...iOS does not allow flash and it 
works. Maybe MBL.TV is having an issue with flash.


By the way, I cannot remember the last time I had a issue with flash 
using SeaMonkey (MacOS X 10.7.5).


What format are the games being streamed in? SeaMonkey doesn't support 
all codecs. Is the game being streamed using .mp4 which Seamonkey does 
not support (for royalty reasons)?

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Re: No internal updates yet? Re: SeaMonkey 2.40 released

[Paul Bergsagel]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 03/16/2016 08:38 PM, Desiree wrote:

On 3/16/2016 8:43 AM, Ant wrote:

On 3/14/2016 8:42 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 3/14/2016 9:28 AM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:
...

BTW IMPORTANT->the Check for updates menu items is broken on the Mac
claiming there is no new update.

Please go here to find the update
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/


No updates found in my very old, updated Windows XP Pro SP3 machine
too!
What's up?


Hmmm.  Just what I kinda feared.  I must've done something
wrong with the partials or update placement. :(


Any updates? :)


Yes, approximately how much longer before internal updates are
available?  (Windows 8.0 Pro).


Love how everybody was fine using version 2.39 while the developers
worked out the problems, thanked them for their work, told them to take
their time, and now it's where is the update. :)


There is a new 2.40 release. In future read the entire post history.
Only the incremental, in place, update is broken. Geeze ;) .
To get the recent Seamonkey 2.40 release go here:

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

This not the incremental, in place, update. You have to download the 
whole program, Seamonkey 2.40 and then replace v 2.39 with v. 2.40.


Thanks again for all the hard work that went into making this release a 
reality.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.40 released

[Paul Bergsagel]

Burry wrote:

On 14.03.16 16:48, Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!


cut

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.40
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.40/


Works here(HP xp media centre sp3 2.93GHZ) ,
but youtube(html5) stutters a bit, and no fullscreen.

YouTube WFM Mac 10.7.5
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.40 released

[Paul Bergsagel]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Please note that the website information, while updated for
2.40, still requires a bit more work.

We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.

It has been a very tough release.  I think it's the
toughest one I've done.  However, this isn't to say that
I did this alone.  Kudos go to a lot of people, particularly
the guys/gals in Mozilla's IT and RelEng dept.

I particularly want to thank Nick Thomas for his sheer
brilliant idea that helped me unhork the partial mar upload
script as well as pointing out the necessary changes
to migrate off FTP to S3.

Thanks to Jens Hatlak for taking the time to do the Website
patch. (Really, sorry for the delay.)

Also, thanks to Justin Wood for giving me this opportunity
to work out the problems myself.  If you all take a look
at bug 1233615,  I think I rivaled the mess I did with
the GTK bug (conveniently forgotten the # :P ).  The
repo changes I made...  oh boy.  Only time will heal
the mess^H^H^H^H wounds. ;P

Anyway, most of all, thanks to all the users out there
for hanging on to this project.  The words of encouragement
(especially during the broken-hand period) definitely gave
me a boost of energy.

Oh.  Before I forget and in the light of being transparent,
there is a chance I might have goofed something up, especially
during the 2.39 Win32 builds as well as the 2.40 builds and
also the partial mar and complete mar updates.  I hope I
didn't screw things up too much, if at all (here's hoping).
Please do post here on your findings.


Anyway, thanks again.


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.40
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.40/

Thank you Edmund, and all the others, who helped to release SeaMonkey 
2.40. for the ten minutes I have been running v. 2.40 on Mac X 10.7.5 it 
seems to be a fine, stable release.


BTW IMPORTANT->the Check for updates menu items is broken on the Mac 
claiming there is no new update.


Please go here to find the update 
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

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Re: Software Update check fails -- Now fixed

[Paul Bergsagel]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Rich Gray wrote:


Anyone else seeing this??

My Mac and an old XP system just say that there's no update available,
as normal.  ewong checked and did not see the problem either.



Should be ok now.

Edmund


Thanks. I saw this issue yesterday. Today WFM.
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Re: Software Update check fails with xml error - Win 7

[Paul Bergsagel]

Rich Gray wrote:

My work workstation went to check for updates about an hour ago and
produced a error saying:

Update Failed

There were problems checking for, downloading or installing this update.
SeaMonkey could not be updated because:

Update XML file malformed(200)



User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/42.0 SeaMonkey/2.39
Build identifier: 20151103191810

This is a Win7 Pro system which checks daily.  No problems in the past.

Anyone else seeing this??

My Mac and an old XP system just say that there's no update available,
as normal.  ewong checked and did not see the problem either.


I am seeing this issue on a 2006 iMac Mac OS 10.7

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/42.0 SeaMonkey/2.39


I get the exact same error message as the OP.
"Update Failed".
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Re: SeaMonkey Remains Busy After Loading a Web Page

[Paul Bergsagel]

David E. Ross wrote:

When I visit certain Web pages with SeaMonkey, the trobber continues to
show activity and the Stop button remains enabled well after the page
has finished rendering.  Selecting the Stop button does not stop this
activity.  Disabling JavaScript and then selecting the Stop button after
the page is rendered does not terminate the activity.

One page where I see this is .  What is going on?

I have seen this issue several times. I don't know what the issue is, 
but isn't there a time that should time out iff something fails to 
finish loading?


BTW the Slashdot link you posted WFM, the throbber  stops after the page 
loads. I wonder if the issue occurs randomly? Does the problem occur 
ever time a problem page is visited?

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Re: Seamonkey 2.40?

[Paul Bergsagel]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

It's been awhile, and Firefox has already had multiple releases since
Seamonkey 2.39.  What's the story?

I believe SeaMonkey 2.40 is presently in the works. The programmer in 
charge of compiling the code broke his arm (I think?), so there is a 
delay in producing the new version.


Anyway I am happy to wait to get the next SeaMonkey version. Thanks to 
all the programmers who help to produce my favourite browser/email 
program. Your work is very much appreciated.

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Mozilla PDF.js was PDF Adobe in SeaMonkey

[Paul Bergsagel]

DoctorBill wrote:

I often get Mail where a pdf file needs Adobe reader to see it.
I have Adobe Reader, but it is not associated with SM.
I have to click on the link that says I don't have Adobe !  THEN it
loads.  Kind of clunky.

Is there a way to get the Adobe Reader "into" SM or have it go there
automatically ?



What about the "PDF reader in Javascript" as a replacement for Adobe Reader?

I found this from the Mozilla PDF.js web page:

"PDF.js is a Portable Document Format (PDF) viewer that is built with HTML5.

PDF.js is community-driven and supported by Mozilla Labs. Our goal is to 
create a general-purpose, web standards-based platform for parsing and 
rendering PDFs."



Could PDF.js be a replacement for Adobe Reader?
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Re: Full Screen Unavailable on YouTube Videos

[Paul Bergsagel]

DoctorBill wrote:

My 30 year old Garage door Tension Spring Broke and I was trying to
watch YouTube Videos about repairing same.

I cannot get the Full Screen function to work - I get a window that
talks about "Permissions" on FireFox.

I tried looking in PREFERENCES for this permission thing, but can't find
it.

Can anyone help me to overcome the Full Screen restriction ?   Using SM
2.33.1

Never had this problem with a previous SM version.

DoctorBill
The issue with full screen and YouTube has been discussed and various 
solutions suggested in an earlier thread here. Search for "full screen".

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.38 released OS X

[Paul Bergsagel]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.38!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.38, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.38 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.38/
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.38/


Thanks to all the developers. I have used version 2.38 for a few minutes 
and all seems good!


Thank you.
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Re: Fw: Bug on V.2.35

[Paul Bergsagel]

Franky Tahiti wrote:


 - Forwarded Message -
   From: Franky Tahiti 
  To: "support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org" 

  Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:38 AM
  Subject: Bug on V.2.35

Hello from ThailandI don't know how you call that in english (I am french 
journalist retired)but after download the new version 2.35, I lose the three 
buttons left up
can't reduce the window, can't quit application…How to do ?
Thanks "in advance" !!!
Franky




Hi. There is a bug in SeaMonkey V.2.35 on OSX where the three round 
buttons (red,yellow, green) in the upper left side of the window. The 
developers know about this bug.


If, you are using OSX and the Dock is visible you can right-click of the 
SeaMonkey icon in the dock where you will find an option to quit SeaMonkey.


About resizing the windows-> I do not know how to do this without the 
three buttons.

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