Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2019-01-09 Thread Allen
Richmond wrote: Ant wrote: https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/12/19/updating-everyone/ I wouldn't mind if there were an advert in some of the blank space in the U.I. Just posting this I see much blank space to the right of the button icons at the top. Maybe it would be possible to find a

Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2019-01-03 Thread Richmond
Ant wrote: > https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/12/19/updating-everyone/ I wouldn't mind if there were an advert in some of the blank space in the U.I. Just posting this I see much blank space to the right of the button icons at the top. Maybe it would be possible to find a generous sponsor.

Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2018-12-27 Thread Edmund Wong
Gunther Nikl wrote: >> I'm not sure.  Will need to ping someone at Mozilla as the blog is >> hosted by Mozilla (for now). > > Thank you for considering my inquiry. Its not that important, but still > would > be nice. However, if the blog is hosted by Mozilla then I am sceptical that > they are

Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2018-12-27 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/26/2018 02:55 PM, Jonathan Wilson wrote: Pretty much the only site I visit on a semi-regular basis that is unusable in SeaMonkey is a site that doesn't work because it needs the DRM plugins for media. (its a catch-up site for a TV network) There is only one site that I use regularly

Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2018-12-26 Thread Jonathan Wilson
Pretty much the only site I visit on a semi-regular basis that is unusable in SeaMonkey is a site that doesn't work because it needs the DRM plugins for media. (its a catch-up site for a TV network) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list

Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2018-12-26 Thread Steve Dunn
On 2018-12-24 20:02, Ray_Net wrote: I totally agree with you, but do you think that a group of volunteers will be able to take this big step? It doesn't sound promising, does it? But then again, I thought something similar when SeaMonkey 1.x kept dragging on with nothing but

Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2018-12-24 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey
On 12/24/2018 5:17 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/23/2018 06:12 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:  > In any case, I think it would be better to spend effort into migration to  > something future oriented, even if it means to lose loved features or  > functionality, than to spend the effort in

Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2018-12-24 Thread Ray_Net
Steve Dunn wrote on 24-12-18 16:19: On 2018-12-23 19:04, Nuno Silva wrote: On 2018-12-22, user@domain.invalid wrote: [...]  Because without an up to date engine Seamonkey will not be able to appeal to new users and long time users will slowly move on as well. I.e. in my optinion Seamonkey

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2018-12-24 Thread Hawker
On 12/18/2018 8:13 PM, Ant wrote: https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/12/19/updating-everyone/ Sigh. Handwriting on the wall. Like many SM users I go back to Netscape 2.x. SM feels like home. It is comfortable, works for me and has most of the features I want. FF has become a

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2018-12-24 Thread Steve Dunn
On 2018-12-23 19:04, Nuno Silva wrote: On 2018-12-22, user@domain.invalid wrote: [...] Because without an up to date engine Seamonkey will not be able to appeal to new users and long time users will slowly move on as well. I.e. in my optinion Seamonkey would not have a future without an

Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2018-12-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/23/2018 06:12 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: > In any case, I think it would be better to spend effort into migration to > something future oriented, even if it means to lose loved features or > functionality, than to spend the effort in keeping something outdated alive. Personally

Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2018-12-23 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2018-12-22, user@domain.invalid wrote: > First of all, as a Seamonkey user from day one I have to say a big > thanks to all the the people involved in keeping this project alive > and providing such a fantastic web suite for so many years! Your work > is really appreciated and I think most

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2018-12-23 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
> In any case, I think it would be better to spend effort into migration to > something future oriented, even if it means to lose loved features or > functionality, than to spend the effort in keeping something outdated alive. Personally my heart isn't into this. Even while paving the way to

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2018-12-22 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey
Ditto. On 12/22/2018 3:55 PM, user@domain.invalid wrote: First of all, as a Seamonkey user from day one I have to say a big thanks to all the the people involved in keeping this project alive and providing such a fantastic web suite for so many years! Your work is really appreciated and I

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2018-12-22 Thread user
First of all, as a Seamonkey user from day one I have to say a big thanks to all the the people involved in keeping this project alive and providing such a fantastic web suite for so many years! Your work is really appreciated and I think most users do fully understand how much of your time

Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2018-12-22 Thread Gunther Nikl
Am 21.12.2018, 05:14 Uhr, schrieb Edmund Wong : Gunther Nikl wrote: Edmund Wong wrote: https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/12/19/updating-everyone/ (Slightly) OT but is it possible to offer the blog also with TLSv1 using ECC ciphers (ecdhe_ecdsa_aes)? The main site of

Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2018-12-20 Thread Edmund Wong
Gunther Nikl wrote: > Edmund Wong wrote: https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/12/19/updating-everyone/ > > (Slightly) OT but is it possible to offer the blog also with TLSv1 using > ECC ciphers (ecdhe_ecdsa_aes)? The main site of seamonkey-project.org is > accessible with TLSv1. > >

Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2018-12-20 Thread Gunther Nikl
Edmund Wong wrote: >>> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/12/19/updating-everyone/ (Slightly) OT but is it possible to offer the blog also with TLSv1 using ECC ciphers (ecdhe_ecdsa_aes)? The main site of seamonkey-project.org is accessible with TLSv1. Thanks, Gunther

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2018-12-19 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
webp and av1 wouldn't be a problem. Can be backported even to 2.53 which is already beyond ESR60 in some places (TLS 1.3 and a few smaller things). WebVR is something we might talk again about in 10 years. Webrender is still work in progress and will probably crash more than work with older

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2018-12-19 Thread Steve Dunn
On 2018-12-18 20:13, Ant wrote: https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/12/19/updating-everyone/ Thank you to everyone who has been working on this project. I understand that it's a huge task and the pay sucks :-) and I really do appreciate it. For what it's worth, here's my opinion on

Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2018-12-19 Thread WaltS48
On 12/19/18 12:22 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Ant wrote on 19-12-18 02:13: https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/12/19/updating-everyone/ IMHO It looks like that it is the end of life of SeaMonkey. I think that I have understood that SeaMonkey will never use web extensions  ... I hope that I am

Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2018-12-19 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
This is not true. 2.57 based on ESR60 will either support them or not appear at all. It will support classic extensions too but because of removals from Gecko a lot will need to be adapted. Same for TB 60 right now. After 2.57 it is all in the air. We could follow Firefox and become a second

Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2018-12-19 Thread Ray_Net
Ant wrote on 19-12-18 02:13: https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/12/19/updating-everyone/ IMHO It looks like that it is the end of life of SeaMonkey. I think that I have understood that SeaMonkey will never use web extensions  ... I hope that I am wrong...

Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2018-12-19 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/19/2018 4:44 AM, Jonathan Wilson wrote: > I for one intend to continue using Sea Monkey as long as it remains > possible to do so. > > If I wasn't busy with a billion other things, I would even find a way to > contribute to the project somehow and make good use of my C++ skills. > I

Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2018-12-19 Thread Jonathan Wilson
I for one intend to continue using Sea Monkey as long as it remains possible to do so. If I wasn't busy with a billion other things, I would even find a way to contribute to the project somehow and make good use of my C++ skills. ___

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2018-12-19 Thread Daniel
Edmund Wong wrote on 19/12/2018 7:37 PM: Daniel wrote: Ant wrote on 19/12/2018 12:13 PM: https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/12/19/updating-everyone/ Thanks for the link, Ant. And EWong and Co, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for all your past efforts. As Alex said on the blog ...

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2018-12-19 Thread Luis Carlos González Moráles
    Edmund Wong wrote: > Daniel wrote: >> Ant wrote on 19/12/2018 12:13 PM: >>> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/12/19/updating-everyone/ >> Thanks for the link, Ant. >> >> And EWong and Co, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for all your past >> efforts. >> >> As Alex said on the blog ... >>

Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2018-12-19 Thread Edmund Wong
Daniel wrote: > Ant wrote on 19/12/2018 12:13 PM: >> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/12/19/updating-everyone/ > > Thanks for the link, Ant. > > And EWong and Co, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for all your past > efforts. > > As Alex said on the blog ... > Quote > I keep hope for this

Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2018-12-18 Thread Daniel
Ant wrote on 19/12/2018 12:13 PM: https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/12/19/updating-everyone/ Thanks for the link, Ant. And EWong and Co, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for all your past efforts. As Alex said on the blog ... Quote I keep hope for this project, and trust the SeaMonkey

"Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2018-12-18 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/12/19/updating-everyone/ -- "God is a mean kid sitting on an ant-hill with a magnifying glass, and I'm the ant." --Bruce Nolan (Bruce Almighty movie) Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.