Re: Moving SM to a New PC/New OS

2015-01-05 Thread Jonathan N. Little

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/4/2015 12:38 PM, HenriK wrote:

I need to move my SM v.2.30 files from an XP system to a newer Win 7 system.
What is the easiest way to do this?

It seems to me that if I do a new install of SM v.2.30 on the Win 7 machine, it
seems logical I could then copy the existing v.2.30 files on my XP machine and
paste them over the newly-installed v.2.30 files on the Win7 machine.

Is this approach likely to work?  Is there some better (and hopefully easier) to
accomplish such a move?  I don't want to change anything about how my SM v.2.30
is working, just move it.

Thanks, in advance, for any and all advice, guidance, and/or suggestions.



First, make a clean install of SeaMonkey on the new PC.

It is most simple if your profile resides at the equivalent place on
your new PC that they were on the old PC.  For example, I have a profile
named David (my name) at D:\Mozilla profiles\SeaMonkey\David.  (Note
that I eliminated the random part of the folder name at the end of the
path.)  On a new PC -- same or different version of Windows -- I would
move this to the same path.

Finally, I would locate the file profiles.ini for SeaMonkey on the new
PC.  In Windows 7, this is something like
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey, where  for me
is David.  Edit that file to point to your new profile.  For me, the
file profiles.ini begins:

[General]
StartWithLastProfile=0

[Profile0]
Name=David
IsRelative=0
Path=D:\Mozilla profiles\SeaMonkey\David
Default=1



I don't recall mozilla ever using Windows backslash, always forward so I 
think that should be:


D:/Mozilla profiles/SeaMonkey/David

and you might have to quote if there is a space in the path:

D:/Mozilla profiles/SeaMonkey/David

I would advise NOT using spaces in you path:

Path=D:/Mozilla/SeaMonkey/Profiles/David



The IsRelative=0 indicates that the Path term is a complete path and not
a path relative to where the file profiles.ini resides.  I have three
other profiles, each for a special purpose.  For those extra profiles,
there is [Profile1], [Profile2], and [Profile3]; they have Default=0.

I am very glad I did my profiles this way.  When I had to reinstall
Windows 7 because malware blocked me from even booting, my profiles were
not touched.  I did not lose any bookmarks, history, or (for
Thunderbird) E-mails.  Also, my C-disc is not very large.  My scheme
moves the profiles to a separate hard drive that is much larger.



You do not backup? You could not access the drive with another system?

Unfortunately stupid drive letters have unnecessarily complicated 
Windows. Much prefer Linux filesystem where data can be moved another 
partition, another drive, another system, or even span all of the above 
without impacting your installation at all.


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Re: Moving SM to a New PC/New OS

2015-01-05 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/5/2015 6:59 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
 I previously wrote:

 First, make a clean install of SeaMonkey on the new PC.

 It is most simple if your profile resides at the equivalent place on
 your new PC that they were on the old PC.  For example, I have a profile
 named David (my name) at D:\Mozilla profiles\SeaMonkey\David.  (Note
 that I eliminated the random part of the folder name at the end of the
 path.)  On a new PC -- same or different version of Windows -- I would
 move this to the same path.

 Finally, I would locate the file profiles.ini for SeaMonkey on the new
 PC.  In Windows 7, this is something like
 C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey, where  for me
 is David.  Edit that file to point to your new profile.  For me, the
 file profiles.ini begins:

  [General]
  StartWithLastProfile=0

  [Profile0]
  Name=David
  IsRelative=0
  Path=D:\Mozilla profiles\SeaMonkey\David
  Default=1
 
 
 I don't recall mozilla ever using Windows backslash, always forward so I 
 think that should be:
 
 D:/Mozilla profiles/SeaMonkey/David
 
 and you might have to quote if there is a space in the path:
 
 D:/Mozilla profiles/SeaMonkey/David
 
 I would advise NOT using spaces in you path:
 
 Path=D:/Mozilla/SeaMonkey/Profiles/David

A few years ago, I decided that I wanted my profiles on the hard drive
that I used for data, in an esily reached folder that contained both
SeaMonkey and Thunderbird profiles.  I edited the content of
profiles.ini for SeaMonkey and for Thunderbird, using the format of
paths that already existed there but just changing where they pointed.
This involved \ instead of /, and it did not involve quoting where there
were blanks.  The profiles.ini files I had to leave where they were.
Everything worked okay and still works.

I copied part of the current content of my SeaMonkey profiles.ini for my
reply quoted above.


 The IsRelative=0 indicates that the Path term is a complete path and not
 a path relative to where the file profiles.ini resides.  I have three
 other profiles, each for a special purpose.  For those extra profiles,
 there is [Profile1], [Profile2], and [Profile3]; they have Default=0.

 I am very glad I did my profiles this way.  When I had to reinstall
 Windows 7 because malware blocked me from even booting, my profiles were
 not touched.  I did not lose any bookmarks, history, or (for
 Thunderbird) E-mails.  Also, my C-disc is not very large.  My scheme
 moves the profiles to a separate hard drive that is much larger.

 
 You do not backup? You could not access the drive with another system?

Of course I backup.  I do it weekly.  But if I cannot boot, I cannot
restore from a backup.  I was doing backups by folders, not by
partitions.  Now I backup by partitions.

 Unfortunately stupid drive letters have unnecessarily complicated 
 Windows. Much prefer Linux filesystem where data can be moved another 
 partition, another drive, another system, or even span all of the above 
 without impacting your installation at all.
 

I used UNIX well before I ever saw a PC with Windows, both UNIX C and
UNIX Korn.  I really like them and still code server-side scripts for my
Web site in UNIX.  However, many of the applications that I like only
exist for Windows.

-- 
David E. Ross

I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can
be used when autocomplete=off.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238.
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Re: Moving SM to a New PC/New OS

2015-01-05 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/5/2015 6:59 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
 I previously wrote:

 First, make a clean install of SeaMonkey on the new PC.

 It is most simple if your profile resides at the equivalent place on
 your new PC that they were on the old PC.  For example, I have a profile
 named David (my name) at D:\Mozilla profiles\SeaMonkey\David.  (Note
 that I eliminated the random part of the folder name at the end of the
 path.)  On a new PC -- same or different version of Windows -- I would
 move this to the same path.

 Finally, I would locate the file profiles.ini for SeaMonkey on the new
 PC.  In Windows 7, this is something like
 C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey, where  for me
 is David.  Edit that file to point to your new profile.  For me, the
 file profiles.ini begins:

  [General]
  StartWithLastProfile=0

  [Profile0]
  Name=David
  IsRelative=0
  Path=D:\Mozilla profiles\SeaMonkey\David
  Default=1
 
 
 I don't recall mozilla ever using Windows backslash, always forward so I 
 think that should be:
 
 D:/Mozilla profiles/SeaMonkey/David
 
 and you might have to quote if there is a space in the path:
 
 D:/Mozilla profiles/SeaMonkey/David
 
 I would advise NOT using spaces in you path:
 
 Path=D:/Mozilla/SeaMonkey/Profiles/David

A few years ago, I decided that I wanted my profiles on the hard drive
that I used for data, in an esily reached folder that contained both
SeaMonkey and Thunderbird profiles.  I edited the content of
profiles.ini for SeaMonkey and for Thunderbird, using the format of
paths that already existed there but just changing where they pointed.
This involved \ instead of /, and it did not involve quoting where there
were blanks.  The profiles.ini files I had to leave where they were.
Everything worked okay and still works.

I copied part of the current content of my SeaMonkey profiles.ini for my
reply quoted above.


 The IsRelative=0 indicates that the Path term is a complete path and not
 a path relative to where the file profiles.ini resides.  I have three
 other profiles, each for a special purpose.  For those extra profiles,
 there is [Profile1], [Profile2], and [Profile3]; they have Default=0.

 I am very glad I did my profiles this way.  When I had to reinstall
 Windows 7 because malware blocked me from even booting, my profiles were
 not touched.  I did not lose any bookmarks, history, or (for
 Thunderbird) E-mails.  Also, my C-disc is not very large.  My scheme
 moves the profiles to a separate hard drive that is much larger.

 
 You do not backup? You could not access the drive with another system?

Of course I backup.  I do it weekly.  But if I cannot boot, I cannot
restore from a backup.  I was doing backups by folders, not by
partitions.  Now I backup by partitions.

 Unfortunately stupid drive letters have unnecessarily complicated 
 Windows. Much prefer Linux filesystem where data can be moved another 
 partition, another drive, another system, or even span all of the above 
 without impacting your installation at all.
 

I used UNIX well before I ever saw a PC with Windows, both UNIX C and
UNIX Korn.  I really like them and still code server-side scripts for my
Web site in UNIX.  However, many of the applications that I like only
exist for Windows.

-- 
David E. Ross

I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can
be used when autocomplete=off.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238.
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Re: Moving SM to a New PC/New OS

2015-01-05 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/5/2015 9:33 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote on 1/5/2015 11:44 AM:
 On 1/5/2015 6:59 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
 I previously wrote:

 First, make a clean install of SeaMonkey on the new PC.

 It is most simple if your profile resides at the equivalent place on
 your new PC that they were on the old PC.  For example, I have a profile
 named David (my name) at D:\Mozilla profiles\SeaMonkey\David.  (Note
 that I eliminated the random part of the folder name at the end of the
 path.)  On a new PC -- same or different version of Windows -- I would
 move this to the same path.

 Finally, I would locate the file profiles.ini for SeaMonkey on the new
 PC.  In Windows 7, this is something like
 C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey, where  for me
 is David.  Edit that file to point to your new profile.  For me, the
 file profiles.ini begins:

[General]
StartWithLastProfile=0

[Profile0]
Name=David
IsRelative=0
Path=D:\Mozilla profiles\SeaMonkey\David
Default=1


 I don't recall mozilla ever using Windows backslash, always forward so I
 think that should be:

 D:/Mozilla profiles/SeaMonkey/David

 and you might have to quote if there is a space in the path:

 D:/Mozilla profiles/SeaMonkey/David

 I would advise NOT using spaces in you path:

 Path=D:/Mozilla/SeaMonkey/Profiles/David

 A few years ago, I decided that I wanted my profiles on the hard drive
 that I used for data, in an esily reached folder that contained both
 SeaMonkey and Thunderbird profiles.  I edited the content of
 profiles.ini for SeaMonkey and for Thunderbird, using the format of
 paths that already existed there but just changing where they pointed.
 This involved \ instead of /, and it did not involve quoting where there
 were blanks.  The profiles.ini files I had to leave where they were.
 Everything worked okay and still works.

 I copied part of the current content of my SeaMonkey profiles.ini for my
 reply quoted above.


 The IsRelative=0 indicates that the Path term is a complete path and not
 a path relative to where the file profiles.ini resides.  I have three
 other profiles, each for a special purpose.  For those extra profiles,
 there is [Profile1], [Profile2], and [Profile3]; they have Default=0.

 I am very glad I did my profiles this way.  When I had to reinstall
 Windows 7 because malware blocked me from even booting, my profiles were
 not touched.  I did not lose any bookmarks, history, or (for
 Thunderbird) E-mails.  Also, my C-disc is not very large.  My scheme
 moves the profiles to a separate hard drive that is much larger.


 You do not backup? You could not access the drive with another system?

 Of course I backup.  I do it weekly.  But if I cannot boot, I cannot
 restore from a backup.  I was doing backups by folders, not by
 partitions.  Now I backup by partitions.

 
 Most good backup programs allow you to create a bootable CD/DVD to boot 
 from and restore a partition backup. Mine does and I've used it.
 
 

I have two physical hard drives.  A solid-state drive (SSD) contains
partitions C and J.  C has Windows and those applications that insist on
being installed on a C-disc; J has all the other applications.  A
spinner (almost 10 times the capacity of the SSD) has partitions D and
F.  D contains all my data; F is a recovery partition.

Yes, I now have a bootable CD with my backup application (Acronis True
Image).  That is why I now backup my C and J partitions, each
separately.  I still backup my D partition by folders, to separate
photos from other data.

-- 
David E. Ross

I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can
be used when autocomplete=off.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238.
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Moving SM to a New PC/New OS

2015-01-04 Thread HenriK
I need to move my SM v.2.30 files from an XP system to a newer Win 7 system. 
What is the easiest way to do this?


It seems to me that if I do a new install of SM v.2.30 on the Win 7 machine, it 
seems logical I could then copy the existing v.2.30 files on my XP machine and 
paste them over the newly-installed v.2.30 files on the Win7 machine.


Is this approach likely to work?  Is there some better (and hopefully easier) to 
accomplish such a move?  I don't want to change anything about how my SM v.2.30 
is working, just move it.


Thanks, in advance, for any and all advice, guidance, and/or suggestions.
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Re: Moving SM to a New PC/New OS

2015-01-04 Thread rjkrjk

did this last year
using Mozbackup... backed up everything to  a thumb drive
the restored it all to the new computer/OS
didnt tel it where or how or anything,   just let it go ... and it worked just 
great




HenriK wrote on 1/4/2015 3:38 PM:

I need to move my SM v.2.30 files from an XP system to a newer Win 7 system. 
What is the
easiest way to do this?

It seems to me that if I do a new install of SM v.2.30 on the Win 7 machine, it 
seems
logical I could then copy the existing v.2.30 files on my XP machine and paste 
them over the
newly-installed v.2.30 files on the Win7 machine.

Is this approach likely to work?  Is there some better (and hopefully easier) 
to accomplish
such a move?  I don't want to change anything about how my SM v.2.30 is 
working, just move it.

Thanks, in advance, for any and all advice, guidance, and/or suggestions.

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Re: Moving SM to a New PC/New OS

2015-01-04 Thread Jonathan N. Little

HenriK wrote:

I need to move my SM v.2.30 files from an XP system to a newer Win 7
system. What is the easiest way to do this?

It seems to me that if I do a new install of SM v.2.30 on the Win 7
machine, it seems logical I could then copy the existing v.2.30 files on
my XP machine and paste them over the newly-installed v.2.30 files on
the Win7 machine.

Is this approach likely to work?


Yes I have moved profile on several systems this way and even from 
Windows to Linux.


On XP get your profile copy profile folder to some media

C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Application 
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\SOME_SALT.default


Note the folder name the SALT will be something 8 random characters like
k54g9kjh.default

On Windows 7 type %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles in the search box 
so Explorer will open in the hidden folder


Copy your XP profile there


Move up one directory, i.e., %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\ and open 
profile.ini in notepad



[General]
StartWithLastProfile=1

[Profile0]
Name=default
IsRelative=1
; comment out the initial Windows 7 installed profile with a ;
;Path=Profiles/original.default
; add entry with name of the Windows XP profile you just copied
Path=Profiles/k54g9kjh.default


Save and start SeaMonkey and your bookmarks, passwords, email and all 
with be there.




Is there some better (and hopefully
easier) to accomplish such a move?  I don't want to change anything
about how my SM v.2.30 is working, just move it.

Thanks, in advance, for any and all advice, guidance, and/or suggestions.



They have some backup utilities but I have never found them to be needed 
above works just fine.



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Re: Moving SM to a New PC/New OS

2015-01-04 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/4/2015 12:38 PM, HenriK wrote:
 I need to move my SM v.2.30 files from an XP system to a newer Win 7 system. 
 What is the easiest way to do this?
 
 It seems to me that if I do a new install of SM v.2.30 on the Win 7 machine, 
 it 
 seems logical I could then copy the existing v.2.30 files on my XP machine 
 and 
 paste them over the newly-installed v.2.30 files on the Win7 machine.
 
 Is this approach likely to work?  Is there some better (and hopefully easier) 
 to 
 accomplish such a move?  I don't want to change anything about how my SM 
 v.2.30 
 is working, just move it.
 
 Thanks, in advance, for any and all advice, guidance, and/or suggestions.
 

First, make a clean install of SeaMonkey on the new PC.

It is most simple if your profile resides at the equivalent place on
your new PC that they were on the old PC.  For example, I have a profile
named David (my name) at D:\Mozilla profiles\SeaMonkey\David.  (Note
that I eliminated the random part of the folder name at the end of the
path.)  On a new PC -- same or different version of Windows -- I would
move this to the same path.

Finally, I would locate the file profiles.ini for SeaMonkey on the new
PC.  In Windows 7, this is something like
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey, where  for me
is David.  Edit that file to point to your new profile.  For me, the
file profiles.ini begins:

[General]
StartWithLastProfile=0

[Profile0]
Name=David
IsRelative=0
Path=D:\Mozilla profiles\SeaMonkey\David
Default=1

The IsRelative=0 indicates that the Path term is a complete path and not
a path relative to where the file profiles.ini resides.  I have three
other profiles, each for a special purpose.  For those extra profiles,
there is [Profile1], [Profile2], and [Profile3]; they have Default=0.

I am very glad I did my profiles this way.  When I had to reinstall
Windows 7 because malware blocked me from even booting, my profiles were
not touched.  I did not lose any bookmarks, history, or (for
Thunderbird) E-mails.  Also, my C-disc is not very large.  My scheme
moves the profiles to a separate hard drive that is much larger.

-- 
David E. Ross

I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can
be used when autocomplete=off.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238.
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Re: Moving SM to a New PC/New OS

2015-01-04 Thread Daniel

On 05/01/15 12:09, rjkrjk wrote:

did this last year
using Mozbackup... backed up everything to  a thumb drive
the restored it all to the new computer/OS
didnt tel it where or how or anything,   just let it go ... and it
worked just great




HenriK wrote on 1/4/2015 3:38 PM:

I need to move my SM v.2.30 files from an XP system to a newer Win 7
system. What is the
easiest way to do this?

It seems to me that if I do a new install of SM v.2.30 on the Win 7
machine, it seems
logical I could then copy the existing v.2.30 files on my XP machine
and paste them over the
newly-installed v.2.30 files on the Win7 machine.

Is this approach likely to work?  Is there some better (and hopefully
easier) to accomplish
such a move?  I don't want to change anything about how my SM v.2.30
is working, just move it.

Thanks, in advance, for any and all advice, guidance, and/or suggestions.


Mozbackup would probably be my suggestion as well, but I would think you 
would first have to do a complete install (including Mail  News profile 
set-up) and then let Mozbackup copy the files from your WinXP profile on 
the old system to the Win7 system.


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225525

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