Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-23 Thread Larry S.
Ray_Net wrote: Larry S. wrote on 23/03/2016 14:17: Larry S. wrote: Once upon a time there was discussion here about Password Manager having trouble when the log-in process asked for User ID, and then in a separate screen asked for the password. I ignored it at the time since I didn't have that

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-23 Thread Ray_Net
Larry S. wrote on 23/03/2016 14:17: Larry S. wrote: Once upon a time there was discussion here about Password Manager having trouble when the log-in process asked for User ID, and then in a separate screen asked for the password. I ignored it at the time since I didn't have that problem; now I

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-23 Thread Larry S.
Larry S. wrote: Once upon a time there was discussion here about Password Manager having trouble when the log-in process asked for User ID, and then in a separate screen asked for the password. I ignored it at the time since I didn't have that problem; now I do. Any advice? Anyone remember the

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-20 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne
NFN Smith wrote: mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: I'm beginning to suspect that some web developers are starting to use two-page login forms deliberately to prevent their users from using password managers on the assumption they won't be secure, rather than leaving it up to their

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-19 Thread gcarinato
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Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-19 Thread NFN Smith
David E. Ross wrote: Enabling the use of a master password causes the Password Manager's database to be encrypted. The master password itself is not stored on the computer and should exist only in the user's head. Yep. And I think there's a lot of developers that don't have enough

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-19 Thread NFN Smith
mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: I'm beginning to suspect that some web developers are starting to use two-page login forms deliberately to prevent their users from using password managers on the assumption they won't be secure, rather than leaving it up to their users to ensure they

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-19 Thread »Q«
In , NFN Smith wrote: > However, I think developers are more focused on defending against > script-based authentication (presumed to be malicious). By requiring > multiple user inputs, then it's far more difficult for

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-19 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
NFN Smith wrote: mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Some of it may be a way of defending against passwords "remembered" (whether in the browser, as with Mozilla, or in the way that IE keeps stuff in the Windows registry). Given the antipathy of some developers towards Mozilla

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-19 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: All this means that, as David mentioned, the password manager has no way to know that the password requested on the second page is in any way related to the username requested

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-19 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/18/2016 10:15 AM, NFN Smith wrote: > > I think this is particularly true with Internet Explorer -- I've always > found Microsoft's methodologies of "remembering" passwords via the > registry to be sloppy, and that they're far too aggressive about > offering to remember, and where it's too

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-19 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne
Daniel wrote: On 19/03/2016 8:21 AM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: All this means that, as David mentioned, the password manager has

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-19 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: All this means that, as David mentioned, the password manager has no way to know that the password requested on the second page is in any way related to the username requested on the first page. It may be obvious to you that

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-19 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/16/2016 8:45 PM, Larry S. wrote: > David E. Ross wrote: >> On 3/16/2016 5:17 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >>> mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: >>> All this means that, as David mentioned, the password manager has no way to know that the password requested on the second

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-19 Thread Ed Mullen
On 3/16/2016 12:47 PM, Larry S.'s fingers rattled off: David E. Ross wrote: On 3/15/2016 10:54 AM, Larry S. wrote: Once upon a time there was discussion here about Password Manager having trouble when the log-in process asked for User ID, and then in a separate screen asked for the password. I

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-19 Thread Daniel
On 19/03/2016 8:21 AM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: All this means that, as David mentioned, the password manager has no way to know

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-19 Thread Larry S.
David E. Ross wrote: On 3/15/2016 10:54 AM, Larry S. wrote: Once upon a time there was discussion here about Password Manager having trouble when the log-in process asked for User ID, and then in a separate screen asked for the password. I ignored it at the time since I didn't have that

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-19 Thread NFN Smith
mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Some of it may be a way of defending against passwords "remembered" (whether in the browser, as with Mozilla, or in the way that IE keeps stuff in the Windows registry). Given the antipathy of some developers towards Mozilla (including the long-time

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-19 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne
Larry S. wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 3/15/2016 10:54 AM, Larry S. wrote: Once upon a time there was discussion here about Password Manager having trouble when the log-in process asked for User ID, and then in a separate screen asked for the password. I ignored it at the time since I didn't

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-19 Thread Larry S.
NFN Smith wrote: mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: I'm beginning to suspect that some web developers are starting to use two-page login forms deliberately to prevent their users from using password managers on the assumption they won't be secure, rather than leaving it up to their

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-18 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: All this means that, as David mentioned, the password manager has no way to know that the password requested on the second page is in any way related to the username requested on the first page. It may be obvious to you that you're being asked for a

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-18 Thread Larry S.
Ed Mullen wrote: On 3/16/2016 12:47 PM, Larry S.'s fingers rattled off: David E. Ross wrote: On 3/15/2016 10:54 AM, Larry S. wrote: Once upon a time there was discussion here about Password Manager having trouble when the log-in process asked for User ID, and then in a separate screen asked

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-18 Thread Larry S.
NFN Smith wrote: mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Some of it may be a way of defending against passwords "remembered" (whether in the browser, as with Mozilla, or in the way that IE keeps stuff in the Windows registry). Given the antipathy of some developers towards Mozilla

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-18 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: All this means that, as David mentioned, the password manager has no way to know that the password requested on the second page is in any way related

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-18 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/16/2016 5:17 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: > >> All this means that, as David mentioned, the password manager has no >> way to know that the password requested on the second page is in any >> way related to the username requested on the first

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-18 Thread Larry S.
David E. Ross wrote: On 3/16/2016 5:17 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: All this means that, as David mentioned, the password manager has no way to know that the password requested on the second page is in any way related to the username requested on

Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-15 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/15/2016 10:54 AM, Larry S. wrote: > Once upon a time there was discussion here about Password Manager having > trouble when the log-in process asked for User ID, and then in a > separate screen asked for the password. I ignored it at the time since I > didn't have that problem; now I do. >

Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-15 Thread Larry S.
Once upon a time there was discussion here about Password Manager having trouble when the log-in process asked for User ID, and then in a separate screen asked for the password. I ignored it at the time since I didn't have that problem; now I do. Any advice? Anyone remember the answer (if