Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[jcteyssier]

Ray_Net a écrit :

jcteyssier wrote on 01-12-20 18:55:

Ray_Net a écrit :

WaltS48 wrote on 30-11-20 02:34:

On 11/25/20 12:02 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Hello,

Going to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 



shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting 
me to be connected to my bank.


This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


Why are you using what appears to be a page for cell phone?

/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx


The bank had changed their site making SM unusuable.
so under Chrome the bank say: Go to: https://www.belfius.be/
this will not permit me to connect - so they say click on any option, 
I choiced "mobile" and then
I go to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 


where I can see the connection red button

BUT they have, just now, corrected their site and now going(with 
Chrome) to https://www.belfius.be/
redirect me immediately to 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx where I can see the button.

without passing by another step.

So now with SM:
https://www.belfius.be/ after accepting cookies I am redirected to
https://www.belfius.be/about-us/en.html
where  I can click on retail
This action bring me to https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx 
where I did not see the button.

Therefore I still be unable to connect.

https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx
I have a button "Demander"
I clic here, then i get the button "Deveni client" and an other one 
"Se connecter"
"Se connecter" brings me to a login popup proposing several ways to 
connect (itsme, with and without usb device...)
Seamokey 2.53.1 FR win 10 64 bt with ublock origin active; all seem to 
work for me (but have no account so cna not try further)
Thanks for testing - going further is not needed. I just did not have 
"Devenir client" nor "Se connecter"

It's very strange that your SM 2.53.1 is working and not my SM 2.53.3

Sorry, i make a mistake: it is 2.53.5.1
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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Ray_Net]

David E. Ross wrote on 02-12-20 02:48:

On 12/1/2020 2:53 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 01-12-20 11:55:

On 30/11/2020 23:40, Ray_Net wrote:

...>
...
This action bring me to https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx
where I did not see the button.
Therefore I still be unable to connect.

If you have any response from the company's technical support, ask
them to serve polyfills suitable for Firefox 56. SeaMonkey claims
Gecko 60 but this is not entirely true.


The bank compagny says: Abandon SM ans use Chrome or Firefox  they
don't consider SM as a supported browser


As I replied earlier, that is what the credit union where I have had an
account for 50+ years said.  Instead, I am partway through the process
of abandoning the credit union.

In the meantime, I have accounts at another credit union (about 40
years), a commercial bank (over a decade), and a major mutual fund group
(25 years).  I can still do transactions in those accounts using
SeaMonkey 2.49.5 under Windows 7.  Today, I mailed letters to each of
those three, alerting them to the need to be backwards compatible as
they update their servers so that depositors and investors can continue
to use their legacy systems.


As I said before, I have a similar problem with my second bank.
Must I test all banks in belgium to find one where SM is ok ?

I just say that SM does not accept the future.
When SM will support the current situation, it's too late (and the 
situation have changed...

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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[David E. Ross]

On 12/1/2020 2:53 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
> Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 01-12-20 11:55:
>> On 30/11/2020 23:40, Ray_Net wrote:
>>> ...>
>>> ...
>>> This action bring me to https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx 
>>> where I did not see the button.
>>> Therefore I still be unable to connect.
>>
>> If you have any response from the company's technical support, ask 
>> them to serve polyfills suitable for Firefox 56. SeaMonkey claims 
>> Gecko 60 but this is not entirely true.
>>
> The bank compagny says: Abandon SM ans use Chrome or Firefox  they 
> don't consider SM as a supported browser
> 

As I replied earlier, that is what the credit union where I have had an
account for 50+ years said.  Instead, I am partway through the process
of abandoning the credit union.

In the meantime, I have accounts at another credit union (about 40
years), a commercial bank (over a decade), and a major mutual fund group
(25 years).  I can still do transactions in those accounts using
SeaMonkey 2.49.5 under Windows 7.  Today, I mailed letters to each of
those three, alerting them to the need to be backwards compatible as
they update their servers so that depositors and investors can continue
to use their legacy systems.

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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Ray_Net]

jcteyssier wrote on 01-12-20 18:55:

Ray_Net a écrit :

WaltS48 wrote on 30-11-20 02:34:

On 11/25/20 12:02 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Hello,

Going to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 



shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting 
me to be connected to my bank.


This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


Why are you using what appears to be a page for cell phone?

/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx


The bank had changed their site making SM unusuable.
so under Chrome the bank say: Go to: https://www.belfius.be/
this will not permit me to connect - so they say click on any option, 
I choiced "mobile" and then
I go to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 


where I can see the connection red button

BUT they have, just now, corrected their site and now going(with 
Chrome) to https://www.belfius.be/
redirect me immediately to 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx where I can see the button.

without passing by another step.

So now with SM:
https://www.belfius.be/ after accepting cookies I am redirected to
https://www.belfius.be/about-us/en.html
where  I can click on retail
This action bring me to https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx 
where I did not see the button.

Therefore I still be unable to connect.

https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx
I have a button "Demander"
I clic here, then i get the button "Deveni client" and an other one 
"Se connecter"
"Se connecter" brings me to a login popup proposing several ways to 
connect (itsme, with and without usb device...)
Seamokey 2.53.1 FR win 10 64 bt with ublock origin active; all seem to 
work for me (but have no account so cna not try further)
Thanks for testing - going further is not needed. I just did not have 
"Devenir client" nor "Se connecter"

It's very strange that your SM 2.53.1 is working and not my SM 2.53.3
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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Ray_Net]

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 01-12-20 11:55:

On 30/11/2020 23:40, Ray_Net wrote:

...>
...
This action bring me to https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx 
where I did not see the button.

Therefore I still be unable to connect.


If you have any response from the company's technical support, ask 
them to serve polyfills suitable for Firefox 56. SeaMonkey claims 
Gecko 60 but this is not entirely true.


The bank compagny says: Abandon SM ans use Chrome or Firefox  they 
don't consider SM as a supported browser

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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 01/12/2020 21:44, Ant wrote:

...>
Isn't SeaMonkey using Gecko v57? If so, then why do they say v60?


(56) I believe the v60 in the UA is partly to pacify UA sniffers and 
partly reflects v60 features that have been back-ported.


/df

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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

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On 12/1/2020 2:55 AM, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 30/11/2020 23:40, Ray_Net wrote:

...>
...
This action bring me to https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx 
where I did not see the button.

Therefore I still be unable to connect.


If you have any response from the company's technical support, ask them 
to serve polyfills suitable for Firefox 56. SeaMonkey claims Gecko 60 
but this is not entirely true.


Isn't SeaMonkey using Gecko v57? If so, then why do they say v60?
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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

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Ray_Net a écrit :

WaltS48 wrote on 30-11-20 02:34:

On 11/25/20 12:02 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Hello,

Going to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 



shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me 
to be connected to my bank.


This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


Why are you using what appears to be a page for cell phone?

/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx


The bank had changed their site making SM unusuable.
so under Chrome the bank say: Go to: https://www.belfius.be/
this will not permit me to connect - so they say click on any option, I 
choiced "mobile" and then
I go to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 


where I can see the connection red button

BUT they have, just now, corrected their site and now going(with Chrome) 
to https://www.belfius.be/
redirect me immediately to https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx 
where I can see the button.

without passing by another step.

So now with SM:
https://www.belfius.be/ after accepting cookies I am redirected to
https://www.belfius.be/about-us/en.html
where  I can click on retail
This action bring me to https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx 
where I did not see the button.

Therefore I still be unable to connect.

https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx
I have a button "Demander"
I clic here, then i get the button "Deveni client" and an other one "Se 
connecter"
"Se connecter" brings me to a login popup proposing several ways to 
connect (itsme, with and without usb device...)
Seamokey 2.53.1 FR win 10 64 bt with ublock origin active; all seem to 
work for me (but have no account so cna not try further)


Jean-Charles
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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 30/11/2020 23:40, Ray_Net wrote:

...>
...
This action bring me to https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx 
where I did not see the button.

Therefore I still be unable to connect.


If you have any response from the company's technical support, ask them 
to serve polyfills suitable for Firefox 56. SeaMonkey claims Gecko 60 
but this is not entirely true.


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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Ray_Net]

WaltS48 wrote on 30-11-20 02:34:

On 11/25/20 12:02 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Hello,

Going to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 



shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me 
to be connected to my bank.


This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


Why are you using what appears to be a page for cell phone?

/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx


The bank had changed their site making SM unusuable.
so under Chrome the bank say: Go to: https://www.belfius.be/
this will not permit me to connect - so they say click on any option, I 
choiced "mobile" and then
I go to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx

where I can see the connection red button

BUT they have, just now, corrected their site and now going(with Chrome) 
to https://www.belfius.be/
redirect me immediately to https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx 
where I can see the button.

without passing by another step.

So now with SM:
https://www.belfius.be/ after accepting cookies I am redirected to
https://www.belfius.be/about-us/en.html
where  I can click on retail
This action bring me to https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx 
where I did not see the button.

Therefore I still be unable to connect.
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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

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meagain wrote on 30/11/20 09:14:

 Original Message 

Hello,

Going to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 



shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me 
to be connected to my bank.


This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/becoming-a-customer-360-coholder/index.aspx 



seems to show the red button, albeit in French, for my SM 2.53.5.1 on 
Win 10.


And even on my Linux 2.49.1!!
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Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

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On 11/25/20 12:02 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Hello,

Going to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 



shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me to 
be connected to my bank.


This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


Why are you using what appears to be a page for cell phone?

/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx

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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

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meagain wrote on 29/11/2020 23:14:

 Original Message 

Hello,

Going to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx

shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me to be 
connected to my bank.

This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/becoming-a-customer-360-coholder/index.aspx

seems to show the red button, albeit in French, for my SM 2.53.5.1 on Win 10.



Same here for SM 2.49.5, button shown normally.
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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[meagain]

 Original Message 

Hello,

Going to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 



shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me to 
be connected to my bank.


This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/becoming-a-customer-360-coholder/index.aspx

seems to show the red button, albeit in French, for my SM 2.53.5.1 on 
Win 10.

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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

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On 27/11/2020 23:58, Ray_Net wrote:

...>
This one now is also not working with SM: https://login.one.com/mail


They have a one-liner that redirects if your browser doesn't support JS 
modules, which requires FF 60. Quite difficult to bypass, but should 
work with SM 2.57, once that is working.


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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Ray_Net]

JAS wrote on 27-11-20 01:10:

Ray_Net wrote:

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 26-11-20 15:46:

On 26/11/2020 05:42, Daniel wrote:

.. Does it help if you make both "83.0"??


No, because as Lemuel posted before, the site assumes that the browser
offers a JavaScript interface that SM doesn't yet have, and doesn't 
send

shim code ("polyfill") to provide it.

A polyfill that works for GitHub seems to send belfius into endless 
recursion.


/df


This seems correct, because the website dit not test the UA string.
Anyway ... in what SM version "polyfill" will work ?
Can you install Firefox or maybe Chrome also portable from 
https://portableapps.com/ on a USB drive and run it from there when 
the need arises to use another browser. I have 
Edge,Chrome,Opera,Firefox and also Thunderbird installed on one and 
run them when I need to or just to test them out and have imported my 
bookmarks and setting on each.


JAS
Too late :-) :-) I have installed directly in my pc without trying the 
portable version :-)

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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Ray_Net]

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 27-11-20 20:47:

On 26/11/2020 16:13, Ray_Net wrote:

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 26-11-20 15:46:
...>
A polyfill that works for GitHub seems to send belfius into endless 
recursion.


Which is likely because it also wants to use the Shadow DOM feature, 
which is really too complicated to implement outside the browser core.



This seems correct, because the website dit not test the UA string.
Anyway ... in what SM version "polyfill" will work ?


The next significant SM browser upgrade (possibly the last) is being 
developed as 2.57 based on the Gecko engine used in Firefox 60 but 
Shadow DOM (and Custom Elements) appeared in 63. Those would have to 
be backported by the SM devs, so don't hold your breath.


/df

Thank you for those "details" .. IT seeme that more and more often I 
should use other browsers.

This one now is also not working with SM: https://login.one.com/mail
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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Ray_Net]

Yamo' wrote on 27-11-20 09:20:

Hi,

Ray_Net a tapoté le 26/11/2020 01:25:

I have bookmarked it and the result is the same.
Also for me, it looaded, but the top part of page is missing.
You should see in the upper right part a red button like this one:
**
* S'inscrire *
**
dit you see that button ?

No any button "s'inscrire" in pages...


What SM version did you use ? mine is 2.53.3

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0
SeaMonkey/2.53.5

May this website is only working in Belgium?


This site works everywhere ... You don't see the "S'inscrire" button, 
because SM did not work correctly with this site.

Try using Chrome or Firefox - ans you will see this login-button.
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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 26/11/2020 16:13, Ray_Net wrote:

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 26-11-20 15:46:
...>
A polyfill that works for GitHub seems to send belfius into endless 
recursion.


Which is likely because it also wants to use the Shadow DOM feature, 
which is really too complicated to implement outside the browser core.



This seems correct, because the website dit not test the UA string.
Anyway ... in what SM version "polyfill" will work ?


The next significant SM browser upgrade (possibly the last) is being 
developed as 2.57 based on the Gecko engine used in Firefox 60 but 
Shadow DOM (and Custom Elements) appeared in 63. Those would have to be 
backported by the SM devs, so don't hold your breath.


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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

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Hi,

Ray_Net a tapoté le 26/11/2020 01:25:
> I have bookmarked it and the result is the same.
> Also for me, it looaded, but the top part of page is missing.
> You should see in the upper right part a red button like this one:
> **
> * S'inscrire *
> **
> dit you see that button ?

No any button "s'inscrire" in pages...

> What SM version did you use ? mine is 2.53.3

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0
SeaMonkey/2.53.5

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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

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Ray_Net wrote:

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 26-11-20 15:46:

On 26/11/2020 05:42, Daniel wrote:

.. Does it help if you make both "83.0"??


No, because as Lemuel posted before, the site assumes that the browser
offers a JavaScript interface that SM doesn't yet have, and doesn't send
shim code ("polyfill") to provide it.

A polyfill that works for GitHub seems to send belfius into endless 
recursion.


/df


This seems correct, because the website dit not test the UA string.
Anyway ... in what SM version "polyfill" will work ?
Can you install Firefox or maybe Chrome also portable from 
https://portableapps.com/ on a USB drive and run it from there when the 
need arises to use another browser. I have Edge,Chrome,Opera,Firefox and 
also Thunderbird installed on one and run them when I need to or just to 
test them out and have imported my bookmarks and setting on each.


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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Ray_Net]

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 26-11-20 15:46:

On 26/11/2020 05:42, Daniel wrote:

.. Does it help if you make both "83.0"??


No, because as Lemuel posted before, the site assumes that the browser
offers a JavaScript interface that SM doesn't yet have, and doesn't send
shim code ("polyfill") to provide it.

A polyfill that works for GitHub seems to send belfius into endless 
recursion.


/df


This seems correct, because the website dit not test the UA string.
Anyway ... in what SM version "polyfill" will work ?
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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 26/11/2020 05:42, Daniel wrote:

.. Does it help if you make both "83.0"??


No, because as Lemuel posted before, the site assumes that the browser
offers a JavaScript interface that SM doesn't yet have, and doesn't send
shim code ("polyfill") to provide it.

A polyfill that works for GitHub seems to send belfius into endless 
recursion.


/df

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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Daniel]

Ray_Net wrote on 26/11/20 11:32:

Lemuel Johnson wrote on 25-11-20 21:08:

On 11/25/2020 11:02 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Hello,

Going to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 



shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me 
to be connected to my bank.


This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


See thread beginning Sept 2, 2020: RottenTomatoes.com rejects 
SeaMonkey even with fake UAs.


That site (and your bank) requires a browser that has support for the 
javascript object windows.customElements.  I don't think that's yet 
present in SeaMonkey.
I now also have another problem with a site I used often - it's 
https://login.one.com/mail
This one say that my browser is too old and I need to use ..blablabla... 
:-)

Putting this in user.js:
user_pref("general.useragent.override.belfius.be", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/83.0");
user_pref("general.useragent.override.one.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 
6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/83.0");

did not correct the two problems.

 

Ray, I don't know what the real FF UA indicates but yours indicates 
"rv:67.0" and "Firefox/83.0".


Does it help if you make both "83.0"??
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Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Ray_Net]

Lemuel Johnson wrote on 25-11-20 21:08:

On 11/25/2020 11:02 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Hello,

Going to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 



shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me 
to be connected to my bank.


This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


See thread beginning Sept 2, 2020: RottenTomatoes.com rejects 
SeaMonkey even with fake UAs.


That site (and your bank) requires a browser that has support for the 
javascript object windows.customElements.  I don't think that's yet 
present in SeaMonkey.
I now also have another problem with a site I used often - it's 
https://login.one.com/mail

This one say that my browser is too old and I need to use ..blablabla... :-)
Putting this in user.js:
user_pref("general.useragent.override.belfius.be", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/83.0");
user_pref("general.useragent.override.one.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 
6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/83.0");

did not correct the two problems.

 


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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Ray_Net]

David H. Durgee wrote on 25-11-20 23:29:

Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote on 25-11-20 20:33:

On 11/25/2020 9:02 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Hello,

Going to:
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 



shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting 
me to

be connected to my bank.

This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


Change banks.  I am in the process of closing my accounts at a credit
union where I have been a member (customer) for over 50 years.  I am
moving to another credit union.

The issue is that commerical Web sites often have their server software
updated.  What they fail to do is remain compatible with legacy systems
used by theit customers.  That indicates a lack of concern for those
whose transactions provide the profits that keep their businesses
operating.


I have two bank accounts in two different banks.
I agreed to abandon SM for the first bank, but now I have a similar 
problem with the second bank. I should also abandon SM for this 
second bank ?...
SM is not able to access now 2 banks, How can I find another bank 
compatible with SM ? And If I found one ... If they upgrade their 
website, it could be that SM will stop working.

It seems that things evolve, but not SM, or not rapidly enough.

Now the question is: Is someone with the latest SM that can see if 
The header is present containing a login red-button labelled "Se 
connecter" when going
  to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 
?


A question for you, can you simply bookmark the above and use it in 
SeaMonkey?  I was able to paste the link and it loaded, but I don't 
read French and thus don't know if this is working correctly.


Of course if they change the link behind the scenes again you will 
need to update your link, and if the JavaScript enhancement is still 
missing from SeaMonkey you might need to pull it from another browser.


I hope this is helpful.

Dave


I have bookmarked it and the result is the same.
Also for me, it looaded, but the top part of page is missing.
You should see in the upper right part a red button like this one:
**
* S'inscrire *
**
dit you see that button ?
What SM version did you use ? mine is 2.53.3
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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[David H. Durgee]

Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote on 25-11-20 20:33:

On 11/25/2020 9:02 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Hello,

Going to:
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 



shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me to
be connected to my bank.

This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


Change banks.  I am in the process of closing my accounts at a credit
union where I have been a member (customer) for over 50 years.  I am
moving to another credit union.

The issue is that commerical Web sites often have their server software
updated.  What they fail to do is remain compatible with legacy systems
used by theit customers.  That indicates a lack of concern for those
whose transactions provide the profits that keep their businesses
operating.


I have two bank accounts in two different banks.
I agreed to abandon SM for the first bank, but now I have a similar 
problem with the second bank. I should also abandon SM for this second 
bank ?...
SM is not able to access now 2 banks, How can I find another bank 
compatible with SM ? And If I found one ... If they upgrade their 
website, it could be that SM will stop working.

It seems that things evolve, but not SM, or not rapidly enough.

Now the question is: Is someone with the latest SM that can see if The 
header is present containing a login red-button labelled "Se connecter" 
when going
  to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 
?


A question for you, can you simply bookmark the above and use it in 
SeaMonkey?  I was able to paste the link and it loaded, but I don't read 
French and thus don't know if this is working correctly.


Of course if they change the link behind the scenes again you will need 
to update your link, and if the JavaScript enhancement is still missing 
from SeaMonkey you might need to pull it from another browser.


I hope this is helpful.

Dave
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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 11/25/2020 11:02 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Hello,

Going to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 



shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me to 
be connected to my bank.


This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


See thread beginning Sept 2, 2020: RottenTomatoes.com rejects SeaMonkey 
even with fake UAs.


That site (and your bank) requires a browser that has support for the 
javascript object windows.customElements.  I don't think that's yet 
present in SeaMonkey.

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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Ray_Net]

David E. Ross wrote on 25-11-20 20:33:

On 11/25/2020 9:02 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Hello,

Going to:
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx

shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me to
be connected to my bank.

This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


Change banks.  I am in the process of closing my accounts at a credit
union where I have been a member (customer) for over 50 years.  I am
moving to another credit union.

The issue is that commerical Web sites often have their server software
updated.  What they fail to do is remain compatible with legacy systems
used by theit customers.  That indicates a lack of concern for those
whose transactions provide the profits that keep their businesses
operating.


I have two bank accounts in two different banks.
I agreed to abandon SM for the first bank, but now I have a similar 
problem with the second bank. I should also abandon SM for this second 
bank ?...
SM is not able to access now 2 banks, How can I find another bank 
compatible with SM ? And If I found one ... If they upgrade their 
website, it could be that SM will stop working.

It seems that things evolve, but not SM, or not rapidly enough.

Now the question is: Is someone with the latest SM that can see if The 
header is present containing a login red-button labelled "Se connecter" 
when going
 to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 
?

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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[David E. Ross]

On 11/25/2020 9:02 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Going to: 
> https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx
> 
> shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me to 
> be connected to my bank.
> 
> This is true with Chrome and Firefox.
> 
> With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.
> 

Change banks.  I am in the process of closing my accounts at a credit
union where I have been a member (customer) for over 50 years.  I am
moving to another credit union.

The issue is that commerical Web sites often have their server software
updated.  What they fail to do is remain compatible with legacy systems
used by theit customers.  That indicates a lack of concern for those
whose transactions provide the profits that keep their businesses
operating.

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Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Ray_Net]

Hello,

Going to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx


shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me to 
be connected to my bank.


This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.
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