Re: about:config can I delete some entries

2021-02-17 Thread Chris Ilias

On 2021-02-16 12:59 p.m., Ray Davison wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:
About:config can I delete some entries? 


The preferred way to make a new entry is to create a USER.JS file.  That 
way you can add anything you want without any fear of damage to PREFS.JS.



Preferred by whom? :)

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Re: about:config can I delete some entries

2021-02-16 Thread Daniel

rodney wrote on 17/2/21 7:42 am:

Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote on 16/2/21 6:28 am:

On 2/14/2021 12:39 PM, rodney wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/14/2021 10:05 AM, Danny Kile wrote:
About:config can I delete some entries? I was in about:config 
making a

new entry. I then scrolled thru the complete file and I saw some some
old printer settings a printed that I have not had for may years. 
There
where 150 entries for that printer that no longer in use. The 
entry are
like this "print.printer_HP_Photosmart_C6200_IP.print_bgcolor 
;false",

and print.print_printer;HP Photosmart C6200 series, can I just delete
them? And if I can delete them how do I go about it, I see that 
you can

modify, copy, or create new but no delete.

Thank all for you input on this,

Danny


One of the menu options on an about:config entry is Reset.  You 
will not

see the entry disappear when you use that option.  In many cases,
however, the entry will disappear when you terminate SeaMonkey.

Unfortunately, you have to reset each entry one at a time.


A better way is to delete the old entries in pref.js.
Do this when SeaMonkey is closed.
Use Notepad or similar editor such as Komodo edit.
Don't use Microsoft's script editor or Word.
If you're uncomfortable do this, make a backup copy.



With 40+ years of experience, first as a programmer and then as a
software tester, I am far more comfortable using programmed capabilities
within a program (e.g., about:config) than tweaking raw data (e.g.,
prefs.js).  Not in this case but in others, tweaking raw data might
bypass necessary housekeeping that would be done though programmed
capabilities.

Hmm! I always thought "about:config" and "prefs.js" were just two 
different ways to see, basically, the same information, one with-in 
the program, one outside the program.


Am I wrong??

Yes, pref.js is all the non-default preference.


Ah!! O.K., then! Must fix my memory one day!! ;-P
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Re: about:config can I delete some entries

2021-02-16 Thread rodney via support-seamonkey

Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote on 16/2/21 6:28 am:

On 2/14/2021 12:39 PM, rodney wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/14/2021 10:05 AM, Danny Kile wrote:

About:config can I delete some entries? I was in about:config making a
new entry. I then scrolled thru the complete file and I saw some some
old printer settings a printed that I have not had for may years. 
There
where 150 entries for that printer that no longer in use. The entry 
are

like this "print.printer_HP_Photosmart_C6200_IP.print_bgcolor ;false",
and print.print_printer;HP Photosmart C6200 series, can I just delete
them? And if I can delete them how do I go about it, I see that you 
can

modify, copy, or create new but no delete.

Thank all for you input on this,

Danny


One of the menu options on an about:config entry is Reset.  You will 
not

see the entry disappear when you use that option.  In many cases,
however, the entry will disappear when you terminate SeaMonkey.

Unfortunately, you have to reset each entry one at a time.


A better way is to delete the old entries in pref.js.
Do this when SeaMonkey is closed.
Use Notepad or similar editor such as Komodo edit.
Don't use Microsoft's script editor or Word.
If you're uncomfortable do this, make a backup copy.



With 40+ years of experience, first as a programmer and then as a
software tester, I am far more comfortable using programmed capabilities
within a program (e.g., about:config) than tweaking raw data (e.g.,
prefs.js).  Not in this case but in others, tweaking raw data might
bypass necessary housekeeping that would be done though programmed
capabilities.

Hmm! I always thought "about:config" and "prefs.js" were just two 
different ways to see, basically, the same information, one with-in the 
program, one outside the program.


Am I wrong??

Yes, pref.js is all the non-default preference.
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Re: about:config can I delete some entries

2021-02-16 Thread David E. Ross
On 2/16/2021 9:59 AM, Ray Davison wrote:
> Danny Kile wrote:
>> About:config can I delete some entries? 
> 
> 
> The preferred way to make a new entry is to create a USER.JS file.  That 
> way you can add anything you want without any fear of damage to PREFS.JS.
> 
> Ray
> 
Also, you can add comments to user.js.  A comment is a line that begins
with //.  I do this to remind me why I made an entry.

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Re: about:config can I delete some entries

2021-02-16 Thread Ray Davison

Danny Kile wrote:
About:config can I delete some entries? 



The preferred way to make a new entry is to create a USER.JS file.  That 
way you can add anything you want without any fear of damage to PREFS.JS.


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Re: about:config can I delete some entries

2021-02-16 Thread EE

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/15/2021 11:49 PM, Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote on 16/2/21 6:28 am:

On 2/14/2021 12:39 PM, rodney wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/14/2021 10:05 AM, Danny Kile wrote:

About:config can I delete some entries? I was in about:config making a
new entry. I then scrolled thru the complete file and I saw some some
old printer settings a printed that I have not had for may years. There
where 150 entries for that printer that no longer in use. The entry are
like this "print.printer_HP_Photosmart_C6200_IP.print_bgcolor ;false",
and print.print_printer;HP Photosmart C6200 series, can I just delete
them? And if I can delete them how do I go about it, I see that you can
modify, copy, or create new but no delete.

Thank all for you input on this,

Danny


One of the menu options on an about:config entry is Reset.  You will not
see the entry disappear when you use that option.  In many cases,
however, the entry will disappear when you terminate SeaMonkey.

Unfortunately, you have to reset each entry one at a time.


A better way is to delete the old entries in pref.js.
Do this when SeaMonkey is closed.
Use Notepad or similar editor such as Komodo edit.
Don't use Microsoft's script editor or Word.
If you're uncomfortable do this, make a backup copy.



With 40+ years of experience, first as a programmer and then as a
software tester, I am far more comfortable using programmed capabilities
within a program (e.g., about:config) than tweaking raw data (e.g.,
prefs.js).  Not in this case but in others, tweaking raw data might
bypass necessary housekeeping that would be done though programmed
capabilities.


Hmm! I always thought "about:config" and "prefs.js" were just two
different ways to see, basically, the same information, one with-in the
program, one outside the program.

Am I wrong??



You SEE the same information.  With about:config, however, the software
limits you to screwing up only one entry at a time, limited to a small
set of actions.  Editing prefs.js allows you to screw up a whole bunch
of entries all at once, limited only by the capabilities of the text
editor you are using.

With prefs.js, you see only the settings you changed (or the application 
changed).  With about:config, you see the default settings as well as 
the altered settings.


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Re: about:config can I delete some entries

2021-02-16 Thread David E. Ross
On 2/15/2021 11:49 PM, Daniel wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote on 16/2/21 6:28 am:
>> On 2/14/2021 12:39 PM, rodney wrote:
>>> David E. Ross wrote:
>>>> On 2/14/2021 10:05 AM, Danny Kile wrote:
>>>>> About:config can I delete some entries? I was in about:config making a
>>>>> new entry. I then scrolled thru the complete file and I saw some some
>>>>> old printer settings a printed that I have not had for may years. There
>>>>> where 150 entries for that printer that no longer in use. The entry are
>>>>> like this "print.printer_HP_Photosmart_C6200_IP.print_bgcolor ;false",
>>>>> and print.print_printer;HP Photosmart C6200 series, can I just delete
>>>>> them? And if I can delete them how do I go about it, I see that you can
>>>>> modify, copy, or create new but no delete.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank all for you input on this,
>>>>>
>>>>> Danny
>>>>
>>>> One of the menu options on an about:config entry is Reset.  You will not
>>>> see the entry disappear when you use that option.  In many cases,
>>>> however, the entry will disappear when you terminate SeaMonkey.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, you have to reset each entry one at a time.
>>>>
>>> A better way is to delete the old entries in pref.js.
>>> Do this when SeaMonkey is closed.
>>> Use Notepad or similar editor such as Komodo edit.
>>> Don't use Microsoft's script editor or Word.
>>> If you're uncomfortable do this, make a backup copy.
>>>
>>
>> With 40+ years of experience, first as a programmer and then as a
>> software tester, I am far more comfortable using programmed capabilities
>> within a program (e.g., about:config) than tweaking raw data (e.g.,
>> prefs.js).  Not in this case but in others, tweaking raw data might
>> bypass necessary housekeeping that would be done though programmed
>> capabilities.
>>
> Hmm! I always thought "about:config" and "prefs.js" were just two 
> different ways to see, basically, the same information, one with-in the 
> program, one outside the program.
> 
> Am I wrong??
> 

You SEE the same information.  With about:config, however, the software
limits you to screwing up only one entry at a time, limited to a small
set of actions.  Editing prefs.js allows you to screw up a whole bunch
of entries all at once, limited only by the capabilities of the text
editor you are using.

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Re: about:config can I delete some entries

2021-02-16 Thread NFN Smith

Daniel wrote:
Hmm! I always thought "about:config" and "prefs.js" were just two 
different ways to see, basically, the same information, one with-in the 
program, one outside the program.


Am I wrong??
--



That's correct, although I think remember that there may be a few 
settings that are visible only by direct access to prefs.js


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Re: about:config can I delete some entries

2021-02-15 Thread Daniel

David E. Ross wrote on 16/2/21 6:28 am:

On 2/14/2021 12:39 PM, rodney wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/14/2021 10:05 AM, Danny Kile wrote:

About:config can I delete some entries? I was in about:config making a
new entry. I then scrolled thru the complete file and I saw some some
old printer settings a printed that I have not had for may years. There
where 150 entries for that printer that no longer in use. The entry are
like this "print.printer_HP_Photosmart_C6200_IP.print_bgcolor ;false",
and print.print_printer;HP Photosmart C6200 series, can I just delete
them? And if I can delete them how do I go about it, I see that you can
modify, copy, or create new but no delete.

Thank all for you input on this,

Danny


One of the menu options on an about:config entry is Reset.  You will not
see the entry disappear when you use that option.  In many cases,
however, the entry will disappear when you terminate SeaMonkey.

Unfortunately, you have to reset each entry one at a time.


A better way is to delete the old entries in pref.js.
Do this when SeaMonkey is closed.
Use Notepad or similar editor such as Komodo edit.
Don't use Microsoft's script editor or Word.
If you're uncomfortable do this, make a backup copy.



With 40+ years of experience, first as a programmer and then as a
software tester, I am far more comfortable using programmed capabilities
within a program (e.g., about:config) than tweaking raw data (e.g.,
prefs.js).  Not in this case but in others, tweaking raw data might
bypass necessary housekeeping that would be done though programmed
capabilities.

Hmm! I always thought "about:config" and "prefs.js" were just two 
different ways to see, basically, the same information, one with-in the 
program, one outside the program.


Am I wrong??
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Re: about:config can I delete some entries

2021-02-15 Thread NFN Smith

Danny Kile wrote:
About:config can I delete some entries? I was in about:config making a 
new entry. I then scrolled thru the complete file and I saw some some 
old printer settings a printed that I have not had for may years. There 
where 150 entries for that printer that no longer in use. The entry are 
like this "print.printer_HP_Photosmart_C6200_IP.print_bgcolor ;false", 
and print.print_printer;HP Photosmart C6200 series, can I just delete 
them? And if I can delete them how do I go about it, I see that you can 
modify, copy, or create new but no delete.



Yes, it's safe to delete entries for printers that you don't use.

You more or less have the necessary info in other responses to your 
post, but to summarize, the route I would go:


First, make a copy of your prefs.js file, so that you have a fall-back, 
if something isn't quite right.


From there,  If you're comfortable with doing that with a text editor 
(e.g., Notepad, and not something that designed for word processing), 
you can do it that way.  Personally, I'd go via about:config, where it's 
easier to use the search tool to filter all the entries related to a 
particular printer (e.g., "6200").  To me, that gives you a little more 
protection against accidental deletion of something that you don't want 
to delete.


For any direct interaction you do with prefs.js (both backup, and if you 
decide to work with a text editor), make sure you do that with Seamonkey 
closed.


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Re: about:config can I delete some entries

2021-02-15 Thread David E. Ross
On 2/14/2021 12:39 PM, rodney wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 2/14/2021 10:05 AM, Danny Kile wrote:
>>> About:config can I delete some entries? I was in about:config making a
>>> new entry. I then scrolled thru the complete file and I saw some some
>>> old printer settings a printed that I have not had for may years. There
>>> where 150 entries for that printer that no longer in use. The entry are
>>> like this "print.printer_HP_Photosmart_C6200_IP.print_bgcolor ;false",
>>> and print.print_printer;HP Photosmart C6200 series, can I just delete
>>> them? And if I can delete them how do I go about it, I see that you can
>>> modify, copy, or create new but no delete.
>>>
>>> Thank all for you input on this,
>>>
>>> Danny
>>
>> One of the menu options on an about:config entry is Reset.  You will not
>> see the entry disappear when you use that option.  In many cases,
>> however, the entry will disappear when you terminate SeaMonkey.
>>
>> Unfortunately, you have to reset each entry one at a time.
>>
> A better way is to delete the old entries in pref.js.
> Do this when SeaMonkey is closed.
> Use Notepad or similar editor such as Komodo edit.
> Don't use Microsoft's script editor or Word.
> If you're uncomfortable do this, make a backup copy.
> 

With 40+ years of experience, first as a programmer and then as a
software tester, I am far more comfortable using programmed capabilities
within a program (e.g., about:config) than tweaking raw data (e.g.,
prefs.js).  Not in this case but in others, tweaking raw data might
bypass necessary housekeeping that would be done though programmed
capabilities.

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Re: about:config can I delete some entries

2021-02-15 Thread EE

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/14/2021 10:05 AM, Danny Kile wrote:

About:config can I delete some entries? I was in about:config making a
new entry. I then scrolled thru the complete file and I saw some some
old printer settings a printed that I have not had for may years. There
where 150 entries for that printer that no longer in use. The entry are
like this "print.printer_HP_Photosmart_C6200_IP.print_bgcolor ;false",
and print.print_printer;HP Photosmart C6200 series, can I just delete
them? And if I can delete them how do I go about it, I see that you can
modify, copy, or create new but no delete.

Thank all for you input on this,

Danny


One of the menu options on an about:config entry is Reset.  You will not
see the entry disappear when you use that option.  In many cases,
however, the entry will disappear when you terminate SeaMonkey.

Unfortunately, you have to reset each entry one at a time.

You can check the entry again after reloading about:config.  The entry 
should be gone after reset if it is no longer valid.


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Re: about:config can I delete some entries

2021-02-14 Thread rodney via support-seamonkey

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/14/2021 10:05 AM, Danny Kile wrote:

About:config can I delete some entries? I was in about:config making a
new entry. I then scrolled thru the complete file and I saw some some
old printer settings a printed that I have not had for may years. There
where 150 entries for that printer that no longer in use. The entry are
like this "print.printer_HP_Photosmart_C6200_IP.print_bgcolor ;false",
and print.print_printer;HP Photosmart C6200 series, can I just delete
them? And if I can delete them how do I go about it, I see that you can
modify, copy, or create new but no delete.

Thank all for you input on this,

Danny


One of the menu options on an about:config entry is Reset.  You will not
see the entry disappear when you use that option.  In many cases,
however, the entry will disappear when you terminate SeaMonkey.

Unfortunately, you have to reset each entry one at a time.


A better way is to delete the old entries in pref.js.
Do this when SeaMonkey is closed.
Use Notepad or similar editor such as Komodo edit.
Don't use Microsoft's script editor or Word.
If you're uncomfortable do this, make a backup copy.
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Re: about:config can I delete some entries

2021-02-14 Thread David E. Ross
On 2/14/2021 10:05 AM, Danny Kile wrote:
> About:config can I delete some entries? I was in about:config making a 
> new entry. I then scrolled thru the complete file and I saw some some 
> old printer settings a printed that I have not had for may years. There 
> where 150 entries for that printer that no longer in use. The entry are 
> like this "print.printer_HP_Photosmart_C6200_IP.print_bgcolor ;false", 
> and print.print_printer;HP Photosmart C6200 series, can I just delete 
> them? And if I can delete them how do I go about it, I see that you can 
> modify, copy, or create new but no delete.
> 
> Thank all for you input on this,
> 
> Danny

One of the menu options on an about:config entry is Reset.  You will not
see the entry disappear when you use that option.  In many cases,
however, the entry will disappear when you terminate SeaMonkey.

Unfortunately, you have to reset each entry one at a time.

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about:config can I delete some entries

2021-02-14 Thread Danny Kile
About:config can I delete some entries? I was in about:config making a 
new entry. I then scrolled thru the complete file and I saw some some 
old printer settings a printed that I have not had for may years. There 
where 150 entries for that printer that no longer in use. The entry are 
like this "print.printer_HP_Photosmart_C6200_IP.print_bgcolor ;false", 
and print.print_printer;HP Photosmart C6200 series, can I just delete 
them? And if I can delete them how do I go about it, I see that you can 
modify, copy, or create new but no delete.


Thank all for you input on this,

Danny
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