Interviewed by CNN on 01/08/2011 15:31, Pat Connors told the world:
Okay, I just got home after a week away and see there is another new
version of SM. I am still on 2.0.14 and didn't update to 2.2 because of
all the complaints. Now we have 2.3 and more complaints. I really
don't know
Pat Connors a écrit :
Okay, I just got home after a week away and see there is another new
version of SM. I am still on 2.0.14 and didn't update to 2.2 because of
all the complaints. Now we have 2.3 and more complaints. I really don't
know what to do. I like the version I am using. I am using
MCBastos wrote:
I'm using Win7 x64 and had *no* problems with the update
This was my experience. I did notice a couple oddities like the
right-click menu going full screen height. But the speed improvement in
the email windows alone was worth it for me. Some of the louder people
on the
On 2011-08-08 10:17, sean nathan bean wrote:
Pat Connors sent me the following::
Okay, I just got home after a week away and see there is another new
version of SM. I am still on 2.0.14 and didn't update to 2.2 because of
all the complaints. Now we have 2.3 and more complaints. I really don't
A.Nonny Mouse wrote:
On 2011-08-08 10:17, sean nathan bean wrote:
Pat Connors sent me the following::
Okay, I just got home after a week away and see there is another new
version of SM. I am still on 2.0.14 and didn't update to 2.2 because of
all the complaints. Now we have 2.3 and more
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
The link you provide above takes me to a google groups login
page.
All my tries to retrieve previous articles by clicking on
Message-IDs or the numbers assigned them in the References: list
are directed by SM to
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Chris Ilias wrote:
On 11-08-11 12:37 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by
PhillipJones to my cynical posting I wish I could writhe ... ...
pooper scooper brigade. But I can not
NoOp wrote:
On 08/11/2011 08:02 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Chris Ilias wrote:
On 11-08-11 12:37 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by
PhillipJones to my cynical posting I wish I could writhe ... ...
Interviewed by CNN on 12/08/2011 00:34, NoOp told the world:
Thank goodness you don't use FoxNews...
I chose CNN for maximum recognition both here in Brazil and abroad.
FoxNews is available on cable here, but it's still pretty obscure --
nobody I know watches it. Their political rhetoric
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
The link you provide above takes me to a google groups login
page.
All my tries to retrieve previous articles by clicking on
Message-IDs or the numbers assigned them in the References:
On 08/12/2011 07:56 AM, MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 12/08/2011 00:34, NoOp told the world:
Thank goodness you don't use FoxNews...
I chose CNN for maximum recognition both here in Brazil and abroad.
FoxNews is available on cable here, but it's still pretty obscure --
nobody I
On 11-08-12 12:06 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Chris Ilias wrote:
I removed it. See
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/e1b618a1563e79a3.
Do you mean that you censored, removed, deleted, PhillipJones' article
from
On Aug 5, 3:17 am, Justin Wood (Callek) cal...@gmail.com wrote:
Okay, I just got home after a week away and see there is another new
version of SM. I am still on 2.0.14 and didn't update to 2.2 because of
all the complaints. Now we have 2.3 and more complaints. I really don't
know what to
MCBastos schrieb:
Then, the third thing: Webkit is a smaller, more focused project than
Gecko.
Nowadays, even that is a myth. While Webkit doesn't understand all the
same standards as full as Gecko does, it grew its own networking library
etc. over time because they learned the same lessons
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
PhillipJones wrote:
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 09/08/2011 21:18, Rufus told the world:
...it was a suggestion for a *new* SM product from the *SM* team
because
someone posed a question - and not even that particular product,
On 11-08-11 12:37 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by
PhillipJones to my cynical posting I wish I could writhe ... ...
pooper scooper brigade. But I can not find PhillipJoness' posting at
Mozilla News.
It used to be that clicking on
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 10/08/2011 16:45, Justin Wood (Callek) told the
world:
PhillipJones wrote:
[...]
I strongly suspect he wasn't interviewed by CNN, and in the end, he
didn't email the world. All he did was to email somebody on this list.
Somewhat complicated at times,
Chris Ilias wrote:
On 11-08-11 12:37 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by
PhillipJones to my cynical posting I wish I could writhe ... ...
pooper scooper brigade. But I can not find PhillipJoness' posting at
Mozilla News.
It used to
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Chris Ilias wrote:
On 11-08-11 12:37 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by
PhillipJones to my cynical posting I wish I could writhe ... ...
pooper scooper brigade. But I can not find PhillipJoness' posting
Keith Whaley wrote:
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 10/08/2011 16:45, Justin Wood (Callek) told the
world:
PhillipJones wrote:
[...]
I strongly suspect he wasn't interviewed by CNN, and in the end, he
didn't email the world. All he did was to email somebody on this list.
Somewhat
Interviewed by CNN on 11/08/2011 16:42, Keith Whaley told the world:
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 10/08/2011 16:45, Justin Wood (Callek) told the
world:
PhillipJones wrote:
[...]
I strongly suspect he wasn't interviewed by CNN, and in the end, he
didn't email the world. All he
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Chris Ilias wrote:
On 11-08-11 12:37 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by
PhillipJones to my cynical posting I wish I could writhe ... ...
pooper scooper brigade. But I can not find PhillipJoness' posting
On 08/11/2011 07:10 PM, MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 11/08/2011 16:42, Keith Whaley told the world:
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 10/08/2011 16:45, Justin Wood (Callek) told the
world:
PhillipJones wrote:
[...]
I strongly suspect he wasn't interviewed by CNN, and in the
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Chris Ilias wrote:
On 11-08-11 12:37 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by
PhillipJones to my cynical posting I wish I could writhe ... ...
pooper scooper brigade. But I can not
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 09/08/2011 21:18, Rufus told the world:
...it was a suggestion for a *new* SM product from the *SM* team because
someone posed a question - and not even that particular product, it's an
*example*...crap, can't anybody around here think *conceptually*?
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 09/08/2011 21:18, Rufus told the world:
...it was a suggestion for a *new* SM product from the *SM* team because
someone posed a question - and not even that particular product, it's an
*example*...crap, can't anybody around here
PhillipJones wrote:
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 09/08/2011 21:18, Rufus told the world:
...it was a suggestion for a *new* SM product from the *SM* team
because
someone posed a question - and not even that particular product,
it's an
*example*...crap,
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 10/08/2011 16:45, Justin Wood (Callek) told the
world:
PhillipJones wrote:
Rather than being locked into Firefox running itself into the ground and
following suit. I suggest the developers at SeaMonkey say goodbye to
Mozilla and switch to web-kit engine.
Rufus schrieb:
Someone asked for an example of how the SM team could generate some
actual revenue...this is one way
No, because it's not a product of the SeaMonkey team, but of the
Firefox-related teams. It would be their revenue, and they don't need it.
Robert Kaiser
--
Note that any
On 11-08-07 9:42 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
WLS wrote:
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
I'm only saying what I've read here from authoritative sources; the
only addition is my judgment half-baked, which reflects many of
the opinions voiced here.
If you don't like it, speak to the merits of the
Chris Ilias wrote:
On 11-08-07 9:42 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
WLS wrote:
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
I'm only saying what I've read here from authoritative sources; the
only addition is my judgment half-baked, which reflects many of
the opinions voiced here.
If you don't like it, speak to
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Rufus schrieb:
Someone asked for an example of how the SM team could generate some
actual revenue...this is one way
No, because it's not a product of the SeaMonkey team, but of the
Firefox-related teams. It would be their revenue, and they don't need it.
Robert Kaiser
Interviewed by CNN on 09/08/2011 12:31, PhillipJones told the world:
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Okay if that's the case here is one for you . I tried the 2.3.b3 the
other day. Just to see if there was improvement.
Well PDF still doesn't work though all my plugins work except the one
for
Interviewed by CNN on 09/08/2011 21:18, Rufus told the world:
...it was a suggestion for a *new* SM product from the *SM* team because
someone posed a question - and not even that particular product, it's an
*example*...crap, can't anybody around here think *conceptually*?
...are you
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 09/08/2011 21:18, Rufus told the world:
...it was a suggestion for a *new* SM product from the *SM* team because
someone posed a question - and not even that particular product, it's an
*example*...crap, can't anybody around here think *conceptually*?
WLS wrote:
Daniel wrote:
WLS wrote:
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
WLS wrote:
Ray_Net wrote:
WLS wrote:
Ray_Net wrote:
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 05/08/2011 11:17, Bill Davidsen told the
world:
Some commercial users have complained that they can't do a QA
cycle
that often,
and
Daniel wrote:
WLS wrote:
Daniel wrote:
WLS wrote:
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
WLS wrote:
Ray_Net wrote:
WLS wrote:
Ray_Net wrote:
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 05/08/2011 11:17, Bill Davidsen told the
world:
Some commercial users have complained that they can't do a QA
cycle
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
WLS wrote:
Daniel wrote:
WLS wrote:
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
WLS wrote:
Ray_Net wrote:
WLS wrote:
Ray_Net wrote:
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 05/08/2011 11:17, Bill Davidsen told the
world:
Some commercial users have complained that they can't
Daniel wrote:
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
Do you have WebGL disabled in about:config?
Really even if its enabled in about:config, it could be disabled on your
system.
webgl.disabled ... default.false (is disabled and false a double
negative??)
Yes it is a double negative, if
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
Jens Hatlak wrote:
[This is mostly for Philip et al. since Callek surely knows or can
find out himself.]
AFAICS it's 2.5 (current trunk) that will have seven levels in the
plus direction and 4 in the
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) schrieb:
Unfortunately, from a user perspective, major
change is rarely welcome, whilst increased security and incremental
bug fixes are universally appreciated.
Right, that's why the major change the web brought to computers was
never
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Jens Hatlak schrieb:
IOW, for things like Add-ons Manager and Data Manager (called from
different places!), corresponding bugs need to be filed if not already
present. No bug, no change.
One is enough, it's the switchToTabHavingURI() function that is to blame
and used by
Robert Kaiser wrote:
PhillipJones schrieb:
The original post meant SeaMonkey.
It didn't.
FF is up to 5.6.7.8 or whatever.
SM increments their major updates by .1's
2.0, 2.1, 2.2., 2.3, 2.4 and so on.
That is just a different numbering system, the rate and size of updates
is very similar.
Rufus schrieb:
99 cent price point for i-apps which augment SM on the iOS platform -
cha-ching! If they still want to give the suite away for free, they can
still do that. But i-apps and complementary add-ons? Sell away - biz
model 2.0!
Note that this is not done by the SM team and no money
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj schrieb:
What's relevant is not their naming but their frequency and buggines!
Right, and SeaMonkey matches Firefox both in frequency as well as mostly
in how few bugs it has, though SeaMonkey tends to have a bit more of
those than Firefox recently. Still, the
On 8/8/2011 12:27 PM Robert Kaiser submitted the following:
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj schrieb:
What's relevant is not their naming but their frequency and buggines!
Right, and SeaMonkey matches Firefox both in frequency as well as mostly in how
few bugs it has, though SeaMonkey tends to have a bit
Ed Mullen schrieb:
What is unacceptable is that the user can no longer set his/her own
values for toolkit.zoomManager.zoomValues.
1) SeaMonkey never allowed to set custom values for the list of
available zoom levels before, that was a Firefox-only feature until
recently.
2) Newer SeaMonkey
Pat Connors sent me the following::
Okay, I just got home after a week away and see there is another new
version of SM. I am still on 2.0.14 and didn't update to 2.2 because of
all the complaints. Now we have 2.3 and more complaints. I really don't
know what to do. I like the version I am using.
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
MCBastos wrote:
But, the thing is, with limited resources available, supporting
those old releases means that the new release does not receive as
much work as it needs. With Seamonkey tied to the every-six-weeks
Mozilla release schedule, delaying release is not an
WLS wrote:
The Mozilla Foundation is leading the development of a better Internet.
http://www.mozilla.org/about/mission.html
http://www.mozilla.org/about/manifesto
By its' own claims and pronouncements!
Just because you don't like it, don't spread misinformation.
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Sun, 07 Aug 2011 20:29:22 -0400, /Paul B. Gallagher/:
As our parents used to ask, If everyone else jumped off a cliff,
would you do it, too? Just because the FF people decided to rush
things and churn out a series of half-baked products for
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
MCBastos wrote:
But, the thing is, with limited resources available, supporting
those old releases means that the new release does not receive as
much work as it needs. With Seamonkey tied to the every-six-weeks
Mozilla release schedule,
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
WLS wrote:
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
I'm only saying what I've read here from authoritative sources; the
only addition is my judgment half-baked, which reflects many of
the opinions voiced here.
If you don't like it, speak to the merits of the argument. You need
not
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
MCBastos wrote:
But, the thing is, with limited resources available, supporting
those old releases means that the new release does not receive
as much work as it needs. With Seamonkey tied to the
every-six-weeks Mozilla release schedule,
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 07/08/2011 21:29, Paul B. Gallagher told the world:
MCBastos wrote:
But, the thing is, with limited resources available, supporting
those old releases means that the new release does not receive as
much work as it needs. With Seamonkey tied to the
Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:27:03 -0400, /Rostyslaw Lewyckyj/:
MCBastos wrote:
First of all, I reject the premise that FF would be churning half-baked
products. This is simply not true. In fact, it has been argued that the
new rapid-release schedule IMPROVES quality, since each release goes
through
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
And how about repairing in 2.2 bugs discovered after release in 2.1?
And in 2.3 repairing bugs from 2.1 and/or 2.2?
(There have, I admit, promises to repair in 2.4 or later, some problems
introduced in 2.1 :-) )
I'm sure you're capable of reading, no? How about
On 08/07/2011 09:44 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
NoOp wrote:
...
Same as Daniel.
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110731
Firefox/6.0 SeaMonkey/2.3
From about:support
Graphics
Adapter DescriptionNVIDIA Corporation -- Quadro4 900
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj schrieb:
What's relevant is not their naming but their frequency and buggines!
Right, and SeaMonkey matches Firefox both in frequency as well as mostly
in how few bugs it has, though SeaMonkey tends to have a bit more of
those than Firefox recently.
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj schrieb:
So how many weeks of pure debugging and actual test suite testing did
SM 2.1 receive (in addition to testing by the FF and TB team testing?
Too little automated testing, we need more tests to be written and are
happy about people doing those, feel free to
Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:
You must've expected when you made the decision, or at least you know
now, that lots of users are unhappy with versions 2.1 and 2.2 and have
been complaining about bugs, broken and lost features, etc.
Note that 1) the 2.1 release was not part of the fast release
NoOp schrieb:
The driver is the latest for that card.
Blame nVidia for being customer-unfriendly and stopping to support your
card in newer drivers.
Robert Kaiser
--
Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never
meant to be offensive but very often as food for
NoOp schrieb:
Thanks. I suspect that is the issue (linux). Same problem on a 2 year
old laptop w/Intel Mobile GM45... I'll run out and buy a new laptop
tomorrow so I can experience all the wonders of WebGL :-)
As I said in my post, under Linux the card may not the problem,
Mozilla's support
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj schrieb:
And how soon the bugs are eliminated :-)
Right now bugs, misfeatures, introduced in SM 2.1 are projected to be
possibly corrected in 2.5. Them's the new development rules.
True, we are fixing bugs all the time and releasing every six week to
deliver the fixes to
On 08/08/2011 06:48 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
NoOp schrieb:
The driver is the latest for that card.
Blame nVidia for being customer-unfriendly and stopping to support your
card in newer drivers.
Robert Kaiser
I do.
Examples:
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Rufus schrieb:
99 cent price point for i-apps which augment SM on the iOS platform -
cha-ching! If they still want to give the suite away for free, they can
still do that. But i-apps and complementary add-ons? Sell away - biz
model 2.0!
Note that this is not done by the
On 08/08/2011 06:54 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
NoOp schrieb:
Thanks. I suspect that is the issue (linux). Same problem on a 2 year
old laptop w/Intel Mobile GM45... I'll run out and buy a new laptop
tomorrow so I can experience all the wonders of WebGL :-)
As I said in my post, under Linux
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
Rufus wrote:
*This* surprises the crap out of me though, considering some of what
I've read here elsewhere -
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/mobile/
...and you get it via the Apple App Store.
Off topic for this NG, *but* Firefox Home is *not* Firefox for iPhone,
it
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Well, the mass of innovation-resistant people posting in those forums
is at least one of the reasons why I moved away my focus from
SeaMonkey and work on making Firefox more stable (in terms of not
crashing) now.
Understood,
Bill Davidsen wrote:
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 05/08/2011 11:17, Bill Davidsen told the world:
Some commercial users have complained that they can't do a QA cycle
that often,
and according to the reports were told that Firefox is not suitable
for business
use. I can dig out the
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Sat, 06 Aug 2011 21:47:15 +0100, /Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)/:
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Well, the mass of innovation-resistant people posting in those
forums is at least one of the reasons why I moved away my focus
from SeaMonkey and work on making Firefox
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
WLS wrote:
Ray_Net wrote:
WLS wrote:
Ray_Net wrote:
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 05/08/2011 11:17, Bill Davidsen told the world:
Some commercial users have complained that they can't do a QA cycle
that often,
and according to the reports were told that
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Sun, 07 Aug 2011 10:37:53 +0100, /Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)/:
Putting a reasoned argument on behalf of those who prefer stability
and security to non-essential change is not bitching; it is
offering a
WLS wrote:
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
WLS wrote:
Ray_Net wrote:
WLS wrote:
Ray_Net wrote:
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 05/08/2011 11:17, Bill Davidsen told the
world:
Some commercial users have complained that they can't do a QA cycle
that often,
and according to the reports
Sun, 07 Aug 2011 12:12:48 +0100, /Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)/:
I agree that some of the critiques have lacked focus; but in
general, I believe that those who are most vocal in criticising
the current changes in Seamonkey development and release are
also amongst those who are most deeply
Daniel wrote:
Philip, perhaps it might help to consider the SeaMonkey developers not as a
group of developers who are trying to produce a product that will sweep all before
them, but as a group of *USERS* who are trying to produce a product that will do
what *they* want, and you and I get
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
The only thing I'm genuinely afraid of is that the last few people
who care about, and have enough knowledge to develop and maintain
SeaMonkey might lose interest because of so much unreasonable
criticism going on. From my point of view every change to the
SeaMonkey
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
What we need (IMHO) is a genuine debate between users and
developers; a little less sniping, and a better appreciation
by each side of the wishes of, and constraints on, the other
side, would go a long way towards ensuring a viable future
for this most
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Sun, 07 Aug 2011 12:12:48 +0100, /Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)/:
I agree that some of the critiques have lacked focus; but in
general, I believe that those who are most vocal in criticising
the current changes in Seamonkey development and release are
also amongst
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
[snip]
We all want the same thing, SeaMonkey to Succeed!
Remember that, and remember that we do read and care
about your [regular users] thoughts. Sometimes tradeoffs
are necessary, sometimes new features are necessary.
Sometimes features you (and us) have come to
Rufus wrote:
PhillipJones wrote:
Rufus wrote:
Robert Kaiser wrote:
PhillipJones schrieb:
The original post meant SeaMonkey.
It didn't.
FF is up to 5.6.7.8 or whatever.
SM increments their major updates by .1's
2.0, 2.1, 2.2., 2.3, 2.4 and so on.
That is just a different numbering
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
You are probably almost certainly correct. The problem is,
the release notes do not provide any of this background --
we the users have no way of knowing which features were
deliberately introduced by the Seamonkey team, which
were carried over from
Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:52:03 +0100, /Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)/:
The problem is, the release notes do not provide any of this
background -- we the users have no way of knowing which features
were deliberately introduced by the Seamonkey team, which were
carried over from Firefox/Gecko
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Sat, 06 Aug 2011 21:47:15 +0100, /Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)/:
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Well, the mass of innovation-resistant people posting in those
forums is at least one of the reasons why I moved away my focus
WLS wrote:
Daniel wrote:
WLS wrote:
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
WLS wrote:
Ray_Net wrote:
WLS wrote:
Ray_Net wrote:
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 05/08/2011 11:17, Bill Davidsen told the
world:
Some commercial users have complained that they can't do a QA
cycle
that often,
and
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
I don't know the answer to the DOM-inspector question, which is why I chose not
to answer it when I read it. That said there is a newsgroup for DOM Inspector
in these newsgroups (though much less frequented then SeaMonkey) and it *is* an
on-topic question in our
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Sun, 07 Aug 2011 10:37:53 +0100, /Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)/:
Putting a reasoned argument on behalf of those who prefer stability
and security to non-essential change is not bitching; it is
offering a constructive criticism that should be interpreted
as such.
Sun, 07 Aug 2011 11:31:21 -0400, /PhillipJones/:
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
The problem with the so called constructive criticism I see
widespread in this group, is it doesn't help keeping the
SeaMonkey product alive, most importantly, and then usable,
both related to the Mozilla platform
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Sun, 07 Aug 2011 11:31:21 -0400, /PhillipJones/:
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
The problem with the so called constructive criticism I see
widespread in this group, is it doesn't help keeping the
SeaMonkey product alive, most importantly, and then usable,
both
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Sun, 07 Aug 2011 12:12:48 +0100, /Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)/:
I agree that some of the critiques have lacked focus; but in
general, I believe that those who are most vocal in criticising
the current changes in Seamonkey development and release are
also amongst
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
I don't know the answer to the DOM-inspector question, which is why I
chose not to answer it when I read it. That said there is a newsgroup
for DOM Inspector in these newsgroups (though much less frequented
then SeaMonkey)
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
As of 2.2, tabs were forced when one attempted to
access either the Data Manager or the Add-ons
manager via the Tools menu interface. If that
behaviour is reverted in a more recent release,
then I am both reassured and
Sun, 07 Aug 2011 11:41:56 -0400, /PhillipJones/:
But when you get to the point you kill off Internet plugins that
have word for ages and still should work. That the point I stop
upgrading.
With 2.3 I can't even view large sections of my own website. and I
set up so it 4.0.1 Strict. I use a lot
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
While the widespreading could be a symptom to a problem,
I've been observing this group long enough to deduce most
of the criticism seen is just ignorant babble.
OK, in view of your long association with, and observation of,
this group, may I ask you one question
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
While the widespreading could be a symptom to a problem,
I've been observing this group long enough to deduce most
of the criticism seen is just ignorant babble.
OK, in view of your long association with, and observation
PhillipJones wrote:
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Sun, 07 Aug 2011 12:12:48 +0100, /Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)/:
I agree that some of the critiques have lacked focus; but in
general, I believe that those who are most vocal in criticising
the current changes in Seamonkey development and
Sun, 07 Aug 2011 17:18:58 +0100, /Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)/:
OK, in view of your long association with, and observation of,
this group, may I ask you one question ? Has there been
equally widespread (and ill-informed ?) criticism following
each major release of Seamonkey, or has there
On 08/07/2011 08:27 AM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
WLS wrote:
Daniel wrote:
WLS wrote:
...
Here is the link if anyone wants to view the demo.
http://robhawkes.github.com/webgl-html5-audio-visualiser/
Clicking on the link got me Jazz sounding music with a blank screen and
Done
SeaMonkey
NoOp wrote:
Seems to be the Windows Vista syndrome... fill the landfills with old
hardware so that you can experience the latest greatest. Further,
NVIDIA 257.21 doesn't work on Quadro4 cards.
Not restricted to Vista; I too see nothing under Win/XP;SP3.
Adapter Description
Daniel wrote:
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Sun, 07 Aug 2011 10:37:53 +0100, /Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)/:
Putting a reasoned argument on behalf of those who prefer stability
and security to non-essential change is not bitching; it is
offering a
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