Re: How does this work?

2009-02-19 Thread HeavyDuty

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:



the one on the right is a flash player and it doesn't run until 
you click on it.  The other one, on the left, is a wmp player 
and its that one that starts right away.


What happens in a test profile?


Thanks Peter,


What happens, happens pretty fast. I do appreciate your help. If 
you have figured this out, and so I can deal with this in the 
future, were you saying in your previous post to hit F11 as soon 
as I see the opening web page to stop the WMP version from 
starting? That might be helpful if I ever visit this site again 
(not likely) but not if I stubble on another web site that does 
the same thing without my anticipation or and without warning.


Beyond this specific example, once a video starts, as this one 
does, how to stop it without shutting down? Losing control over 
the computer is my principal concern.


No. I have not created a test profile yet. I am hoping someone 
knows how to defeat an attacking video.


Thanks for your help.


I didn't say that at all about F11.  You said you get a full 
screen video captured my computer so I interpreted that as 
saying you get the video in Full Screen mode.  Hitting F11 is a 
toggle between full screen and normal screen mode.  From the 
browser, hit F11 and see what happens.


Now reading what you're saying, this is not your problem.  So, 
you have to tell me what you mean by an 'attacking' video?  Yes, 
on that site [and on others], the video plays automatically. 
Thats the way the site was designed and the way wmp works. 
Unfortunately, as far as I know, there is no way to turn off the 
automatic start of a wmp video without hitting the stop button on 
the video controls.


So, maybe you need to give a little more info about what exactly 
is your problem.




F11 toggles nothing. The video plays full screen.
There are no video controls displayed to hit the stop button. If 
there is a stop button on this (or any other) web site and the 
video autoplays instantaneously, I doubt that I would know in time 
to stop it. In this case, WMP does not start in a visible way. The 
monitor screen just drops to black and a few seconds later the 
video starts.


The questions remains, how to a) stop an instantaneous video from 
running without my explicit action to start it, or how to stop 
such a video during play. All I want is to be able to regain 
control of the computer and not have to wait until a video ends or 
until I shut down the computer.


lets try it this way.  This is what I see when I visit that site: 
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1678/wmpah0.jpg


On the bottom right is a flash vid that won't start until I click it.

On the bottom left is a wmp vid that starts automatically when I go 
to that page.  As you can see, I have controls on the bottom of the 
vid to stop, start, and so forth.  Is this what you see? If not, 
then post an image somewhere of what you get and we'll go from there.



Yes Peter,

That is what I see for less than two seconds. Not enough time for me 
to get the cursor to that (sub)menu bar and hit stop. Certainly not 
enough time to even know what or where to look if I am a first time 
visitor. Of course, by now, I am not a first timer.
Nonetheless, once this video starts, I cannot stop it. This is NOT 
about this particular sales pitch on this site. I am not 
intentionally going back to this site again, but I have concern 
about this happening again on another site. That is what I am asking 
help about. How can I stop/escape this type of behavior (elsewhere) 
once it starts? I want to be able to take back control of my 
computer. How to do this? That is the question.


well for a first timer, I'm sure that if they'd scroll down, then I'm 
sure they'd see where this voice was coming from, and which video was 
playing.  Then if they click on the video controls, they could stop 
it.  Or if they right click on it, then it would bring up the 
advanced controls and they can stop it from there.


Why you can't figure out that some sort of video is playing, and 
which video is playing, I have no idea. Why you are unable to click 
on the vid stop button, again I have no idea.



Peter,
The reason you have no idea is because you will not accept what I have 
described. I used another computer and saw what you must be seeing. On 
that other computer I can F11 to toggle image size, and I can click on 
the left screen where this e image emanates. I can right click and 
stop it. But, NOT on my main computer. As I have repeatedly said, this 
video image emerges full screen (and not from the small left screen) 
with no way of controlling it at all. Since I have the same experience 
with IExplorer. WMPlayer is messed up.I have removed WMPlayer. As a 
result, the left 

Re: How does this work?

2009-02-19 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

HeavyDuty wrote:


Thanks Peter.
When I went to the MS site and downloaded the version 9 it offered, XP 
refused to install it. I'll see what happens with a new install of 11, 
or a new install of

the 9 you directed me to.


by the way, by any chance, are you using the WMP 
Firefox Plugin?: 
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/AllDownloads.aspx

http://port25.technet.com/pages/windows-media-player-firefox-plugin-download.aspx

May or may not fix your problem, though

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Re: How does this work?

2009-02-18 Thread HeavyDuty

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:



the one on the right is a flash player and it doesn't run until you 
click on it.  The other one, on the left, is a wmp player and its that 
one that starts right away.


What happens in a test profile?


Thanks Peter,


What happens, happens pretty fast. I do appreciate your 
help. If you have figured this out, and so I can deal with 
this in the future, were you saying in your previous post to 
hit F11 as soon as I see the opening web page to stop the 
WMP version from starting? That might be helpful if I ever 
visit this site again (not likely) but not if I stubble on 
another web site that does the same thing without my 
anticipation or and without warning.


Beyond this specific example, once a video starts, as this 
one does, how to stop it without shutting down? Losing 
control over the computer is my principal concern.


No. I have not created a test profile yet. I am hoping 
someone knows how to defeat an attacking video.


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Re: How does this work?

2009-02-18 Thread JeffM
HeavyDuty wrote:
Seamonkey 1.1.14, WinXP Pro SP3

I received an e-mail from a professional organization that
provided a link to a website. 
http://newsletter.swd.ca/link.php?M=98038N=220L=119F=H

When I clicked the link, a full screen video captured my computer.
No way to stop it (without shutting off the computer).
These did not work: Ctrl Break, ctrl+alt+delete,
esc, enter, tab, f1-f8, you name it, I was captive.

The one I'll name is Alt+Tab.
It allows you to scroll thru active Windoze tasks.
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Re: How does this work?

2009-02-18 Thread Mark Hansen
On 02/18/09 12:44, HeavyDuty wrote:
 Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
 
 
 the one on the right is a flash player and it doesn't run until you 
 click on it.  The other one, on the left, is a wmp player and its that 
 one that starts right away.
 
 What happens in a test profile?
 
 Thanks Peter,
 
 
 What happens, happens pretty fast. I do appreciate your 
 help. If you have figured this out, and so I can deal with 
 this in the future, were you saying in your previous post to 
 hit F11 as soon as I see the opening web page to stop the 
 WMP version from starting? That might be helpful if I ever 
 visit this site again (not likely) but not if I stubble on 
 another web site that does the same thing without my 
 anticipation or and without warning.
 
 Beyond this specific example, once a video starts, as this 
 one does, how to stop it without shutting down? Losing 
 control over the computer is my principal concern.
 
 No. I have not created a test profile yet. I am hoping 
 someone knows how to defeat an attacking video.

I think it's possible the problem you're seeing is the result
of a problem in your profile. This is why the request to try
the page in a test profile.

For example, when I browse to that page, I don't see the same
problem you're seeing. The page seems to work correctly.

If you try it in a test profile and don't have the problem,
then you can starting looking at what in your profile may
be causing the problem.

 
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Re: How does this work?

2009-02-18 Thread HeavyDuty

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:



the one on the right is a flash player and it doesn't run until you 
click on it.  The other one, on the left, is a wmp player and its 
that one that starts right away.


What happens in a test profile?


Thanks Peter,


What happens, happens pretty fast. I do appreciate your help. If you 
have figured this out, and so I can deal with this in the future, were 
you saying in your previous post to hit F11 as soon as I see the 
opening web page to stop the WMP version from starting? That might be 
helpful if I ever visit this site again (not likely) but not if I 
stubble on another web site that does the same thing without my 
anticipation or and without warning.


Beyond this specific example, once a video starts, as this one does, 
how to stop it without shutting down? Losing control over the computer 
is my principal concern.


No. I have not created a test profile yet. I am hoping someone knows 
how to defeat an attacking video.


Thanks for your help.


I didn't say that at all about F11.  You said you get a full screen 
video captured my computer so I interpreted that as saying you get the 
video in Full Screen mode.  Hitting F11 is a toggle between full screen 
and normal screen mode.  From the browser, hit F11 and see what happens.


Now reading what you're saying, this is not your problem.  So, you have 
to tell me what you mean by an 'attacking' video?  Yes, on that site 
[and on others], the video plays automatically. Thats the way the site 
was designed and the way wmp works. Unfortunately, as far as I know, 
there is no way to turn off the automatic start of a wmp video without 
hitting the stop button on the video controls.


So, maybe you need to give a little more info about what exactly is your 
problem.




F11 toggles nothing. The video plays full screen.
There are no video controls displayed to hit the stop 
button. If there is a stop button on this (or any other) web 
site and the video autoplays instantaneously, I doubt that I 
would know in time to stop it. In this case, WMP does not 
start in a visible way. The monitor screen just drops to 
black and a few seconds later the video starts.


The questions remains, how to a) stop an instantaneous 
video from running without my explicit action to start it, 
or how to stop such a video during play. All I want is to be 
able to regain control of the computer and not have to wait 
until a video ends or until I shut down the computer.

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Re: How does this work?

2009-02-18 Thread HeavyDuty

Mark Hansen wrote:



I think it's possible the problem you're seeing is the result
of a problem in your profile. This is why the request to try
the page in a test profile.

For example, when I browse to that page, I don't see the same
problem you're seeing. The page seems to work correctly.



OK. I'll try a test profile and see what happens.
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Re: How does this work?

2009-02-18 Thread HeavyDuty

JeffM wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Seamonkey 1.1.14, WinXP Pro SP3

I received an e-mail from a professional organization that
provided a link to a website. 
http://newsletter.swd.ca/link.php?M=98038N=220L=119F=H

When I clicked the link, a full screen video captured my computer.
No way to stop it (without shutting off the computer).
These did not work: Ctrl Break, ctrl+alt+delete,
esc, enter, tab, f1-f8, you name it, I was captive.


The one I'll name is Alt+Tab.
It allows you to scroll thru active Windoze tasks.
Nothing is displayed except the full screen video. alt+tab 
does not show on the screen, so no way of tabbing between 
running programs.

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Re: How does this work?

2009-02-18 Thread HeavyDuty

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 02/18/09 12:44, HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

the one on the right is a flash player and it doesn't run until you 
click on it.  The other one, on the left, is a wmp player and its that 
one that starts right away.


What happens in a test profile?


Thanks Peter,


What happens, happens pretty fast. I do appreciate your 
help. If you have figured this out, and so I can deal with 
this in the future, were you saying in your previous post to 
hit F11 as soon as I see the opening web page to stop the 
WMP version from starting? That might be helpful if I ever 
visit this site again (not likely) but not if I stubble on 
another web site that does the same thing without my 
anticipation or and without warning.


Beyond this specific example, once a video starts, as this 
one does, how to stop it without shutting down? Losing 
control over the computer is my principal concern.


No. I have not created a test profile yet. I am hoping 
someone knows how to defeat an attacking video.


I think it's possible the problem you're seeing is the result
of a problem in your profile. This is why the request to try
the page in a test profile.

For example, when I browse to that page, I don't see the same
problem you're seeing. The page seems to work correctly.

If you try it in a test profile and don't have the problem,
then you can starting looking at what in your profile may
be causing the problem.


Thanks for your help.
I tweaked WMP 11 by unchecking Rub script commands in 
security, and unchecking multicast stream in network.


I created a new TEST profile.
The same thing happens.

I tried this link in IExplorer.
The same phenomenon.

Peter, were you able to stop the video from playing either 
before it started or while it was playing? If so, what did 
you do? Since I have no on-screen controls, I am paralyzed 
until it stops on its own.

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Re: How does this work?

2009-02-18 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:



the one on the right is a flash player and it doesn't run until you 
click on it.  The other one, on the left, is a wmp player and its 
that one that starts right away.


What happens in a test profile?


Thanks Peter,


What happens, happens pretty fast. I do appreciate your help. If you 
have figured this out, and so I can deal with this in the future, 
were you saying in your previous post to hit F11 as soon as I see the 
opening web page to stop the WMP version from starting? That might be 
helpful if I ever visit this site again (not likely) but not if I 
stubble on another web site that does the same thing without my 
anticipation or and without warning.


Beyond this specific example, once a video starts, as this one does, 
how to stop it without shutting down? Losing control over the 
computer is my principal concern.


No. I have not created a test profile yet. I am hoping someone knows 
how to defeat an attacking video.


Thanks for your help.


I didn't say that at all about F11.  You said you get a full screen 
video captured my computer so I interpreted that as saying you get 
the video in Full Screen mode.  Hitting F11 is a toggle between full 
screen and normal screen mode.  From the browser, hit F11 and see what 
happens.


Now reading what you're saying, this is not your problem.  So, you 
have to tell me what you mean by an 'attacking' video?  Yes, on that 
site [and on others], the video plays automatically. Thats the way the 
site was designed and the way wmp works. Unfortunately, as far as I 
know, there is no way to turn off the automatic start of a wmp video 
without hitting the stop button on the video controls.


So, maybe you need to give a little more info about what exactly is 
your problem.




F11 toggles nothing. The video plays full screen.
There are no video controls displayed to hit the stop button. If there 
is a stop button on this (or any other) web site and the video autoplays 
instantaneously, I doubt that I would know in time to stop it. In this 
case, WMP does not start in a visible way. The monitor screen just drops 
to black and a few seconds later the video starts.


The questions remains, how to a) stop an instantaneous video from 
running without my explicit action to start it, or how to stop such a 
video during play. All I want is to be able to regain control of the 
computer and not have to wait until a video ends or until I shut down 
the computer.


lets try it this way.  This is what I see when I visit 
that site: 
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1678/wmpah0.jpg


On the bottom right is a flash vid that won't start 
until I click it.


On the bottom left is a wmp vid that starts 
automatically when I go to that page.  As you can see, 
I have controls on the bottom of the vid to stop, 
start, and so forth.  Is this what you see? If not, 
then post an image somewhere of what you get and we'll 
go from there.


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Re: How does this work?

2009-02-18 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:



the one on the right is a flash player and it doesn't run until 
you click on it.  The other one, on the left, is a wmp player and 
its that one that starts right away.


What happens in a test profile?


Thanks Peter,


What happens, happens pretty fast. I do appreciate your help. If 
you have figured this out, and so I can deal with this in the 
future, were you saying in your previous post to hit F11 as soon as 
I see the opening web page to stop the WMP version from starting? 
That might be helpful if I ever visit this site again (not likely) 
but not if I stubble on another web site that does the same thing 
without my anticipation or and without warning.


Beyond this specific example, once a video starts, as this one 
does, how to stop it without shutting down? Losing control over the 
computer is my principal concern.


No. I have not created a test profile yet. I am hoping someone 
knows how to defeat an attacking video.


Thanks for your help.


I didn't say that at all about F11.  You said you get a full screen 
video captured my computer so I interpreted that as saying you get 
the video in Full Screen mode.  Hitting F11 is a toggle between full 
screen and normal screen mode.  From the browser, hit F11 and see 
what happens.


Now reading what you're saying, this is not your problem.  So, you 
have to tell me what you mean by an 'attacking' video?  Yes, on 
that site [and on others], the video plays automatically. Thats the 
way the site was designed and the way wmp works. Unfortunately, as 
far as I know, there is no way to turn off the automatic start of a 
wmp video without hitting the stop button on the video controls.


So, maybe you need to give a little more info about what exactly is 
your problem.




F11 toggles nothing. The video plays full screen.
There are no video controls displayed to hit the stop button. If 
there is a stop button on this (or any other) web site and the video 
autoplays instantaneously, I doubt that I would know in time to stop 
it. In this case, WMP does not start in a visible way. The monitor 
screen just drops to black and a few seconds later the video starts.


The questions remains, how to a) stop an instantaneous video from 
running without my explicit action to start it, or how to stop such a 
video during play. All I want is to be able to regain control of the 
computer and not have to wait until a video ends or until I shut down 
the computer.


lets try it this way.  This is what I see when I visit that site: 
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1678/wmpah0.jpg


On the bottom right is a flash vid that won't start until I click it.

On the bottom left is a wmp vid that starts automatically when I go to 
that page.  As you can see, I have controls on the bottom of the vid 
to stop, start, and so forth.  Is this what you see? If not, then post 
an image somewhere of what you get and we'll go from there.



Yes Peter,

That is what I see for less than two seconds. Not enough time for me to 
get the cursor to that (sub)menu bar and hit stop. Certainly not enough 
time to even know what or where to look if I am a first time visitor. Of 
course, by now, I am not a first timer.
Nonetheless, once this video starts, I cannot stop it. This is NOT about 
this particular sales pitch on this site. I am not intentionally going 
back to this site again, but I have concern about this happening again 
on another site. That is what I am asking help about. How can I 
stop/escape this type of behavior (elsewhere) once it starts? I want to 
be able to take back control of my computer. How to do this? That is the 
question.


well for a first timer, I'm sure that if they'd scroll 
down, then I'm sure they'd see where this voice was 
coming from, and which video was playing.  Then if they 
click on the video controls, they could stop it.  Or if 
they right click on it, then it would bring up the 
advanced controls and they can stop it from there.


Why you can't figure out that some sort of video is 
playing, and which video is playing, I have no idea. 
Why you are unable to click on the vid stop button, 
again I have no idea.


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Re: How does this work?

2009-02-18 Thread HeavyDuty

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:



the one on the right is a flash player and it doesn't run until 
you click on it.  The other one, on the left, is a wmp player and 
its that one that starts right away.


What happens in a test profile?


Thanks Peter,


What happens, happens pretty fast. I do appreciate your help. If 
you have figured this out, and so I can deal with this in the 
future, were you saying in your previous post to hit F11 as soon 
as I see the opening web page to stop the WMP version from 
starting? That might be helpful if I ever visit this site again 
(not likely) but not if I stubble on another web site that does 
the same thing without my anticipation or and without warning.


Beyond this specific example, once a video starts, as this one 
does, how to stop it without shutting down? Losing control over 
the computer is my principal concern.


No. I have not created a test profile yet. I am hoping someone 
knows how to defeat an attacking video.


Thanks for your help.


I didn't say that at all about F11.  You said you get a full 
screen video captured my computer so I interpreted that as saying 
you get the video in Full Screen mode.  Hitting F11 is a toggle 
between full screen and normal screen mode.  From the browser, hit 
F11 and see what happens.


Now reading what you're saying, this is not your problem.  So, you 
have to tell me what you mean by an 'attacking' video?  Yes, on 
that site [and on others], the video plays automatically. Thats the 
way the site was designed and the way wmp works. Unfortunately, as 
far as I know, there is no way to turn off the automatic start of a 
wmp video without hitting the stop button on the video controls.


So, maybe you need to give a little more info about what exactly is 
your problem.




F11 toggles nothing. The video plays full screen.
There are no video controls displayed to hit the stop button. If 
there is a stop button on this (or any other) web site and the video 
autoplays instantaneously, I doubt that I would know in time to stop 
it. In this case, WMP does not start in a visible way. The monitor 
screen just drops to black and a few seconds later the video starts.


The questions remains, how to a) stop an instantaneous video from 
running without my explicit action to start it, or how to stop such 
a video during play. All I want is to be able to regain control of 
the computer and not have to wait until a video ends or until I shut 
down the computer.


lets try it this way.  This is what I see when I visit that site: 
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1678/wmpah0.jpg


On the bottom right is a flash vid that won't start until I click it.

On the bottom left is a wmp vid that starts automatically when I go 
to that page.  As you can see, I have controls on the bottom of the 
vid to stop, start, and so forth.  Is this what you see? If not, then 
post an image somewhere of what you get and we'll go from there.



Yes Peter,

That is what I see for less than two seconds. Not enough time for me 
to get the cursor to that (sub)menu bar and hit stop. Certainly not 
enough time to even know what or where to look if I am a first time 
visitor. Of course, by now, I am not a first timer.
Nonetheless, once this video starts, I cannot stop it. This is NOT 
about this particular sales pitch on this site. I am not intentionally 
going back to this site again, but I have concern about this happening 
again on another site. That is what I am asking help about. How can I 
stop/escape this type of behavior (elsewhere) once it starts? I want 
to be able to take back control of my computer. How to do this? That 
is the question.


well for a first timer, I'm sure that if they'd scroll down, then I'm 
sure they'd see where this voice was coming from, and which video was 
playing.  Then if they click on the video controls, they could stop it.  
Or if they right click on it, then it would bring up the advanced 
controls and they can stop it from there.


Why you can't figure out that some sort of video is playing, and which 
video is playing, I have no idea. Why you are unable to click on the vid 
stop button, again I have no idea.



Peter,
The reason you have no idea is because you will not accept 
what I have described. I used another computer and saw what 
you must be seeing. On that other computer I can F11 to 
toggle image size, and I can click on the left screen where 
this e image emanates. I can right click and stop it. But, 
NOT on my main computer. As I have repeatedly said, this 
video image emerges full screen (and not from the small left 
screen) with no way of controlling it at all. Since I have 
the same experience with IExplorer. WMPlayer is messed up.I 
have removed WMPlayer. As a result, the left hand screen 
image on this horrible web site is empty, 

Re: How does this work?

2009-02-18 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:



the one on the right is a flash player and it doesn't run until 
you click on it.  The other one, on the left, is a wmp player 
and its that one that starts right away.


What happens in a test profile?


Thanks Peter,


What happens, happens pretty fast. I do appreciate your help. If 
you have figured this out, and so I can deal with this in the 
future, were you saying in your previous post to hit F11 as soon 
as I see the opening web page to stop the WMP version from 
starting? That might be helpful if I ever visit this site again 
(not likely) but not if I stubble on another web site that does 
the same thing without my anticipation or and without warning.


Beyond this specific example, once a video starts, as this one 
does, how to stop it without shutting down? Losing control over 
the computer is my principal concern.


No. I have not created a test profile yet. I am hoping someone 
knows how to defeat an attacking video.


Thanks for your help.


I didn't say that at all about F11.  You said you get a full 
screen video captured my computer so I interpreted that as saying 
you get the video in Full Screen mode.  Hitting F11 is a toggle 
between full screen and normal screen mode.  From the browser, hit 
F11 and see what happens.


Now reading what you're saying, this is not your problem.  So, you 
have to tell me what you mean by an 'attacking' video?  Yes, on 
that site [and on others], the video plays automatically. Thats 
the way the site was designed and the way wmp works. 
Unfortunately, as far as I know, there is no way to turn off the 
automatic start of a wmp video without hitting the stop button on 
the video controls.


So, maybe you need to give a little more info about what exactly 
is your problem.




F11 toggles nothing. The video plays full screen.
There are no video controls displayed to hit the stop button. If 
there is a stop button on this (or any other) web site and the 
video autoplays instantaneously, I doubt that I would know in time 
to stop it. In this case, WMP does not start in a visible way. The 
monitor screen just drops to black and a few seconds later the 
video starts.


The questions remains, how to a) stop an instantaneous video from 
running without my explicit action to start it, or how to stop such 
a video during play. All I want is to be able to regain control of 
the computer and not have to wait until a video ends or until I 
shut down the computer.


lets try it this way.  This is what I see when I visit that site: 
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1678/wmpah0.jpg


On the bottom right is a flash vid that won't start until I click it.

On the bottom left is a wmp vid that starts automatically when I go 
to that page.  As you can see, I have controls on the bottom of the 
vid to stop, start, and so forth.  Is this what you see? If not, 
then post an image somewhere of what you get and we'll go from there.



Yes Peter,

That is what I see for less than two seconds. Not enough time for me 
to get the cursor to that (sub)menu bar and hit stop. Certainly not 
enough time to even know what or where to look if I am a first time 
visitor. Of course, by now, I am not a first timer.
Nonetheless, once this video starts, I cannot stop it. This is NOT 
about this particular sales pitch on this site. I am not 
intentionally going back to this site again, but I have concern about 
this happening again on another site. That is what I am asking help 
about. How can I stop/escape this type of behavior (elsewhere) once 
it starts? I want to be able to take back control of my computer. How 
to do this? That is the question.


well for a first timer, I'm sure that if they'd scroll down, then I'm 
sure they'd see where this voice was coming from, and which video was 
playing.  Then if they click on the video controls, they could stop 
it.  Or if they right click on it, then it would bring up the advanced 
controls and they can stop it from there.


Why you can't figure out that some sort of video is playing, and which 
video is playing, I have no idea. Why you are unable to click on the 
vid stop button, again I have no idea.



Peter,
The reason you have no idea is because you will not accept what I have 
described. I used another computer and saw what you must be seeing. On 
that other computer I can F11 to toggle image size, and I can click on 
the left screen where this e image emanates. I can right click and stop 
it. But, NOT on my main computer. As I have repeatedly said, this video 
image emerges full screen (and not from the small left screen) with no 
way of controlling it at all. Since I have the same experience with 
IExplorer. WMPlayer is messed up.I have removed WMPlayer. As a result, 
the left hand screen image on this horrible web 

How does this work?

2009-02-17 Thread HeavyDuty

Seamonkey 1.1.14, WinXP Pro SP3

I received an e-mail from a professional organization that 
provided a link to a website.  
http://newsletter.swd.ca/link.php?M=98038N=220L=119F=H


When I clicked the link, a full screen video captured my 
computer. No way to stop it (without shutting off the 
computer). These did not work: Ctrl Break, ctrl+alt+delete, 
esc, enter, tab, f1-f8, you name it, I was captive.
How do I stop this type of behavior (besides never clocking 
on any link)? How do I prevent the take over of my computer 
when browsing or at least escape from it? Obviously AV and 
firewalls did not work, nor spybot/teatimer.

Suggestions?
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Re: How does this work?

2009-02-17 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

HeavyDuty wrote:

Seamonkey 1.1.14, WinXP Pro SP3

I received an e-mail from a professional organization that provided a 
link to a website.  
http://newsletter.swd.ca/link.php?M=98038N=220L=119F=H


When I clicked the link, a full screen video captured my computer. No 
way to stop it (without shutting off the computer). These did not work: 
Ctrl Break, ctrl+alt+delete, esc, enter, tab, f1-f8, you name it, I was 
captive.
How do I stop this type of behavior (besides never clocking on any 
link)? How do I prevent the take over of my computer when browsing or at 
least escape from it? Obviously AV and firewalls did not work, nor 
spybot/teatimer.

Suggestions?


I got no full screen video [which] captured my 
computer.  SM opened in normal mode, and the built in 
wmp player played.  Is that what you're talking about? 
When your browser opened, it opened in full screen, 
with no menus, etc? If so, then you didn't go all the 
way with the F keys.  Its F11 to change it back.


Also, you might want to check your javascript settings: 
Edit, Preferences, Advanced, Scripts  Plug-ins, and 
uncheck Move or resize existing windows, and Raise or 
lower windows.


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Re: How does this work?

2009-02-17 Thread HeavyDuty

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Seamonkey 1.1.14, WinXP Pro SP3

I received an e-mail from a professional organization that provided a 
link to a website.  
http://newsletter.swd.ca/link.php?M=98038N=220L=119F=H


When I clicked the link, a full screen video captured my computer. No 
way to stop it (without shutting off the computer). These did not 
work: Ctrl Break, ctrl+alt+delete, esc, enter, tab, f1-f8, you name 
it, I was captive.
How do I stop this type of behavior (besides never clocking on any 
link)? How do I prevent the take over of my computer when browsing or 
at least escape from it? Obviously AV and firewalls did not work, nor 
spybot/teatimer.

Suggestions?


I got no full screen video [which] captured my computer.  SM opened in 
normal mode, and the built in wmp player played.  Is that what you're 
talking about? When your browser opened, it opened in full screen, with 
no menus, etc? If so, then you didn't go all the way with the F keys.  
Its F11 to change it back.


Also, you might want to check your javascript settings: Edit, 
Preferences, Advanced, Scripts  Plug-ins, and uncheck Move or resize 
existing windows, and Raise or lower windows.



Thanks Peter,
Tomorrow I will apply your suggestions and see what happens. 
And, yes, I did not get to f11.

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