Re: Keep having to delete Inbox.msf
NoOp wrote: On 03/29/2010 12:23 PM, Dick Hoffman wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: ... Running out of disk or memory? I doubt it, Bill. There's 40G of hard drive free and the system has 1 G of RAM. That's not a lot of RAM, but should be enough. After reading my morning mail this copy is 600MB, so depending on what you read and browse it can get big. The only times I've seen a problem such as you describe was when the temp space was low, even when other filesystems had space. Windows is usually configured to let all disk be used for any reason, so 40GB is plenty. I used to get this message frequently -- every day at some point, and I would rebuild the index and compact -- with both 1.1.* and 2.0.*, until relatively recently when I took a lot of older messages out of my Inbox (I probably had 10K), compacted, and rebuilt the index. Then the problem disappeared. It seemed to have something to do with the size of the Inbox file. Bob That's something I can try. Currently our Inbox has 163 messages going back to last June. That doesn't sound like a lot but I'll archive the ones from June and see if that makes a difference. Dick I doubt that is your issue; I run mirrored systems w/384, 512, 784, 1G, and 3G of ram (all mirrored w/the same SeaMonkey's) and all run just fine with multiple accounts/inboxes. The inbox for my primary account is 271Mb w/2,729 messages (not counting the subfolders etc). The 1G machine (this one) is the one that is my primary work machine and used daily. Mind you that the machines with lower memory are indeed slower, but all work just fine. So, were I you I'd look elsewhere... perhaps your file system is corrupt - try defragmenting your hard drive, run memory tests, etc., etc. Actually, the system has 3G of RAM, forgot about an upgrade a while ago. Tried to defrag the hard drive and was advised that a CHKDSK was scheduled. Re-booted to let CHKDSK run and then ran a defrag which said I didn't need to defrag the volume. The CHKDSK didn't seem to find anything (I'm not very familiar with what it tells you) but the fact that it needed to run is probably a clue that not all is well with the drive. Need to run some hard drive diagnostics, I guess. Dick ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Keep having to delete Inbox.msf
Interviewed by CNN on 29/3/2010 10:40, Bill Davidsen told the world: That's not a lot of RAM, but should be enough. After reading my morning mail this copy is 600MB, so depending on what you read and browse it can get big. The only times I've seen a problem such as you describe was when the temp space was low, even when other filesystems had space. Windows is usually configured to let all disk be used for any reason, so 40GB is plenty. OTOH, even if there's plenty of space on disk, if there is A LOT of old temp files, Windows will sometimes get wonky. Well, wonkier than usual. Cleaning up the temp folder tends to help. A good freeware tool for that is CCleaner (http://www.ccleaner.com) -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... BOFH excuse #405: Sysadmins unavailable because they are in a meeting talking about why they are unavailable so much. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.0.4 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Keep having to delete Inbox.msf
Dick Hoffman wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Dick Hoffman wrote: I'm using SM 2.0.3 under Windows XP-SP3. Recently I've started getting a message to the effect that SM experienced a problem truncating the Inbox after moving a message to another folder and that I might have to shut down SM and delete Inbox.msf. This happens about once a week and it's annoying. Any idea what's causing this and what I can do to stop it from happening? (This is my biggest problem with SM 2 - all in all a terrific product.) Running out of disk or memory? I doubt it, Bill. There's 40G of hard drive free and the system has 1 G of RAM. That's not a lot of RAM, but should be enough. After reading my morning mail this copy is 600MB, so depending on what you read and browse it can get big. The only times I've seen a problem such as you describe was when the temp space was low, even when other filesystems had space. Windows is usually configured to let all disk be used for any reason, so 40GB is plenty. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Keep having to delete Inbox.msf
Bill Davidsen wrote: Dick Hoffman wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Dick Hoffman wrote: I'm using SM 2.0.3 under Windows XP-SP3. Recently I've started getting a message to the effect that SM experienced a problem truncating the Inbox after moving a message to another folder and that I might have to shut down SM and delete Inbox.msf. This happens about once a week and it's annoying. Any idea what's causing this and what I can do to stop it from happening? (This is my biggest problem with SM 2 - all in all a terrific product.) Running out of disk or memory? I doubt it, Bill. There's 40G of hard drive free and the system has 1 G of RAM. That's not a lot of RAM, but should be enough. After reading my morning mail this copy is 600MB, so depending on what you read and browse it can get big. The only times I've seen a problem such as you describe was when the temp space was low, even when other filesystems had space. Windows is usually configured to let all disk be used for any reason, so 40GB is plenty. I used to get this message frequently -- every day at some point, and I would rebuild the index and compact -- with both 1.1.* and 2.0.*, until relatively recently when I took a lot of older messages out of my Inbox (I probably had 10K), compacted, and rebuilt the index. Then the problem disappeared. It seemed to have something to do with the size of the Inbox file. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Keep having to delete Inbox.msf
Bob Fleischer wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Dick Hoffman wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Dick Hoffman wrote: I'm using SM 2.0.3 under Windows XP-SP3. Recently I've started getting a message to the effect that SM experienced a problem truncating the Inbox after moving a message to another folder and that I might have to shut down SM and delete Inbox.msf. This happens about once a week and it's annoying. Any idea what's causing this and what I can do to stop it from happening? (This is my biggest problem with SM 2 - all in all a terrific product.) Running out of disk or memory? I doubt it, Bill. There's 40G of hard drive free and the system has 1 G of RAM. That's not a lot of RAM, but should be enough. After reading my morning mail this copy is 600MB, so depending on what you read and browse it can get big. The only times I've seen a problem such as you describe was when the temp space was low, even when other filesystems had space. Windows is usually configured to let all disk be used for any reason, so 40GB is plenty. I used to get this message frequently -- every day at some point, and I would rebuild the index and compact -- with both 1.1.* and 2.0.*, until relatively recently when I took a lot of older messages out of my Inbox (I probably had 10K), compacted, and rebuilt the index. Then the problem disappeared. It seemed to have something to do with the size of the Inbox file. Bob That's something I can try. Currently our Inbox has 163 messages going back to last June. That doesn't sound like a lot but I'll archive the ones from June and see if that makes a difference. Dick ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Keep having to delete Inbox.msf
On 03/29/2010 12:23 PM, Dick Hoffman wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: ... Running out of disk or memory? I doubt it, Bill. There's 40G of hard drive free and the system has 1 G of RAM. That's not a lot of RAM, but should be enough. After reading my morning mail this copy is 600MB, so depending on what you read and browse it can get big. The only times I've seen a problem such as you describe was when the temp space was low, even when other filesystems had space. Windows is usually configured to let all disk be used for any reason, so 40GB is plenty. I used to get this message frequently -- every day at some point, and I would rebuild the index and compact -- with both 1.1.* and 2.0.*, until relatively recently when I took a lot of older messages out of my Inbox (I probably had 10K), compacted, and rebuilt the index. Then the problem disappeared. It seemed to have something to do with the size of the Inbox file. Bob That's something I can try. Currently our Inbox has 163 messages going back to last June. That doesn't sound like a lot but I'll archive the ones from June and see if that makes a difference. Dick I doubt that is your issue; I run mirrored systems w/384, 512, 784, 1G, and 3G of ram (all mirrored w/the same SeaMonkey's) and all run just fine with multiple accounts/inboxes. The inbox for my primary account is 271Mb w/2,729 messages (not counting the subfolders etc). The 1G machine (this one) is the one that is my primary work machine and used daily. Mind you that the machines with lower memory are indeed slower, but all work just fine. So, were I you I'd look elsewhere... perhaps your file system is corrupt - try defragmenting your hard drive, run memory tests, etc., etc. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Keep having to delete Inbox.msf
Bill Davidsen wrote: Dick Hoffman wrote: I'm using SM 2.0.3 under Windows XP-SP3. Recently I've started getting a message to the effect that SM experienced a problem truncating the Inbox after moving a message to another folder and that I might have to shut down SM and delete Inbox.msf. This happens about once a week and it's annoying. Any idea what's causing this and what I can do to stop it from happening? (This is my biggest problem with SM 2 - all in all a terrific product.) Running out of disk or memory? I doubt it, Bill. There's 40G of hard drive free and the system has 1 G of RAM. Dick ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Keep having to delete Inbox.msf
Dick Hoffman wrote: I'm using SM 2.0.3 under Windows XP-SP3. Recently I've started getting a message to the effect that SM experienced a problem truncating the Inbox after moving a message to another folder and that I might have to shut down SM and delete Inbox.msf. This happens about once a week and it's annoying. Any idea what's causing this and what I can do to stop it from happening? (This is my biggest problem with SM 2 - all in all a terrific product.) Running out of disk or memory? -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Keep having to delete Inbox.msf
Dick Hoffman a écrit : I'm using SM 2.0.3 under Windows XP-SP3. Recently I've started getting a message to the effect that SM experienced a problem truncating the Inbox after moving a message to another folder and that I might have to shut down SM and delete Inbox.msf. This happens about once a week and it's annoying. Any idea what's causing this and what I can do to stop it from happening? (This is my biggest problem with SM 2 - all in all a terrific product.) Did you actually delete Inbox.msf? That file is autogenerated, so deleting it is totally risk-free. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Keep having to delete Inbox.msf
S. Beaulieu wrote: Dick Hoffman a écrit : I'm using SM 2.0.3 under Windows XP-SP3. Recently I've started getting a message to the effect that SM experienced a problem truncating the Inbox after moving a message to another folder and that I might have to shut down SM and delete Inbox.msf. This happens about once a week and it's annoying. Any idea what's causing this and what I can do to stop it from happening? (This is my biggest problem with SM 2 - all in all a terrific product.) Did you actually delete Inbox.msf? That file is autogenerated, so deleting it is totally risk-free. S. Yes, I've deleted Inbox.msf each time I've gotten the message about the truncation problem, at least three times now. And yes, each time SM has regenerated it. Dick ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Keep having to delete Inbox.msf
Dick Hoffman a écrit : Yes, I've deleted Inbox.msf each time I've gotten the message about the truncation problem, at least three times now. And yes, each time SM has regenerated it. Have you compacted your inbox? S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Keep having to delete Inbox.msf
S. Beaulieu wrote: Dick Hoffman a écrit : Yes, I've deleted Inbox.msf each time I've gotten the message about the truncation problem, at least three times now. And yes, each time SM has regenerated it. Have you compacted your inbox? S. Yes I have. I do that once a week before I back up the SM profile. Some additional info regarding this problem: my wife tells me she's seen it quite a few times, and that when it happens the email filters that route messages to all the folders she's set up stop working temporarily. That is, messages that should have gone to a different folder remain in the Inbox, but messages that come in later do get filtered correctly. (I don't have any filtering set up for mail I receive.) Dick ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox.msf
David L. Ross wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Terry R. wrote: The date and time was Monday, March 30, 2009 3:36:19 PM, and on a whim, Bill Spikowski pounded out on the keyboard: My Inbox.msf file is about 3KB but my Inbox file is over 1 GB. I keep NO messages in the inbox; whatever comes in gets filtered to other folders. What's in the 1GB file? I have a similar situation with the Drafts file -- over 1 GB, but there's nothing in it Hi Bill, Right click on the folder and select, Compact. When message come in and are removed, unless you configure an auto-compact, the old messages still remain in the folder. They're just marked as deleted until you compact. I prefer doing it manually rather than having the program do it. Me too. Don't forget to mention that cleaning a 1GB will take a certain time Actually a likely long UNCERTAIN amount of time. Depends on just how many deleted emails are in it and the speed of your computer and disk drive. Give it a few minutes. Or more. David All this is correct. But the fastest way to correct this situation, once you have ascertained no emails remain in that Inbox file, is to delete it, *after* closing SM. It will be recreated next time you launch SM. This applies to drafts to. Of course, do not do that on folders you have created. They would not get recreated! -- John Doue ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox.msf
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Bill Spikowski wrote: My Inbox.msf file is about 3KB but my Inbox file is over 1 GB. I keep NO messages in the inbox; whatever comes in gets filtered to other folders. What's in the 1GB file? I have a similar situation with the Drafts file -- over 1 GB, but there's nothing in it the *.msf files are just index files. They tell the program which way messages are sorted, which ones are flagged, labelled, etc. The files which the extension such as inbox, drafts, etc, are the ones that contain your messages. You can open those files using any text editor. But if its that large, then it might take a long time opening. I forgot to add: when you delete messages, the message is deleted from the folder, but it still remains in the file. This is incase you want the messages back, there is a way to retrieve them. However, once in a while, you need to clean up your files, and get rid of those left over messages, and the way to do that is to compact your folders [under File]. Thanks everyone -- apparently at some recent time I must have unchecked the compact automatically box -- I had always let compacting happen automatically so I never had a big buildup of wasted space before! That was exactly the problem. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox.msf
The date and time was Tuesday, March 31, 2009 5:42:11 AM, and on a whim, Bill Spikowski pounded out on the keyboard: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Bill Spikowski wrote: My Inbox.msf file is about 3KB but my Inbox file is over 1 GB. I keep NO messages in the inbox; whatever comes in gets filtered to other folders. What's in the 1GB file? I have a similar situation with the Drafts file -- over 1 GB, but there's nothing in it the *.msf files are just index files. They tell the program which way messages are sorted, which ones are flagged, labelled, etc. The files which the extension such as inbox, drafts, etc, are the ones that contain your messages. You can open those files using any text editor. But if its that large, then it might take a long time opening. I forgot to add: when you delete messages, the message is deleted from the folder, but it still remains in the file. This is incase you want the messages back, there is a way to retrieve them. However, once in a while, you need to clean up your files, and get rid of those left over messages, and the way to do that is to compact your folders [under File]. Thanks everyone -- apparently at some recent time I must have unchecked the compact automatically box -- I had always let compacting happen automatically so I never had a big buildup of wasted space before! That was exactly the problem. You're welcome Bill. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Inbox.msf
My Inbox.msf file is about 3KB but my Inbox file is over 1 GB. I keep NO messages in the inbox; whatever comes in gets filtered to other folders. What's in the 1GB file? I have a similar situation with the Drafts file -- over 1 GB, but there's nothing in it ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox.msf
Bill Spikowski wrote: My Inbox.msf file is about 3KB but my Inbox file is over 1 GB. I keep NO messages in the inbox; whatever comes in gets filtered to other folders. What's in the 1GB file? I have a similar situation with the Drafts file -- over 1 GB, but there's nothing in it the *.msf files are just index files. They tell the program which way messages are sorted, which ones are flagged, labelled, etc. The files which the extension such as inbox, drafts, etc, are the ones that contain your messages. You can open those files using any text editor. But if its that large, then it might take a long time opening. -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
