Re: Odd helper apps behavior after reinstall

2009-08-22 Thread Martin Freitag
Dick Baker schrieb:
 All true, and I, coincidentally, ran across that same Acrobat/Acrobat 
 Reader issue a while back and solved it the same way you did.
 
 BUT that's not the case here.  The only program I installed on the 
 rebuilt PC that has claimed the .mp3  .wav  .mpg association is Windows 
 Media Player.  I'd really like to fix this SM anomaly, since its internal 
 player has no utility--no playback controls and, in the case of .mp3 
 files, no display of the standard mp3 tags.

Afaik here is no internal player in SM. Are you sure you haven'T
installed VLC with browser-plugin or something similar?
I never saw SM1.1.x playing a video without a plugin...
regards

Martin


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Re: Odd helper apps behavior after reinstall

2009-08-21 Thread Dick Baker
David E. Ross nob...@nowhere.not wrote in
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 On 8/19/2009 5:17 PM, Dick Baker wrote:
 In rebuilding after C: drive crash (FYI: three times in 25 year ain't
 bad, I suppose, twice caused by misbehaving software, once by
 lightning strike), SM 1.1.17 (Win XP) is misbehaving, in that it
 insists on opening online WAV and MP3 audio files and mpg/mpeg video
 files internally, rather than using Windows Media Player, which is
 my default app for all video  audio files.
 
 Before the rebuild, it properly invoked WMP for those filetypes, as
 does the same version of SM on my similarly set-up notebook computer.
 
 Why the difference?  My notebook shows those three file types in
 helper apps with the selection open it using the default
 application (which is WMP), but if I try to install them in the new
 PC install in helper apps, I get Warning: SM can handle this type
 internally...  
 
 The MozillaZine Knowledge Base says (or at least implies), that only
 very basic filetypes (standard web graphics formats and text files)
 are handled inernally [discussing adding new MIME types in Helper
 Apps]:  
The actions you add will not affect MIME types that are handled 
 internally, which include certain MIME types such as image/jpeg or 
 text/plain [3] and all MIME types that are handled by plugins [4].
 Before adding a new action for such MIME types, a Warning dialog
 similar to the following will be displayed:  [the warning about
 handling this type internally].
 
 Any suggestions on how I can force SM to use WMP for those
 audio/video file types?
 
 In some cases, this is not a browser issue.  Instead, it relates to
 the sequence in which the applications were installed.
 
 For example, I have both Acrobat (the writer) and Adobe Reader
 installed.  For a long time, PDF files on the Web would open in the
 writer and not the reader.  In setting up a replacement PC, I
 installed Acrobat first and then Adobe Reader.  At that time, the
 versions of SeaMonkey, Acrobat, and Adobe Reader were all the same as
 on the old, replaced PC.  The problem went away.  I experiemented by
 removing Acrobat and Adobe Reader and then reinstalled them,
 installing Adobe Reader first and then Acrobat.  The problem
 reappeared.  I removed just Adobe Reader and then reinstalled it.  The
 problem went away. 
 
 Thus, in many cases, the last application installed is the one used.
 
All true, and I, coincidentally, ran across that same Acrobat/Acrobat 
Reader issue a while back and solved it the same way you did.

BUT that's not the case here.  The only program I installed on the 
rebuilt PC that has claimed the .mp3  .wav  .mpg association is Windows 
Media Player.  I'd really like to fix this SM anomaly, since its internal 
player has no utility--no playback controls and, in the case of .mp3 
files, no display of the standard mp3 tags.


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Odd helper apps behavior after reinstall

2009-08-19 Thread Dick Baker
In rebuilding after C: drive crash (FYI: three times in 25 year ain't bad, 
I suppose, twice caused by misbehaving software, once by lightning strike), 
SM 1.1.17 (Win XP) is misbehaving, in that it insists on opening online 
WAV and MP3 audio files and mpg/mpeg video files internally, rather than 
using Windows Media Player, which is my default app for all video  audio 
files.

Before the rebuild, it properly invoked WMP for those filetypes, as does 
the same version of SM on my similarly set-up notebook computer.

Why the difference?  My notebook shows those three file types in helper 
apps with the selection open it using the default application (which is 
WMP), but if I try to install them in the new PC install in helper apps, I 
get Warning: SM can handle this type internally...  

The MozillaZine Knowledge Base says (or at least implies), that only very 
basic filetypes (standard web graphics formats and text files) are handled 
inernally [discussing adding new MIME types in Helper Apps]:  
   The actions you add will not affect MIME types that are handled 
internally, which include certain MIME types such as image/jpeg or 
text/plain [3] and all MIME types that are handled by plugins [4]. Before 
adding a new action for such MIME types, a Warning dialog similar to the 
following will be displayed:  [the warning about handling this type 
internally].

Any suggestions on how I can force SM to use WMP for those audio/video file 
types?
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Re: Odd helper apps behavior after reinstall

2009-08-19 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/19/2009 5:17 PM, Dick Baker wrote:
 In rebuilding after C: drive crash (FYI: three times in 25 year ain't bad, 
 I suppose, twice caused by misbehaving software, once by lightning strike), 
 SM 1.1.17 (Win XP) is misbehaving, in that it insists on opening online 
 WAV and MP3 audio files and mpg/mpeg video files internally, rather than 
 using Windows Media Player, which is my default app for all video  audio 
 files.
 
 Before the rebuild, it properly invoked WMP for those filetypes, as does 
 the same version of SM on my similarly set-up notebook computer.
 
 Why the difference?  My notebook shows those three file types in helper 
 apps with the selection open it using the default application (which is 
 WMP), but if I try to install them in the new PC install in helper apps, I 
 get Warning: SM can handle this type internally...  
 
 The MozillaZine Knowledge Base says (or at least implies), that only very 
 basic filetypes (standard web graphics formats and text files) are handled 
 inernally [discussing adding new MIME types in Helper Apps]:  
The actions you add will not affect MIME types that are handled 
 internally, which include certain MIME types such as image/jpeg or 
 text/plain [3] and all MIME types that are handled by plugins [4]. Before 
 adding a new action for such MIME types, a Warning dialog similar to the 
 following will be displayed:  [the warning about handling this type 
 internally].
 
 Any suggestions on how I can force SM to use WMP for those audio/video file 
 types?

In some cases, this is not a browser issue.  Instead, it relates to the
sequence in which the applications were installed.

For example, I have both Acrobat (the writer) and Adobe Reader
installed.  For a long time, PDF files on the Web would open in the
writer and not the reader.  In setting up a replacement PC, I installed
Acrobat first and then Adobe Reader.  At that time, the versions of
SeaMonkey, Acrobat, and Adobe Reader were all the same as on the old,
replaced PC.  The problem went away.  I experiemented by removing
Acrobat and Adobe Reader and then reinstalled them, installing Adobe
Reader first and then Acrobat.  The problem reappeared.  I removed just
Adobe Reader and then reinstalled it.  The problem went away.

Thus, in many cases, the last application installed is the one used.

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Re: Odd helper apps behavior after reinstall

2009-08-19 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/19/2009 5:17 PM, Dick Baker wrote:
In rebuilding after C: drive crash (FYI: three times in 25 year ain't bad, 
I suppose, twice caused by misbehaving software, once by lightning strike), 
SM 1.1.17 (Win XP) is misbehaving, in that it insists on opening online 
WAV and MP3 audio files and mpg/mpeg video files internally, rather than 
using Windows Media Player, which is my default app for all video  audio 
files.


Before the rebuild, it properly invoked WMP for those filetypes, as does 
the same version of SM on my similarly set-up notebook computer.


Why the difference?  My notebook shows those three file types in helper 
apps with the selection open it using the default application (which is 
WMP), but if I try to install them in the new PC install in helper apps, I 
get Warning: SM can handle this type internally...  

The MozillaZine Knowledge Base says (or at least implies), that only very 
basic filetypes (standard web graphics formats and text files) are handled 
inernally [discussing adding new MIME types in Helper Apps]:  
   The actions you add will not affect MIME types that are handled 
internally, which include certain MIME types such as image/jpeg or 
text/plain [3] and all MIME types that are handled by plugins [4]. Before 
adding a new action for such MIME types, a Warning dialog similar to the 
following will be displayed:  [the warning about handling this type 
internally].


Any suggestions on how I can force SM to use WMP for those audio/video file 
types?


In some cases, this is not a browser issue.  Instead, it relates to the
sequence in which the applications were installed.

For example, I have both Acrobat (the writer) and Adobe Reader
installed.  For a long time, PDF files on the Web would open in the
writer and not the reader.  In setting up a replacement PC, I installed
Acrobat first and then Adobe Reader.  At that time, the versions of
SeaMonkey, Acrobat, and Adobe Reader were all the same as on the old,
replaced PC.  The problem went away.  I experiemented by removing
Acrobat and Adobe Reader and then reinstalled them, installing Adobe
Reader first and then Acrobat.  The problem reappeared.  I removed just
Adobe Reader and then reinstalled it.  The problem went away.

Thus, in many cases, the last application installed is the one used.


Depends on the choices you make during installation. If you don't tell 
the Reader to steal the setting (who opens PDF files? I do!), or 
rather, if you tell it not to, the writer will continue to open PDFs. 
The same goes for other file types. The QuickTime installer lets you 
specify its file types so that you don't disturb existing settings, or 
so that you purposely modify them.


The last time I installed Acrobat Reader on a system that already had 
the full Acrobat program, it prompted me to decide whether the reader 
should be the default app for PDFs or not. It should've prompted you as 
well, but if you response was do as you think best, of course it 
would've chosen itself.


The programs I have no respect for are the ones (like the Micro$oft 
series) that steal settings without asking. It's REALLY annoying that 
every time I run Office Update or update my Office programs through 
Micro$oft Update, it steals my default email and/or browser setting, and 
I have to set it back to SeaMonkey. Do these idiots really think they're 
converting anyone this way? Or is this just their petty way of getting 
revenge on those of us who have enough of a brain to make choices?


If anyone can tell me which file to lock (make read-only) so M$ can't 
steal my email/browser settings, I would be eternally grateful.


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