Re: Odd helper apps behavior after reinstall
Dick Baker schrieb: All true, and I, coincidentally, ran across that same Acrobat/Acrobat Reader issue a while back and solved it the same way you did. BUT that's not the case here. The only program I installed on the rebuilt PC that has claimed the .mp3 .wav .mpg association is Windows Media Player. I'd really like to fix this SM anomaly, since its internal player has no utility--no playback controls and, in the case of .mp3 files, no display of the standard mp3 tags. Afaik here is no internal player in SM. Are you sure you haven'T installed VLC with browser-plugin or something similar? I never saw SM1.1.x playing a video without a plugin... regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Odd helper apps behavior after reinstall
David E. Ross nob...@nowhere.not wrote in news:n7mdnrbp0qthphhxnz2dnuvz_o2dn...@mozilla.org: On 8/19/2009 5:17 PM, Dick Baker wrote: In rebuilding after C: drive crash (FYI: three times in 25 year ain't bad, I suppose, twice caused by misbehaving software, once by lightning strike), SM 1.1.17 (Win XP) is misbehaving, in that it insists on opening online WAV and MP3 audio files and mpg/mpeg video files internally, rather than using Windows Media Player, which is my default app for all video audio files. Before the rebuild, it properly invoked WMP for those filetypes, as does the same version of SM on my similarly set-up notebook computer. Why the difference? My notebook shows those three file types in helper apps with the selection open it using the default application (which is WMP), but if I try to install them in the new PC install in helper apps, I get Warning: SM can handle this type internally... The MozillaZine Knowledge Base says (or at least implies), that only very basic filetypes (standard web graphics formats and text files) are handled inernally [discussing adding new MIME types in Helper Apps]: The actions you add will not affect MIME types that are handled internally, which include certain MIME types such as image/jpeg or text/plain [3] and all MIME types that are handled by plugins [4]. Before adding a new action for such MIME types, a Warning dialog similar to the following will be displayed: [the warning about handling this type internally]. Any suggestions on how I can force SM to use WMP for those audio/video file types? In some cases, this is not a browser issue. Instead, it relates to the sequence in which the applications were installed. For example, I have both Acrobat (the writer) and Adobe Reader installed. For a long time, PDF files on the Web would open in the writer and not the reader. In setting up a replacement PC, I installed Acrobat first and then Adobe Reader. At that time, the versions of SeaMonkey, Acrobat, and Adobe Reader were all the same as on the old, replaced PC. The problem went away. I experiemented by removing Acrobat and Adobe Reader and then reinstalled them, installing Adobe Reader first and then Acrobat. The problem reappeared. I removed just Adobe Reader and then reinstalled it. The problem went away. Thus, in many cases, the last application installed is the one used. All true, and I, coincidentally, ran across that same Acrobat/Acrobat Reader issue a while back and solved it the same way you did. BUT that's not the case here. The only program I installed on the rebuilt PC that has claimed the .mp3 .wav .mpg association is Windows Media Player. I'd really like to fix this SM anomaly, since its internal player has no utility--no playback controls and, in the case of .mp3 files, no display of the standard mp3 tags. -- Dick Baker (contact via http://goon.org/contact.php) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Odd helper apps behavior after reinstall
In rebuilding after C: drive crash (FYI: three times in 25 year ain't bad, I suppose, twice caused by misbehaving software, once by lightning strike), SM 1.1.17 (Win XP) is misbehaving, in that it insists on opening online WAV and MP3 audio files and mpg/mpeg video files internally, rather than using Windows Media Player, which is my default app for all video audio files. Before the rebuild, it properly invoked WMP for those filetypes, as does the same version of SM on my similarly set-up notebook computer. Why the difference? My notebook shows those three file types in helper apps with the selection open it using the default application (which is WMP), but if I try to install them in the new PC install in helper apps, I get Warning: SM can handle this type internally... The MozillaZine Knowledge Base says (or at least implies), that only very basic filetypes (standard web graphics formats and text files) are handled inernally [discussing adding new MIME types in Helper Apps]: The actions you add will not affect MIME types that are handled internally, which include certain MIME types such as image/jpeg or text/plain [3] and all MIME types that are handled by plugins [4]. Before adding a new action for such MIME types, a Warning dialog similar to the following will be displayed: [the warning about handling this type internally]. Any suggestions on how I can force SM to use WMP for those audio/video file types? -- Dick Baker (contact via http://goon.org/contact.php) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Odd helper apps behavior after reinstall
On 8/19/2009 5:17 PM, Dick Baker wrote: In rebuilding after C: drive crash (FYI: three times in 25 year ain't bad, I suppose, twice caused by misbehaving software, once by lightning strike), SM 1.1.17 (Win XP) is misbehaving, in that it insists on opening online WAV and MP3 audio files and mpg/mpeg video files internally, rather than using Windows Media Player, which is my default app for all video audio files. Before the rebuild, it properly invoked WMP for those filetypes, as does the same version of SM on my similarly set-up notebook computer. Why the difference? My notebook shows those three file types in helper apps with the selection open it using the default application (which is WMP), but if I try to install them in the new PC install in helper apps, I get Warning: SM can handle this type internally... The MozillaZine Knowledge Base says (or at least implies), that only very basic filetypes (standard web graphics formats and text files) are handled inernally [discussing adding new MIME types in Helper Apps]: The actions you add will not affect MIME types that are handled internally, which include certain MIME types such as image/jpeg or text/plain [3] and all MIME types that are handled by plugins [4]. Before adding a new action for such MIME types, a Warning dialog similar to the following will be displayed: [the warning about handling this type internally]. Any suggestions on how I can force SM to use WMP for those audio/video file types? In some cases, this is not a browser issue. Instead, it relates to the sequence in which the applications were installed. For example, I have both Acrobat (the writer) and Adobe Reader installed. For a long time, PDF files on the Web would open in the writer and not the reader. In setting up a replacement PC, I installed Acrobat first and then Adobe Reader. At that time, the versions of SeaMonkey, Acrobat, and Adobe Reader were all the same as on the old, replaced PC. The problem went away. I experiemented by removing Acrobat and Adobe Reader and then reinstalled them, installing Adobe Reader first and then Acrobat. The problem reappeared. I removed just Adobe Reader and then reinstalled it. The problem went away. Thus, in many cases, the last application installed is the one used. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Odd helper apps behavior after reinstall
David E. Ross wrote: On 8/19/2009 5:17 PM, Dick Baker wrote: In rebuilding after C: drive crash (FYI: three times in 25 year ain't bad, I suppose, twice caused by misbehaving software, once by lightning strike), SM 1.1.17 (Win XP) is misbehaving, in that it insists on opening online WAV and MP3 audio files and mpg/mpeg video files internally, rather than using Windows Media Player, which is my default app for all video audio files. Before the rebuild, it properly invoked WMP for those filetypes, as does the same version of SM on my similarly set-up notebook computer. Why the difference? My notebook shows those three file types in helper apps with the selection open it using the default application (which is WMP), but if I try to install them in the new PC install in helper apps, I get Warning: SM can handle this type internally... The MozillaZine Knowledge Base says (or at least implies), that only very basic filetypes (standard web graphics formats and text files) are handled inernally [discussing adding new MIME types in Helper Apps]: The actions you add will not affect MIME types that are handled internally, which include certain MIME types such as image/jpeg or text/plain [3] and all MIME types that are handled by plugins [4]. Before adding a new action for such MIME types, a Warning dialog similar to the following will be displayed: [the warning about handling this type internally]. Any suggestions on how I can force SM to use WMP for those audio/video file types? In some cases, this is not a browser issue. Instead, it relates to the sequence in which the applications were installed. For example, I have both Acrobat (the writer) and Adobe Reader installed. For a long time, PDF files on the Web would open in the writer and not the reader. In setting up a replacement PC, I installed Acrobat first and then Adobe Reader. At that time, the versions of SeaMonkey, Acrobat, and Adobe Reader were all the same as on the old, replaced PC. The problem went away. I experiemented by removing Acrobat and Adobe Reader and then reinstalled them, installing Adobe Reader first and then Acrobat. The problem reappeared. I removed just Adobe Reader and then reinstalled it. The problem went away. Thus, in many cases, the last application installed is the one used. Depends on the choices you make during installation. If you don't tell the Reader to steal the setting (who opens PDF files? I do!), or rather, if you tell it not to, the writer will continue to open PDFs. The same goes for other file types. The QuickTime installer lets you specify its file types so that you don't disturb existing settings, or so that you purposely modify them. The last time I installed Acrobat Reader on a system that already had the full Acrobat program, it prompted me to decide whether the reader should be the default app for PDFs or not. It should've prompted you as well, but if you response was do as you think best, of course it would've chosen itself. The programs I have no respect for are the ones (like the Micro$oft series) that steal settings without asking. It's REALLY annoying that every time I run Office Update or update my Office programs through Micro$oft Update, it steals my default email and/or browser setting, and I have to set it back to SeaMonkey. Do these idiots really think they're converting anyone this way? Or is this just their petty way of getting revenge on those of us who have enough of a brain to make choices? If anyone can tell me which file to lock (make read-only) so M$ can't steal my email/browser settings, I would be eternally grateful. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey