Re: 1.1.14 crashes on Cagle BLOG

2008-12-26 Thread Bill Davidsen

NoOp wrote:

On 12/23/2008 04:54 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 12/21/2008 11:42 AM, robert.ga...@att.net wrote:



My guess is that the issues you may be experiencing are due to the
dialup. It's quite possible to lose bits on a dialup link, especially if
you are on a noisy link and have a slow processor w/limited memory. Were
I you, I'd look into getting DSL  given you are already on ATT, check
out http://attsignup.com/att_dsl.htm to see if you can get a basic
connection at the lowest rate/cost. Makes a huge difference + you can
use your phone while on line.

I think Mr Gault for testing, and I guess you could be right about the dial-up 
being part of his issue. But the original problem was replicated on two 
machines, and two DSL connections, a 768/768 static IP business line and a 
3.5Mbit/768 home line.


I just think that badness in the page should not cause badness in the browser. 
Since 2.0a3 never showed the issue I think that strongly suggested the issue 
will be fixed.




Well I reckon that rules out dialup issues. Don't know otherwise as I've
had no issues with the page on either WinXP or linux.


And thank you for testing as well, and anyone else I forgot. The page appears to 
have changed, I guess that's good.


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Re: 1.1.14 crashes on Cagle BLOG

2008-12-23 Thread NoOp
On 12/23/2008 04:54 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 12/21/2008 11:42 AM, robert.ga...@att.net wrote:
 
 
 My guess is that the issues you may be experiencing are due to the
 dialup. It's quite possible to lose bits on a dialup link, especially if
 you are on a noisy link and have a slow processor w/limited memory. Were
 I you, I'd look into getting DSL  given you are already on ATT, check
 out http://attsignup.com/att_dsl.htm to see if you can get a basic
 connection at the lowest rate/cost. Makes a huge difference + you can
 use your phone while on line.
 
 I think Mr Gault for testing, and I guess you could be right about the 
 dial-up 
 being part of his issue. But the original problem was replicated on two 
 machines, and two DSL connections, a 768/768 static IP business line and a 
 3.5Mbit/768 home line.
 
 I just think that badness in the page should not cause badness in the 
 browser. 
 Since 2.0a3 never showed the issue I think that strongly suggested the issue 
 will be fixed.
 

Well I reckon that rules out dialup issues. Don't know otherwise as I've
had no issues with the page on either WinXP or linux.
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Re: 1.1.14 crashes on Cagle BLOG

2008-12-21 Thread robert . gault

John Doue wrote:

robert.ga...@att.net wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:
Just drops dead on http://cagle.com/news/BLOG trying to look at his 
latest cartoon for the French.


Week-old SM 2.0a3 was able to open the same page just fine.

Tested under Fedora FC9 and FC10, using the version from Mozilla 
download, not the Fedora package (which has other issues with font 
sizes).




Are you referring to the image The Archetypal American? If so it 
works OK on my system, 1.1.14 browser in WinXP SP2 Home. The image is 
cut off at the knees but if saved, looks the save in any graphics 
program.


I would not say it displays ok with knees cut-off. I have the whole 
picture with 1.1.13




For what it's worth, today the entire cartoon including feet was 
displayed without any changes to Seamonkey or my system. At the same 
time, the image was cut off losing the lower half of the shoes with 
Internet Explorer.


If there is a problem here, it does not seem to be a browser problem but 
a site problem. I.E. believes the gif is 333x400 and 44844 bytes while 
Seamonkey has the same 333x400 but has a size of 52151 bytes.
A fresh Reload of this page in Seamonkey displayed the same cut off 
image seen in I.E. but now Seamonkey believes the image has 46311 bytes.


I'm on dial-up and this page takes very long to load. It looks to me 
that there is no problem with Seamonkey or I.E. for that matter but with 
the site and time sharing on the many different urls. The source for the 
gif is http://cagle.com/news/BLOG/BLOGgifs/AmericanArchitype.gif

a different page from the main source
 http://cagle.com/news/BLOG/
When I enter the url of the gif, it loads perfectly.

If there were a bug in Seamonkey, I'd expect the original url to load 
the same wrong way each time, not change at random. As I.E. behaves as 
Seamonkey in this regard, that supports a site problem.

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Re: 1.1.14 crashes on Cagle BLOG

2008-12-20 Thread BeeNeR
On or about 12/20/2008 1:48 AM, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo typed the
following:

 S N I P 

 
 Therefore, it was the OPs fault for not stating that within the body of
 the message instead of doing it within the subject line.  Not everyone
 reads subject lines [or the title line]
 

Hmm,  I usually read the subject line to determine if I would be
interested in reading the body.  Cuts down on the amount of time I spend
on the computer.

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Re: 1.1.14 crashes on Cagle BLOG

2008-12-20 Thread Mark Hansen
On 12/19/08 22:48, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
 Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
 Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
 Ray K wrote:
 Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Just drops dead on http://cagle.com/news/BLOG trying to look at his 
 latest cartoon for the French.

 Week-old SM 2.0a3 was able to open the same page just fine.

 Tested under Fedora FC9 and FC10, using the version from Mozilla 
 download, not the Fedora package (which has other issues with font 
 sizes).

 I just visited the link with no problems. Scrolling worked properly, 
 and when I click a link and then Back, the scrolling bar returned to 
 its previous position. (See my post of 8:29am 12/19/08.) And none of 
 the problems I described in today's 8:49am post occurred, either.

 Maybe your problem has something to do with some of your Preferences 
 settings. I have no idea which might be involved.

 I'm using W2K, SP4, and about 70 hotfixes.

 Ray



 he's using SM2 while you're on SM1

 
 
 Uh, Peter, read what has been written.
 
 The original poster says he has a problem on 1.1.14  and NOT on 2.0a.3
 So the problem occurs (according to the OP) on the 1x version, NOT the 
 2x version.
 
 sorry to say, but the OP put 1.1.4 within the subject 
 line and not within the body of the message.  I was 
 reading the body, not the subject.  Without reading the 
 subject line, I interpreted it as with this line:
 
 Week-old SM 2.0a3 was able to open the same page just 
 fine
 
 Therefore, my conclusion was is worked in an older 
 version of 2.0a3 but not in a current version of it.
 
 Therefore, it was the OPs fault for not stating that 
 within the body of the message instead of doing it 
 within the subject line.  Not everyone reads subject 
 lines [or the title line]
 

I think it's just you...
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Re: 1.1.14 crashes on Cagle BLOG

2008-12-20 Thread Bill Davidsen

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Therefore, it was the OPs fault for not stating that within the body of 
the message instead of doing it within the subject line.  Not everyone 
reads subject lines [or the title line]



It's never *your* fault, is it?

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Re: 1.1.14 crashes on Cagle BLOG

2008-12-20 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Therefore, it was the OPs fault for not stating that within the body 
of the message instead of doing it within the subject line.  Not 
everyone reads subject lines [or the title line]



It's never *your* fault, is it?



in this case, no!

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Re: 1.1.14 crashes on Cagle BLOG

2008-12-20 Thread Brian Mailman

BeeNeR wrote:

On or about 12/20/2008 1:48 AM, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo typed
the following:

 S N I P 



Therefore, it was the OPs fault for not stating that within the
body of the message instead of doing it within the subject line.
Not everyone reads subject lines [or the title line]



Hmm,  I usually read the subject line to determine if I would be 
interested in reading the body.  Cuts down on the amount of time I

spend on the computer.


Yes, that's the purpose of a Subject line.  To indicate the contents of 
the message.


If someone intentionally isn't reading all the available information, he 
only has himself to blame if he gets it wrong.


B/

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Re: 1.1.14 crashes on Cagle BLOG

2008-12-20 Thread NoOp
On 12/19/2008 12:36 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Just drops dead on http://cagle.com/news/BLOG trying to look at his latest 
 cartoon for the French.
 
 Week-old SM 2.0a3 was able to open the same page just fine.
 
 Tested under Fedora FC9 and FC10, using the version from Mozilla download, 
 not 
 the Fedora package (which has other issues with font sizes).
 

Works for me: 1.1.14 and 2.03apre (standard moz verions for both) -
running on Ubuntu linux 8.04.1


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Re: 1.1.14 crashes on Cagle BLOG

2008-12-20 Thread robert . gault

Bill Davidsen wrote:
Just drops dead on http://cagle.com/news/BLOG trying to look at his 
latest cartoon for the French.


Week-old SM 2.0a3 was able to open the same page just fine.

Tested under Fedora FC9 and FC10, using the version from Mozilla 
download, not the Fedora package (which has other issues with font sizes).




Are you referring to the image The Archetypal American? If so it works 
OK on my system, 1.1.14 browser in WinXP SP2 Home. The image is cut off 
at the knees but if saved, looks the save in any graphics program.

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Re: 1.1.14 crashes on Cagle BLOG

2008-12-20 Thread Bill Davidsen

NoOp wrote:

On 12/19/2008 12:36 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Just drops dead on http://cagle.com/news/BLOG trying to look at his latest 
cartoon for the French.


Week-old SM 2.0a3 was able to open the same page just fine.

Tested under Fedora FC9 and FC10, using the version from Mozilla download, not 
the Fedora package (which has other issues with font sizes).




Works for me: 1.1.14 and 2.03apre (standard moz verions for both) -
running on Ubuntu linux 8.04.1


Thanks for testing, this MAY be limited to Fedora with SElinux enabled. Although 
I don't see anything in the log, just a note from GNOME saying the application died.


The Fedora released 1.1.13 works fine, that's the one which has all the headers 
(File Edit View...) in 6pt type. Bah.


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Re: 1.1.14 crashes on Cagle BLOG

2008-12-19 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Ray K wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:
Just drops dead on http://cagle.com/news/BLOG trying to look at his 
latest cartoon for the French.


Week-old SM 2.0a3 was able to open the same page just fine.

Tested under Fedora FC9 and FC10, using the version from Mozilla 
download, not the Fedora package (which has other issues with font 
sizes).


I just visited the link with no problems. Scrolling worked properly, and 
when I click a link and then Back, the scrolling bar returned to its 
previous position. (See my post of 8:29am 12/19/08.) And none of the 
problems I described in today's 8:49am post occurred, either.


Maybe your problem has something to do with some of your Preferences 
settings. I have no idea which might be involved.


I'm using W2K, SP4, and about 70 hotfixes.

Ray




he's using SM2 while you're on SM1

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Re: 1.1.14 crashes on Cagle BLOG

2008-12-19 Thread Moz Champion (Dan)

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Ray K wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:
Just drops dead on http://cagle.com/news/BLOG trying to look at his 
latest cartoon for the French.


Week-old SM 2.0a3 was able to open the same page just fine.

Tested under Fedora FC9 and FC10, using the version from Mozilla 
download, not the Fedora package (which has other issues with font 
sizes).


I just visited the link with no problems. Scrolling worked properly, 
and when I click a link and then Back, the scrolling bar returned to 
its previous position. (See my post of 8:29am 12/19/08.) And none of 
the problems I described in today's 8:49am post occurred, either.


Maybe your problem has something to do with some of your Preferences 
settings. I have no idea which might be involved.


I'm using W2K, SP4, and about 70 hotfixes.

Ray




he's using SM2 while you're on SM1




Uh, Peter, read what has been written.

The original poster says he has a problem on 1.1.14  and NOT on 2.0a.3
So the problem occurs (according to the OP) on the 1x version, NOT the 
2x version.

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Re: 1.1.14 crashes on Cagle BLOG

2008-12-19 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Ray K wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:
Just drops dead on http://cagle.com/news/BLOG trying to look at his 
latest cartoon for the French.


Week-old SM 2.0a3 was able to open the same page just fine.

Tested under Fedora FC9 and FC10, using the version from Mozilla 
download, not the Fedora package (which has other issues with font 
sizes).


I just visited the link with no problems. Scrolling worked properly, 
and when I click a link and then Back, the scrolling bar returned to 
its previous position. (See my post of 8:29am 12/19/08.) And none of 
the problems I described in today's 8:49am post occurred, either.


Maybe your problem has something to do with some of your Preferences 
settings. I have no idea which might be involved.


I'm using W2K, SP4, and about 70 hotfixes.

Ray




he's using SM2 while you're on SM1




Uh, Peter, read what has been written.

The original poster says he has a problem on 1.1.14  and NOT on 2.0a.3
So the problem occurs (according to the OP) on the 1x version, NOT the 
2x version.


sorry to say, but the OP put 1.1.4 within the subject 
line and not within the body of the message.  I was 
reading the body, not the subject.  Without reading the 
subject line, I interpreted it as with this line:


Week-old SM 2.0a3 was able to open the same page just 
fine


Therefore, my conclusion was is worked in an older 
version of 2.0a3 but not in a current version of it.


Therefore, it was the OPs fault for not stating that 
within the body of the message instead of doing it 
within the subject line.  Not everyone reads subject 
lines [or the title line]


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