Re: Facebook problems
I also am having the same problem, and it started when I upgraded from seamonkey 1.1.17 to 1.1.18 AO Black Ken Rudolph wrote: Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the What's on your mind box on Facebook (but not the comment box where it works fine), the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down a few lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with Firefox. And if I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't happen, no problems with typing entry in either browser. This has only started happening the past couple of days. Any fix for this? Anybody else having this problem? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Facebook problems
aoblack wrote: I also am having the same problem, and it started when I upgraded from seamonkey 1.1.17 to 1.1.18 AO Black Ken Rudolph wrote: Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the What's on your mind box on Facebook (but not the comment box where it works fine), the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down a few lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with Firefox. And if I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't happen, no problems with typing entry in either browser. This has only started happening the past couple of days. Any fix for this? Anybody else having this problem? Same here, using Vista and 1.1.118 SeaMonkey. Lee (in Florida) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Facebook problems
Lee wrote: aoblack wrote: I also am having the same problem, and it started when I upgraded from seamonkey 1.1.17 to 1.1.18 AO Black Ken Rudolph wrote: Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the What's on your mind box on Facebook (but not the comment box where it works fine), the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down a few lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with Firefox. And if I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't happen, no problems with typing entry in either browser. This has only started happening the past couple of days. Any fix for this? Anybody else having this problem? Same here, using Vista and 1.1.118 SeaMonkey. Lee (in Florida) This was discussed last week in this forum. This solution was offered...and it worked for me: Try spoofing as Firefox. Create a string preference (on the about:config page), for example: general.useragent.extra.spoofox with value of: Firefox/2.0.0.24 -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Facebook problems
On 9/15/2009 2:04 PM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:56:42 -0500, /George Carden/: Ken Rudolph wrote: Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the What's on your mind box on Facebook (but not the comment box where it works fine), the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down a few lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with Firefox. And if I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't happen, no problems with typing entry in either browser. This has only started happening the past couple of days. Any fix for this? Anybody else having this problem? Same here, Ken! I thought it was just me. No idea about a fix. Try spoofing as Firefox. Create a string preference (on the about:config page), for example: general.useragent.extra.spoofox with value of: Firefox/2.0.0.24 PLEASE: Any one who does this should also submit a bug report against the offending Web site. Otherwise you are encouraging such faulty behavior. If you don't know how to submit a bug report and don't want to establish a Bugzilla account, do the following: 1. Go to the Web site in question. 2. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Help Report Broken Web Site]. 3. Follow the instructions. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Facebook problems
David E. Ross wrote: PLEASE: Any one who does this should also submit a bug report against the offending Web site. Otherwise you are encouraging such faulty behavior. If you don't know how to submit a bug report and don't want to establish a Bugzilla account, do the following: 1. Go to the Web site in question. 2. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Help Report Broken Web Site]. 3. Follow the instructions. Here's the thing. I've been a loyal mozilla suite user since Netscape Navigator 0.8, and I'm not about to change my loyalty. But it does seem that lately there has been an exponential increase of buggy sites that work with Firefox 3.5 but not SeaMonkey 1.1.x. I'm not a beta kind of user, and I'm hoping that the release version of SM 2.0 will someday, hopefully soon, solve these problems...but in the meantime reporting all these broken sites just seems like a useless exercise in tilting at windmills. I've done it in the past and nothing ever improves. I've had to conclude that there's something inherently wrong with SM 1.x in the current web environment. It certainly isn't anywhere near as robust as Firefox's current browser (which takes forever to load and just isn't a *suite*...so I don't *want* to use it as my primary browser.) --Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Facebook problems
On 9/17/2009 8:45 AM, Ken Rudolph wrote: David E. Ross wrote: PLEASE: Any one who does this should also submit a bug report against the offending Web site. Otherwise you are encouraging such faulty behavior. If you don't know how to submit a bug report and don't want to establish a Bugzilla account, do the following: 1. Go to the Web site in question. 2. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Help Report Broken Web Site]. 3. Follow the instructions. Here's the thing. I've been a loyal mozilla suite user since Netscape Navigator 0.8, and I'm not about to change my loyalty. But it does seem that lately there has been an exponential increase of buggy sites that work with Firefox 3.5 but not SeaMonkey 1.1.x. I'm not a beta kind of user, and I'm hoping that the release version of SM 2.0 will someday, hopefully soon, solve these problems...but in the meantime reporting all these broken sites just seems like a useless exercise in tilting at windmills. I've done it in the past and nothing ever improves. I've had to conclude that there's something inherently wrong with SM 1.x in the current web environment. It certainly isn't anywhere near as robust as Firefox's current browser (which takes forever to load and just isn't a *suite*...so I don't *want* to use it as my primary browser.) --Ken Rudolph Very many of the problems are caused by Web developers who do not understand how to create pages that are readily displayed by any browser. Instead, they create pages for only one browser; then they create pages for only one other browser. They sniff for what browser you are using by looking at the user agent (UA) string. Unfortunately, when looking at the UA string, they are looking for Firefox when they should be looking for Gecko. The Gecko rendering engine is common to Firefox, SeaMonkey, Camino, Flock, Galeon, K-Meleon, and others. It is Gecko that makes the request for the HTML or XHTML files, and it is Gecko that renders the display you see in your browser window. By sniffing for Firefox, those Web sites exclude all Gecko browsers except Firefox without any good reason for doing so. Such sites will still be problematical for SeaMonkey 2 even though that browser will use the latest Gecko engine. There is an effort within the Mozilla community to get the owners of such Web sites to correct how they sniff for browsers. To bring a browser to the attention of those involved in this effort, it is requested that bug reports be submitted. Of course, the real solution is that Web sites should not sniff at all. It is possible to create a good, interesting, useful Web page that renders appropriately for all modern browsers. If you spoof Firefox from a SeaMonkey browser, I strongly suggest that the UA string you use look something like Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18, NOT Firefox/2.0.0.20 Otherwise, those who monitor and maintain Web sites will never know that SeaMonkey browsers visited their sites. Generally, they still won't know. However, you can then communicate and tell them what you have done and that it works quite well, thus demonstrating that Gecko is indeed Gecko and that sniffing for Firefox is wrong. See https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Sardisson/Gecko_is_Gecko. You might consider referring Web masters of problematical sites to this URI. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Facebook problems
Sorry I also forgot to say I am on a Mac OS X 10.4.11 Thanks On Sep 16, 6:45 am, Ken Rudolph ke...@nospamkenru.net wrote: George Carden wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:56:42 -0500, /George Carden/: Ken Rudolph wrote: Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the What's on your mind box on Facebook (but not the comment box where it works fine), the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down a few lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with Firefox. And if I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't happen, no problems with typing entry in either browser. This has only started happening the past couple of days. Any fix for this? Anybody else having this problem? Same here, Ken! I thought it was just me. No idea about a fix. Try spoofing as Firefox. Create a string preference (on the about:config page), for example: general.useragent.extra.spoofox with value of: Firefox/2.0.0.24 Stan! That worked! Thanks so much. Yeah, it worked for me, too. Not only that, but it solved another nagging problem where my bank's bill pay page refused to accept the Seamonkey browser and totally hanged. I always had to remember every time to click on the User Agent Switcher in the Tools menu and set it to IE 6.0 or Firefox 2.0 before accessing the bill pay page in order to get to the page. Now I don't have to! I'm not sure how or why this works; but it does...and I thank you! --Ken ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Facebook problems
Mark Hansen wrote: It works because the web site developer is sniffing for Firefox, instead of Gecko. Even sniffing for Gecko is bad. Web developers should sniff for the presence of the actual features they are using. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Facebook problems
On 15 sep, 18:04, Stanimir Stamenkov s7a...@netscape.net wrote: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:56:42 -0500, /George Carden/: Ken Rudolph wrote: Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the What's on your mind box on Facebook (but not the comment box where it works fine), the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down a few lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with Firefox. And if I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't happen, no problems with typing entry in either browser. This has only started happening the past couple of days. Any fix for this? Anybody else having this problem? Same here, Ken! I thought it was just me. No idea about a fix. Try spoofing as Firefox. Create a string preference (on the about:config page), for example: general.useragent.extra.spoofox with value of: Firefox/2.0.0.24 -- Stanimir the same problem but with K-Meleon Browser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Facebook problems
On 15 sep, 18:04, Stanimir Stamenkov s7a...@netscape.net wrote: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:56:42 -0500, /George Carden/: Ken Rudolph wrote: Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the What's on your mind box on Facebook (but not the comment box where it works fine), the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down a few lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with Firefox. And if I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't happen, no problems with typing entry in either browser. This has only started happening the past couple of days. Any fix for this? Anybody else having this problem? Same here, Ken! I thought it was just me. No idea about a fix. Try spoofing as Firefox. Create a string preference (on the about:config page), for example: general.useragent.extra.spoofox with value of: Firefox/2.0.0.24 -- Stanimir Thanks Stan, fixet problem in my K-meleon, only in K-meleon acces into preferences no touch about:config an more block flash style opera push button for activate flash or no, excellent idea for seamonkey or Titan Firefox consumer ram, best regards.god luck ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Facebook problems
clashton wrote: On Sep 15, 5:04 pm, Stanimir Stamenkov s7a...@netscape.net wrote: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:56:42 -0500, /George Carden/: Ken Rudolph wrote: Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the What's on your mind box onFacebook(but not the comment box where it works fine), the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down a few lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with Firefox. And if I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't happen, no problems with typing entry in either browser. This has only started happening the past couple of days. Any fix for this? Anybody else having this problem? Same here, Ken! I thought it was just me. No idea about a fix. Try spoofing as Firefox. Create a string preference (on the about:config page), for example: general.useragent.extra.spoofox with value of: Firefox/2.0.0.24 -- Stanimir This worked to some extent, but it seems I can type just see two lines of text in the box now. The text box does not expand to show all the typed text. Anyone else have this problem/know how to fix it? Actually, I have noticed this happening for a while. I'm pretty sure that if I continue to type past the two lines that the message is stored in the system and gets sent when share is clicked on. But, as you say, the box doesn't expand and nothing past line two is visible using SeaMonkey. I just tested it in Firefox and was able to write more than two lines and the box did expand. So the Firefox spoof works only up to a point (which is a great improvement in any case). Anybody else have any ideas? By the way, this *doesn't* happen in the comment boxes, which expand just fine. --Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Facebook problems
Ken Rudolph wrote: Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the What's on your mind box on Facebook (but not the comment box where it works fine), the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down a few lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with Firefox. And if I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't happen, no problems with typing entry in either browser. This has only started happening the past couple of days. Any fix for this? Anybody else having this problem? --Ken Rudolph Same here, Ken! I thought it was just me. No idea about a fix. -George ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Facebook problems
Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:56:42 -0500, /George Carden/: Ken Rudolph wrote: Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the What's on your mind box on Facebook (but not the comment box where it works fine), the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down a few lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with Firefox. And if I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't happen, no problems with typing entry in either browser. This has only started happening the past couple of days. Any fix for this? Anybody else having this problem? Same here, Ken! I thought it was just me. No idea about a fix. Try spoofing as Firefox. Create a string preference (on the about:config page), for example: general.useragent.extra.spoofox with value of: Firefox/2.0.0.24 -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Facebook problems
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:56:42 -0500, /George Carden/: Ken Rudolph wrote: Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the What's on your mind box on Facebook (but not the comment box where it works fine), the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down a few lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with Firefox. And if I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't happen, no problems with typing entry in either browser. This has only started happening the past couple of days. Any fix for this? Anybody else having this problem? Same here, Ken! I thought it was just me. No idea about a fix. Try spoofing as Firefox. Create a string preference (on the about:config page), for example: general.useragent.extra.spoofox with value of: Firefox/2.0.0.24 Stan! That worked! Thanks so much. -George ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Facebook problems
George Carden wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:56:42 -0500, /George Carden/: Ken Rudolph wrote: Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the What's on your mind box on Facebook (but not the comment box where it works fine), the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down a few lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with Firefox. And if I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't happen, no problems with typing entry in either browser. This has only started happening the past couple of days. Any fix for this? Anybody else having this problem? Same here, Ken! I thought it was just me. No idea about a fix. Try spoofing as Firefox. Create a string preference (on the about:config page), for example: general.useragent.extra.spoofox with value of: Firefox/2.0.0.24 Stan! That worked! Thanks so much. Yeah, it worked for me, too. Not only that, but it solved another nagging problem where my bank's bill pay page refused to accept the Seamonkey browser and totally hanged. I always had to remember every time to click on the User Agent Switcher in the Tools menu and set it to IE 6.0 or Firefox 2.0 before accessing the bill pay page in order to get to the page. Now I don't have to! I'm not sure how or why this works; but it does...and I thank you! --Ken ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
