Re: Freezing in SM2

2009-10-27 Thread Phillip Jones

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/26/2009 4:45 AM, David Wilkinson wrote:

/snip/


RSS doesn't exist in Mac version of SM 1.1.8 never has. you could 
add an

extension but didn't like it. Even in FF I don't use it.



Actually, Forumzilla worked very well on 1.1.x. Generally the RSS
reader native to SM 2.0 Mail/News is better, but Forumzilla didn't
freeze 1.1.x quite the way RSS does in 2.0.

Again though, I suspect that my system of placing data on an external
drive may have something to do with that.

Lee


I tried another other than the one you suggest. never saw anything
interest, and caused more problems in fact I had to remove all the
chrome items the re-download then install what I had.
Can you disable the RSS in SM2??



No need to disable it, just don't use it.

Lee
People here are complaining that the RSS is the reason from Freezing 
problems while it updates.


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Re: Freezing in SM2

2009-10-27 Thread Philip Chee
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:21:15 -0400, Phillip Jones wrote:

 No need to disable it, just don't use it.
 
 Lee

 People here are complaining that the RSS is the reason from Freezing 
 problems while it updates.

Look at this logically. If you don't subscribe to any RSS feeds there
won't be any for SeaMonkey to freeze on.

Phil

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Re: Freezing in SM2

2009-10-26 Thread Leonidas Jones

David Wilkinson wrote:

Using XP, I have for some time been plagued by freezes in SM1. The
application becomes unresponsive, and all the SM windows in Task Manager
show Not responding. After a while (30 seconds perhaps) it comes back
to life.

But now I am saying the same thing in SM2 (on a different XP machine).
It may be related to mail/news, because I have not seen it happen when I
have only browser windows open.

Does anybody else see this?



Yes, the whole program freezes while RSS feeds are being updated.  Do 
you have RSS feeds set up in Mail/News?


Lee
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Re: Freezing in SM2

2009-10-26 Thread David Wilkinson

Leonidas Jones wrote:

David Wilkinson wrote:

Using XP, I have for some time been plagued by freezes in SM1. The
application becomes unresponsive, and all the SM windows in Task Manager
show Not responding. After a while (30 seconds perhaps) it comes back
to life.

But now I am saying the same thing in SM2 (on a different XP machine).
It may be related to mail/news, because I have not seen it happen when I
have only browser windows open.

Does anybody else see this?



Yes, the whole program freezes while RSS feeds are being updated.  Do 
you have RSS feeds set up in Mail/News?


No, not yet. But I have a lot of newsgroups.

I thought SM2 was supposed to have better isolation between different 
pages/features, so that problems with one page/feature would not disable the 
whole application.


Anyway, this is not acceptable. How can SM2 be designed this way? Will it be 
fixed?

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Re: Freezing in SM2

2009-10-26 Thread Leonidas Jones

David Wilkinson wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

David Wilkinson wrote:

/snip/




Yes, the whole program freezes while RSS feeds are being updated. Do
you have RSS feeds set up in Mail/News?


No, not yet. But I have a lot of newsgroups.

I thought SM2 was supposed to have better isolation between different
pages/features, so that problems with one page/feature would not disable
the whole application.

Anyway, this is not acceptable. How can SM2 be designed this way? Will
it be fixed?



Well, the freezing I am seeing is purely related to RSS, so its probably 
not the same.  In fact, I had been attributing the problem to my non 
standard profile setup, where the mail/news/rss data is stored on an 
external drive.


Do you have your account set to poll the servers for new messages at the 
same time?  If so, that may be the cause.


Lee
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Re: Freezing in SM2

2009-10-26 Thread David Wilkinson

Leonidas Jones wrote:

No, not yet. But I have a lot of newsgroups.

I thought SM2 was supposed to have better isolation between different
pages/features, so that problems with one page/feature would not disable
the whole application.

Anyway, this is not acceptable. How can SM2 be designed this way? Will
it be fixed?



Well, the freezing I am seeing is purely related to RSS, so its probably 
not the same.  In fact, I had been attributing the problem to my non 
standard profile setup, where the mail/news/rss data is stored on an 
external drive.


Do you have your account set to poll the servers for new messages at the 
same time?  If so, that may be the cause.


I don't have my newsgroups poll automatically. I do have two IMAP email accounts 
that update every 10 minutes.


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Re: Freezing in SM2

2009-10-26 Thread Rob Steinmetz
I am seeing something similar.Can't figute out what is causing it. It 
seems to be related to getting mail, but I have all of my mail accounts 
set to get mail only when asked.


David Wilkinson wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

David Wilkinson wrote:

Using XP, I have for some time been plagued by freezes in SM1. The
application becomes unresponsive, and all the SM windows in Task Manager
show Not responding. After a while (30 seconds perhaps) it comes back
to life.

But now I am saying the same thing in SM2 (on a different XP machine).
It may be related to mail/news, because I have not seen it happen when I
have only browser windows open.

Does anybody else see this?



Yes, the whole program freezes while RSS feeds are being updated. Do
you have RSS feeds set up in Mail/News?


No, not yet. But I have a lot of newsgroups.

I thought SM2 was supposed to have better isolation between different
pages/features, so that problems with one page/feature would not disable
the whole application.

Anyway, this is not acceptable. How can SM2 be designed this way? Will
it be fixed?



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Re: Freezing in SM2

2009-10-26 Thread Phillip Jones

David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/26/2009 4:45 AM, David Wilkinson wrote:
Using XP, I have for some time been plagued by freezes in SM1. The application 
becomes unresponsive, and all the SM windows in Task Manager show Not 
responding. After a while (30 seconds perhaps) it comes back to life.


But now I am saying the same thing in SM2 (on a different XP machine). It may be 
related to mail/news, because I have not seen it happen when I have only browser 
windows open.


Does anybody else see this?



Currently, I have SeaMonkey 1.1.18.  I did a custom install without
mail-news.  I do not bother with RSS.

I see the freeze whenever a page contains JavaScript that causes
additional scripts to download and then execute.  I especially see it
when such a chain of scripts involves a final display that is a PDF
document in my browser window. but I also occasionally see it when the
chain of scripts does not involve PDF.

Because of this, I used the PrefBar extension to create a JavaScript
checkbox.  Unchecking the checkbox disables JavaScript.  Now, when I
visit a Web site where I've seen this freeze in the past, I uncheck.
Sometimes I have to be alert to check the checkbox when navigating
through such a site to a page that is just plain broken without
JavaScript.

RSS  doesn't  exist in Mac version of SM 1.1.8 never has. you could add 
an extension but didn't like it. Even in FF I don't use it.


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Re: Freezing in SM2

2009-10-26 Thread Leonidas Jones

Phillip Jones wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/26/2009 4:45 AM, David Wilkinson wrote:

/snip/



RSS doesn't exist in Mac version of SM 1.1.8 never has. you could add an
extension but didn't like it. Even in FF I don't use it.



Actually, Forumzilla worked very well on 1.1.x.  Generally the RSS 
reader native to SM 2.0 Mail/News is better, but Forumzilla didn't 
freeze 1.1.x quite the way RSS does in 2.0.


Again though, I suspect that my system of placing data on an external 
drive may have something to do with that.


Lee

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Re: Freezing in SM2

2009-10-26 Thread Phillip Jones

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/26/2009 4:45 AM, David Wilkinson wrote:

/snip/



RSS doesn't exist in Mac version of SM 1.1.8 never has. you could add an
extension but didn't like it. Even in FF I don't use it.



Actually, Forumzilla worked very well on 1.1.x.  Generally the RSS 
reader native to SM 2.0 Mail/News is better, but Forumzilla didn't 
freeze 1.1.x quite the way RSS does in 2.0.


Again though, I suspect that my system of placing data on an external 
drive may have something to do with that.


Lee

I tried another other than the one you suggest. never saw anything 
interest, and caused more problems in fact I had to remove all the 
chrome items the re-download then install what I had.

Can you disable the RSS in SM2??

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Re: Freezing in SM2

2009-10-26 Thread Leonidas Jones

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/26/2009 4:45 AM, David Wilkinson wrote:

/snip/



RSS doesn't exist in Mac version of SM 1.1.8 never has. you could add an
extension but didn't like it. Even in FF I don't use it.



Actually, Forumzilla worked very well on 1.1.x. Generally the RSS
reader native to SM 2.0 Mail/News is better, but Forumzilla didn't
freeze 1.1.x quite the way RSS does in 2.0.

Again though, I suspect that my system of placing data on an external
drive may have something to do with that.

Lee


I tried another other than the one you suggest. never saw anything
interest, and caused more problems in fact I had to remove all the
chrome items the re-download then install what I had.
Can you disable the RSS in SM2??



No need to disable it, just don't use it.

Lee
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