Re: SM 2.x: Mail Filter keeps getting disabled
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:55:47 -0600, Sqwertz wrote: Simple mail filter that looks for a word in the subject of an Inbox and puts it into a named local folder. It keeps getting disabled. If I tick the Enabled box, it works until SM gets shut down, then it unticks itself. I've deleted the filter and re-added it. Same thing. It had a mind of it's own. It pretty much makes messages filters useless. I have removed and reinstalled the filter and the email account it is attached to. Same thing happens. This account is set up to POP from pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com (ATT DSL). The only thing odd I notice occasionally is when stafrt the email client, it often say splease wait while the folder is being processed. Apparently it was already checking mail when I fired up the mail window. The filter itself is pretty simple: version=9 logging=yes name=TOSNA enabled=no type=17 action=Move to folder actionValue=mailbox://nob...@local%20folders/TOSNA condition=AND (subject,contains,TOSNA) It's the only filter in the file. And it keeps disabling itself for no apparent reason. Log file is working fine - it logs everything normally up until the point it disables itself. So much for message filters. -sw ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.x: Mail Filter keeps getting disabled
Sqwertz wrote: Simple mail filter that looks for a word in the subject of an Inbox and puts it into a named local folder. It keeps getting disabled. If I tick the Enabled box, it works until SM gets shut down, then it unticks itself. I've deleted the filter and re-added it. Same thing. It had a mind of it's own. It pretty much makes messages filters useless. -sw Change the name. and see what happen. Also it possible that your filters database is corrupt . I hope you don't have too many rules. might be better to destroy it and start over. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2: Save link target as does not work
D B Malmquist wrote: EH wrote: Hello! When saving a link (e.g. a PDF), the 'open progress dialog' appears, but the download does not start. Directly clicking on the PDF link works: the PDF is loaded and then displayed. Just tested: using the download manager also does not work! It shows me, that the dowmload is not started. I tested this with another computer just having installed Seamonkey 2. Does not work here, too. What happens here? Such an important feature doen't work? BTW: On both computers, Seamonkey got the last version (1.1.18 / 1.1.17). Anybody else with this problem? Possibly you have the Adobe Acrobat Plug-in installed? My recollection is that even if you uncheck Display PDF in Browser in Acrobat, the plug-in will nevertheless interfere with what happens when a PDF link is clicked. On Seamonkey 2 I guess we will be able to just disable the plug-in. Getting rid of it in Seamonkey 1.x isn't so easy. You have to disable plug-in scanning _and_ make sure the DLL is removed from the install directory: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Adobe_Reader#Disabling_the_browser_plugin -dbm I just noticed this thread because I was looking to see if anyone else had this problem, although a simple 'does not work' is incorrect. How to do it. 1 - Save Link Target As (you can do several of them if you have several to do) 2 - Go to the 'download manager' and stop all downloads which have not actually started 3 - you now get the option to restart them. Do so. Problem solved. If this was a plugin problem then I have a problem with my html plugin :-) btw, Linux, currently running 2.0.1 under Opensuse 11.2 although this problem started under 2.0.0 and Opensuse 11.1. This applies to both the 32 and 64-bit versions. I am also fairly certain that I have this behaviour on my XP machine, assume that it always has the current SM version loaded. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2 News reader
Martin Freitag wrote: Bill Davidsen schrieb: J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Jim Dell wrote: Stan wrote: Jim Dell wrote: The problem I am having is that when I open a news group it points to the last posting and in previous version of SeaMonkey it pointed to the first unread posting. Looked for a setting, but can't seem to find one to correct this situation. I'm not sure if either of these will help but possibly Edit/Preferences/Mail and News. OR, View/Sort. Been there. Still have to scroll up to first message. Same here. With 1.1.18, the cursor was always on the top (oldest) message; now, it's somewhere in the (seemingly random) middle, requiring either the scroll or click-and-Home. -JW How about the first message on the last page of messages? Sound right? That's where I seem to get it for both news and rss feeds. You maybe want to play with (true/false): user_pref(mailnews.scroll_to_new_message, false); regards Martin Martin, It doesn't seem to have any effect on the behavior. Jim ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2 News reader
Bill Davidsen schrieb: J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Jim Dell wrote: Stan wrote: Jim Dell wrote: The problem I am having is that when I open a news group it points to the last posting and in previous version of SeaMonkey it pointed to the first unread posting. Looked for a setting, but can't seem to find one to correct this situation. I'm not sure if either of these will help but possibly Edit/Preferences/Mail and News. OR, View/Sort. Been there. Still have to scroll up to first message. Same here. With 1.1.18, the cursor was always on the top (oldest) message; now, it's somewhere in the (seemingly random) middle, requiring either the scroll or click-and-Home. -JW How about the first message on the last page of messages? Sound right? That's where I seem to get it for both news and rss feeds. You maybe want to play with (true/false): user_pref(mailnews.scroll_to_new_message, false); regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.
robert.ga...@att.net wrote: Well it certainly is supported even if it is not advisable. Just look at the entry in about:config. javascript.allow.mailnews default boolean false That one shouldn't exist there - you're sure it exists in 2.0? If so, then it's a real bug. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.
On 11/02/2009 06:21 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: robert.ga...@att.net wrote: Well it certainly is supported even if it is not advisable. Just look at the entry in about:config. javascript.allow.mailnews default boolean false That one shouldn't exist there - you're sure it exists in 2.0? If so, then it's a real bug. Robert Kaiser javascript.allow.mailnews;false But maybe it got carried over with the transfer from 1.1.18? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.
NoOp wrote: On 11/02/2009 06:21 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: robert.ga...@att.net wrote: Well it certainly is supported even if it is not advisable. Just look at the entry in about:config. javascript.allow.mailnews default boolean false That one shouldn't exist there - you're sure it exists in 2.0? If so, then it's a real bug. Robert Kaiser javascript.allow.mailnews;false But maybe it got carried over with the transfer from 1.1.18? Its there all right, in fact I even have it set to true. It must be transferred with the profile from 1.1.18. Or might it have been there in an alpha then removed for a relesae and it carried over for those who used alhas? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.
On 11/2/2009 3:21 PM Robert Kaiser wrote: robert.ga...@att.net wrote: Well it certainly is supported even if it is not advisable. Just look at the entry in about:config. javascript.allow.mailnews default boolean false That one shouldn't exist there - you're sure it exists in 2.0? If so, then it's a real bug. The Core part of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=248280 only landed on m-c... HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.
NoOp wrote: On 11/02/2009 09:15 AM, Leonidas Jones wrote: NoOp wrote: On 11/02/2009 06:21 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: robert.ga...@att.net wrote: Well it certainly is supported even if it is not advisable. Just look at the entry in about:config. javascript.allow.mailnews default boolean false That one shouldn't exist there - you're sure it exists in 2.0? If so, then it's a real bug. Robert Kaiser javascript.allow.mailnews;false But maybe it got carried over with the transfer from 1.1.18? Its there all right, in fact I even have it set to true. It must be transferred with the profile from 1.1.18. Or might it have been there in an alpha then removed for a relesae and it carried over for those who used alhas? Lee I just checked on one of my test machines w/brand new 2.0 install (never had any other SM on the machine) and it is there alright: javascript.allow.mailnews;false I'm not surprised. Its there in Firefox 3.5.4 too! Obviously its a hold over from earlier versions. Since it could not have any effect in FF, it probably does not in SM either, though it might be worth a test. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.
4) bring back ability to disable Javascript for Mail and Newsgroups independent of Browser - as previous. What problem do you have with JavaScript being always disabled for Mail and Newsgroups, as it is now? 5) Preference Pane/selections for Tabbed Mail similar to what is in place for Tabbed Browsing. That's planned, from what I know, the contributor working on this just didn't have time to finish it up for 2.0 For all the others, have youu looked if bugs are filed? Can you help with putting some of your own time in and work on any of them yourself? We are a volunteer project, most things only happen if someone volunteers for them, you know... Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.
Robert Kaiser wrote: 4) bring back ability to disable Javascript for Mail and Newsgroups independent of Browser - as previous. What problem do you have with JavaScript being always disabled for Mail and Newsgroups, as it is now? Well, for one - as the interface stands now I have no idea what the JavaScript default is for Mail and News by just reading the Prefs panel; only that it is enabled or disabled for the Browser. So the assumption could be that if I enable it for the Browser, it's now enabled globally. Poor interface design; no feedback/information on what is going on. And suppose I do want it enabled for Mail and News...then what is my option? 5) Preference Pane/selections for Tabbed Mail similar to what is in place for Tabbed Browsing. That's planned, from what I know, the contributor working on this just didn't have time to finish it up for 2.0 That's good to hear! For all the others, have youu looked if bugs are filed? Can you help with putting some of your own time in and work on any of them yourself? We are a volunteer project, most things only happen if someone volunteers for them, you know... Robert Kaiser No - the other items I've listed defiantly fall into the category of enhancements, not bugs. It also appears that the information in SM Help is ahead of the release in a number of areas/implementations. I'm not a coder so I can't contribute that way, but I do evaluate software interfaces and operation professionally. I should probably be a beta tester...I could at least help out that way. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.
Rufus wrote: Well, for one - as the interface stands now I have no idea what the JavaScript default is for Mail and News by just reading the Prefs panel; only that it is enabled or disabled for the Browser. So the assumption could be that if I enable it for the Browser, it's now enabled globally. If it was globally, it wouldn't state Browser next to the checkbox. Not having a checkbox to enable it for mail and newsgroups means that you cannot enable it, i.e. it's not available at all. But I agree that the user interface could be better. I'd appreciate a bug with suggestions and a patch filed for 2.1. Poor interface design; no feedback/information on what is going on. And suppose I do want it enabled for Mail and News...then what is my option? None. JavaScript in MailNews is not just evil, it's not supported due to its unclear security state. For all the others, have youu looked if bugs are filed? Can you help with putting some of your own time in and work on any of them yourself? We are a volunteer project, most things only happen if someone volunteers for them, you know... No - the other items I've listed defiantly fall into the category of enhancements, not bugs. It also appears that the information in SM Help is ahead of the release in a number of areas/implementations. Enhancements are also bugs in Mozilla speak, i.e. they need a bug report filed in Bugzilla to be tracked. Anything just mentioned anywhere else is pretty sure to fall through the cracks, and any code change whatsoever needs a bug report where it was discussed to be mentioned in its commit comment. I'm not a coder so I can't contribute that way, but I do evaluate software interfaces and operation professionally. I should probably be a beta tester...I could at least help out that way. Any help would be appreciated! And you probably also could be a bug reporter :) Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: Well, for one - as the interface stands now I have no idea what the JavaScript default is for Mail and News by just reading the Prefs panel; only that it is enabled or disabled for the Browser. So the assumption could be that if I enable it for the Browser, it's now enabled globally. If it was globally, it wouldn't state Browser next to the checkbox. Not having a checkbox to enable it for mail and newsgroups means that you cannot enable it, i.e. it's not available at all. But I agree that the user interface could be better. I'd appreciate a bug with suggestions and a patch filed for 2.1. ...I was code head of sorts...in a previous life...to me it's implied because it doesn't say anything now and did before, and in my professional life we aren't in the habit of taking functionality out of code - or at least we don't NOOP it without making it clear what the new result is. So my impression was that something was still happening behind the scenes for Mail and News that I now no longer have control over. Poor interface design; no feedback/information on what is going on. And suppose I do want it enabled for Mail and News...then what is my option? None. JavaScript in MailNews is not just evil, it's not supported due to its unclear security state. Wish it told me that someplace. I'm big on security features - also from a professional standpoint. The flexibility and user options in SM are one of it's stronger facets, IMO. For all the others, have youu looked if bugs are filed? Can you help with putting some of your own time in and work on any of them yourself? We are a volunteer project, most things only happen if someone volunteers for them, you know... No - the other items I've listed defiantly fall into the category of enhancements, not bugs. It also appears that the information in SM Help is ahead of the release in a number of areas/implementations. Enhancements are also bugs in Mozilla speak, i.e. they need a bug report filed in Bugzilla to be tracked. Anything just mentioned anywhere else is pretty sure to fall through the cracks, and any code change whatsoever needs a bug report where it was discussed to be mentioned in its commit comment. Ahhh...at work we make a distinction. I'll look into capturing all my observations in bug reports on Bugzilla, then. If it'll help, I'd be happy to. I read in another thread that coders were reading/monitoring here and to keep posting. So I have been. I'm not a coder so I can't contribute that way, but I do evaluate software interfaces and operation professionally. I should probably be a beta tester...I could at least help out that way. Any help would be appreciated! And you probably also could be a bug reporter :) Robert Kaiser I'll try a swing at it. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.
Robert Kaiser wrote: 4) bring back ability to disable Javascript for Mail and Newsgroups independent of Browser - as previous. What problem do you have with JavaScript being always disabled for Mail and Newsgroups, as it is now? Not having the choice of whether to use it. I've always had JavaScript enabled for mail and news since back in Netscape navigator days and not once have I had a problem with JavaScript. I am aware there are supposed to be issues with JavaScript. But I've never experienced them. 5) Preference Pane/selections for Tabbed Mail similar to what is in place for Tabbed Browsing. That's planned, from what I know, the contributor working on this just didn't have time to finish it up for 2.0 For all the others, have youu looked if bugs are filed? Can you help with putting some of your own time in and work on any of them yourself? We are a volunteer project, most things only happen if someone volunteers for them, you know... Robert Kaiser -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2 Composer Preview links need to be made active
Leonidas Jones leonidasjo...@netscape.net put forth: The Composer component is probably the lowest priority for the volunteer Take a look at KompoZer: http://www.kompozer.net/ Does it do what you want it to do? If so, that is said to be the basis for SM Composer as of 2.1, if all goes well. Hopefully no, and here are the humble reasons: 1. Kompozer as it exists right now, is just a glorified and too-limited NVU. It may well be overkill for SM 2.01 and maybe even SM 2.1, as NVU can't begin to hold a candle to the really fair-to-good HTML editors. SM might need too much to compete with them, too. SM 2 users need something nice as far as HTML editing and quick composition, and perhaps Composer 2.01 in SM 2 is the better answer. 2. We don't need a small, underpowered HTML editor (essentially a modified NVU) IN SM 2, but yes, SM 2.01 needs a slight bit more than what the initial SM 2 Composer has. Again, the Preview links not working is one of THE please-fix-sooner needs for SM 2.01 3. We DO need a SM 2.01... because it's going to take too long to do SM 2.1. And do we really want to wait that long ?? Even the one or two SM 2 volunteer programmers (God bless them, one and both or all!) themselves...would they want to wait that long? More needed is to get the few nagging SM 2.0 things fixed in a 2.01 and get 2.01 out to the users. THEN turn efforts to a SM 2.1 perhaps in 1ST quarter 2010. IF NVU can add a little more power and automated features, then yes, it might make it into SM 2.1, and be a fair contender for a low-end HTML editor with some pretty good muscles, I will grant it that potential. But not at the expense of ignoring a needed SM 2.01, one with the Composer Preview links optioned to make them globally active or not. Joe -- message trail -- Subject: Re: Follow-up, SM2 Composer Preview mode not activating links Message: 8 JR WG wrote: Follow-up... RE: SM2 Composer Preview mode not activating links, thus not allowing them to be clicked on to test and/or cause a browser to be automatically opened to the link. I. SM2 and Composer Introduction in Workshops Well, after two Workshops (we give quite a few), I introduced SM2 to a total of 42 users of both fairly neophyte and, we can safely say, intermediate and advanced users. To a one, well, with one wavering, all stated that SM2 Composer Preview mode not activating links is either a programming error or a bug. I politely explained how links were expected to be used and tested in SM2 Composer, and received a resounding series of replies that boiled down to: 1. Who would want to do all that work, just to test a link? 2. None of the other HTML editors does it that way, why change it now ? 3. There has to be something wrong in Composer, no matter what the explanation. 4. Any Windows, Mac, and Linux editors and tools seen always activate the links in their respective Preview modes. Ditto for the now old Windows Outlook and Outlook Express Preview modes. I humbly agree with the above, maybe all four of the most heard responses. II. The Acid Test So, in light of the above, we as a group used three or four common HTML editors and one dedicated web-design tool, and compared the workload, steps, intuitiveness and time it took to do simple link work in those tools versus SM 2 Composer NOT having links activated in Preview mode. Frankly, SM 2 Composer took far more steps to achieve the same results, and that's a sin. The extra steps and work that not having links active in Preview is simply not acceptable nor needed to be done that way. ALL the other editors and tools activate links in their respective Preview modes, and that activity has long been considered proper and correct activity or option, for a great many years. SM2 Composer Preview mode not activating links is NOT correct, and should be considered an oversight if not a programmer's bug in SM Composer 2.0...and fixed as soon as prudently possible in a 2.01, or 2.1, providing that a 2.1 would not be too long in forthcoming. Joe The Composer component is probably the lowest priority for the volunteer Take a look at KompoZer: http://www.kompozer.net/ Does it do what you want it to do? If so, that is said to be the basis for SM Coposer as of 2.1, if all goes well. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2 on my Mac - No Go
David L. Ross wrote: Sorry buts that about as detailed as I can get as to what's wrong. Mac G4 1.25SP 2GB OS 10.4.11 Was using SM 1.1.14 Zipped the old Mozilla folder in ~/Library just in case. Ditto renamed SeaMonkey.app to SeaMonkey old.app Drop installed SM v2 Started it up, it asked me if I wanted to convert old stuff to new. I said yes. Note I have 7 mail accounts (6 imap, 1 pop) and 2 news accounts (of of them this site) First start Got a browser window. Did Cmd2 and no mail window. But there was a 2 with no description in the Window menu. Waited a bit. Tried Cmd2 a few more times. Then tried to quit. Menu command activated but nothing happened. Tried both CmdQ and menu pick. Nada. Restarted. Second start Now I can get a mail/news window. But I can't do anything with it. Menu items flash if you pick them. But nothing happens. Clicking on Account settings and such do nothing. I can open up main settings window but many of the choices yield a blank space on the right. Still can't quit. So I restart again. Third start Now I can get into preferences. They seem to do things. Ditto mail account settings. But some accounts will not check email. Other things odd. Still can't quit. Restart AGAIN. Forth start I get further but when I try and walk through email account settings many (most?) windows on the right seem to display some XML code in 50pt type. Still no quit. Restart AGAIN. Now I fire up SeaMonkey old and send this. Any ideas? Unfortunately no. I've had the same problems on a MacPro 3GB OS 10.5.8. SM 1.1.18 works perfectly to access 9 email accounts, 4 news servers, bookmark with 2900 entries and 550 MB in local folders. SM 2.0 hangs, crashes, display numbers with no description in the Window menu, refuses to display preferences, etc.. After several restart and reboot, I drop SM 2.0 and revert to the previously renamed SeaMonkey.1.1.18.app I've run SM 2.0 without problem on a Windows XP system with a single email account, few bookmark entries and local folders almost empty. I don't know yet what makes SM 2.0 unusable on MacOs. EM ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2 on my Mac - No Go
Leonidas Jones wrote: roger.me...@adm.unige.ch wrote: David L. Ross wrote: Sorry buts that about as detailed as I can get as to what's wrong. Mac G4 1.25SP 2GB OS 10.4.11 Was using SM 1.1.14 Zipped the old Mozilla folder in ~/Library just in case. Ditto renamed SeaMonkey.app to SeaMonkey old.app Drop installed SM v2 Started it up, it asked me if I wanted to convert old stuff to new. I said yes. Note I have 7 mail accounts (6 imap, 1 pop) and 2 news accounts (of of them this site) First start Got a browser window. Did Cmd2 and no mail window. But there was a 2 with no description in the Window menu. Waited a bit. Tried Cmd2 a few more times. Then tried to quit. Menu command activated but nothing happened. Tried both CmdQ and menu pick. Nada. Restarted. Second start Now I can get a mail/news window. But I can't do anything with it. Menu items flash if you pick them. But nothing happens. Clicking on Account settings and such do nothing. I can open up main settings window but many of the choices yield a blank space on the right. Still can't quit. So I restart again. Third start Now I can get into preferences. They seem to do things. Ditto mail account settings. But some accounts will not check email. Other things odd. Still can't quit. Restart AGAIN. Forth start I get further but when I try and walk through email account settings many (most?) windows on the right seem to display some XML code in 50pt type. Still no quit. Restart AGAIN. Now I fire up SeaMonkey old and send this. Any ideas? Unfortunately no. I've had the same problems on a MacPro 3GB OS 10.5.8. SM 1.1.18 works perfectly to access 9 email accounts, 4 news servers, bookmark with 2900 entries and 550 MB in local folders. SM 2.0 hangs, crashes, display numbers with no description in the Window menu, refuses to display preferences, etc.. After several restart and reboot, I drop SM 2.0 and revert to the previously renamed SeaMonkey.1.1.18.app I've run SM 2.0 without problem on a Windows XP system with a single email account, few bookmark entries and local folders almost empty. I don't know yet what makes SM 2.0 unusable on MacOs. EM I've got SM2.0 running without issue on 6 Mac OSX machines, so it is far from a universal problem. As I tried to point out I may not be normal. In addition to all the accounts mentioned above I have about 2 displays worth of filters to sort out email from various mail lists I'm on. But no plug ins. :) So creating the profile by hand means an afternoon or more. (Did the change the way you pick a folder for filters to file into? The one looong list is a real pita for me as I have about 200 folders.) David ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2 on my Mac - No Go
David L. Ross wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: roger.me...@adm.unige.ch wrote: David L. Ross wrote: Sorry buts that about as detailed as I can get as to what's wrong. Mac G4 1.25SP 2GB OS 10.4.11 Was using SM 1.1.14 Zipped the old Mozilla folder in ~/Library just in case. Ditto renamed SeaMonkey.app to SeaMonkey old.app Drop installed SM v2 Started it up, it asked me if I wanted to convert old stuff to new. I said yes. Note I have 7 mail accounts (6 imap, 1 pop) and 2 news accounts (of of them this site) First start Got a browser window. Did Cmd2 and no mail window. But there was a 2 with no description in the Window menu. Waited a bit. Tried Cmd2 a few more times. Then tried to quit. Menu command activated but nothing happened. Tried both CmdQ and menu pick. Nada. Restarted. Second start Big snip on how it seems to get better and better after restarting the computer multiple times but is still a no go. I've run SM 2.0 without problem on a Windows XP system with a single email account, few bookmark entries and local folders almost empty. I don't know yet what makes SM 2.0 unusable on MacOs. EM I've got SM2.0 running without issue on 6 Mac OSX machines, so it is far from a universal problem. As I tried to point out I may not be normal. In addition to all the accounts mentioned above I have about 2 displays worth of filters to sort out email from various mail lists I'm on. But no plug ins. :) So creating the profile by hand means an afternoon or more. (Did the change the way you pick a folder for filters to file into? The one looong list is a real pita for me as I have about 200 folders.) Is there something I can send someone who might be able to figure out the issue? My profile? old/new? An Activity monitor inspection? Is there a document describing the new profile format so I can look for something odd? David ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2: Save link target as does not work
EH wrote: Hello! When saving a link (e.g. a PDF), the 'open progress dialog' appears, but the download does not start. Directly clicking on the PDF link works: the PDF is loaded and then displayed. Just tested: using the download manager also does not work! It shows me, that the dowmload is not started. I tested this with another computer just having installed Seamonkey 2. Does not work here, too. What happens here? Such an important feature doen't work? BTW: On both computers, Seamonkey got the last version (1.1.18 / 1.1.17). Anybody else with this problem? Possibly you have the Adobe Acrobat Plug-in installed? My recollection is that even if you uncheck Display PDF in Browser in Acrobat, the plug-in will nevertheless interfere with what happens when a PDF link is clicked. On Seamonkey 2 I guess we will be able to just disable the plug-in. Getting rid of it in Seamonkey 1.x isn't so easy. You have to disable plug-in scanning _and_ make sure the DLL is removed from the install directory: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Adobe_Reader#Disabling_the_browser_plugin -dbm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2 Modal window - password manager - Vol 46, Issue 129
RE: SM 2 modal windows and that password manager... e...@edmullen.net wrote: Well, except for the totally ill-conceived trashing of the modal windows. If I have multiple accounts for a single site (say, American Express, which I do, and many many other sites), and the reason I stored that account info in SeaMonkey in the first place was because I can't and don't want to have to recall the arcane login info, then, no, the new paradigm doesn't work. snipped for brevity For Pete's sake, just return or do SM 2's modal windows and SM's password manager to how it's done in Firefox 3.5x. Frankly, NONE of the browsers methods seem perfect -- as we all have somewhat interesting and special needs in that area -- but so far, this observer feels, and I am hopeful others do, that Firefix 3.5x got it nearer to better or right than SM2 ever will, judging from how SM 2.0 has it done...or not done. Right now, SM 2 is a modal window password mangler...not a manager. As good overall that SM 2 has turned out, does it really deserve a mangler ? Joe ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2 needs - Navigation Toolbar
SM 2 needs as seen... 1. Navigation Toolbar needs more icons and choices. Especially: - Open a New Tab - Open a New Window These would be in addition to, NOT replacing, the Open a new tab mini-icon that by default sits under and to the left of the navigation toolbar in the Tabs bar. Clearly, there need to be more Navigation Toolbar icons and choices than the above two, but they seem initially most needed. Joe ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2-import firefox
On 28/10/2009 06:35, Leonidas Jones wrote: So far as I understand it, SeaMonkey 2.0 will import one profile on the first run. Since the most profile intensive are Mail/News, TB or earlier SM or Netscape/Mozilla profiles are primary. IE would be there for new users from Windows. I don't know why there is no FF import, but, since the backend is the same, copying files manually should not be a problem. No-one stepped up to write the migration/import code for FF import :-( iirc bookmarks can be imported via the bookmark manager. Standard8 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2 Modal window - password manager - Vol 46, Issue 129
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:15:39 -0500, INFO WG wrote: For Pete's sake, just return or do SM 2's modal windows and SM's password manager to how it's done in Firefox 3.5x. Frankly, NONE of the browsers methods seem perfect -- as we all have somewhat interesting and special needs in that area -- but so far, this observer feels, and I am hopeful others do, that Firefix 3.5x got it nearer to better or right than SM2 ever will, judging from how SM 2.0 has it done...or not done. Right now, SM 2 is a modal window password mangler...not a manager. As good overall that SM 2 has turned out, does it really deserve a mangler ? Since we use the same infobars as Firefox 3.5.4 and the same password manager as Firefox 3.5.4 I don't understand what you mean by Firefix 3.5x got it nearer to better or right than SM2 ever will. Please explain. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2 needs - Navigation Toolbar
INFO WG wrote, On 10/28/2009 12:31 PM: SM 2 needs as seen... 1. Navigation Toolbar needs more icons and choices. Especially: - Open a New Tab - Open a New Window These would be in addition to, NOT replacing, the Open a new tab mini-icon that by default sits under and to the left of the navigation toolbar in the Tabs bar. Clearly, there need to be more Navigation Toolbar icons and choices than the above two, but they seem initially most needed. Joe A possible add-on then ? it would be new buttons to add when right clicking in the navigation toolbar and selecting customize... Alternative is to use the CRL T (to open a new tab) and CTRL N (to open a new window). Much faster IMHO, but only a matter of choice Dominique ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2 needs - Navigation Toolbar
dominique wrote: A possible add-on then ? Should be easy to do as add-on if someone takes the time to actually do it - and probably would be a good case for someone to learn how to do an add-on and improve SeaMonkey 2.0 him/herself! ;-) Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2 Initial Observations 2 - Load times
dominique wrote: INFO WG wrote, On 10/28/2009 1:03 PM: Given that BOTH SM 2 and Firefox 3.5x are empty of all Add-Ons and so forth...and main or basic options on both are set to an essentially clean install... SM 2 takes FAR longer to load in (Windows) than Firefox 3.5x does. No matter what the system conditions, SM 2, even devoid of added Add-On's and other extras...still takes 3x to 6x longer to load in. Once cached, SM 2 load times drop, but still much longer than Firefox 3.5x. And yes, this is seen on XP SP2, XP SP3, Vista and the initial Windows 7 as well, 2GB to 4GB CPU boxes. Strange for now, might be given some SM 2 programmer thought as time allows ? Joe M, maybe you realize that you are not comparing similar products, but a simple browser and a suite, including mail, IRC, composer, RSS and news Actually he isn't, starting the browser should be starting all the other stuff, too, so it shouldn't slow you down. As for me, I gladly prefer SM2, even at the cost of a slower startup ! Anyway, I only start it up once a day, and I'd rather complain on the time my OS takes to boot up :-) Fedora 12 boots faster than SM loads... Dominique (using SM2 since the early alpha versions) -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2 Composer: no hyperlink active in Preview
JR WG wrote: RE: SM 2 Composer, possibly total insanity? System: Windows all -- Repeatable in all Win OS systems In the SM 2 Composer, in Preview, none of the links are enabled(!) Hence, users can not click on a link in Composer Preview mode, and have that link opened in a browser...in this case the preferred browser would of course be SM 2. Double-clicking on the link -- on the hyperlink -- does nothing but open the link properties, but nothing else. No amount of CTRL, SHIFT, ALT or anything else makes the link work. Something perfectly logical is totally missing here. The same situation in ANY other HTML editor that has anywhere near a Preview function of course enables the link, allowing it to become hot and ready to work or test... e.g., moving the mouse or pointer over the hypertext link produces the enabled and confirmed little pointing finger. There's no SM 2 or Composer preferences setting either; one that would allow enable links in Preview mode or not allow it. Not trying to be mean, but is this lack of common operating procedure in SM 2's Composer Preview actually intended to be this totally limited way ? If so, that's a major overlooked problem...not a special SM 2 feature Joe Joe, While in Composer, Preview simply gives you an 'dumb' overview of the page you are working on. To get an 'active' view, you need to click on BROWSE at which point all of your links will be enabled and you can click an connect to local and remote links. To return to the editor, close the browser screenthis is the way the composer has always worked for me since Netscape 4.7. -- Stan Gondek Multi Path Communications http://www.m-p-c.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2 on my Mac - No Go
David L. Ross wrote: Sorry buts that about as detailed as I can get as to what's wrong. Mac G4 1.25SP 2GB OS 10.4.11 Was using SM 1.1.14 Zipped the old Mozilla folder in ~/Library just in case. Ditto renamed SeaMonkey.app to SeaMonkey old.app Drop installed SM v2 Started it up, it asked me if I wanted to convert old stuff to new. I said yes. Note I have 7 mail accounts (6 imap, 1 pop) and 2 news accounts (of of them this site) First start Got a browser window. Did Cmd2 and no mail window. But there was a 2 with no description in the Window menu. Waited a bit. Tried Cmd2 a few more times. Then tried to quit. Menu command activated but nothing happened. Tried both CmdQ and menu pick. Nada. Restarted. Second start Now I can get a mail/news window. But I can't do anything with it. Menu items flash if you pick them. But nothing happens. Clicking on Account settings and such do nothing. I can open up main settings window but many of the choices yield a blank space on the right. Still can't quit. So I restart again. Third start Now I can get into preferences. They seem to do things. Ditto mail account settings. But some accounts will not check email. Other things odd. Still can't quit. Restart AGAIN. Forth start I get further but when I try and walk through email account settings many (most?) windows on the right seem to display some XML code in 50pt type. Still no quit. Restart AGAIN. Now I fire up SeaMonkey old and send this. Any ideas? Thanks David All I can really contribute is that I have SM 2.0 up and running well on a significantly underpowered G4 running Tiger. The migration seemed fine, everything behaved as it should. If you try creating a new profile, does it work as it is supposed to do? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2 SeaMonkey Showcase 0.9.5
INFO WG wrote: Philip... RE: - Showcase / Firefox Showcase (0.9.5.1) -- Superb show all-in-one-panel view of the active tabs. Could/should be a must-have option for SM 2. Does this not work for you? http://showcase.uworks.net/download.html SeaMonkey Showcase 0.9.5 (Special version of Showcase for SeaMonkey) *DO NOT INSTALL ON FIREFOX* No, the XPI resulting from the link: http://showcase.uworks.net/seamonkey_showcase-0.9.5-sm.xpi will not install into SM 2.0 (Windows). It just generates the following error dialog: == SeaMonkey could not install the file at http://showcase.uworks.net/seamonkey_showcase-0.9.5-sm.xpi because: Install script not found -204 == That sounds like a SeaMonkey 1.x error message, did you really try this in 2.0? Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2 SeaMonkey Showcase 0.9.5
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:03:18 -0500, INFO WG wrote: Philip... Does this not work for you? http://showcase.uworks.net/download.html SeaMonkey Showcase 0.9.5 (Special version of Showcase for SeaMonkey) *DO NOT INSTALL ON FIREFOX* No, the XPI resulting from the link: http://showcase.uworks.net/seamonkey_showcase-0.9.5-sm.xpi will not install into SM 2.0 (Windows). It just generates the following error dialog: == SeaMonkey could not install the file at http://showcase.uworks.net/seamonkey_showcase-0.9.5-sm.xpi because: Install script not found -204 == Sounds like it ALMOST works, though. Ah. Looks like that version is only for SeaMonkey 1.1. The new SeaMonkey 2.0 uses the same extension manager and APIs as Firefox 3.5.4. Annoyingly the Firefox version almost works as well, just a different almost. Someone should email the author and remind him that SM 2.0 is much closer to Firefox 3.5.x. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2 RC2 -- mail (and news) file dropdown only has recent
Bob Fleischer wrote: I have experienced this problem intermittently throughout the SM 2 betas and RCs. Sometimes the File icon presents a list that ONLY includes Recent. I then have to resort to one of the other UI approaches to filing a message. Bob I've noticed the Recent list is all that's available when a message is open, so I just close the message to use the other complete drop down. bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2
NoOp wrote: Download manager seems to have issues though... clear the urls instead of actually clearing them, it just removes the visible url. But that's for another bug/issue. Right. And one that might just have been resolved minutes ago by me landing the replacement of the old download manager with the new one. :) Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2
On 05/29/2009 05:29 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: NoOp wrote: Download manager seems to have issues though... clear the urls instead of actually clearing them, it just removes the visible url. But that's for another bug/issue. Right. And one that might just have been resolved minutes ago by me landing the replacement of the old download manager with the new one. :) Robert Kaiser Cool thanks! FYI for other users: http://home.kairo.at/blog/2009-05/new_download_manager_lands_in_seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2
On Wed, 27 May 2009 17:46:56 -0700, NoOp wrote: Sorry... Any progress/tests for Lightning w/SM 2.x? I can actually load it from the nightly, but can't seem to get anything to show. Once we land the tabmail (tabbed mail interface) patch getting the Lightning UI to show up should be just a SMOP. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. [ ]Formatting Drive C: ▒ * TagZilla 0.066.6 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2
On 05/28/2009 08:56 AM, Philip Chee wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2009 17:46:56 -0700, NoOp wrote: Sorry... Any progress/tests for Lightning w/SM 2.x? I can actually load it from the nightly, but can't seem to get anything to show. Once we land the tabmail (tabbed mail interface) patch getting the Lightning UI to show up should be just a SMOP. Phil Thanks. BTW: I do get the lightning menu items in the menu dropdowns - so that part is working :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2
NoOp wrote: On 05/28/2009 08:56 AM, Philip Chee wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2009 17:46:56 -0700, NoOp wrote: Sorry... Any progress/tests for Lightning w/SM 2.x? I can actually load it from the nightly, but can't seem to get anything to show. Once we land the tabmail (tabbed mail interface) patch getting the Lightning UI to show up should be just a SMOP. Thanks. BTW: I do get the lightning menu items in the menu dropdowns - so that part is working :-) And with the recent tabmail patch, even more is working. The goal of having Lightning be installable and working in SeaMonkey 2 seems to be reachable for sure with that tabbed mail work. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2
On 05/28/2009 11:18 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
NoOp wrote:
On 05/28/2009 08:56 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 17:46:56 -0700, NoOp wrote:
Sorry... Any progress/tests for Lightning w/SM 2.x? I can actually load
it from the nightly, but can't seem to get anything to show.
Once we land the tabmail (tabbed mail interface) patch getting the
Lightning UI to show up should be just a SMOP.
Thanks. BTW: I do get the lightning menu items in the menu dropdowns -
so that part is working :-)
And with the recent tabmail patch, even more is working. The goal of
having Lightning be installable and working in SeaMonkey 2 seems to be
reachable for sure with that tabbed mail work.
Robert Kaiser
I'll be happy to test on linux :-) However, just uninstalled lightning
as my cpu when honking up to 95% and an strace on the pid shows:
read(3, 0xb6b60058, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource
temporarily unavailable)
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8,
events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=12, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=13,
events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=18,
events=POLLIN}, {fd=10, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=24, events=POLLIN},
{fd=92, events=POLLIN}, {fd=36, events=POLLIN}, {fd=11, events=POLLIN},
{fd=90, events=POLLIN}, {fd=19, events=POLLIN}], 14, 0) = 1 ([{fd=19,
revents=POLLIN}])
read(19, \372..., 1) = 1
gettimeofday({1243545361, 413108}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1243545361, 413161}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1243545361, 413217}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1243545361, 413260}, NULL) = 0
futex(0xb6bd1448, FUTEX_WAKE_OP_PRIVATE, 1, 1, 0xb6bd1444,
{FUTEX_OP_SET, 0, FUTEX_OP_CMP_GT, 1}) = 1
Which I _think_ may be lightning related. Not sure as I've never had
that occur before.
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Re: SM 2
On 05/28/2009 02:30 PM, NoOp wrote: I'll be happy to test on linux :-) However, just uninstalled lightning as my cpu when honking up to 95% and an strace on the pid shows: snip Which I _think_ may be lightning related. Not sure as I've never had that occur before. Sorry for the noise... doesn't appear to be lightning related at all. I _think_ what happened is that I had been cleaning the download manager at the same time had a download popup still active (buried under my main windows). Cleared all of that reloaded. Download manager seems to have issues though... clear the urls instead of actually clearing them, it just removes the visible url. But that's for another bug/issue. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2
John Boyle wrote: To Robert Kaiser: What if theThunderbird developers cannot get their act together, until Christmas? :-\ Then Thunderbird is dead anyways, a number of people get laid off from Mozilla Messaging, and we will continue without them. From what I see going on there though, I don't think that will happen. The patch that has been pushing out their Beta 3 (and our Beta 1) is finally nearly ready to land from what I see - it may just match the download manager switch on our side in the time it goes in, and then we are both ready for a beta. :) Both projects probably can need another, shorter, beta cycle after that, which for us will probably mean pulling in a few more things from Thunderbird development, like a version of that improved search capability they are adding for Beta 3 (yes, that's the patch that pushed it out). Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2
Robert Kaiser wrote: John Boyle wrote: To Robert Kaiser: What if theThunderbird developers cannot get their act together, until Christmas? :-\ Then Thunderbird is dead anyways, a number of people get laid off from Mozilla Messaging, and we will continue without them. From what I see going on there though, I don't think that will happen. The patch that has been pushing out their Beta 3 (and our Beta 1) is finally nearly ready to land from what I see - it may just match the download manager switch on our side in the time it goes in, and then we are both ready for a beta. :) Both projects probably can need another, shorter, beta cycle after that, which for us will probably mean pulling in a few more things from Thunderbird development, like a version of that improved search capability they are adding for Beta 3 (yes, that's the patch that pushed it out). Robert Kaiser To Robert Kaiser: I thank you for the information and , ironically, look forward to your final product for this time around! :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2
On 05/27/2009 07:58 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: David E. Ross wrote: After the last beta, will there be release candidates before the final version? There will surely be candidate builds, actual release candidate releases are something I don't like much, we mostly misused them in the past for what betas are for, but we'll see what we'll be doing when we see in what shape we are in approaching that. The major difference between earlier Mozilla Suite releases as well as current Firefox releases and SeaMonkey/Thunderbird releases is that Gecko and platform changes and regression fixes happen in the former but not the latter, so we are in a different situation. Robert Kaiser Any progress/tests for Calendar w/SM 2.x? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2
On 05/27/2009 05:34 PM, NoOp wrote: On 05/27/2009 07:58 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: David E. Ross wrote: After the last beta, will there be release candidates before the final version? There will surely be candidate builds, actual release candidate releases are something I don't like much, we mostly misused them in the past for what betas are for, but we'll see what we'll be doing when we see in what shape we are in approaching that. The major difference between earlier Mozilla Suite releases as well as current Firefox releases and SeaMonkey/Thunderbird releases is that Gecko and platform changes and regression fixes happen in the former but not the latter, so we are in a different situation. Robert Kaiser Any progress/tests for Calendar w/SM 2.x? Sorry... Any progress/tests for Lightning w/SM 2.x? I can actually load it from the nightly, but can't seem to get anything to show. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2
On 27/05/09 8:46 PM, NoOp wrote: Sorry... Any progress/tests for Lightning w/SM 2.x? I can actually load it from the nightly, but can't seem to get anything to show. This should help http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/dmose/archives/2009/05/lightning_hacker_sought.html. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca List-owner: support-firefox, support-thunderbird, test-multimedia Keeper of the Knowledge Base: https://support.mozilla.com/kb/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2
Gerald Ross wrote: Haven't heard any discussion about SM2 lately. I'm ready anytime. Before anyone gets their feathers ruffled, I'm not nagging or rushing anybody. Just wondering. We need stable mail/news code to base our release on, and those parts are largely in control of the Thunderbird team. As they have been pushing out their Thunderbird 3 release recently, the same happened to the mail/news stabilization points, which means that we need to postpone the SeaMonkey 2 release as well. I hope we will have better estimations in terms of dates soon, but a first Beta release of SeaMonkey 2 should be available within a few weeks, the final release sometime this summer. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2
Robert Kaiser wrote: Gerald Ross wrote: Haven't heard any discussion about SM2 lately. I'm ready anytime. Before anyone gets their feathers ruffled, I'm not nagging or rushing anybody. Just wondering. We need stable mail/news code to base our release on, and those parts are largely in control of the Thunderbird team. As they have been pushing out their Thunderbird 3 release recently, the same happened to the mail/news stabilization points, which means that we need to postpone the SeaMonkey 2 release as well. I hope we will have better estimations in terms of dates soon, but a first Beta release of SeaMonkey 2 should be available within a few weeks, the final release sometime this summer. Robert Kaiser Thanks! -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA The best cure for insomnia is to get a lot of sleep. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2
Robert Kaiser wrote: Gerald Ross wrote: Haven't heard any discussion about SM2 lately. I'm ready anytime. Before anyone gets their feathers ruffled, I'm not nagging or rushing anybody. Just wondering. We need stable mail/news code to base our release on, and those parts are largely in control of the Thunderbird team. As they have been pushing out their Thunderbird 3 release recently, the same happened to the mail/news stabilization points, which means that we need to postpone the SeaMonkey 2 release as well. I hope we will have better estimations in terms of dates soon, but a first Beta release of SeaMonkey 2 should be available within a few weeks, the final release sometime this summer. Robert Kaiser To Robert Kaiser: What if theThunderbird developers cannot get their act together, until Christmas? :-\ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2
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Re: SM 2 instead of 1.x
INFO WG wrote: Sadly, another reason all efforts should have been long ago placed on SM 2. 1) You're assuming that effort on SeaMonkey 1.1.x releases takes away from efforts on SeaMonkey 2.0. 2) You really want SeaMonkey 1.1.x to not get security releases, leaving us without a stable, up-to-date SeaMonkey? This is madness. Frankly, experience like that has shown the futility of beating an older software horse when it was almost folly to get involved with it What a load of crock. When SeaMonkey 1.1.x came out, there was nothing better. especially as more modern code and people (staff) were available. Excuse me?! The SeaMonkey project consists entirely of volunteers, and those haven't changed. Many people who work on Firefox are being /paid/ to do so. No such thing with SeaMonkey. I think my efforts here in SM land were more to start pointing out the futility of engaging SM 1.x when SM 2 code was already past being on the drawing board, and that I felt and still do that SM 2 only would have been the far more prudent course. Efforts? Opinions are like assholes; everyone has one. Your ignorant complaints bring nothing to the project. Again, patches welcome. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2 profile import issue
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 12/18/2008 3:48 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 12/18/2008 12:24 AM, Ed Mullen wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 12/17/2008 1:31 AM, Ed Mullen wrote: When I installed SM 2 it imported my 1.1.13 profile. Seems to be working fine. Until a friend noted that every email has the same signature. I use a program called Pick-A-Tag to randomly generate a sig file. So I checked and the SM import changed the path for the sig file in every mail and news account I have. Original path in the SM 1.1.13 prefs.js is: G:\\My Documents\\pick_a_tag_destination.txt Path in SM 2 profile's prefs.js is: C:\\Documents and Settings\\Ed\\Application Data\\Mozilla\\SeaMonkey\\Profiles\\bxp1ogrw.default\\pick_a_tag_destination.txt And the import process copied the original file to my profile. I cannot imagine the logic behind this one. So that the SM2 profile has the actual files used... In general the file used is located in the SM1 profile, I'm not sure on the supported methods here... Well, the actual, defined, sig file is a finite path. And, in my case, the import screwed it up. It not only modified my original path for my sig file, but it also copied the file to my profile. Which totally screwed my system. Every two minutes my sig file program writes a new sig file. My SM file points to that destination file. Or should. The import totally screwed it up. For reference, can you import your SM(1) profile [hide or delete your SM2 profile temporarily] with TB3b1, and see what happens to your sig(s) in that? Huh? I installed SM 2. I let it do the default import process other than the components I did not want installed, and to point it to a different drive. How the hell did anyone decide to: 1. change the path to my sig file? 2. copy my sig file to my profile folder? 3. change the reference to my sig file in the prefs.js file? It is, at best, silly. At worst, well. I am awaiting a comment from someone who actually codes this stuff and who can explain it. To me? On the surface of it, it's just ... well ... dumb. You didn't answer my trial question either way (I'm much too tired atm to attempt to articulate my thoughts on your comments). But can you PLEASE try (without having a SM2 profile around in default location, just back it up) TB3b1 and run its importer I would welcome more info on how they treat sig file imports here. It is 100% relevant on if they do the same as our 2.0 importer, or if they do it differently. Doesn't mean either choice is right or wrong, just relevant. Sorry, Justin. It was late and I was in a grouchy mood. Mea culpa.\ Ok, I just installed TB3B1 and imported my SM1 profile. (It took much much longer than the SM2 import.) Oddly, it got the sigfile path correct for the default email account but screwed up the other 17 email and news accounts exactly the way the SM2 import did: It copied the sigfile to the TB profile and changed the path in those other 17 accounts. Can you file a bug against SeaMonkey, CC me, and cite this result? (I'm not 100% sure who is /right/ here but I can *try* and look into it, at least a bug will help us all) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470801 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470805 Also of note is TB also has a bug here, either fix all or fix none imo. More alarmingly, it appears that it over-wrote my TB2 profile. Not that I care since I only use TB for testing. Sounds like a TB bug which may likely be worth filing. I can't confirm the over-writing of the profile although I am pretty sure that's what happened. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net The Space Shuttle ends where the subway begins. There's a tear on the face of the moon - Gordon Lightfoot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2 profile import issue
On 12/17/2008 1:31 AM, Ed Mullen wrote: When I installed SM 2 it imported my 1.1.13 profile. Seems to be working fine. Until a friend noted that every email has the same signature. I use a program called Pick-A-Tag to randomly generate a sig file. So I checked and the SM import changed the path for the sig file in every mail and news account I have. Original path in the SM 1.1.13 prefs.js is: G:\\My Documents\\pick_a_tag_destination.txt Path in SM 2 profile's prefs.js is: C:\\Documents and Settings\\Ed\\Application Data\\Mozilla\\SeaMonkey\\Profiles\\bxp1ogrw.default\\pick_a_tag_destination.txt And the import process copied the original file to my profile. I cannot imagine the logic behind this one. So that the SM2 profile has the actual files used... In general the file used is located in the SM1 profile, I'm not sure on the supported methods here... For reference, can you import your SM(1) profile [hide or delete your SM2 profile temporarily] with TB3b1, and see what happens to your sig(s) in that? -- Thanks, ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
