Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-29 Thread sean nathan

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


n=message=not a Mozillian

pure proof this is trolling... can't possibly be a true Mozillian...

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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-13 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

You need to get an error first.
I have the same problem with SM mail and have learned to use Notepad to 
compose

anything more than one line then paste into SM mail and send.


Not a bad idea, I use the same procedure on web feedback forms. But you 
also can just do a CTRL+S before hitting send if you have been having 
connection issues...


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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-13 Thread Lucas Levrel

Le 11 avril 2018, à 10:16, EE a écrit :


Mozillian wrote:

 Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

 hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

 I have to retype the whole thing.


What does n=message mean?


My guess: wrongly hit N instead of M (for message) (qwerty keyboard), then 
wrongly hit "=" instead of backspace, then proceed with "message", lastly 
be so angry as not to check your message before posting!


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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-12 Thread Paul in Houston, TX

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote on 12-04-18 19:42:

WaltS48 wrote on 12-04-18 17:03:

On 4/12/18 1:48 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 22:33:

Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 06:45:

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?


Why are we obliged to do so ?
I agree with the OP it's stupid to erase the message !


If SeaMonkey saved a draft automatically on every canceled message I foresee a 
number
of folks with burgeoning draft folders...


The problem is not "saving" or "not saving" the problem is that when a send 
operation
is cancelled, the mail must be still present and displayed permitting another 
try to
send.
it's stupid to loose a not-sent message ...


I don't recall ever having to "cancel" a send operation, and still would like 
to know
what is a n=message. Newsgroup message?

Maybe the news server had a problem. Isn't there a Retry or Save option when a 
send
operation fails?


Retry=may be  -  Save=I don't know :But after a certain time, the op did not 
want to
pursue, and cancel the last try ... ending with tha fact that the message 
disappeared
...with the cancel operation.

I just done a test with a mail - the cancel operation let the mail on the 
screen - so
nothing is lost. I had wrongly believed the OP.


You need to get an error first.
I have the same problem with SM mail and have learned to use Notepad to compose
anything more than one line then paste into SM mail and send.

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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-12 Thread Ray_Net

Ray_Net wrote on 12-04-18 19:42:

WaltS48 wrote on 12-04-18 17:03:

On 4/12/18 1:48 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 22:33:

Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 06:45:

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?


Why are we obliged to do so ?
I agree with the OP it's stupid to erase the message !


If SeaMonkey saved a draft automatically on every canceled message 
I foresee a number of folks with burgeoning draft folders...


The problem is not "saving" or "not saving" the problem is that when 
a send operation is cancelled, the mail must be still present and 
displayed permitting another try to send.

it's stupid to loose a not-sent message ...


I don't recall ever having to "cancel" a send operation, and still 
would like to know what is a n=message. Newsgroup message?


Maybe the news server had a problem. Isn't there a Retry or Save 
option when a send operation fails?


Retry=may be  -  Save=I don't know :But after a certain time, the op 
did not want to pursue, and cancel the last try ... ending with tha 
fact that the message disappeared ...with the cancel operation.
I just done a test with a mail - the cancel operation let the mail on 
the screen - so nothing is lost. I had wrongly believed the OP.

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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-12 Thread Ray_Net

WaltS48 wrote on 12-04-18 17:03:

On 4/12/18 1:48 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 22:33:

Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 06:45:

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?


Why are we obliged to do so ?
I agree with the OP it's stupid to erase the message !


If SeaMonkey saved a draft automatically on every canceled message I 
foresee a number of folks with burgeoning draft folders...


The problem is not "saving" or "not saving" the problem is that when 
a send operation is cancelled, the mail must be still present and 
displayed permitting another try to send.

it's stupid to loose a not-sent message ...


I don't recall ever having to "cancel" a send operation, and still 
would like to know what is a n=message. Newsgroup message?


Maybe the news server had a problem. Isn't there a Retry or Save 
option when a send operation fails?


Retry=may be  -  Save=I don't know :But after a certain time, the op did 
not want to pursue, and cancel the last try ... ending with tha fact 
that the message disappeared ...with the cancel operation.

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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-12 Thread Ed Mullen

On 4/11/2018 at 1:55 PM, Ray_Net created this epitome of digital genius:

Ed Mullen wrote on 11-04-18 19:42:

On 4/11/2018 at 8:25 AM, WaltS48 created this epitome of digital genius:

On 4/11/18 2:15 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 06:45:

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?


Why are we obliged to do so ?



It's something called CYA. You can set SeaMonkey to "Automatically 
save the message every 1 minute".


Where is this pref in the UI?



Edit - Preference - Mails - Composition - Atomatically...


Duh!  Thanks.


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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-12 Thread WaltS48

On 4/12/18 1:48 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 22:33:

Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 06:45:

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?


Why are we obliged to do so ?
I agree with the OP it's stupid to erase the message !


If SeaMonkey saved a draft automatically on every canceled message I 
foresee a number of folks with burgeoning draft folders...


The problem is not "saving" or "not saving" the problem is that when a 
send operation is cancelled, the mail must be still present and 
displayed permitting another try to send.

it's stupid to loose a not-sent message ...


I don't recall ever having to "cancel" a send operation, and still would 
like to know what is a n=message. Newsgroup message?


Maybe the news server had a problem. Isn't there a Retry or Save option 
when a send operation fails?


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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-11 Thread Ray_Net

Alexander Yudenitsch wrote on 12-04-18 00:23:

Jonathan N. Little wrote, on 11 Apr 18 17:33:


If SeaMonkey saved a draft automatically on every canceled message I
foresee a number of folks with burgeoning draft folders...


If I create a draft, edit it, and then try to cancel the edited draft, 
I get a pop-up window asking:



Message has not been sent. Do you want to save the message in your
drafts folder (Drafts)?
'Save' 'Don't Save' 'Cancel'


Wae are not speaking about cancelling an edited draft, we are speaking 
about cancelling a send-operation.

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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-11 Thread Ray_Net

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 22:33:

Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 06:45:

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?


Why are we obliged to do so ?
I agree with the OP it's stupid to erase the message !


If SeaMonkey saved a draft automatically on every canceled message I 
foresee a number of folks with burgeoning draft folders...


The problem is not "saving" or "not saving" the problem is that when a 
send operation is cancelled, the mail must be still present and 
displayed permitting another try to send.

it's stupid to loose a not-sent message ...
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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-11 Thread Alexander Yudenitsch

Jonathan N. Little wrote, on 11 Apr 18 17:33:


If SeaMonkey saved a draft automatically on every canceled message I
foresee a number of folks with burgeoning draft folders...


If I create a draft, edit it, and then try to cancel the edited draft, I 
get a pop-up window asking:



Message has not been sent. Do you want to save the message in your
drafts folder (Drafts)?
'Save' 'Don't Save' 'Cancel'


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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-11 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 06:45:

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?


Why are we obliged to do so ?
I agree with the OP it's stupid to erase the message !


If SeaMonkey saved a draft automatically on every canceled message I 
foresee a number of folks with burgeoning draft folders...


Easier to delete unnecessary messages than recreate lost ones.

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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-11 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 06:45:

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?


Why are we obliged to do so ?
I agree with the OP it's stupid to erase the message !


If SeaMonkey saved a draft automatically on every canceled message I 
foresee a number of folks with burgeoning draft folders...


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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-11 Thread Ray_Net

Ray_Net wrote on 11-04-18 17:45:

WaltS48 wrote on 11-04-18 14:25:

On 4/11/18 2:15 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 06:45:

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?


Why are we obliged to do so ?



It's something called CYA. You can set SeaMonkey to "Automatically 
save the message every 1 minute".


When you cancel a sending operation, I did believe that the message is 
saved in that case. I think that all is gone away.

I did NOT believe...
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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-11 Thread Ed Mullen

On 4/11/2018 at 8:25 AM, WaltS48 created this epitome of digital genius:

On 4/11/18 2:15 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 06:45:

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?


Why are we obliged to do so ?



It's something called CYA. You can set SeaMonkey to "Automatically save 
the message every 1 minute".


Where is this pref in the UI?


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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-11 Thread EE

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


What does n=message mean?

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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-11 Thread Ray_Net

WaltS48 wrote on 11-04-18 14:25:

On 4/11/18 2:15 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 06:45:

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?


Why are we obliged to do so ?



It's something called CYA. You can set SeaMonkey to "Automatically 
save the message every 1 minute".


When you cancel a sending operation, I did believe that the message is 
saved in that case. I think that all is gone away.

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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-11 Thread WaltS48

On 4/11/18 2:15 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 06:45:

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?


Why are we obliged to do so ?



It's something called CYA. You can set SeaMonkey to "Automatically save 
the message every 1 minute".




I agree with the OP it's stupid to erase the message !



What is a n=message?


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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-11 Thread Ray_Net

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 06:45:

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?


Why are we obliged to do so ?
I agree with the OP it's stupid to erase the message !
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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-10 Thread Daniel

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11/04/18 14:45:

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?

Alternatively, when a Send fails, maybe a box stating the fail and 
offering to "try again", "save" or "Quit" would be nice!!


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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-10 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?

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