Re: Sending multiple e-mails to multiple people, but showing To: address?
On 11/3/2010 8:19 AM PT, Beauregard T. Shagnasty typed: You can't do that while using multiples in BCC:, except if you want to divulge one of them to all the rest. Or send separate emails one at a time. Yes, I want to show eahc reciever's e-mail from a single mass e-mail. Darn, there's no way then. Thanks. -- A coconut shell full of water is a(n) sea/ocean to an ant. --Indians /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sending multiple e-mails to multiple people, but showing To: address?
Ant wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty typed: You can't do that while using multiples in BCC:, except if you want to divulge one of them to all the rest. Or send separate emails one at a time. Yes, I want to show eahc reciever's [sic] e-mail from a single mass e-mail. Darn, there's no way then. Thanks. Well, there is, but you can't do it with Thunderbird. If you have only some dozen(s) of recipients, it's easiest to make a template, and manually send to each person. Other alternatives include: 1. using an emailing service to send separate messages in one batch. 2. writing some code in a server-side language using your web server. I do #2 for a club I belong to for sending individually-addressed email to all the members, usually for notices about expired dues. I utilize a database for this, too. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sending multiple e-mails to multiple people, but showing To: address?
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Ant wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty typed: You can't do that while using multiples in BCC:, except if you want to divulge one of them to all the rest. Or send separate emails one at a time. Yes, I want to show eahc reciever's [sic] e-mail from a single mass e-mail. Darn, there's no way then. Thanks. Well, there is, but you can't do it with Thunderbird. If you have only some dozen(s) of recipients, it's easiest to make a template, and manually send to each person. Other alternatives include: 1. using an emailing service to send separate messages in one batch. 2. writing some code in a server-side language using your web server. I do #2 for a club I belong to for sending individually-addressed email to all the members, usually for notices about expired dues. I utilize a database for this, too. One could use SendMail in a batch job to send a single copy to each recipient. I wish SeaMonkey could be used from the command line! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sending multiple e-mails to multiple people, but showing To: address?
On 11/4/2010 7:18 AM PT, Rick Merrill typed: You can't do that while using multiples in BCC:, except if you want to divulge one of them to all the rest. Or send separate emails one at a time. Yes, I want to show eahc reciever's [sic] e-mail from a single mass e-mail. Darn, there's no way then. Thanks. Well, there is, but you can't do it with Thunderbird. If you have only some dozen(s) of recipients, it's easiest to make a template, and manually send to each person. Other alternatives include: 1. using an emailing service to send separate messages in one batch. 2. writing some code in a server-side language using your web server. I do #2 for a club I belong to for sending individually-addressed email to all the members, usually for notices about expired dues. I utilize a database for this, too. One could use SendMail in a batch job to send a single copy to each recipient. I wish SeaMonkey could be used from the command line! Yeah, I was hoiping from good old SeaMonkey's e-mail client. Thanks everyone! :) -- Ants are so much like human beings as to be an embarrassment. They farm fungi, raise aphids as livestock, launch armies into wars, use chemical sprays to alarm and confuse enemies, capture slaves. The families of weaver ants engage in child labor, holding their larvae like shuttles to spin out the thread that sews the leaves together for their fungus gardens. They exchange information ceaselessly. They do everything but watch television. --Lewis Thomas /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sending multiple e-mails to multiple people, but showing To: address?
Ant wrote: I know BCC and CC exists. BCC is nice but I don't want to have To not show To: undisclosed-recipients. I do want to show the name I entered. Is there a way to have SeaMonkey show the name when I send to multiple people, without showing other names and letting them know it is a BCC, from one e-mail I send? The normal practice to avoid undisclosed-recipients is to place your own email address in the TO: field. Since you are sending to multiple BCC: people, are you suggesting that you want each *recipient's* name in the TO: field that /they/ see? You can't do that while using multiples in BCC:, except if you want to divulge one of them to all the rest. Or send separate emails one at a time. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sending multiple e-mails to multiple people, but showing To: address?
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: The normal practice to avoid undisclosed-recipients is to place your own email address in the TO: field. Since you are sending to multiple BCC: people, are you suggesting that you want each *recipient's* name in the TO: field that /they/ see? You can't do that while using multiples in BCC:, except if you want to divulge one of them to all the rest. Or send separate emails one at a time. My recent experience is that this method triggers SPAM filters at the ISP-level. As soon as I stopped doing this the bounced mails stopped. The problems were with comcast, yahoo, frontiernet, and att. There are some very serious problems with the interference to Internet communications by arbitrary/unaccountable ISP-level filters that need to be addressed. But that is another discussion for another list. -- Thanks! 73, doc, KD4E http://KD4E.com Have an http://ultrafidian.com day Defend free speech or lose your freedom. I don't google I SEARCH! http://ixquick.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sending multiple e-mails to multiple people, but showing To: address?
My recent experience is that this method triggers SPAM filters at the ISP-level. Which method? Yourself in the TO:? Or undisclosed-recipients? Putting my E-mail in the TO: field and BCC below that. It worked fine for almost 2 years, then the bounces started one ISP at a time. Something wrong with their filters mishandled it and there is not a good way to get them to fix it. In the 21st Century E-mail needs to be protected like First Class Mail. -- Thanks! 73, doc, KD4E http://KD4E.com Have an http://ultrafidian.com day Defend free speech or lose your freedom. I don't google I SEARCH! http://ixquick.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sending multiple e-mails to multiple people, but showing To: address?
d...@kd4e.com wrote: Beauregard wrote: doc wrote: My recent experience is that this method triggers SPAM filters at the ISP-level. Which method? Yourself in the TO:? Or undisclosed-recipients? Putting my E-mail in the TO: field and BCC below that. It worked fine for almost 2 years, then the bounces started one ISP at a time.Something wrong with their filters mishandled it and there is not a good way to get them to fix it. So .. you are getting bounces from the recipients' ISPs. Try placing fewer, say less than 25, in the BCC:s. If you are composing these emails manually, try to split up the ISP domain names as well, e.g. only a couple of each ISP in each email. In the 21st Century E-mail needs to be protected like First Class Mail. I'll agree, but don't hold your breath. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sending multiple e-mails to multiple people, but showing To: address?
Putting my E-mail in the TO: field and BCC below that. It worked fine for almost 2 years, then the bounces started one ISP at a time.Something wrong with their filters mishandled it and there is not a good way to get them to fix it. So .. you are getting bounces from the recipients' ISPs. Try placing fewer, say less than 25, in the BCC:s. If you are composing these emails manually, try to split up the ISP domain names as well, e.g. only a couple of each ISP in each email. There is a single sub-folder in my Address Book which I was placing in the BCC field with about 35 recipients in it. In the 21st Century E-mail needs to be protected like First Class Mail. I'll agree, but don't hold your breath. Failure is not an option - it is simply a matter of applying a sufficient amount of pressure upon the right elected officials and bureaucrats. One way to begin is to tweak members of the media - reminding them that their E-mail (and that of their family and friends) is vulnerable to arbitrary blocking and that they will have no reliable recourse. Do the same with bureaucrats and elected officials and their families. Make it personal to them and they will act. Enlightened self-interest is a powerful motivator. -- Thanks! 73, doc, KD4E http://KD4E.com Have an http://ultrafidian.com day Defend free speech or lose your freedom. I don't google I SEARCH! http://ixquick.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sending multiple e-mails to multiple people, but showing To: address?
d...@kd4e.com wrote: My recent experience is that this method triggers SPAM filters at the ISP-level. Which method? Yourself in the TO:? Or undisclosed-recipients? Putting my E-mail in the TO: field and BCC below that. It worked fine for almost 2 years, then the bounces started one ISP at a time. Something wrong with their filters mishandled it and there is not a good way to get them to fix it. In the 21st Century E-mail needs to be protected like First Class Mail. If having the TO and FROM addresses the same is a problem, then why not just get yourself another address (yahoo, gmail, hotmail...) and use that in the TO field? Unless it is really the BCC that is causing the problem... -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
