Re: Spam in e-mails...?

2009-04-01 Thread Cedar

Daniel wrote:

Cedar wrote:
Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new 
version of sm doing this?  or would it more likely be avg antivirus or 
something?


Cedar, when you say Something is marking some of my e-mails with 
[spam], what do you mean??


The others have told you that your ISP may be marking your mail with 
SpamAssassin and such, but are you meaning that when you look at an 
email, you get a line in the display saying something like SeaMonkey 
thinks this is a Spam message? (or is that Scam or Junk?).


If it's Junk, you can train SM so that it recognises Junk and 
automatically removes the message to your Junk file, or deletes it.


If it says Scam, I don't know that you can train SM to do anything, 
except to let you know which messages it thinks are sus...


Daniel


Wow!  Thanks for all the responses, guys!  Daniel:  What I mean is 
pretty much exactly what I stated earlier, the subject lines are being 
altered with this exact term [SPAM] inserted at the beginning of each of 
the ones it thinks are spam.   I think I might have it figured out now, 
as I found a place in avg to configure choices that sound exactly like 
this...so, hopefully, that does the trick!

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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

2009-04-01 Thread Jay Garcia

On 01.04.2009 02:04, John Doue wrote:

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Jay Garcia wrote:

On 31.03.2009 10:35, John Doue wrote:

 --- Original Message ---


Jay Garcia wrote:

On 31.03.2009 09:01, John Doue wrote:

 --- Original Message ---


Cedar wrote:
Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new 
version of sm doing this?  or would it more likely be avg 
antivirus or something?
If this is something like  [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 03.8/3.0], this 
is probably the antispam filter of your ISP or email provider. This 
feature (I call this a nuisance actually, but it can be use to 
filter incoming emails) can sometimes be turn off on the ISP/email 
provider site.




A nuisance ?? If you were one of my mail customers you would be 
singing a different tune. We flag over 8,000 spam messages daily, 
most of which are rejected by our blacklists (the customer never 
sees these).




Jay,

You misunderstood me, meaning I was not clear enough. Of course, spam 
filters are more than useful, they are a necessity (I am a spamcop 
user, I should know!).


What is a nuisance IMHO are ISP filters that let mail go through but 
add the spam score in the objet line. Unless this is user configurable.


Those scores should be transparent at the end user level.


Spamassassin is user-configurable, the default threshold is 5. Any 
message 5 or higher gets flagged. You, the user, can increase/decrease 
the default.


The issue raised by the OP was why should SPAM be inserted in the 
object of an email.




Correct, and the answers have been very much ON-Topic.

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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

2009-04-01 Thread Keith Whaley

John Doue wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 31.03.2009 10:35, John Doue wrote:

 --- Original Message ---


Jay Garcia wrote:

On 31.03.2009 09:01, John Doue wrote:

 --- Original Message ---


Cedar wrote:
Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new 
version of sm doing this?  or would it more likely be avg 
antivirus or something?
If this is something like  [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 03.8/3.0], this 
is probably the antispam filter of your ISP or email provider. This 
feature (I call this a nuisance actually, but it can be use to 
filter incoming emails) can sometimes be turn off on the ISP/email 
provider site.




A nuisance ?? If you were one of my mail customers you would be 
singing a different tune. We flag over 8,000 spam messages daily, 
most of which are rejected by our blacklists (the customer never 
sees these).




Jay,

You misunderstood me, meaning I was not clear enough. Of course, spam 
filters are more than useful, they are a necessity (I am a spamcop 
user, I should know!).


What is a nuisance IMHO are ISP filters that let mail go through but 
add the spam score in the objet line. Unless this is user configurable.


Those scores should be transparent at the end user level.


Spamassassin is user-configurable, the default threshold is 5. Any 
message 5 or higher gets flagged. You, the user, can increase/decrease 
the default.


The issue raised by the OP was why should SPAM be inserted in the 
object of an email.



 John Doue

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Object? I know what the Subject line or 'bar' is, what is the Object? The body 
of the mail?


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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

2009-04-01 Thread John Doue

Keith Whaley wrote:

John Doue wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 31.03.2009 10:35, John Doue wrote:

 --- Original Message ---


Jay Garcia wrote:

On 31.03.2009 09:01, John Doue wrote:

 --- Original Message ---


Cedar wrote:
Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new 
version of sm doing this?  or would it more likely be avg 
antivirus or something?
If this is something like  [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 03.8/3.0], this 
is probably the antispam filter of your ISP or email provider. 
This feature (I call this a nuisance actually, but it can be use 
to filter incoming emails) can sometimes be turn off on the 
ISP/email provider site.




A nuisance ?? If you were one of my mail customers you would be 
singing a different tune. We flag over 8,000 spam messages daily, 
most of which are rejected by our blacklists (the customer never 
sees these).




Jay,

You misunderstood me, meaning I was not clear enough. Of course, 
spam filters are more than useful, they are a necessity (I am a 
spamcop user, I should know!).


What is a nuisance IMHO are ISP filters that let mail go through but 
add the spam score in the objet line. Unless this is user configurable.


Those scores should be transparent at the end user level.


Spamassassin is user-configurable, the default threshold is 5. Any 
message 5 or higher gets flagged. You, the user, can 
increase/decrease the default.


The issue raised by the OP was why should SPAM be inserted in the 
object of an email.



  John Doue

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Object? I know what the Subject line or 'bar' is, what is the Object? 
The body of the mail?


keith whaley


Sorry, I meant Subject.

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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

2009-04-01 Thread Daniel

Cedar wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Cedar wrote:
Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new 
version of sm doing this?  or would it more likely be avg antivirus 
or something?


Cedar, when you say Something is marking some of my e-mails with 
[spam], what do you mean??


The others have told you that your ISP may be marking your mail with 
SpamAssassin and such, but are you meaning that when you look at an 
email, you get a line in the display saying something like SeaMonkey 
thinks this is a Spam message? (or is that Scam or Junk?).


If it's Junk, you can train SM so that it recognises Junk and 
automatically removes the message to your Junk file, or deletes it.


If it says Scam, I don't know that you can train SM to do anything, 
except to let you know which messages it thinks are sus...


Daniel


Wow!  Thanks for all the responses, guys!  Daniel:  What I mean is 
pretty much exactly what I stated earlier, the subject lines are being 
altered with this exact term [SPAM] inserted at the beginning of each of 
the ones it thinks are spam.   I think I might have it figured out now, 
as I found a place in avg to configure choices that sound exactly like 
this...so, hopefully, that does the trick!


Here's hoping!!

Daniel
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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

2009-04-01 Thread Leonidas Jones

Daniel wrote:

Cedar wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Cedar wrote:

Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new
version of sm doing this? or would it more likely be avg antivirus
or something?


Cedar, when you say Something is marking some of my e-mails with
[spam], what do you mean??

The others have told you that your ISP may be marking your mail with
SpamAssassin and such, but are you meaning that when you look at an
email, you get a line in the display saying something like SeaMonkey
thinks this is a Spam message? (or is that Scam or Junk?).

If it's Junk, you can train SM so that it recognises Junk and
automatically removes the message to your Junk file, or deletes it.

If it says Scam, I don't know that you can train SM to do anything,
except to let you know which messages it thinks are sus...

Daniel


Wow! Thanks for all the responses, guys! Daniel: What I mean is pretty
much exactly what I stated earlier, the subject lines are being
altered with this exact term [SPAM] inserted at the beginning of each
of the ones it thinks are spam. I think I might have it figured out
now, as I found a place in avg to configure choices that sound exactly
like this...so, hopefully, that does the trick!


Here's hoping!!

Daniel


Yes indeed, and please let us know the result!

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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

2009-04-01 Thread Cedar

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Cedar wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Cedar wrote:

Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new
version of sm doing this? or would it more likely be avg antivirus
or something?


Cedar, when you say Something is marking some of my e-mails with
[spam], what do you mean??

The others have told you that your ISP may be marking your mail with
SpamAssassin and such, but are you meaning that when you look at an
email, you get a line in the display saying something like SeaMonkey
thinks this is a Spam message? (or is that Scam or Junk?).

If it's Junk, you can train SM so that it recognises Junk and
automatically removes the message to your Junk file, or deletes it.

If it says Scam, I don't know that you can train SM to do anything,
except to let you know which messages it thinks are sus...

Daniel


Wow! Thanks for all the responses, guys! Daniel: What I mean is pretty
much exactly what I stated earlier, the subject lines are being
altered with this exact term [SPAM] inserted at the beginning of each
of the ones it thinks are spam. I think I might have it figured out
now, as I found a place in avg to configure choices that sound exactly
like this...so, hopefully, that does the trick!


Here's hoping!!

Daniel


Yes indeed, and please let us know the result!

Lee


Yep!  Looks like that was it, sorry for bugging you guys on this one 
needlessly (but my hair was gettin' thinner by the minute...don't 
even know why that spam thing bugs me so much!)  Anyway, I've received a 
few e-mails that were previously marked with this spam marking, that 
today do not have spam added in to the subject line.  So...thanks 
anyway, guys.

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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

2009-03-31 Thread Leonidas Jones

Cedar wrote:

Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new version
of sm doing this? or would it more likely be avg antivirus or something?


Maybe, or something on your ISP's end.  Its not SM.

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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

2009-03-31 Thread Jay Garcia

On 31.03.2009 04:47, Cedar wrote:

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Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new version 
of sm doing this?  or would it more likely be avg antivirus or something?


Contact your ISP, they may be using SpamAssassin to flag ***SPAM*** in 
the subject line of your received email. Also, you may have a cpanel 
available at your ISP where you can adjust your own personal spam settings.


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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

2009-03-31 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Cedar wrote:
Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new version 
of sm doing this?  or would it more likely be avg antivirus or something?


it can be one of several things.  First, check with 
your email provider.  If no, then check with your anti 
virus, and your firewall.  These have been known to add 
things to the subject matter.


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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

2009-03-31 Thread Jay Garcia

On 31.03.2009 09:01, John Doue wrote:

 --- Original Message ---


Cedar wrote:
Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new 
version of sm doing this?  or would it more likely be avg antivirus or 
something?
If this is something like  [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 03.8/3.0], this is 
probably the antispam filter of your ISP or email provider. This feature 
(I call this a nuisance actually, but it can be use to filter incoming 
emails) can sometimes be turn off on the ISP/email provider site.




A nuisance ?? If you were one of my mail customers you would be 
singing a different tune. We flag over 8,000 spam messages daily, most 
of which are rejected by our blacklists (the customer never sees these).



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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

2009-03-31 Thread Daniel

Cedar wrote:
Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new version 
of sm doing this?  or would it more likely be avg antivirus or something?


Cedar, when you say Something is marking some of my e-mails with 
[spam], what do you mean??


The others have told you that your ISP may be marking your mail with 
SpamAssassin and such, but are you meaning that when you look at an 
email, you get a line in the display saying something like SeaMonkey 
thinks this is a Spam message? (or is that Scam or Junk?).


If it's Junk, you can train SM so that it recognises Junk and 
automatically removes the message to your Junk file, or deletes it.


If it says Scam, I don't know that you can train SM to do anything, 
except to let you know which messages it thinks are sus...


Daniel
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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

2009-03-31 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Daniel wrote:

If it says Scam, I don't know that you can train SM to do anything, 
except to let you know which messages it thinks are sus...


no you can't, but you can turn it off.

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