Re: Subject: Re: Where To Install SM2..

2009-10-28 Thread JAS
James wrote:
 I just updated and as far as I can see the entire old Seamonkey is
 gone [overwritten] just like the Seamonkey site tells you it's going
 to be.  I just wondered where you got the idea that it wouldn't do
 what they specifically tell you it _will_ do.  Perhaps in a Beta???

 Anyway, clicking on my old shortcut to Seamonkey 1.x now loads
 Seamonkey 2.0 and I don't see the old one anywhere.  It's probably not
 a good idea to keep telling people they'll still have the old version
 to fall back on when the download page tells you that you won't. 
 Maybe if you installed it in some other location???

 I'm using Vista Home Basic 64 bit.

 James
 .
 .


 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:44:07 -0400
 From: Leonidas Jonesleonidasjo...@netscape.net
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 James wrote:
   
   Then why is this note on the Seamonkey page under Installation?
 
 
 
 
   Installation
 
   Please note that installing SeaMonkey 2.0 will overwrite your
 existing
   installation of SeaMonkey. You won't lose any of your bookmarks,
   browsing history or mail and news messages, but some of your
   extensions and other add-ons might not work until updates for
 them are
   made available.
 

   .
   .
   Thanks,
   James
   .
   .
 
   First of all, even if you install SM 2.0 in the default
 location, it
   will not overwrite the existing SM 1.1.x. It installs to its own
   location, and sets up a new profile in a new location. As long
 as you
   do not uninstall SM 1.1.x, you cn easily run the two
 independently of
   each other.

 
 
  
 Well, all I can say is that installing 2.0 on Win XP SP3 installed to a
 separate SeaMonkey folder in Program Files, leaving 1.1.14 untouched in
 the mozilla.org folder.

 On the other hand, on Mac OS X, I installed it as instructed to
 Applications, which did overwrite 1.1.18.

 At least that is what happened to me.

 Lee


You might check the properties of the old Seamonkey shortcut-mine was
changed to go to the new install and I had to point it to my old
installation and then everything was OK.

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Re: Subject: Re: Where To Install SM2..

2009-10-27 Thread psuatocobra
On Oct 27, 9:44 pm, Leonidas Jones leonidasjo...@netscape.net wrote:
 James wrote:
  Then why is this note on the Seamonkey page under Installation?

  Installation

  Please note that installing SeaMonkey 2.0 will overwrite your existing
  installation of SeaMonkey. You won't lose any of your bookmarks,
  browsing history or mail and news messages, but some of your
  extensions and other add-ons might not work until updates for them are
  made available.

  .
  .
  Thanks,
  James
  .
  .
  First of all, even if you install SM 2.0 in the default location, it
  will not overwrite the existing SM 1.1.x. It installs to its own
  location, and sets up a new profile in a new location. As long as you
  do not uninstall SM 1.1.x, you cn easily run the two independently of
  each other.

 Well, all I can say is that installing 2.0 on Win XP SP3 installed to a
 separate SeaMonkey folder in Program Files, leaving 1.1.14 untouched in
 the mozilla.org folder.

 On the other hand, on Mac OS X, I installed it as instructed to
 Applications, which did overwrite 1.1.18.

 At least that is what happened to me.

 Lee

Do both SM 1.1.x  SM 2.0 appear in Add/Remove programs? I'm also
running Win XP SP3 and want to give SM 2.0 a try. But, the prospect of
being able to run both SM 1.1.x  SM 2.0 for at least a while is
desirable.

Thanks,
---psuatocobra
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Re: Subject: Re: Where To Install SM2..

2009-10-27 Thread Leonidas Jones

James wrote:

I just updated and as far as I can see the entire old Seamonkey is gone
[overwritten] just like the Seamonkey site tells you it's going to be. I
just wondered where you got the idea that it wouldn't do what they
specifically tell you it _will_ do. Perhaps in a Beta???

Anyway, clicking on my old shortcut to Seamonkey 1.x now loads Seamonkey
2.0 and I don't see the old one anywhere. It's probably not a good idea
to keep telling people they'll still have the old version to fall back
on when the download page tells you that you won't. Maybe if you
installed it in some other location???

I'm using Vista Home Basic 64 bit.

James
.
.



Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:44:07 -0400
From: Leonidas Jonesleonidasjo...@netscape.net
To:support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Where To Install SM2..
Message-ID:muqdnulqesz6phrxnz2dnuvz_gqdn...@mozilla.org
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James wrote:

 Then why is this note on the Seamonkey page under Installation?




 Installation

 Please note that installing SeaMonkey 2.0 will overwrite your
existing
 installation of SeaMonkey. You won't lose any of your bookmarks,
 browsing history or mail and news messages, but some of your
 extensions and other add-ons might not work until updates for
them are
 made available.


 .
 .
 Thanks,
 James
 .
 .

 First of all, even if you install SM 2.0 in the default location, it
 will not overwrite the existing SM 1.1.x. It installs to its own
 location, and sets up a new profile in a new location. As long as
you
 do not uninstall SM 1.1.x, you cn easily run the two
independently of
 each other.




Well, all I can say is that installing 2.0 on Win XP SP3 installed to a
separate SeaMonkey folder in Program Files, leaving 1.1.14 untouched in
the mozilla.org folder.

On the other hand, on Mac OS X, I installed it as instructed to
Applications, which did overwrite 1.1.18.

At least that is what happened to me.

Lee




Okay, my testing has been done on XP Pro sp3, as I have been stating 
right along.  I don't know how it will behave on Vista.


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Re: Subject: Re: Where To Install SM2..

2009-10-27 Thread Leonidas Jones

psuatocobra wrote:

On Oct 27, 9:44 pm, Leonidas Jonesleonidasjo...@netscape.net  wrote:

James wrote:

Then why is this note on the Seamonkey page under Installation?



Installation



Please note that installing SeaMonkey 2.0 will overwrite your existing
installation of SeaMonkey. You won't lose any of your bookmarks,
browsing history or mail and news messages, but some of your
extensions and other add-ons might not work until updates for them are
made available.



.
.
Thanks,
James
.
.

First of all, even if you install SM 2.0 in the default location, it
will not overwrite the existing SM 1.1.x. It installs to its own
location, and sets up a new profile in a new location. As long as you
do not uninstall SM 1.1.x, you cn easily run the two independently of
each other.


Well, all I can say is that installing 2.0 on Win XP SP3 installed to a
separate SeaMonkey folder in Program Files, leaving 1.1.14 untouched in
the mozilla.org folder.

On the other hand, on Mac OS X, I installed it as instructed to
Applications, which did overwrite 1.1.18.

At least that is what happened to me.

Lee


Do both SM 1.1.x  SM 2.0 appear in Add/Remove programs? I'm also
running Win XP SP3 and want to give SM 2.0 a try. But, the prospect of
being able to run both SM 1.1.x  SM 2.0 for at least a while is
desirable.

Thanks,
---psuatocobra


Good question,and I am happy to say the answer is yes, on my XP test 
box, both SM 1.1.14 and 2.0 appear and can be uninstalled.  BOth can be 
started and run.


Do note that the Mail/News data is now separate.  If you download mail 
in 1.1.x and have it deleted from the server, it will not appear in 2.0, 
and reverse.  For your testing period, you may want to have POP accounts 
set to leave copies in the server.


Lee

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Re: Subject: Re: Where To Install SM2..

2009-10-27 Thread Leonidas Jones

James wrote:

I just updated and as far as I can see the entire old Seamonkey is gone
[overwritten] just like the Seamonkey site tells you it's going to be. I
just wondered where you got the idea that it wouldn't do what they
specifically tell you it _will_ do. Perhaps in a Beta???

Anyway, clicking on my old shortcut to Seamonkey 1.x now loads Seamonkey
2.0 and I don't see the old one anywhere. It's probably not a good idea
to keep telling people they'll still have the old version to fall back
on when the download page tells you that you won't. Maybe if you
installed it in some other location???

I'm using Vista Home Basic 64 bit.

James
.
.



Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:44:07 -0400
From: Leonidas Jonesleonidasjo...@netscape.net
To:support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Where To Install SM2..
Message-ID:muqdnulqesz6phrxnz2dnuvz_gqdn...@mozilla.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

James wrote:

 Then why is this note on the Seamonkey page under Installation?




 Installation

 Please note that installing SeaMonkey 2.0 will overwrite your
existing
 installation of SeaMonkey. You won't lose any of your bookmarks,
 browsing history or mail and news messages, but some of your
 extensions and other add-ons might not work until updates for
them are
 made available.


 .
 .
 Thanks,
 James
 .
 .

 First of all, even if you install SM 2.0 in the default location, it
 will not overwrite the existing SM 1.1.x. It installs to its own
 location, and sets up a new profile in a new location. As long as
you
 do not uninstall SM 1.1.x, you cn easily run the two
independently of
 each other.




Well, all I can say is that installing 2.0 on Win XP SP3 installed to a
separate SeaMonkey folder in Program Files, leaving 1.1.14 untouched in
the mozilla.org folder.

On the other hand, on Mac OS X, I installed it as instructed to
Applications, which did overwrite 1.1.18.

At least that is what happened to me.

Lee




Okay, I have installed SM 1.1.18 on Vista Ultimate, 64.  Here is the 
path to the program:


C:\Program Files (x86)\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey\SeaMonkey.exe

This opens 1.1.18.  The profile is here:

C:\users\(username)\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Profiles\(profilename\.slt

I then installed SM 2.0, and migrated the profile data.  the progarm is 
here:


C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\SeaMonkey.exe

The profile is here:

C:\users\(username)\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\.default

By navigating to the exe in the appropriate Programs File folder, I can 
open either. You can tell easily by the different default theme.  (By 
the way, the default 2.0 theme is a great improvement!)


It is true that when 2.0 is installed, the desktop shortcut will point 
to it.  But my navigating to the exe in Program Files 
(x86)\mozilla.org\Seamonkey\, you can open 1.1.18, with its distinct 
profile. You can even create a separate desktop shortcut pointing to 
that version.


Lee

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