Re: need administrator privileges to in stall?

2009-03-21 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Jim wrote:

My question still stands --

Has there been a change in the way Sea Monkey installs? 


no


 It has never
required me to log in as an administrator before the current change to
install new releases.


the problem is at your end.  Perhaps you think you're 
logged in as an admin, but you're really not.


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Re: need administrator privileges to in stall?

2009-03-20 Thread Jim
My question still stands --

Has there been a change in the way Sea Monkey installs?  It has never
required me to log in as an administrator before the current change to
install new releases.

BTW, I talked to IT today, and they restored my PR account, so I could
log in as an administrator to do those things requiring administrator
privileges.

Jim

Michael Gordon wrote:
snip
 As a user anytime you install, or upgrade a program Windows XP should
 halt the install application and declare the installation requires admin
 authority to install.
 
/snip
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Re: need administrator privileges to in stall?

2009-03-19 Thread Michael Gordon

Jim replied On 3/19/2009 9:42 PM


Hi all--

I tried to install SM 1.1.15 at work today, and the installation package
complained about me not being logged in as administrator.  Is this
something new, or do I have to beg to IT to have administrator
priveleges?  (Never saw that message in previous SM installs).

Our IT department has the policy that you must log in as administrator
at least once a month, or you lose your privileges.  I guess I didn't
for one month :(


Jim,

What your IT department did was rather strange in that they allowed you 
to have admin authority over your Win XP PC.  What they did was create 
an account for you on your PC that has user authority, that is to run 
installed programs, but they were also very nice to you in giving you 
access to the admin login.


The first part is for PC local security so users won't install something 
harmful to the PC or the local network, the second part is to remove 
some of the IT workload of installing software, or approving software 
for the network systems.


As a user anytime you install, or upgrade a program Windows XP should 
halt the install application and declare the installation requires admin 
authority to install.


The requirement to login once a month as the admin to retain your your 
authority is one method IT has to control employee movement within the 
organization and outside the organization.


Michael
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Re: need administrator privileges to in stall?

2009-03-19 Thread Jim
Michael--

There are many things for which we need administrator's privileges at
work.  We have our workstation PCs in our cubes, where we can crunch
data, feed our faces, and guzzle coffee, and our instruments in our lab
that control our analytical instruments (gas chromatographs, mass
spectrometers, etc.)  We all have administrator rights on those
machines, because the controlling software needs them to run.

Regarding installing something harmful on our local network or PCs, not
being an administrator would never prevent us from doing that.  We are
good at destroying things :)

Jim

 Jim,
 
 What your IT department did was rather strange in that they allowed you
 to have admin authority over your Win XP PC.  What they did was create
 an account for you on your PC that has user authority, that is to run
 installed programs, but they were also very nice to you in giving you
 access to the admin login.
 
 The first part is for PC local security so users won't install something
 harmful to the PC or the local network, the second part is to remove
 some of the IT workload of installing software, or approving software
 for the network systems.
 
 As a user anytime you install, or upgrade a program Windows XP should
 halt the install application and declare the installation requires admin
 authority to install.
 
 The requirement to login once a month as the admin to retain your your
 authority is one method IT has to control employee movement within the
 organization and outside the organization.
 
 Michael
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