[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-19 Thread -
Hi, I think you're making a mistake in forcing new people into the beta test freenet 0.7 instead of the established 0.5. You're forgetting how _highly_ someone new has to be motivated to try freenet, even version 0.5 which works and is not a beta test. Let's think about what would motivate

Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-19 Thread Matthew Toseland
The installer for 0.7 is way better than the (unmaintained) installer for 0.5. And we simply don't have the resources to maintain both branches in any meaningful way. 0.7 is an unstable alpha test, but 0.5 isn't much better. In many ways 0.7's security is better *now*, and it will improve

Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-19 Thread -
Thanks for the response, and I understand your points. The problem is that with 0.7 you're asking potential freenet users to find people in real life that they trust, which didn't happen with freenet 0.5. You're basically asking people to form rings called darknets. I'm sure this scares a

RE: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-19 Thread Nicholas Sturm
Actually, since it is open software and the former 0.5 is extant can't you just do that? - Original Message - From: - To: support@freenetproject.org Sent: 8/19/2006 3:11:05 PM Subject: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7 Hi, I think you're making a mistake in forcing new

Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-19 Thread Matthew Toseland
If you see it like that then you'd better go do something else with your time, because there is no solution. All opennet does is automate the process of finding not very trustworthy people to connect to - people who may well be The Bad Guys. Opennet makes it trivial to harvest and block the

Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-19 Thread -
Ok. I think when we're trying to create an anonymous internet network personal trust should not be involved, that defeats the point. Don't get me wrong, I think freenet is awsome, I'm really impressed bythe programming skill! Think about it though, once the first darknet gets infiltrated,

Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-19 Thread Matthew Toseland
No it wouldn't. Harvesting an opennet is very, very, very easy, because we are constantly exchanging references inside the opennet; all you have to do is set up a node, and listen! Granted on a large network you may have to do Sybil attacks, and use a bit more bandwidth, but this isn't exactly

[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

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[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-19 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

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[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-19 Thread Nicholas Sturm
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[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-19 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-19 Thread -
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[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-19 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-support] 0.7 Install help for w87se

2006-08-19 Thread nob...@mixmaster.it
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