Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 *PLONK*

2006-08-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don't feed the troll Freenet 0.7 is nothing more than yet another in a series of Freenet failures-in-waiting until it proves itself, IMHO, by emerging out of alpha with open-net. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org

[freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Freenet 0.7 build 953

2006-08-29 Thread Ed Tomlinson
On Wednesday 23 August 2006 15:19, Matthew Toseland wrote: - Don't start the updater if the wrapper is broken I have problems with this one. I do not run the wrapper - I do want freenet to download new stable versions and then quit. I have the java command that starts freenet in a loop and

Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread nobody
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread [Anon] Anon User
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Campaigning for Open-Net [WAS Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7]

2006-08-29 Thread [Anon] Anon User
-BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- Message-type: plaintext In [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Through the opennet. Which won't exist for, like, a year. Hmmm. On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node

[freenet-support] Freenet 0.7

2006-08-29 Thread Hartmut Folter
Freenet 0.7 is nothing more than yet another in a series of Freenet failures-in-waiting until it proves itself, IMHO, by emerging out of alpha with open-net. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org

Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread Hartmut Folter
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Aug 2006, at 12:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main network. There might be now, but the idea of

Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread Fake Name
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Aug 2006, at 12:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main network. There might be now, but the idea of

Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread Fake Name
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Aug 2006, at 12:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main network. There might be now, but the idea of

[freenet-support] open net

2006-08-29 Thread null
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread Fake Name
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Aug 2006, at 12:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main network. There might be now, but the idea of

Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread Ortwin Regel
Please stop this spam, you fucking idiots... :-/On 29 Aug 2006 13:10:13 -, Fake Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On 24 Aug 2006, at 12:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens to be

Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread Matthew Toseland
Store files simply cannot be converted as you suggest, because their contents are encrypted; you can download a site from 0.5 and insert it into 0.7, if you know the key. You will probably have to generate a new SSK keypair. You might even be able to spider 0.5 and insert the sites (with new SSK

Re: Campaigning for Open-Net [WAS Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7]

2006-08-29 Thread Matthew Toseland
This is not true. A global darknet is feasible, as I have explained: National barriers, and even language barriers are by no means absolute, and to the extent that they affect the network they can be dealt with. If Freenet provides something of value, we can make a large darknet. AND IF IT ISN'T

Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread Matthew Toseland
Messages from non-subscribers are moderated manually. I was away over the weekend so the messages didn't get approved until today. Maybe I should have checked the actual content of the messages... On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 09:11:03PM +0200, Ortwin Regel wrote: Please stop this spam, you fucking

Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread inverse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please, Do NOT suggest switching to Linux, I've tried it and my hardware will not support it's demands. Again, this is a matter of money that unlike SOME people, I don't have a hell I suggest linux. There are many versions of it, some of them designed to run on

Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread Matthew Toseland
Fair enough. Running a node involves trusting people. Running an opennet node involves trusting total strangers. We can improve on our security against treachery to a degree, so that you don't have to trust your peers quite as much, but the more powerful techniques for improving security, such as

Re: [freenet-support] 0,5 or 0,7 should we move this discussion?

2006-08-29 Thread Matthew Toseland
Sorry. http://freenetproject.org/lists.html provides a list of all the mailing lists; click on Chat, then subscribe your email address. On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 02:18:49PM -0400, Nicholas Sturm wrote: I guess you could move it to a place where many of us don't know how to get too. So much has

RE: Campaigning for Open-Net [WAS Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7]

2006-08-29 Thread Nicholas Sturm
If you pester anyone too much it can be self defeating. Perhaps unintentionally as they consume much time deleting your messages from their files. Or intentionally if they choose to block the excesses traffic. We should all start pestering the hell outta both Ian and Toad to get open-net

[freenet-support] can freenet use this technology?

2006-08-29 Thread remailer
-BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- Message-type: plaintext this tech, or an algo based on it? Quantum cryptographic data network created http://www.dailyindia.com/show/55384.php/Quantum-cryptographic-data-network-created EVANSTON, Ill., Aug. 28 (UPI) -- U.S. scientists have

Re: [freenet-support] can freenet use this technology?

2006-08-29 Thread Evan Daniel
No. Quantum cryptography, key distribution, etc. all rely on the ability of communicators to exchange objects like qbits or entangled photons. Properly designed, this provides a guarantee (backed by the Uncertainty Principle) that the communication can't be intercepted. Needless to say, I can't

RE: Campaigning for Open-Net [WAS Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,

2006-08-29 Thread Anonymous via Panta Rhei
5 and 0, 7] On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:54:12 -0400, you wrote: If you pester anyone too much it can be self defeating. Perhaps unintentionally as they consume much time deleting your messages from their files. Or intentionally if they choose to block the excesses traffic. Tell you

Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread Anonymous via Panta Rhei
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:39:59 +0200, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please, Do NOT suggest switching to Linux, I've tried it and my hardware will not support it's demands. Again, this is a matter of money that unlike SOME people, I don't have a hell I suggest linux. There

Re: [freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Freenet 0.7 build 953

2006-08-29 Thread Anonymous via Panta Rhei
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 07:25:16 -0400, you wrote: On Wednesday 23 August 2006 15:19, Matthew Toseland wrote: - Don't start the updater if the wrapper is broken I have problems with this one. I do not run the wrapper - I do want freenet to download new stable versions and then quit. I have

Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread Evan Daniel
On 30 Aug 2006 04:50:23 -, Anonymous via Panta Rhei Perhaps I was not sufficiently clear. Linux is not an acceptable answer. Machine limitations are a major part of that, but other considerations that I am not at liberty to discuss are also a factor. Changing OS is not an option no matter

Re: [freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Freenet 0.7 build 953

2006-08-29 Thread Nicholas Sturm
There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt I'm quite familiar with the other folks mentioned. As a genealogist, this Ed Howdershelt interests me very much. Could you point me to more information regarding him? One of

[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread Nomen Nescio
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Ian Clarke wrote: >On 24 Aug 2006, at 12:01, urza9814 at gmail.com wrote: >> Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens >> to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main >> network. There might be now, but the idea of the way

[freenet-support] Freenet 0.7

2006-08-29 Thread Anonymous Sender
Freenet 0.7 is nothing more than yet another in a series of Freenet failures-in-waiting until it proves itself, IMHO, by emerging out of alpha with open-net.

[freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 *PLONK*

2006-08-29 Thread freenetw...@web.de
Don't feed the troll >Freenet 0.7 is nothing more than yet another in a series of Freenet >failures-in-waiting until it proves itself, IMHO, by emerging out of alpha >with open-net. > > >___ >Support mailing list >Support at freenetproject.org

[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread Fake Name
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Ian Clarke wrote: >On 24 Aug 2006, at 12:01, urza9814 at gmail.com wrote: >> Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens >> to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main >> network. There might be now, but the idea of the way

[freenet-support] open net

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[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread Ortwin Regel
.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20060829/b34d6ee7/attachment.html>

[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread Matthew Toseland
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Campaigning for Open-Net [WAS Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7]

2006-08-29 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread Matthew Toseland
/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20060829/1726e9e5/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread inverse
nobody at geonosis.homelinux.net wrote: > Please, Do NOT suggest switching to Linux, I've tried it and my hardware will > not support it's demands. Again, this is a matter of money that unlike SOME > people, I don't have a hell > I suggest linux. There are many versions of it, some of them

[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread Matthew Toseland
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Campaigning for Open-Net [WAS Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7]

2006-08-29 Thread Nicholas Sturm
If you pester anyone too much it can be self defeating. Perhaps unintentionally as they consume much time deleting your messages from their files. Or intentionally if they choose to block the excesses traffic. > > "We should all start pestering the hell outta both Ian and Toad to get open-net