Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-30 Thread Matthew Toseland
Have a look around on the wiki. It's quite possible to run freenet 0.7 from just the jars. You need to get freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar and freenet-ext.jar, and a JVM, and run java -cp freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar;freenet-ext.jar freenet.node.Node ... On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 04:50:23AM -, Anonymous

Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7

2006-08-30 Thread Crash
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:01:06 +0100, you wrote: Freenet 0.5 had opennet, and yet it was a failure. Ok, I gotta know this. How is 0.5 considered a failure. I use it daily and it works flawlessly, Frost messages flow as well as ever, as do downloads of splitfiles. Yesterday I retrieved a

Re: [freenet-support] can freenet use this technology?

2006-08-30 Thread Matthew Toseland
Beyond that, we'd need something like public/private key crypto. You could use quantum crypto for data links, but not for SSKs etc. On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 12:01:17AM -0400, Evan Daniel wrote: No. Quantum cryptography, key distribution, etc. all rely on the ability of communicators to

Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7

2006-08-30 Thread Ortwin Regel
It wasn't safe enough, though, I suppose.On 30 Aug 2006 03:27:04 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:01:06 +0100, you wrote: Freenet 0.5 had opennet, and yet it was a failure.Ok, I gotta know this.How is 0.5 considered a failure. I use it daily andit works

Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7

2006-08-30 Thread Matthew Toseland
Well on the most trivial level, 0.5 doesn't work in china. On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 08:51:32PM +0200, Ortwin Regel wrote: It wasn't safe enough, though, I suppose. On 30 Aug 2006 03:27:04 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:01:06 +0100, you wrote:

Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7

2006-08-30 Thread inverse
Matthew Toseland wrote: Well on the most trivial level, 0.5 doesn't work in china. yo, beyond harvesting the connected IP addresses to raid their owner's homes, one big concern with encrypted protocols is that they can be filtered out by application-level scanning firewalls. I think this

Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7

2006-08-30 Thread David 'Bombe' Roden
On Wednesday 30 August 2006 22:35, inverse wrote: beyond harvesting the connected IP addresses to raid their owner's homes, one big concern with encrypted protocols is that they can be filtered out by application-level scanning firewalls. I think this is exactly what's happening in China.

Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7

2006-08-30 Thread urza9814
Have you thought about that ignoring reset packets thing that was shown to make it possible to bypass The Great Firewall? I mean, I don't know too much about it, or if it'd be possible for freenetbut it might be worth looking in to. Also just wanna add that I fully support the desire to help

Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7

2006-08-30 Thread David 'Bombe' Roden
On Wednesday 30 August 2006 23:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you thought about that ignoring reset packets thing that was shown to make it possible to bypass The Great Firewall? I mean, I don't know too much about it, or if it'd be possible for freenetbut it might be worth looking in

Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7

2006-08-30 Thread inverse
David 'Bombe' Roden wrote: Communication between 0.7 nodes doesn't have to exchange public keys, those are already known as they are contained in the node reference. nice! I definitely need to install 0.7 and capture some packets for testing ___

Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7

2006-08-30 Thread inverse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you thought about that ignoring reset packets thing that was shown to make it possible to bypass The Great Firewall? I mean, I don't know too much about it, or if it'd be possible for freenetbut it might be worth looking in to. it's possible to do it, but

Re: [freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Freenet 0.7 build 953

2006-08-30 Thread Nicholas Sturm
Thank you. I must search for Ed. Nick [Original Message] From: Anonymous via Panta Rhei [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nicholas Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 8/31/2006 3:40:52 AM Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Freenet 0.7 build 953 On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 01:42:42 -0400, you wrote:

[freenet-support] can freenet use this technology?

2006-08-30 Thread remai...@invalid.com
-BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- Message-type: plaintext this tech, or an algo based on it? Quantum cryptographic data network created http://www.dailyindia.com/show/55384.php/Quantum-cryptographic-data-network-created EVANSTON, Ill., Aug. 28 (UPI) -- U.S. scientists have

[freenet-support] can freenet use this technology?

2006-08-30 Thread Evan Daniel
No. Quantum cryptography, key distribution, etc. all rely on the ability of communicators to exchange objects like qbits or entangled photons. Properly designed, this provides a guarantee (backed by the Uncertainty Principle) that the communication can't be intercepted. Needless to say, I can't

Campaigning for Open-Net [WAS Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,

2006-08-30 Thread Anonymous via Panta Rhei
5 and 0, 7] On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:54:12 -0400, you wrote: > > If you pester anyone too much it can be self defeating. Perhaps > unintentionally as they consume much time deleting your messages from their > files. Or intentionally if they choose to block the excesses traffic. Tell you

[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-30 Thread Anonymous via Panta Rhei
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:39:59 +0200, you wrote: > > nobody at geonosis.homelinux.net wrote: > > > Please, Do NOT suggest switching to Linux, I've tried it and my hardware > > will not > > support it's demands. Again, this is a matter of money that unlike SOME > > people, I > > don't have a hell

[freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Freenet 0.7 build 953

2006-08-30 Thread Anonymous via Panta Rhei
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 07:25:16 -0400, you wrote: > > On Wednesday 23 August 2006 15:19, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > - Don't start the updater if the wrapper is broken > > I have problems with this one. I do not run the wrapper - I do want freenet > to > download new stable versions and then

[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-30 Thread Evan Daniel
On 30 Aug 2006 04:50:23 -, Anonymous via Panta Rhei > Perhaps I was not sufficiently clear. Linux is not an acceptable answer. > Machine limitations are a major part of that, but other considerations > that I am not at liberty to discuss are also a factor. > > Changing OS is not an option no

[freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Freenet 0.7 build 953

2006-08-30 Thread Nicholas Sturm
> "There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, > ammo. Use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt I'm quite familiar with the other folks mentioned. As a genealogist, this Ed Howdershelt interests me very much. Could you point me to more information regarding him? One

[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-30 Thread Matthew Toseland
impossible. Our Boss says so. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20060830/5edc1ce0/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7

2006-08-30 Thread cr...@remailer-debian.panta-rhei.eu.org
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:01:06 +0100, you wrote: > > Freenet 0.5 had opennet, and yet it was a failure. > Ok, I gotta know this. How is 0.5 considered a failure. I use it daily and it works flawlessly, Frost messages flow as well as ever, as do downloads of splitfiles. Yesterday I retrieved a

[freenet-support] can freenet use this technology?

2006-08-30 Thread Matthew Toseland
ubscribe at > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > -- Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20060830/152e9a30/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7

2006-08-30 Thread Ortwin Regel
info/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20060830/bbfa2328/attachment.html>

[freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7

2006-08-30 Thread Matthew Toseland
oject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20060830/38aaaf09/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7

2006-08-30 Thread inverse
Matthew Toseland wrote: > Well on the most trivial level, 0.5 doesn't work in china. > yo, beyond harvesting the connected IP addresses to raid their owner's homes, one big concern with encrypted protocols is that they can be filtered out by application-level scanning firewalls. I think this

[freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7

2006-08-30 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
Have you thought about that ignoring reset packets thing that was shown to make it possible to bypass The Great Firewall? I mean, I don't know too much about it, or if it'd be possible for freenetbut it might be worth looking in to. Also just wanna add that I fully support the desire to help