Re: [freenet-support] Anyone using Java 5 or macs with 10.4, 32-bit 10.5?

2010-10-28 Thread Steve Oliver
Anyone using OS X 10.6 has a Java6 available, so those are no problem.

Anyone using a 32-bit intel mac will have to upgrade to snow leopard and they 
will get java6. It's $29, most mac users have already upgraded but Freenet is 
not a good representation of mac users so who knows how many are still on 10.5 
or even 10.4.

Anyone using a PPC mac will never get a java6, apple has not released one and 
Oracle probably wont either.


On Oct 28, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote:

 We are considering moving to Java 6. This would make our code slightly 
 cleaner, allow us to use a few minor new features, and simplify the build 
 process. We need to know whether this is a big problem. As I understand it 
 the following groups are likely to have Java 5 not 6:
 - PPC-based mac's.
 - OS/X 10.4 mac's.
 - OS/X 10.5 mac's on 32-bit x86.
 - People on Windows who haven't upgraded their Java to 6. I'm not sure 
 whether Sun does this automatically, I believe there is some sort of an 
 auto-updater.
 
 Anyone still running Java 1.5, whether or not you can easily upgrade (please 
 specify), please respond to this thread, publicly or privately. Thanks.
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Re: [freenet-support] Anyone using Java 5 or macs with 10.4, 32-bit 10.5?

2010-10-28 Thread Juiceman
Do we have any way to see what OS's are accessing the download page?
On Oct 28, 2010 10:51 AM, Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org
wrote:
 We are considering moving to Java 6. This would make our code slightly
cleaner, allow us to use a few minor new features, and simplify the build
process. We need to know whether this is a big problem. As I understand it
the following groups are likely to have Java 5 not 6:
 - PPC-based mac's.
 - OS/X 10.4 mac's.
 - OS/X 10.5 mac's on 32-bit x86.
 - People on Windows who haven't upgraded their Java to 6. I'm not sure
whether Sun does this automatically, I believe there is some sort of an
auto-updater.

 Anyone still running Java 1.5, whether or not you can easily upgrade
(please specify), please respond to this thread, publicly or privately.
Thanks.
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Re: [freenet-support] Anyone using Java 5 or macs with 10.4, 32-bit 10.5?

2010-10-28 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thursday 28 October 2010 17:28:20 Juiceman wrote:
 Do we have any way to see what OS's are accessing the download page?

Yes, we have Google Analytics.

77.97% Windows
10.85% Linux
9.58% Mac
66.74% Intel 10.6
23.00% Intel 10.5
3.64% Intel 10.4
3.01% PPC 10.4
1.66% PPC 10.5
1.28% Intel (generic? earlier version?)
0.66% PPC (generic? earlier version?)
Not set 0.49%
iPhone 0.39%
Android 0.20%
iPad 0.20%
iPod 0.10%
Symbian 0.06%
FreeBSD 0.05%

Unfortunately it does not tell us what proportion of Intel are x86-32 vs 64. :(

Breakdown for Windows:
42.29% XP
40.95% 7
15.73% Vista
0.57% Server 2003
0.38% 2000
0.08% 98
0.01% CE
0.01% ME

Screen resolution is interesting too:
15.17% 1280x800
12.98% 1024x768
11.66% 1280x1024
10.47% 1650x1050
9.87% 1440x900
7.60% 1366x768
7.16% 1920x1080
5.50% 1920x1200
2.55% 1600x900
1.88% 1024x600

IMHO this suggests a lot of laptops...

Browsers:

52% Firefox
18% Chrome
17% IE
6% Safari
5% Opera
Others 1%

Languages:
en-us 47%
fr 12.8%
de 7.6%
en-gb 5.7%
ru 3.9%
ja 2.4%
en 2.4%
hu 2.2%
pl 2.08%
it 1.6%

Unfortunately I am unable to access the visitors over time graphs on any of my 
browsers. :|

 On Oct 28, 2010 10:51 AM, Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org
 wrote:
  We are considering moving to Java 6. This would make our code slightly
 cleaner, allow us to use a few minor new features, and simplify the build
 process. We need to know whether this is a big problem. As I understand it
 the following groups are likely to have Java 5 not 6:
  - PPC-based mac's.
  - OS/X 10.4 mac's.
  - OS/X 10.5 mac's on 32-bit x86.
  - People on Windows who haven't upgraded their Java to 6. I'm not sure
 whether Sun does this automatically, I believe there is some sort of an
 auto-updater.
 
  Anyone still running Java 1.5, whether or not you can easily upgrade
 (please specify), please respond to this thread, publicly or privately.
 Thanks.


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