Re: [freenet-support] Darknet Question .... and some other fundamental Qs

2008-08-05 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Monday 04 August 2008 02:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, the entire point of Freenet is that nobody can know where the data
 originated. So if you're asking if there's a way to only get data inserted
 by nodes you're friends with - no. That would defeat the purpose of Freenet.
 If you're asking if you can only get data that is stored on your friends'
 nodes, then yes, setting it to only one hop should work I believe (But then
 again, I'm not _too_ familiar with how Freenet works. Especially 0.7.) But
 if you're trying to limit access to a small number of peers, can't you just
 set it as darknet and only add those peers?

The easiest solution is to try to ensure that nobody adds anyone outside of 
your local group.
 
 On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Benjamin Hecht 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
   direct friends have in their store. Are yu trying to create an old
   fashion darknet where only a few people have access to it ?
  
 
  Yes, a darknet of peers located on the same LAN (for bandwidth
  reasons). Can Freenet be configured to allow only pushing/pulling from
  friends (and not from friends of friends). I understand that the
  current Freenet paradigm is setup in such a way that a node cannot
  tell if a friend was the origin of the data or if he is just caching
  it so I am curious if such a setup is possible.
 
  On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 4:51 AM, Julien Cornuwel
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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   Benjamin Hecht a écrit :
   When using Darknet, are requests forwarded by friends that are not
   friends of your node?
  
   For example, if you are friends (via Darknet) with (person A) and
   (person B). And (person B) is friends with (person C) via Darknet,
   will a request from (person A) to (B) be forwarded to (C) if that
   piece is unavailable at (B).
  
   Yes it is. This is the only way to have a global darknet.
  
   If it is, is it possible to disable this feature -- I guess in other
   words, would changing maximum hops to 1 (if possible) prevent
   searching Friends of Friends searching/downloading/pushing, etc.?
  
   Why would you want to do that ? You would only be able to see what your
   direct friends have in their store. Are yu trying to create an old
   fashion darknet where only a few people have access to it ?
  
  
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Re: [freenet-support] Darknet Question .... and some other fundamental Qs

2008-08-03 Thread Julien Cornuwel
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Benjamin Hecht a écrit :
 When using Darknet, are requests forwarded by friends that are not
 friends of your node?
 
 For example, if you are friends (via Darknet) with (person A) and
 (person B). And (person B) is friends with (person C) via Darknet,
 will a request from (person A) to (B) be forwarded to (C) if that
 piece is unavailable at (B).

Yes it is. This is the only way to have a global darknet.

 If it is, is it possible to disable this feature -- I guess in other
 words, would changing maximum hops to 1 (if possible) prevent
 searching Friends of Friends searching/downloading/pushing, etc.?

Why would you want to do that ? You would only be able to see what your
direct friends have in their store. Are yu trying to create an old
fashion darknet where only a few people have access to it ?


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Re: [freenet-support] Darknet Question .... and some other fundamental Qs

2008-08-03 Thread Benjamin Hecht
 direct friends have in their store. Are yu trying to create an old
 fashion darknet where only a few people have access to it ?


Yes, a darknet of peers located on the same LAN (for bandwidth
reasons). Can Freenet be configured to allow only pushing/pulling from
friends (and not from friends of friends). I understand that the
current Freenet paradigm is setup in such a way that a node cannot
tell if a friend was the origin of the data or if he is just caching
it so I am curious if such a setup is possible.

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 4:51 AM, Julien Cornuwel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Benjamin Hecht a écrit :
 When using Darknet, are requests forwarded by friends that are not
 friends of your node?

 For example, if you are friends (via Darknet) with (person A) and
 (person B). And (person B) is friends with (person C) via Darknet,
 will a request from (person A) to (B) be forwarded to (C) if that
 piece is unavailable at (B).

 Yes it is. This is the only way to have a global darknet.

 If it is, is it possible to disable this feature -- I guess in other
 words, would changing maximum hops to 1 (if possible) prevent
 searching Friends of Friends searching/downloading/pushing, etc.?

 Why would you want to do that ? You would only be able to see what your
 direct friends have in their store. Are yu trying to create an old
 fashion darknet where only a few people have access to it ?


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Re: [freenet-support] Darknet Question .... and some other fundamental Qs

2008-08-03 Thread urza9814
Well, the entire point of Freenet is that nobody can know where the data
originated. So if you're asking if there's a way to only get data inserted
by nodes you're friends with - no. That would defeat the purpose of Freenet.
If you're asking if you can only get data that is stored on your friends'
nodes, then yes, setting it to only one hop should work I believe (But then
again, I'm not _too_ familiar with how Freenet works. Especially 0.7.) But
if you're trying to limit access to a small number of peers, can't you just
set it as darknet and only add those peers?

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Benjamin Hecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  direct friends have in their store. Are yu trying to create an old
  fashion darknet where only a few people have access to it ?
 

 Yes, a darknet of peers located on the same LAN (for bandwidth
 reasons). Can Freenet be configured to allow only pushing/pulling from
 friends (and not from friends of friends). I understand that the
 current Freenet paradigm is setup in such a way that a node cannot
 tell if a friend was the origin of the data or if he is just caching
 it so I am curious if such a setup is possible.

 On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 4:51 AM, Julien Cornuwel
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  Benjamin Hecht a écrit :
  When using Darknet, are requests forwarded by friends that are not
  friends of your node?
 
  For example, if you are friends (via Darknet) with (person A) and
  (person B). And (person B) is friends with (person C) via Darknet,
  will a request from (person A) to (B) be forwarded to (C) if that
  piece is unavailable at (B).
 
  Yes it is. This is the only way to have a global darknet.
 
  If it is, is it possible to disable this feature -- I guess in other
  words, would changing maximum hops to 1 (if possible) prevent
  searching Friends of Friends searching/downloading/pushing, etc.?
 
  Why would you want to do that ? You would only be able to see what your
  direct friends have in their store. Are yu trying to create an old
  fashion darknet where only a few people have access to it ?
 
 
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