Re: [freenet-support] Freenet Status Update

2010-02-05 Thread alex
Matthew Toseland wrote:

Everything sounds great, and I really think that freetalk may make 0.8 a 
real hit.

Thanks for your hard work.

 BUILD 1240
 
 Our last stable build, 1239, was in November. We have just released a new
 one, 1240. This has many changes (opennet stuff, optimisations, all sorts
 of stuff), which I list in the mail about it. One of the most important is
 that there are several new seednodes, and many dead ones have been
 removed. I have tested it 3 times today and it's bootstrapped fast each
 time, although yesterday it bootstrapped very slowly one time.
 
 NETWORK STATUS AND NETWORK STATISTICS
 
 Evan Daniel has been doing some useful work analysing the network. Amongst
 other things, he has discovered that: - The Guardian article, in December,
 which was reprinted around the world, has more than doubled the size of
 our network, although there is a slight downward trend now. This may be
 due to seednodes issues and not having had a build since November. - We
 have around 4500-7000 nodes online at any given time. - Over 5 days, we
 have around 14000 non-transient nodes. - For nodes online at any one time,
 roughly 37% are 24x7 nodes (96% uptime average), 33% are regular users
 (56% average uptime), and 30% are occasional or newbie nodes (16% average
 uptime).
 
 EMU IS DEAD, LONG LIVE OSPREY
 
 We have finally gotten rid of emu! Our faithful and powerful dedicated
 server supplied at a discount by Bytemark is no more. We now have a
 virtual machine called Osprey, which does most of the same job, for a much
 lower cost, and has a much simplified setup so should be easier to
 maintain. We have tried to outsource services, for example we use Google
 Code for our downloads, but some things will have to stay under our direct
 control for some time to come e.g. mailing lists and the bug tracker.
 
 You may have some difficulty with the update scripts, if you use update.sh
 / update.cmd. If it doesn't work, try updating the script manually from
 https://checksums.freenetproject.org/latest/update.cmd (or update.sh)
 
 WOT, FREETALK, RELATED THINGS AND OTHER PLUGINS
 
 Xor (also known as p0s) continues to work on the Web of Trust and Freetalk
 plugins. These are approaching the point where we can make them loadable
 from the plugins page, and then bundle them, enabled by default.
 
 WoT is the backend system which implements a pseudonymous web of trust,
 which functions in a similar way to that in FMS. You can create
 identities, assign trust to other identities, announce your identity via
 CAPTCHAs and so on. This is the Community menu, from which you can see
 your identities and other people's, and the trust relationships between
 them. WoT is used by Freetalk, FlogHelper, and probably soon by
 distributed searching, real time chat and other things.
 
 Freetalk is a spam-resistant chat system based on WoT. This is similar to
 FMS, but it will eventually be bundled with Freenet, and will be a part of
 it by default. You will be able to embed a Freetalk board on your
 freesite. FlogHelper is a WoT-based plugin for writing a flog (freenet
 blog), which is very easy to use, but uses WoT to manage identities. I
 would have bundled FlogHelper months ago, but WoT isn't ready yet and
 FlogHelper needs it.
 
 WoT should be ready soon. Recently a major issue has been discovered with
 the trust calculation algorithm, after that is fixed and some minor
 issues, WoT will become a semi-official plugin, which will sadly require
 flushing the existing testing web of trust, so sadly all old messages
 and identities will go away. Freetalk needs more work, about 50% of the
 bugs marked for 0.1 on the roadmap are fixed at the moment.
 
 In build 1240, we pull in a new version of Library. This is a great
 improvement over the old version, it is faster, it supports embedding a
 search on a freesite, and has many bugs fixed. However searching for
 common terms can still cause out of memory crashes.
 
 There is another issue with Library: infinity0 spent last summer creating
 a scalable index format for Library, which should make it a lot easier to
 insert and maintain big indexes. We will soon change the spider to use
 this new format, and in the process we expect to greatly improve
 performance for writing indexes, so it doesn't take a week any more and is
 done incrementally. I realise this has been promised before, but it is
 important, so it will happen sooner or later, hopefully sooner.
 
 Full Web of Trust-based distributed searching, with a focus on
 filesharing, is on the distant horizon at the moment. infinity0 might be
 able to do some work on it as part of his studies, we'll see. It won't be
 in 0.8.0.
 
 PRIORITIES AND RELEASES
 
 We would like to get 0.8 out soon, or at least a beta of 0.8. Several
 major issues: - The windows installer needs to be fixed on 64-bit. This is
 being worked on. - Freetalk must be ready.
 - Auto-configuration of memory limits in the installers, and asking the
 user about 

Re: [freenet-support] Freenet Status Update

2010-02-05 Thread Ian Clarke
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Dennis Nezic denn...@dennisn.dyndns.orgwrote:

 On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 22:35:30 +, Matthew Toseland wrote:
  Ian's friend pupok is working on a new AJAXy user interface mockup
  for Freenet.

 Oh god no. Make sure it's easy to disable this garbage for people who
 still value control over their web pages (to read, parse, etc). Dillo
 doesn't (and hopefully won't) support javascript.


The new web UI (which is still a long-way off) will be in-addition to
FProxy, and is intended to only serve the needs of casual Freenet users.
 I expect that we'll keep FProxy running on its current port for those that
prefer it.

So anti-Javascript luddites like you will be free to remain in the dark ages
if you want to ;-P

Ian.

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Ian Clarke
CEO, SenseArray
Email: i...@sensearray.com
Ph: +1 512 422 3588
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet Status Update

2010-02-05 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Friday 05 February 2010 15:04:41 Ian Clarke wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Dennis Nezic 
 denn...@dennisn.dyndns.orgwrote:
 
  On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 22:35:30 +, Matthew Toseland wrote:
   Ian's friend pupok is working on a new AJAXy user interface mockup
   for Freenet.
 
  Oh god no. Make sure it's easy to disable this garbage for people who
  still value control over their web pages (to read, parse, etc). Dillo
  doesn't (and hopefully won't) support javascript.
 
 The new web UI (which is still a long-way off) will be in-addition to
 FProxy, and is intended to only serve the needs of casual Freenet users.
  I expect that we'll keep FProxy running on its current port for those that
 prefer it.

Hmmm, that was never the plan before... Of course fproxy itself will continue, 
with a no-javascript dumb proxy mode. But for configuration, adding friends, 
etc, surely we want a single interface?
 
 So anti-Javascript luddites like you will be free to remain in the dark ages
 if you want to ;-P


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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet Status Update

2010-02-04 Thread Dennis Nezic
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 22:35:30 +, Matthew Toseland wrote:
 Ian's friend pupok is working on a new AJAXy user interface mockup
 for Freenet.

Oh god no. Make sure it's easy to disable this garbage for people who
still value control over their web pages (to read, parse, etc). Dillo
doesn't (and hopefully won't) support javascript.


 Both of these may miss 0.8.

Phew.
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