Re: [freenet-support] Lots of questions about Frost and Thaw

2012-01-04 Thread artur

Hi,

you can download the latest version of Frost here:

http://jtcfrost.sourceforge.net/

Regards

artur



On 09.12.2011 19:13, Walter Barnes wrote:

On 12/8/2011 11:06 AM, Dennis Nezic wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:12:01 -0800, Walter Barnes wrote:

[...]
Do I even need Frost?

If you want a forum on freenet, then sure, it is one of at least three
different forum systems. It's a standalone Java program (that operates
over your freenet node in the background.) FMS is a similar, newer and
better standalone program, written in C. Freetalk is an even newer
system, written as a Java plugin to your node, and installed/accessed
via your node's control panels (normally) -- although I hear it (still)
has performance issues.


Thanks Denis but I'm just looking for ways to access Frost message
boards. I have found a freesite for frost that appears to have a version
of Frost that's newer than the one on freenetproject.org. I'll try that
one out but I'm still curious if there is a plugin for Thaw that will
access Frost message boards.

Even if there isn't such a plugin, I think I still need Thaw for file
sharing and I have no idea where to get a recent version. As I mentioned
in my previous message, the one available for download at
freenetproject.org is at least 3 years out of date. Is there a freesite
for Thaw with a more recent version or where else do I go?

Thanks,
Walter
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Re: [freenet-support] Lots of questions about Frost and Thaw

2012-01-04 Thread Jep

Volodya:

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On 12/09/2011 10:13 PM, Walter Barnes wrote:

On 12/8/2011 11:06 AM, Dennis Nezic wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:12:01 -0800, Walter Barnes wrote:

[...]
Do I even need Frost?

If you want a forum on freenet, then sure, it is one of at least three
different forum systems. It's a standalone Java program (that operates
over your freenet node in the background.) FMS is a similar, newer and
better standalone program, written in C. Freetalk is an even newer
system, written as a Java plugin to your node, and installed/accessed
via your node's control panels (normally) -- although I hear it (still)
has performance issues.

Thanks Denis but I'm just looking for ways to access Frost message boards. I
have found a freesite for frost that appears to have a version of Frost that's
newer than the one on freenetproject.org. I'll try that one out but I'm still
curious if there is a plugin for Thaw that will access Frost message boards.

Even if there isn't such a plugin, I think I still need Thaw for file sharing
and I have no idea where to get a recent version. As I mentioned in my previous
message, the one available for download at freenetproject.org is at least 3
years out of date. Is there a freesite for Thaw with a more recent version or
where else do I go?

Thanks,
Walter


Thaw's Frost Messanging System plugin was never finished, and i think today it's
abandonware. Three-year-old version sounds about right.

  - Volodya


Yup, best ditch Thaw.

If only for being abandonware, it should be deprecated clearly at 
freenetproject.org and the 'official' freesites in my opinion.


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Re: [freenet-support] Lots of questions about Frost and Thaw

2012-01-04 Thread artur

Hi,

you can download the latest version of Frost here:

http://jtcfrost.sourceforge.net/

Regards

artur



On 09.12.2011 19:13, Walter Barnes wrote:

On 12/8/2011 11:06 AM, Dennis Nezic wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:12:01 -0800, Walter Barnes wrote:

[...]
Do I even need Frost?

If you want a forum on freenet, then sure, it is one of at least three
different forum systems. It's a standalone Java program (that operates
over your freenet node in the background.) FMS is a similar, newer and
better standalone program, written in C. Freetalk is an even newer
system, written as a Java plugin to your node, and installed/accessed
via your node's control panels (normally) -- although I hear it (still)
has performance issues.


Thanks Denis but I'm just looking for ways to access Frost message
boards. I have found a freesite for frost that appears to have a version
of Frost that's newer than the one on freenetproject.org. I'll try that
one out but I'm still curious if there is a plugin for Thaw that will
access Frost message boards.

Even if there isn't such a plugin, I think I still need Thaw for file
sharing and I have no idea where to get a recent version. As I mentioned
in my previous message, the one available for download at
freenetproject.org is at least 3 years out of date. Is there a freesite
for Thaw with a more recent version or where else do I go?

Thanks,
Walter
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Re: [freenet-support] Lots of questions about Frost and Thaw

2011-12-09 Thread Walter Barnes

On 12/8/2011 11:06 AM, Dennis Nezic wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:12:01 -0800, Walter Barnes wrote:

[...]
Do I even need Frost?

If you want a forum on freenet, then sure, it is one of at least three
different forum systems. It's a standalone Java program (that operates
over your freenet node in the background.) FMS is a similar, newer and
better standalone program, written in C. Freetalk is an even newer
system, written as a Java plugin to your node, and installed/accessed
via your node's control panels (normally) -- although I hear it (still)
has performance issues.


Thanks Denis but I'm just looking for ways to access Frost message 
boards. I have found a freesite for frost that appears to have a version 
of Frost that's newer than the one on freenetproject.org. I'll try that 
one out but I'm still curious if there is a plugin for Thaw that will 
access Frost message boards.


Even if there isn't such a plugin, I think I still need Thaw for file 
sharing and I have no idea where to get a recent version. As I mentioned 
in my previous message, the one available for download at 
freenetproject.org is at least 3 years out of date. Is there a freesite 
for Thaw with a more recent version or where else do I go?


Thanks,
Walter
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Re: [freenet-support] Lots of questions about Frost and Thaw

2011-12-09 Thread Dennis Nezic
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 10:13:39 -0800, Walter Barnes wrote:
 On 12/8/2011 11:06 AM, Dennis Nezic wrote:
  On Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:12:01 -0800, Walter Barnes wrote:
  [...]
  Do I even need Frost?
  If you want a forum on freenet, then sure, it is one of at least
  three different forum systems. It's a standalone Java program (that
  operates over your freenet node in the background.) FMS is a
  similar, newer and better standalone program, written in C.
  Freetalk is an even newer system, written as a Java plugin to your
  node, and installed/accessed via your node's control panels
  (normally) -- although I hear it (still) has performance issues.
 
 Thanks Denis but I'm just looking for ways to access Frost message 
 boards.

That's fair enough. Although, you should be aware that the other two
newer systems were built specifically because Frost can be trivially
DOS-ed and rendered unusable. (They use webs of trust, instead of
allowing anybody/anything to post.)
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Re: [freenet-support] Lots of questions about Frost and Thaw

2011-12-08 Thread Dennis Nezic
On Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:12:01 -0800, Walter Barnes wrote:
 [...]
 Do I even need Frost?

If you want a forum on freenet, then sure, it is one of at least three
different forum systems. It's a standalone Java program (that operates
over your freenet node in the background.) FMS is a similar, newer and
better standalone program, written in C. Freetalk is an even newer
system, written as a Java plugin to your node, and installed/accessed
via your node's control panels (normally) -- although I hear it (still)
has performance issues.

Naturally, none of these systems talk to each other. We can hack up
sophisticated mathematical elliptical curve ciphers and complex routing
algorithms for ad-hoc network topologies, but creating compatible
protocols is simply beyond us.
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