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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Yeah, If I were going to file it a ticket, it would be this: 'Make
| Openmoko work all the time, in all these scenarios'. I'm sure my ticket
Well, every day I have to figure out what to spend time on, if
My experience, as I'm sure with many other people, with my freerunner
has been frustrating most of the time. To say, its all on the user is
wrong. Granted the community could be better, however, its hard to
contribute when everything is so fragmented.
For instance, about the echo problem, one
NINJA-PIRATES!
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Karthik Kumar karthikku...@gmail.com wrote:
I clearly don't blame the developers here myself. I blame Openmoko's
selfish management (probably it's board of directors or C*Os) for
this. I am sure that a developer who talks back against this will
I agree with this whole thread of Openmoko's fatal mistake of moving on
to GTA03 with GTA02 still being unstable and unusable as a primary
phone. If GTA02 gets left behind in the dust without ever working
properly, it doesn't say much for their company. If Openmoko feels the
hardware of GTA02
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| I clearly don't blame the developers here myself. I blame Openmoko's
| selfish management (probably it's board of directors or C*Os) for
| this. I am sure that a developer who talks back against this will
Ah! legal recourse is certainly not the right path!
I have long stayed out of this discussion as it's mostly been trolling
about OpenMoko, but to be honest making a phone is hard...
I've personally worked on projects involving building consumer
electronics devices. We had far less success
The website of Openmoko's launch will tell you when the Openmoko
Freerunner was released.
My bills will tell you when I have purchased the Freerunner.
My Freerunner is available to prove the bugs in it.
As for the list of Bugs, I'll just take the list from the Trac you
have set up, with details of
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| The website of Openmoko's launch will tell you when the Openmoko
| Freerunner was released.
| My bills will tell you when I have purchased the Freerunner.
| My Freerunner is available to prove the bugs in
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 1:01 AM, Andy Green a...@openmoko.com wrote:
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| The website of Openmoko's launch will tell you when the Openmoko
| Freerunner was released.
| My bills will tell you when I have
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 1:15 AM, john jptmo...@gmail.com wrote:
2008/12/12 Karthik Kumar karthikku...@gmail.com:
I will say this: Open source is philanthrophy. Making money is
alright. Using Open source to make money is acceptable.
You see those EeePcs? It's Open source, people get what they
A quick thought...if Openmoko feels the hardware of GTA02 is inadequate to
even bother making it a stable phone, should there not be some sort of
recall and free replacement with a GTA03.
$399 for a phone that never worked properly is pretty hard to swallow, and
even harder to swallow when the
A quick thought...if Openmoko feels the hardware of GTA02 is inadequate
to
even bother making it a stable phone, should there not be some sort of
what is so hard in actually reading answers instead of repeating the same
wrong statement over an dover?
it has been stated several times
Paul,
Let's be honest here FIC is making a pretty penny off of OpenMoko,
using very old hardware selling at a premium price (2.5g not even
EDGE). Yet we are OK with that.
If you don't know you shouldn't pretend to know.
I applaud the brave investors we have, we have a long way to go to
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 1:31 AM, Marcus Stong sto...@gmail.com wrote:
A quick thought...if Openmoko feels the hardware of GTA02 is inadequate to
even bother making it a stable phone, should there not be some sort of
recall and free replacement with a GTA03.
$399 for a phone that never worked
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| A quick thought...if Openmoko feels the hardware of GTA02 is inadequate
| to even bother making it a stable phone, should there not be some sort
| of recall and free replacement with a GTA03.
Yes. That
Karthik,
this. I am sure that a developer who talks back against this will just
get fired/have to face bad consequences.
Honestly, together with pretty much everything else you say, it's wrong.
In fact internally I am known as the one who kicks people if they
don't post publicly :-)
Your
Wolfgang Spraul wrote:
Actually I am thinking about trying to buy some gta01 back
from the community. They are quite legendary and we have too few
internally. 2 in Taipei, for example. We wish we could do more
testing bug-fixing on gta01. It's the same platform anyway, and in
Sargun,
thanks, agree with you.
I want someone from FR (steve mosher? sean moss?) to post updates and
a timeline. I want them to say when things will be fixed, what exact
developments are going on at OM, etc... This has to be on a regular
basis. They -need- a blog or a similar method to
Here is a suggestion:
If the GPS hardwarer in GTA02 is wrong, would Openmoko consider fixing
it for all those who purchased Openmoko? They should ship back the
Freerunner, fix it and send it back to all owners.
And, (P.S. arne akka) here is a PDF which tells us about some
different better GPS
I wrote earlier about being unable to register GSM. It happened out of
the blue and I still can't register.
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:33:49 +
From: Andy Green a...@openmoko.com
Subject: Re: GSM no longer registers on GTA02 - how to troubleshoot?
Your U-Boot environment can have some
Stupid question,
Have you flashed moko10 gsm firmware?
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Daniel Dadap dan...@digsoc.com wrote:
I wrote earlier about being unable to register GSM. It happened out of
the blue and I still can't register.
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:33:49 +
From: Andy Green
I don't think a user can flash GSM firmware, only OM, due to NDA on the
Calypso.
The GSM firmware is whatever came on the GTA02v5 when I got it. I believe it
is moko10 but can't confirm now because I don't have it with me.
As I said in the original post, it was working fine (well, as fine as a
1. flash moko10 as recommended below - fixes problems with some
incompatible SIMs. On my Vodafone 128K, made a huge difference to the
PIN dialog popping up - not 100% fixed, but made a difference between 1
in 10, to 1 in 2.
2. try logging in and run logread - if you see ATCHAT: ATF modem
ready
Users can flash the calypso, check the wiki for the procedure and
software/firmware required.
BillK
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 15:47 -0800, danek wrote:
I don't think a user can flash GSM firmware, only OM, due to NDA on the
Calypso.
The GSM firmware is whatever came on the GTA02v5 when I got
I don't think a user can flash GSM firmware, only OM, due to NDA on the
Calypso.
yes, you can.
om perepared an image you put on sd and boot from, then the firmware will
be upgraded.
search the archives and the wiki for links and howto.
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did you check if all contacts of the sim are connected? (yes, it used to
work before, i know)
I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. Connected to what?
to the contacts of the fr sim slot.
if i remember right, the fr's contacts are just some kind of springs which
might very well loose
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 4:13 AM, Bobby Martin bobbymart...@gmail.com wrote:
As much as I hate to chime in on such a busy and unproductive thread...
When the GTA02 was sold, it was *for developers only*. It was very clear on
the site. The software is not done. It is not stable. (That said,
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